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Submitted by Dragonborn312 318d ago | interview

Turn 10 Boss Explains Nürburgring Absence from Forza 5

IGN: Fewer cars and tracks for Xbox One launch title unavoidable, says creative director. (Forza Motorsport 5, Xbox One)

Dragonborn312  +   318d ago
I really like Dan Greenwalt. From all the interviews I have watched, he seems to be extremely passionate about cars and video games. I like that he really cares about the level of detail for each car and track, and that him and his team at Turn 10 were not going to include cars and tracks that did not meet a certain level of detail. I am super excited for this game. November 22nd cannot come soon enough!
sigfredod  +   318d ago
Dan Greenawalt: It's been a successful program for us, having the paid DLC. Those that don't want it don't have to get it, and those that want it can buy it.
That say it all, the cocky statement make me sick
Yi-Long  +   318d ago
The DLC is the reason why I stopped buying the Forza games completely, unless they release 'complete editions' ...

... which sadly hasn't happened yet for Forza 4 and Horizon.

About Forza 5: I'm more interested about why the gorgeous Japanese mountain track is missing. LOVED THAT.
Dragonborn312  +   318d ago
I am disappointing at the lack of the Nurburgring, but I can live without it.
Gamer666  +   318d ago
Why is that cocky? They just said it is a successful model?

A lot of the car companies and tracks want royalties to put their stuff into games like Forza...

Paid DLC allows everyone to win... MS gets profit for the DLC they release, the tracks and car companies get profit, and the gamers can get all the stuff they want by picking and choosing their favorites... Why should MS have to take a financial loss to release a game they can't make money at?
GrizzliS1987  +   318d ago
a "simulator" without green hell is like a NBA2k14 without a basketball.
Every single race car ever made is tested on the Nurburgring. Lack of detail PR? lol wow

this PR talk aimed at xbots.
mcstorm  +   318d ago
I agree. I like how they want to have the game at the same quality all the way through and from the videos ive seen of Forza 5 it looks stunning and this along with KI was the reason I pre ordered a xbox one. Bring on the 22nd of November only 2 weeks and a day ish.

A lot of people seem to be going on about DLC but I don't recall Forza having tracks in DLC or 4 didn't.
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Killjoy3000  +   318d ago
Killer Instinct looks like every other fighting game, except a shitty developer is behind it. Moving on.
mcstorm  +   318d ago
@Killjoy3000 that's just like saying KZ looks like every other FPS game, Or GT looks like every other racing game. If you don't like it fine but let other people who are interested in a game be interested in it as it really should not bother you.
DRambo  +   318d ago
He is a total arse.
Dragonborn312  +   318d ago
How do you know that he is a total arse? What has he said or done that makes you think that?
DRambo  +   316d ago
Are kidding? The man spouts nothing but BS. Typical MS.
DEAD-DEVIL-DISCO  +   318d ago
greatest track in the world, know it like the back of my hand. itll always be around though. oh well
Lukas_Japonicus  +   318d ago
I know it like the back of my hand too, the amount of times i raced on that track on PGR4 is unreal. Maybe not the best version of the track in a racing game but i still know all 147 turns off by heart.

Shame it isn't in Forza 5, it should have been a priority. I have a feeling its going to be paid DLC, they seem to love that way of doings things. Shame.
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phil_75  +   318d ago
They seem to be extremely interested in DLC money is what they are!
Only 200 cars and 14 tracks but day 1 DLC and every month thereafter.
No NURBURGRING is unforgiveable and will have certainly been cut to be sold as DLC i guarantee it!

Held back content much? Typical MS!
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gamegenieny  +   318d ago
I've said similar things with dlc milking. My biggest issue is my wheel not working on it (CSR Elite). I'll just play GT6....
Playstationologist  +   318d ago
Considering they're running 1080/60, it's obvious why the track isn't there. There's no way they could make an attractive looking nur at that resolution/framerate on xbone. No. Way.
Naga  +   318d ago
I'm really bummed about this, and I really hope they provide an updated, fully-realized version in later DLC. Goodness... I've been in love with this track since the days of PGR2.

Wait a minute...

They bring on the rest of the Top Gear crew for Forza 5, and the Nurburgring mysteriously disappears.

... James May. You bastard.
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creeping judas  +   318d ago
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't like car pack DLC, and I have never paid for them. However if they would bring out track pack DLC I would pay for it. Still getting it day one, can't wait to Silverstone in all it's newly scanned glory!!
Stoppokingme  +   318d ago
This wouldn't be an issue if turn 10 had it's own way, it's the publishers pushing for an early release date and that's what causing the problems.

Push the release date back, no one will complain. Not many people are aware of just how much effort that goes into making a racing sim, turn 10 and polyphony pour hundreds if not thousands of hours into scanning every track and car to provide the best experience.

IMO there should not be DLC for racers, but as I mentioned earlier it's out of the devs hands, which is a pity.
christocolus  +   318d ago
thats alot of detail...it seems dan and his team take great pains into crafting every thing down to the smallest details... nice
likeaboss302  +   318d ago
Simple fix Turn 10. Off the track as free DLC when it's complete.
Koyes  +   318d ago
No excuse at all for day one DLC!
JonnyBigBoss  +   318d ago
This is a huge loss. Nurburgring is my favorite track!
InTheLab  +   318d ago
Wait till the actual gear heads that support this franchise find out how gimped this game is and that it will cost them almost the price of the entire game for a season pass filled with content that could be updated for free through the cloud.

The good news is, the game will be heavily discounted and bundled in about 4 months like all Forzas.
Deathdeliverer  +   318d ago
This Forza stuff pisses me off. He says fewer cars and tracks is unavoidable but that DLC is their cash cow. It has been very successful as in, we make tons of money by holding out and offering stuff at a cost later. How can anyone be cool with this? If having a small amount of cars and tracks, not to mention weather and time of day effects missing, was unavoidable then why is the game FULL price? They should sell this game at a greatly reduced price with DLC options. That's something I loved about NBA 2k. Anyone remember when they had a version that was $20 simply because not a lot had changed from the previous year? That's some honest, real shit right there. This Forza shit is terrible. They announced dlc, what it was, and the price for it and the game isn't even out yet!! How bold are you? To tell people we got shit lined up for you for release day or shortly after. Heres some screenshots and everything. Say what you want about Killer instinct but you get 1 character free in the "extended demo" and if Orchid is your thing you have only paid $5. Better yet, they know that game is starting with less characters than any fighting game ive seen in YEARS. But they also only charge $40 for the full, but still tiny roster in comparison to other fighting games charging $60 for the price of admission. Gran Turismo has an incredible amount of cars, tracks, weather, time of day changes and more for the same price as Forza. No matter how you feel about GT you cant tell me Forza deserves the same price tag? Plus ask for DLC? Plus simply say "Uh... sure we are missing a lot of stuff but guess what? We make tons of money on DLC so its OK!" In closing guys, they are taking advantage of us. Taking advantage of your loyalty to the brand, taking advantage of the lack of competition on the Xbox, and taking advantage of the fact that most people wont stop and think, hey what am I getting for this price? I say we take a stand with our money and not just ask for better graphics, but give us content too. Otherwise when games start coming out with weather pack DLC and other ridiculous shit, we can look at each other and say "This is the gaming future we helped create."
Knushwood Butt  +   317d ago
huh

* Goes back to looking at my GT6 pre-order *

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