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Submitted by Abriael 257d ago | video

Killzone: Shadow Fall Played in Remote Play on the PS Vita Shows Almost no Lag

Want to know how a rather hefty game like Killzone: Shadow Fall performs on the PS Vita via remoite play? Here’s a small clip showing exactly that. (Killzone: Shadow Fall, PS Vita, PS4)

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majiebeast  +   257d ago
I think he should upscale the video to 1080P. Loving how its a second screen aswell.
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Abriael  +   257d ago
Eh, showing the shiny graphics ain't really the purpose of the video, I'd say :D
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majiebeast  +   257d ago
It aint fun without a 1080P joke.
Abriael  +   257d ago
Ah, that flew right over my head lol.
Septic  +   257d ago
That is impressive. The VITA is a beast
Abriael  +   257d ago
@Septic: well, in this case the Vita does almost nothing :D It's just displaying a stream. The real beast is the video capture/streaming chip on the PS4.
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Sevir  +   257d ago
Abriael, the real beast is the Streaming technology powering it... Gaikai! I seriously can't wait for the PS4
DoomeDx  +   257d ago
^ What!?

Streaming a video over your own LAN network has nothing to do with Gaikai
majiebeast  +   257d ago
@Doomed

They are utilizing tech that Gaikai developed.

http://www.joystiq.com/2013...
shivvy24  +   257d ago
to the Australians here, Ps vita + killzone merc bundle for $188 at big w this Saturday only (9/11/13)
abzdine  +   257d ago
@Abriael: he's like me thinking about the idea of owning a Vita and make them communicate the way they did. Da Powaah of GAIKAI i will even say!!
i don't think streaming would have been possible on a 3DS for example if PS4 does it all. The screen and performance of Vita are also playing a good role in it.

Anyway!! i'm gonna make all kinds of gains in the toilet with Vita when PS4 comes out :D ... ALL KIIINDZ!!
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inveni0  +   257d ago
I'll be getting a Vita next year specifically to take advantage of this feature (and all of the free Vita games I've gotten with PS+ over the last couple of years).
mewhy32  +   257d ago
wow. the capabilities of the ps4 are just astounding. So glad that I preordered my PS4, extra DS4, and ShadowFall. I already have the DS4 and Shadowfall. Now just waiting on delivery of the might PS4.
Thegamer41  +   257d ago
"Almost" no lag? I see no lag at all.
Abriael  +   257d ago
If you pause it frame by frame you can see at times it's one frame late. Which is still extremely impressive.
Baylex  +   257d ago
I'm seeing Vitas flying off the shelves :P
Visiblemarc  +   257d ago
Just sit further away from your screen. ;)
clouds5  +   257d ago
Yeah so with the wii u everybody think it Sucks but now with Sony it's the best thing ever...
It's a great feature, playing like this since a year. But I can't imagine it being anywhere near as good with those small sticks... If you want true 2nd screen gaming get the system that was made for it. Imho.
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badz149  +   257d ago
yeah, since the Wii U came out earlier than Remote Play itself, right? oh...wait!

can I, you know, go some place else, like a relatives' or friends' houses and use the Wii U tablet to resume my games? aww...it's limited to a certain range only? not wifi enabled? so shut up!
patsrule316  +   257d ago
@badz who said "can I, you know, go some place else, like a relatives' or friends' houses and use the Wii U tablet to resume my games? aww...it's limited to a certain range only? not wifi enabled? so shut up! "

You don't know how well it will work over wifi yet. I am not getting my hopes up. In the PS4 FAQ itself, they HIGHLY recommend you use remote play over your home network. Although it can function over wifi, I would definitely expect some lag, which can possibly render games unplayable. I am open to the idea of being pleasantly surprised, but I am only counting on remote play to work well in my home.
GirlOnFire  +   257d ago
In that case Wii U is not the choice. It barely supports off screen play. While the PS4 everything is playable on Vita via remote play all but camera using games. I had Wii U and I couldn't play all my games like you said it was created specifically for. ^~^ Just saying.
clouds5  +   257d ago
@ quite: what? You couldn't do off screen gameplay with wii u? Then you got a different system than I. Almost every game is perfectly playable off screen.

I'm away at a different university this semester. Just brought my wii u and gamepad and I'm able to play all my games. Nothing else required. No wifi no TV no nothing. So how was the crazy expensive ps4 vita combo better again?
Mr_Writer85  +   257d ago
@Cloud5

'If you want true 2nd screen gaming get the system that was made for it. Imho.'

The only that only 48 out of 216 games use it?

You do know the PS4 does all the grunt work?

Also the PSP's remote play with PS3 say hi :)
clouds5  +   257d ago
@Mr_Writer85: Again, what games are you talking about? Every game I own on the Wii U (And I own most of them) use the 2nd screen in one way or the other.

