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Submitted by windrider07 259d ago | news

Microsoft VP: 'play the games, not the resolution'

One of the big controversies leading up to Xbox One's launch is what's (unfortunately) being called "resolutiongate." Major multiplatform games are running at a lower resolution on Xbox One than PS4, which calls into question the console's capabilities. Microsoft Studios VP Phil Spencer has defended Xbox One, saying gamers shouldn't focus on the numbers, but the experience. (Phil Spencer, Xbox One)

Credit url: gameskinny.com
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sigfredod  +   259d ago | Well said
seems that sales projections are lower than expected for MS
xHeavYx  +   259d ago | Well said
People can refer to the past all they want to downplay specs, but this is 2014, specs are more important than what certain people want to admit.
Spencer is just saying "don't disregard our weaker console"
It was all about the graphical power and how good games look when COD looked better on the 360, now that the tables have turned, all of the sudden specs don't matter anymore.
By the way, better specs not only give you prettier graphics, but you can do better physics, more AI and such
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raptar   259d ago | Spam
mewhy32  +   259d ago | Well said
Of course Phil wants people to not think about specs...i mean microsoft is charging 100.00 more for a greatly inferior piece of hardware. If everyone thought about it hard enough they couldn't give the xbone away.
Eonjay  +   259d ago
If resolution doesn't matter... we would have this article:

http://n4g.com/news/1389173...
mikeslemonade  +   259d ago
^ Raptar

It did matter that's why the 360 sold more copies. And take a look at the pre-orders right now. PS4 is higher. The negative PR is just going to snowball against the X1. Right now you may say it isn't a big deal but eventually you will see.
kneon  +   259d ago
@raptar

But with PS3 and 360 the differences between the multi-plat games were quite small, this gen the difference is quite large.

Pushing twice as many pixels at the same or better frame rate is pretty significant.
Killjoy3000  +   259d ago
Raptar, you're dumb. That's when PS3 was near impossible to develop for. Now, PS4 is easier to develop for than the X1, and more powerful at that. You fail hard.
mikeslemonade  +   259d ago
And one more thing.. If you go back in look the specs for COD on 360 and PS3 were closer. I think the two systems were running the game native at 640p. The difference were mainly in the textures and the 360 had a slight advantage in the frames per second.

Now PS4 1080p vs X1's 720p that is a even bigger gap.
felidae  +   259d ago
PS4 has a large block of GDDR5 which is great for displaying a high resolution image, doesn't mean that image is going to look great, and on top of this the CPU is equally important particularly for streaming the textures to the GPU via the RAM, and if the RAM is not best suited to the CPU then it will miss cycles, which you guessed it, shows up as dropped frames per second. There is a reason why PC's are mostly DDR3 and GDDR5 on the GPU, you need both really for balance. MS got it right and given the time with the new kit they'll get that resolution up just like Turn 10 have, and 343 will get Halo 5 at 1080p native 60FPS as well.
UltimateMaster  +   259d ago
Microsoft VP: 'play the games, not the resolution'
Yeah! Shut up and enjoy your crap! /s
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Eonjay  +   259d ago | Well said
If you get a PS4, you can play both.
GTgamer  +   259d ago | Well said
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tell me why we are buying these Next gen consoles why not stick to current gen since resolution doesn't matter :/
OrangePowerz  +   259d ago
@idontcare

I don't think that MS got it right. The ESRAM with 32mb is too small to make for the disadvantage of the DDR3.

MS went with DDR3 for the multi media stuff and the 3 OS.
Sevir  +   259d ago
As he said, I'll "play the games..." on PS4!

Simple as that! You can con your fanbase and consumers into buying a more expensive console that performs remarkably less than the competition.
Ezz2013  +   259d ago
""""Micros oft VP: 'play the games, not the resolution""

really ?!
was he able to say that with straight face ?!

ok i will play both on ps4 along with my gaming pc
thank you sir...thank you very much for your good advice
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ZeroX9876  +   259d ago
for me, I'm getting more performance for my money on the PS4 than the Xbox 1. Last gen lasted quite a while(lifetime) and I want this one to be the same.

If Halo, Dead Rising or Forza are series that you absolutely wants to play, well you should obviously buy a X1 over the PS4.

This is the first time I'm buying sony's console first. the last 2 generations, I started with the Xbox brand and switched halfway through to playstation both times (xbox->PS2, 360->PS3)...
And I'm glad I did the switch each time!
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Brutallyhonest  +   259d ago
Hey Phil
Build a gaming console, not a TV companion.

Sorry pal but Sony gets it. You guys don't.
So by purchasing a PS4 I will have the best of both.
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kickerz  +   259d ago
Go outside and kick a ball or something. Goshh some of you guys need a life. It's a $500 gaming machine to have fun on. Your obviously not gonna buy an xb1. So what's the point of all this negative BS
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UltimateMaster  +   259d ago
Microsoft VP: 'play the games, not the resolution'
Buy a Wii U.
Gekko36  +   259d ago
@BigBoned... sorry xHeavYx :D

I think @Raptar's got you there.

First rule of debate.. keep your arms still when they're under the table.

I think yours were jiggling like mad and then stopped suddenly.

Thing is, while your arms were jiggling Raptar owned your arse!
badz149  +   259d ago
FINALLY! they conceded defeat! let's just hope there will be no more hiding behind lies after this!
rulparra  +   259d ago
@ idontcare!

WOW! HOW STUPID YOU ARE!. DID YOU READ WHAT YOU POST. XBONEFORMIST. PAY 500 A 360 UPGRADE JUST PERFECT
badkolo  +   259d ago
first off not one game has been reviewed so no the multiplat games dont look better on the ps4, thats just guessing and specuakltion, so far we see ryse kicking arse on the x1 which is better then anything on the ps4 at launch, so lets wait for the reviews to kick in, granted there might be a game or 2 that might fair better resolution wise but lets wait for the actual games and not your wishes, when they are reviewed then you can come here and moan. until then there has been only talk of lesser resolution like in bs4 case which many argue looks better on x1 ./ so lets wait and see , many of you are just hoping but ryse tells me x1 is a beast. lets not base this off of call of duty either since everyone is in agreement they suck for both systems since everyone here hates cod, wait n see
UltimateMaster  +   259d ago
I'd buy the best posible hardware.
If that means it's also cheaper, the more the better.
I mean, there's still some kind of positive for the Xbox One, you can use MP3 and DNLA. But if you already own a PS3 or Xbox 360, I don't know why you wouldn't use those instead. So I don't see this as a deal breaker.

Still, it's a stupid move from Sony to remove existing features.
LonChaneyTV  +   259d ago
@ xHeavYx "People can refer to the past all they want to downplay specs, but this is 2014, specs are more important than what certain people want to admit. "

you would actually get a PC if specs were more important to you. In 2 years time after consoles hit, you could get 3 R9 290s and be 16x ahead of the consoles for dirt cheap.

xHeavYx "yeah but specs don't matter when comparing them to PCs, they're also more expensive!!!"

Consoles themselves are made up of PC parts, mid ranged parts...who better to compare them to than their originators?

And Consoles are more expensive, 10 brand new games is $600 + tax. (not including online services.) you will also be charged top cash even when game's graphics become dated.

Also not having backwards compatibility means you have to buy new games to support that console, every time.

I wonder how much overcompensating PlayStation gamers will be in 2019? In the generation after when competition increases 10 fold.

I've lived through it all to see enough of this never ending battle. I'm a senior now.
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Sideras  +   259d ago
Either way it's a new generation, prettier graphics are fairly important. Makes it all feel fresh and new and shiny.