Granted with some it's just basic stuff such as inventory and map management or additional buttons, but with others it's used for specific gameplay mechanics like scanning in ZombiU or ... don't even know how to describe it, you need to play it :) Wonderful 101.
And all of them support full off screen gameplay. ->you don't even need a TV.

I know PS4 does the work (whatever you mean by that? :) ) but from what I've seen so far it just mirrors the screen via wifi streaming to the vita screen and maps the controls to the vita buttons (I can do the same thing using my PC and android tablet/phone+BT controller with a remote desktop app or the nVidia Shield).

With the Wii U you can do full 2 player Coop/Multiplayer (online too!) in CoD, where every player has his own screen and controls (one on the TV with classic controller or wii mote and one with the gamepad). CoD Zombie was never so much fun ;)

Oh and the WiiU does all the grunt work in that situation. Rendering the game for both screens.

What I'm trying to say: The WiiU was _designed_ from the ground up for these features and it works flawlessly no matter how good your wifi is or where you are. Remote play on the Vita is a nice feature but it doesn't compare to what you're able to do with the WiiU (based on what I've seen from it SO FAR).

And as always, that is just my opinion. If you own a PS4 and Vita great, it's nice to have the option! But I wouldn't spend 600 bucks just to get that, when the WiiU costs half as much and does a better job at it.
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GirlOnFire  +   257d ago
I'm not trying to be rude and neither am I disagreeing you. I'm just saying ZombiU, Nintendoland, Super Mario U, and my Wii games couldn't go off screen play. Now with the update I know Wii games are playable. With Vita you can take it with you at a friends house and play over WiFi without PS4 present. I love Wii U no doubt I'm not trying to be smart with you. I'm not here for that. I try not to be fangirl of anything. ^~^ Hope you understand. Just to add PS4 doesn't require WiFi for remote play. I am talking about pulling the full game off the tv and play btw. Off screen play/remote play is different from second screen. Happy Gaming to you! ^~^
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lazyboyblue  +   257d ago
Those small sticks do a much better job than those horrid wiiu sticks.
kingPoS  +   257d ago
Remote play is great in that two different platforms can stand alone AND work in conjunction.

The WiiU pad in it's current form works only with the WiiU.
callahan09  +   257d ago
I need to get a Vita.
Themba76  +   257d ago
me too man I feel your pain.
Angels3785  +   257d ago
Buy of craigslist

Just bought a vita with 3 games a case and 16gb card for $150 its worth it!!
ipach  +   257d ago
be sure to get a new one if you can. vita's are pretty reliable, but i got one second hand and had to get it serviced almost immediately with all sorts of crashing and failage. sony support is really helpful, but being in warranty makes it that much better and free... though of course, i suppose for the right price, a used one is ok, also. but keep in mind, most repairs cost around $130...
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Xsilver  +   257d ago
KZSF running on Vita http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/X0GH... :D
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CaptCalvin  +   257d ago
Technically it isn't running on Vita.
Xsilver  +   257d ago
your rite.
JimmyLmao  +   257d ago
impressive little device!!
xReDeMpTiOnx  +   257d ago
Portable big boy hig killing gotta love it
Mr_Writer85  +   257d ago
PS Vita Remote Play with PS4 >>>>>>>&g t;>> Wii U off TV play.
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x2geex  +   257d ago
Killzone 40? The Vita is way too small and fragile to do any real gaming on. The gamepad is miles ahead!
Abriael  +   257d ago
Oooof course mate. Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night :D
Thegamer41  +   257d ago
Maybe for fps games but there are other genres out there that are perfect on the vita such as fighting and platform games (im sure there are more).
clouds5  +   257d ago
I absolutely agree with you. Can't compare to wii u gamepad... But the fanboyism is strong on n4g...
Mr_Writer85  +   257d ago
@x2geeX

Good luck taking the gamepad out on a bus to play a game....

Infact good luck trying to play a game on the off TV feature, how many games actually use it?
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badz149  +   257d ago
what? that single point touch screen and needing a charge every 2 hours thing? sure....whatever floats your boat!

on, if you haven't play KZ Mercenary, you don't know what portable FPS is!
tontontam0  +   257d ago
@Mr_Writer85

http://img.gawkerassets.com...

take that!!! not on the bus though.
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Mr_Writer85  +   257d ago
@tontotamo

Hahaha that's quite funny. Have a bubble :)

Now can you play games without the WiiU console?

;)
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Protagonist  +   257d ago
@x2geex

"The Vita is way too small and fragile to do any real gaming on."

Congratulations on making one of the most stupid comments on N4G.
GirlOnFire  +   257d ago
Were on the same team... :( No more war. Wii U is fine on its own. PS4/Vita is fine too. Peace yet?
OMNlPOTENT  +   257d ago
I think they'll both be great but since you wanted to start a flame war here are some positive and negatives.
-remote play positives-
better resolution
more powerful
better screen (the vita's oled screen is sexy)
-Negatives-
costs twice as much as the Wii U
less practical uses (probably won't be used as anything but a second screen)
using rear touch pad for l2/r2 isn't nearly as comfortable as a button.
So they even out to equals. Stop having your puny war and enjoy both.
Mr_Writer85  +   257d ago
@ Omnipotent

'costs twice as much as the Wii U '

Ermmm

PS Vita £150 (wi-fi only)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Son...