Yes very important. And I don't trust that fucking guy, his forehead is too big and his hairdo is to douchey.
ThanatosDMC  +   259d ago
MS is gonna mandate parity for their crappy consoles...
llamaman13  +   259d ago
actually physics, AI, and 'such' are CPU tasks mostly. And considering the ps4 and xbone cpu's are generally the same, the differences between the two's CPU tasks are non-existent, please be informed next time.
Visiblemarc  +   259d ago
Yes... But it also heavily affects future playability. Games get more taxing as the years wear on, xb1 has very little wiggle room.
SniperControl  +   259d ago
@badkolo

"first off not one game has been reviewed so no the multiplat games dont look better on the ps4, thats just guessing and specuakltion"

Huh? So i guess you must have missed all the hoorah regarding the numerous graphic comparison articles done between PS4 and X1 on COD:Ghosts & Battlefield 4.
All of them stating the PS4 version to be superior to the X1.
frostypants  +   258d ago
@idontcare, did you just try to claim that DDR3 is a better option than GDDR5? NO....just NO..."Zip it, ex zip it a, zippy longstockings, zip it, zip it good, subtitle: zip it, zuckle on my zipple, zip it, Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, exZIPIT A..."
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Ritsujun  +   258d ago
Xbone180'd.
Pathetic Microsofie is frigging pathetic.
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GribbleGrunger  +   259d ago
Watch the TV, not the resolution. Eat your food, not the nutritional value.
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die_fiend  +   259d ago
Quality
SilentNegotiator  +   259d ago
Paint with a brush, not paint.
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mistertwoturbo  +   259d ago
lol
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BOLO  +   259d ago
lol You made my day.
BlueShirt7749  +   259d ago
Yea too bad Spencer is right. All of a sudden the resolution matters to Sony fanboys. Real gamers won't care and play the games for the games knowing they'll look great regardless of console.

WAKE UP! (and in some cases GROW UP)
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scott182  +   259d ago
"knowing they'll look great regardless of console."

If Spencer is right, then what does it matter how they look? Resolution contributes to the appearance...
Studio-YaMi  +   259d ago
If you haven't seen the difference from 1080p to 720p,then you need to check your eyes out QUICK!

"Looking great" means the resolution is a MUST HAVE!

Are you people serious??

No wonder Spencer said that,he knows that his sheep are gonna eat it up with a smile on their faces.

Jeez!
mistertwoturbo  +   259d ago
And all of a sudden it doesn't matter to you hardcore Microsoft fans.

It mattered in the past 7 years how much better multiplatform titles on the 360 looked and ran better than the PS3.

Now it doesn't matter anymore.

Although I'm considering to buy an XB1, I really really hate that Microsoft community. It's full of backwards people like you.
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slapedurmomsace  +   259d ago
Wow, real gamers won't care about the appearance of a game. Well....than please explain why visuals are apart of reviews. Why PC fans love the latest and greatest. Why Battlefield 4 on ultra is blowing people away. Why do some in the gaming community wanna label the Wii U as last gen. Why did Xbox owners chastise the PS3 when multi-plates looked better last gen?

You wanna buy an Xbox One because of their exclusives, that's 100% fine and understandable. Eventually I will too, but why pay more for a console that's not delivering the same experience that can be had for LESS on a different system if you are buying most multi-plates.

Also as FYI..real gamers...they don't need to justify their purchases to people they don't know to make themselves feel better about their choice.
irokster  +   259d ago
And what in the hell makes you a "real gamer" and not the rest of us? Explain.
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frostypants  +   258d ago
If resolution doesn't matter, then why did they develop a new console to replace the 360? Seriously...anyone who claims hardware power isn't important is in denial. And that's what we're REALLY talking about...it's not just resolution that is impacted here. It's everything the console does.
andrewsqual  +   259d ago
Would have been a great slogan at E3 2013.
dmitrijs88  +   259d ago
MS is loosing it
solar  +   259d ago
The Wii sold better than 360 and PS3. It isn't all about power.
MightyNoX  +   259d ago
The Wii was also cheaper and doesn't tout 'Full HD 1080p graphics' on it's website. How is that selective memory working for ya.

Derpity derpity derppy doo.
SilentNegotiator  +   259d ago
Wii also had a gimmick that got millions upon millions of non-traditional gamers to play it. None of the 8th gen systems have that appeal (Go ahead and say Kinect - didn't save the 360 from falling into 3rd place and they put 1/2 billion into marketing for it) and Wii U is proving that simply being cheapest is no guarantee of success.

Ps4 has more preorders than Wii U has released systems and Xbox doesn't have as many preorders as PS4.

Furthermore, when was the last time that the strongest console (by a long shot) was the 2nd cheapest?
solar  +   259d ago
still sold better and was the weakest console.
sigfredod  +   259d ago
so you are getting the wii u that will sell better since is the weakest and cheaper ?
rulparra  +   258d ago
Oh! "It isn't all about power"
If it not then tell me about the wii u......

you know what happend all the casual gamers tired about causal games.
frostypants  +   258d ago
The Wii is also the world's most expensive paperweight for most people who bought it. Let's not pretend it competed for the same audience.
dmitrijs88  +   259d ago
damn this face again
mistertwoturbo  +   259d ago
They were singing a different tune back in 2006

"I guarantee that Xbox 360 games will look better than PS3. Xbox 360 is easy to develop on and programmers have experience already. We will keep ahead of the curve for two to three years"

http://www.xboxic.com/news/...

Seems like they really cared about "looks" at that time.
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SmielmaN  +   259d ago
Funny how they change their message to consumers based on what they are trying to sell. I just believe some ppl are still falling for it despite all the factual information that has come out from the very beginning (can't ditch DRM "if you want a offline console, buy a 360"), kinect must be on (180'd even tho they said they wouldn't do that), to games running on PC's and cut the resolution by nearly half lately when running on "Xb one" (are they really running on final hardware yet in the wild???)... You know what? I'm so sick of that company I'm not even going to bother anymore. I love gaming, I owned both Microsoft consoles and I'm pretty sure I'm done with them. I loved halo, but I think I'm looking forward to Destiny instead. If your buying a xbone then good luck, I won't be giving M$ anymore of my money. Wasn't there just a article saying they were thinking of selling off Xbox and bing? Could this be dream cast 2.0???
dale_denton  +   259d ago
mr. spencer... that's easy to say when you don't have to pay for a console and games does it?
medman  +   259d ago
Those of us fortunate enough to have ps3's and 360's have been playing the games. For years. That is the problem Microsoft. Your first party titles are not competitive with what Sony offers. "Play the games not the resolution". Too bad you're getting your arse kicked on both accounts.
frostypants  +   258d ago
Yep...only time I used my 360 was for cross-platformers because they were generally better on the 360, and to play with my buddies who did the same. If the PS4 has the better cross-platformers, all that goes away for the Xbox One. Outside of Forza (which I love), the MS exclusive franchises are nothing special. I've never liked Halo, and Gears is just Uncharted with less depth. I'm not saying I won't ever buy a One, but at $499, it's a joke.
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otherZinc  +   259d ago
This is a great article for those that actually "READ" it;
Instead of only reading the click attention grabbing title.
Mr Pumblechook  +   259d ago
PS4 vs Xbone resolution - the difference.

http://img826.imageshack.us...
malol  +   259d ago
xbox fanboys/employees used to rub it all over PS fanboys how they get worse multiplats

i guess karma is a BITCH !
PSX04  +   259d ago
you are so right Spencer .... so I will keep x360 and will not buy xbone and for really next gen and numbers I will buy ps4
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3-4-5  +   258d ago
Games are more important than resolution. I spent this entire gen playing without the HD cables in my xbox 360.

Yea that is right.....NO HD for me at all this gen. Just didn't care to go get them once I realized it after a year.

Big deal. Games still were fun to play. Well some were.

I just don't trust Microsoft anymore.

I'm not a graphics snob...I still love 2D sprites.

PS4 for me this gen.
NateCole  +   258d ago
Someone please tell him that you play resolution when you play games as it is part of the game.

WTF?. Are MS reps really this stupid?.
aceitman  +   259d ago
tbh it wasn't that way on the 360 to them it was always said multiplatform games look better on the 360 than ps3 , but now tables are turned Microsoft's Phil Spencer Urges Gamers to Remember Games Are More Than Technical Specs that's called being a hypocrite.
Lord Maim  +   259d ago
No kidding. I should be able to do both, Spencer.
staticdash22  +   259d ago
Lol sorry phil

If tech is important one day, you cant claim it isn't as important anymore once the comparison doesn't favor you.
pyramidshead  +   259d ago
People need to realise the problem isn't solely the resolution, it's the paying £100 more for a system that can't match the power of the £100 cheaper system lol.

Pretty glad Sony's console won't bear the brunt of bad multiplats this gen, makes the future even more easier than it already was.
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Kayant  +   259d ago
Ikr it remind me of when I saw this on gaf. Major nelson seemed to think it mattered a lot in X360 times -

http://majornelson.com/2005...
http://majornelson.com/2005...
http://majornelson.com/2005...
http://majornelson.com/2005...

At the end of the day it does matter especially for third-party games because they are going to aim for both versions to have the same graphical effects most of the time & if you get a higher resolution on one it will produce a crisper/cleaner image. We can see this in BF4.

"As well as cutting down on jagged edges, this reduces the amount of pixel shimmer we see in motion on complex shaders or thin geometry, with distant power lines, scaffolding and other elements with sub-pixel elements creating unwanted flickering on Xbox One"

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
Red_Devilz  +   259d ago
Major Nelson is a well-known idiot shill. He lost any credibility he had when he tried to be smart@ss in front of Joe and said they can't just flip the switch.
aquamala  +   259d ago
"play the games, not the resolution"

ps3 gamers have been saying this all this gen to PC gamers
DirtyPimp  +   259d ago
damage control
madpuppy  +   259d ago
more like a "damaging lack of control"
staticdash22  +   259d ago
Oh, and I've made my stance so it's not changing

720p in almost 2014.......2014 is the key word here. It's almost 2014....wait, let me put emphasis on this....(2014), you know the year after 2013. It's not 2005 anymore. We have been running on 720p for years. Unfortunately yes, a game that cannot show a technical leap in 2013 with a supposed next gen console makes me furious. So unfortunately I have to pass on your product for failing to impress me out of the gate. 1080p > 720p no matter how you spin. Once I see 720p, that game has been delegated to 2nd or third tier interest. Gameplay might be fun, but I can always pick those games up later at a lower price.

So remember Phil, it's almost 2014, not 2005 lol
Drekken  +   259d ago
I have owned a 1080p TV for almost 5 years. I see no reason to spend $500 on a machine that can't natively fill my TV with 1080p. I feel that both consoles should be pushing 1080p 60fps without a problem from the first game. PS4 is pulling it off, but it almost feels like it should have been a little bit stronger *Bf4 @ 900p. I am hoping Bf4 is a fluke and all games will run at 1080p.

I will not spend $60 on any game not pushing 1080p. I think this is the only way to show devs we want 1080p.
BlackTar187  +   259d ago
You need to be careful with this. If ps4 has games running at lower res in the future you'll just be egg ont he face of ps4 gamers.

People need to lighten up a bit. The xbox only crowd was so happy with the 1 frame better games last gen and now they don't care. That said you really shouldn't sput off about something that could possibly backfire in a years time. It's just foolish
pwnsause_returns  +   259d ago
the only way i see them getting out of this pickle is to create their own studios and make their own games (1080p or not) for the X1 instead of just paying for exclusivity.

you know, experiences that you cant get anywhere else but X1.... they didn't want to listen. repercussions are to be made now.

Sony set themselves up for success since the launch of the PS3. they knew microsoft was going to be on a spending spree, so you know what they did? they expanded their world wide studios. the quality of their games exceed the average quality of third party games, including microsofts small third party.

and now that microsoft is at a disadvantage when it comes to power, its going to get worse for them when Sony's world Wide Studios (whom have learned how to program a difficult PS3) make games on an easy PS4.
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NoMercyOnlyRage  +   259d ago
"whom have learned how to program a difficult PS3) make games on an easy PS4.È

School of hard coding! they say. :P
die_fiend  +   259d ago
Not sure you can just 'create your own studios'. Microsoft don't exactly have a great reputation. With first party studios. Heard of Rare? Lion head?

Unfortunately PS4s first party line up is going to decimate anything on the Xbone
SmielmaN  +   259d ago
That's "fortunately" for me. I'm buying a Sony product because of their development teams. Show me anything from m$ that compares to naughty dogs titles? Or Sony Santa Monica's work? Or infamous (easily two of my favorite games from this gen)?
frostypants  +   258d ago
Microsoft is too politically jacked up internally right now for that to happen.
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-Foxtrot  +   259d ago
lol but if this was the other way round you would be p****** on Sony for not having great specs.
XboxFun  +   259d ago
It was the other way around. The PS3 was always known for being graphically better. TLoU and Uncharted were fine examples of this.

I love how people automatically just assume that if the tables were turned MS would do the same thing.
-Foxtrot  +   259d ago
There's a difference though with the PS3 you payed more for more...with the Xbox One your paying more for less compared to the PS4.

I mean they would do the same if the tables were turned, it's MS. You know the guys who crashed the PS3 launch party in Paris with a massive boat saying "XBOX 360 Loves You"
Joe913  +   259d ago
They kinda did 3rd party games sucked on ps3 in this case 3rd party games are going to be worse on xbox one but who knows Halo being made by in house dev team may kill it so it may be just like how ps3 was were 3rd party sucked and 1st party was the best I have one 3rd party game the rest are 1st party because they made the best games for the ps3 lol
BlackTar187  +   259d ago
xbox fun,

All you have to do is go to google and type

Xbox 360 vs PS3 graphics comparisons and click the multi plat games and you can see how much those difference mattered a year ago.

Now it doesn't at all. Consistency
mistertwoturbo  +   259d ago
O'Really?

"When you break down the numbers, Xbox 360 has provably more performance than PS3. Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance"

http://majornelson.com/2005...

Microsoft's Larry Hyrb cared so much he wrote 4 pages on how "superior" the 360 is to the PS3.

Now where's that 4 page article on the Xbox One vs the PS4? Non-existent.
EXVirtual  +   259d ago
It's almost 2014, Phil.
I know that the XBO will get it's optimization treatment (mainly getting around the ESRAM) soon enough, but the games will keep getting more and more demanding.

I don't think they'll be able to hit native 1080p on a regular basis. I think 900p upscaled to 1080p will be the situation for the XBO.
felidae  +   259d ago
yeah, but with stable framerates ;)
Foxhound922  +   259d ago
Dead rising says high.
Sevir  +   259d ago
As does Call of Duty:Ghost and Battlefield 4... which both suffer crap frame rates on the XBO!

like i said before MS has fooled its sheep into paying more for substantially less in comparison to it's closest competition!
felidae  +   259d ago
please, show me proof!
mistertwoturbo  +   259d ago
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

"Having moved ahead in terms of image quality, there's no doubt that Sony's new platform comes out on top overall in the performance metrics too. This is best demonstrated in matching sequences, such as a cut-scene on a Shanghai river where it commands a constant 2-4fps lead, and likewise during the tearing apart of a battleship. In terms of gameplay, the gap widens further during the cannister explosion on the Fishing in Baku stage, with a disparity at well above these numbers - the PS4 regaining 60fps much faster than the fluctuating Xbox One code. We see occasional XO wins in like-for-like testing too, but in our single-player tests, it is clearly the PS4 code that is in the ascendant."

http://www.joystiq.com/2013...

"But as soon as I had to travel somewhere far to trigger the next cutscene or event, I discovered any kind of speedy vehicle kills the frame rate."

http://www.cinemablend.com/...

"You'll notice that at the 0:44 mark in the first video there is frame stutter, and at the 0:45 mark in the second video you'll spot some of the frames dropping. You'll also get slight hints of continued frame drops throughout the second video when he makes quick movements"

So not only do they run at lower resolutions, they have frame rate issues too. Just because something is lower resolution doesn't automatically make it run smoothly. The XboxOne hardware is just weaker and harder to make games for.
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ZodTheRipper  +   259d ago
Just to be sure, did he really say that?

“If you were just looking at screen resolution and framerate, you’d be a PC gamer. Because you can spend $800 on a video card and put it in. I’ve built those rigs. I can play those games. And I understand that. But that doesn’t mean the best games are there. It doesn’t mean it’s the best all-in-one experience.”

Someone should bring this guy back to the real world he's in full PR-BS mode.
FlyingFoxy  +   259d ago
The only video cards that cost that much are Titan and Mars, overpriced and barely better than the model behind it. This guy's acting like some others do when they say PC gaming costs 2,000-3,000 building a rig.
ZodTheRipper  +   259d ago
But he's implying that you shouldn't expect up-to-date resolution&framerate in a next-gen console ...as an excuse for the Xbox not being able to do it.
Stick89  +   259d ago
Well he did make a point, I will be buying Titanfall on PC because it will look better on it >:]
mistertwoturbo  +   259d ago
Yeah all you really need is about a $200-$250 graphics card and it will do a majority of games at 1080p 60fps or greater.
badz149  +   259d ago
I think he's one of those pc noobs thinking that only top of the line cards are able to achieve 1080p/60fps! $800 GPU? I think they really don't realize that it's already upon 2014 where top of the line GPUs are now shooting for 4k/60fps!

Phil, the R9 270X, a $199 card breeze through 1080p/60fps max setting in almost all games bar couple of the most demanding games out there TODAY! your calendar is broken, Phil! we're no longer in 2006! it's almost 2014!
FAT MAN GO BOOM  +   259d ago
WOW, As gamers you would think we know exactly what games are and what they are about ...

What a pompous SOB, Specially after they have been pushing Xbox One specs onto us telling us how more powerful they are over 360 and what it can do... and all the other hardware that goes along with it all those specs...

Making it able to DL games and that... not to mention how they Gush over the specs of games like Forza and titan fall...

HHHmmmm I thin Phil should just shut his mouth... and climb down off his high horse so us wee gamers can tell him to F off to hid face...
Convas  +   259d ago
So ... the Xbox One isn't more powerful than the 360? They were wrong to talk about the capabilities of their machine? They shouldn't promote their games?
Sevir  +   259d ago
It is no denying but a 2013 Next gen game console shouldn't have 80% of its software so far be playing at 720p...
SmielmaN  +   259d ago
Xbone was rushed and two of its biggest games were 360 titles. They deserve nothing from consumers as they are just trying to bend you over a barrel while kinect records them doing it to you. They thought the shift was going to be casual games (a la Wii) so they have been gearing up this kinect angle for a long time. Now you see what you are getting: casual gaming and lots of cash tossed at their parties for timed exclusive content. That's what they offer. As far as gaming is concerned, Sony has been coming up big lately with in house studios and PS+ (which is the best thing to happen to gaming since 3D graphics, best $50 I have spent on gaming)
ZBlacktt  +   259d ago
Wouldn't that mean also better looking games? I mean this is Next gen. If I wanted current Gen, I would not buy a thing. More so something that is the most expensive console on the market coming.
MadMax  +   259d ago
Microsoft is just plain greedy! I dont know anyone buying an XboxOne. Everyone is buying a PS4!!!
Sevir  +   259d ago
I can list a few people on here buying the XBOX One! lol, but they convinced themselves its better!
Genecalypse  +   259d ago
Unless you can play the games and have the resolution...
CapsLocke  +   259d ago
The gut is right. Something similar was said my all console fanboys to PC elitists back in the previous generations. Now the difference that Sony fans suddenly care about resolution.
Joe913  +   259d ago
The guy is right hell indie devs are making 8bit looking games that seem kool but to me it is how they come across you shouldn’t be telling ppl that is buying your $500 device to focus on the games not the resolution I’m sure most gamers will do that anyway but to be told like that is not good PR kind of like how they handled the DRM stuff when ppl are going to spend 500 you don’t tell ppl to deal with it or focus on this or that lol. MS PR staff seem like kids that do not like when ppl disagree or make fun of them
BABY-JEDI  +   259d ago
You must admit that if or when you get your next gen console & find yourself playing the latest games at 720p. You would be disappointed? I know I would, & I mean this for both consoles.
CapsLocke  +   259d ago
Sorry, but we PC gamers had this resolution for like 5+ years already. Yet you console players getting it only next year, partly, barely.
SmielmaN  +   259d ago
I don't give two sharts about PC.
ziggurcat  +   259d ago
oh dear... they're actually using the "motion of the ocean" excuse.
stavrami  +   259d ago
play the game not the resolution ???? is that before or after you used a ps4 demo as a xbone cover up ??
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Fireseed  +   259d ago
Lolwut? I'm guessing your talking about the Watch_Dogs video aren't you?
stavrami  +   259d ago
yes if it does not matter why show the watchdogs video running on ps4 claiming to be xbone . i wonder what excuse we will hear for that one
Fireseed  +   259d ago
It was a mistake. As they almost immediately pulled the video. Which contradicts you saying that they used it as a "cover up."
MightyNoX  +   259d ago
@Fireseed Is that why they've advertised Killzone as an Xbone exclusives? At some point, a gaffe ceases to be a gaffe and becomes a Freudian slip. ;)
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SlapHappyJesus  +   259d ago
The thing is, there is a console on offer that has both. Some of the Microsoft exlusives definitely look promising, but so do those for the Playstation.
When it comes to multi-plat games, the Playstation is going to have an edge.

At the cheaper price point . . .

Both consoles are going to be worth buying, one way or another. At the end of the day, the Playstation is still an overall better package.
It's as simple as that.
Gamer666  +   259d ago
The same was said about PS3 vs. 360 last generation. While PS3 was struggling to maintain framerates during the first three years, 360 was cheaper and delivering better playing multi-platform games.

This generation it is reversed. PS4 has the easier to develop on platform and are hitting higher framerates and resolutions to start with.

Whether they maintain that as the generation moves forward is still up in the air.
SmielmaN  +   259d ago
The PS3 took over the last few years, your point is invalid
Gamer666  +   259d ago
@SmielmaN...

That is exactly my point...

Just because the gen starts with X1 at crappier frame rates and resolutions, does not mean it will continue through the whole generation.
Brazz  +   259d ago
yeah i will play games... in the better and less expensive console... or ,maybe, in my current Ps3 or PC.
Niv  +   259d ago
TVs are so big now, we need high resolution to maintain quality unlike
Early last gen were large plasmas wer maxed at 32/40 inch
Riderz1337  +   259d ago
He wouldn't be saying this if the roles were reversed. If Xbox was more powerful than PS4 he would be touting it as much as possible.
Rickgrimes95  +   259d ago
I'm so tired of the Microsoft spin zone
Gore-Content  +   259d ago
They say you don't need to care about the graphics. Then why even bother making a new console?
BTBuck1  +   259d ago
He would say that
SolarisLTP  +   259d ago
While he is correct in saying that it is more about the gameplay and how fun it is rather than the resolution, don't you think if MS did have the higher resolution/ graphical performance they would be bragging about it more. Plus 720p is not next gen PS3/360 could do 720p 60fps it seems like they cut corners to bump up the pointless kinect and the fact they took away DRM may of had an effect I don't know.
Niv  +   259d ago
The only way to match th ps4s graphics is to dumb down th rezz. Sad future goin to 4k
tehpees3  +   259d ago
Wasn't he the same guy who said Wii U was a 360 with a touch screen controller? He seemed to claim power was important then but now......
Sci0n  +   259d ago
yep and he can eat crow from making that comment too because the wii-u has more 1080p native games then the xbox-done. I will laugh if wii u gets ghost running at a native 1080p while the x1 couldn't.
rakentaja  +   259d ago
but to achieve the great experience, games should look good in the first place right?. It is next gen after all. 720p just not gonna blow us away..
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Ko_Uraki  +   259d ago
Troll title
Hicken  +   259d ago
Is the title not indicative of what he said?
oof46  +   259d ago
I think what worries Xbox fans is the fact that the system seems underpowered from the start.

But, honestly, if both systems have kick ass games, then each side should just enjoy whatever platform they choose. No need to continue this pissing contest.
YodaCracker  +   259d ago
If someone is worried about that, then they don't have to buy the console. Neither console is out yet. At this point, it's not like people are going about saying anything to defend their purchase. You can cancel your preorder at any time. There's nothing to defend.
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oof46  +   259d ago
The systems aren't even out yet, but people are already arguing like there's no tomorrow.
bacrec1  +   259d ago
But it's $499 though.
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