WiiU £275(basic)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nin...

'less practical uses (probably won't be used as anything but a second screen)'

It has its own games? It can be taken any where and doesnt need the PS4 to work...

Yes a balanced and well thought out post that is not.

You forget that remote play is a FEATURE, you dont need a Vita to play a PS4, or a PS4 to play a Vita, but if you do there is a feature that uses both.

And its put to much better use then the gamepad, which less than 1/4 off the WiiU's games use the feature.

You also forgot better range, and in theroy you could use remote play over a different network whilst the PS4 is still at home*

*although the preformance will probably drop alot.
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clouds5  +   257d ago
... priceless :D

So what you're telling me: All you need to REMOTE play PS4 games on your vita is a 150£ vita? You don't need the 350£ ps4 for that? Do the math.

Wii U costs 250£ for the 32gb after pricecut and it comes with a game. It's half the price and you get a game.

And that only 1/4 of wii u games use the 2nd screen is just a LIE. Plz...

And I'm talking strictly about the Vita being used as a 2nd screen for remote play. I know the Vita is a portable console and it's hard to compare to the wii u which is a home console. But this discussion is about remote play and not about mobile gaming.
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OMNlPOTENT  +   257d ago
@mr_writer85 I'm speaking only on the remote play feature not the damn console war lol. For remote play the ps4+vita costs TWICE as much as the Wii U does. For the remote play to WORK you need to put TWICE as much money into it. I'm not claiming Wii U is the better system I was only claiming that the remote play feature costs twice as much to use as the Wii U does. Second screen is a practical use but it doesn't have /as many/ uses as the Wii U gamepad does. For example for Wind Waker the Wii U the inventory and map screens are so much easier to access on the flow without having to pause. I'm not saying that it's better than having a second screen to play on. I'm saying that it has more uses than the Vita will have WITH remote play. I didn't know about the the being able to use remote play while the ps4 was at home feature though, that's cool :D hopefully the performance doesn't drop too much because that would be incredibly useful.
HighResHero  +   257d ago
Your "effort" is counterproductive at this point.
Edsword  +   257d ago
This is one of the features I am most excited about.
Tornado  +   257d ago
same here
Sony_Fan  +   257d ago
Almost?? thats not good enough for me.
Too bad Vita costs 200$ and isn't a justified purchase for anything but remote play because i would love this for my PS4. but its just too expensive for a peripheral.
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Visiblemarc  +   257d ago
So until they defy the laws of physics... literally...it won't be good enough for you? Check.
Abriael  +   257d ago
Here's a lesson on physics:

remote game streaming is made of data traveling through radio waves.

Radio waves don't move at the speed of light unless they're in a vacuum, and you really don't want to play games in a vacuum.

So yes, there will be a minimal amount of delay, and there's no way around it. It's called realism.

Since that "almost" seems to be one frame at worst, that's definitely good enough, and if it's not good enough for you, then any kind of remote playing is not for you.

It's that simple.
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Sevir  +   257d ago
Kapow.org well done Abriael!!!
Abriael  +   257d ago
Funny. Someone disagrees with physics. :D

Or maybe he likes to play games in a vacuum. Who knows.
_QQ_  +   257d ago
But he still is 100% correct about the other part.
SpinalRemains138  +   257d ago
Its not a peripheral, but I see what you did there.

There are plenty of games for everyone on the Vita.
SpiralTear  +   257d ago
Sorry, man: I cannot agree with that.

The Vita needs support badly right now and by support I mean full-fledged games that aren't just ports (though I will give props to Persona 4: Golden). Vita still needs games.

However, I expect this Remote Play aspect to move some attention the Vita's way. Being able to stream PS4 games to a handheld is something Sony needs to actually market as a feature. If someone saw an ad that said "play PS4 games on the go" (even on a less-than-stellar connection), they would be more motivated to invest in a Vita.
Otoshigamisama  +   257d ago
@PostMesmeric
Dude I have to disagree here Ps vita has a lot of games, maybe most of them do not appeal to you excluding what you wrote Persona 4 Golden I love that game its the best game I've ever played!! It has games not just ports man, The problem is that most of the games are in Japan, the problem is localization not the lack of games.
SoundGamer  +   257d ago
@PostMesmeric

You mean support with games that aren't ports like:

Killzone Mercenary
Tearaway
Batman Arkham Origins Blackgate
Gravity Rush
Freedom Wars
God Eater 2
Assassin's Creed III: Liberation
LittleBigPlanet PS Vita
Unit 13
Tales from Space: Mutant Blobs Attack
Uncharted Golden Abyss
New Little King's Story
DJMax Technika Tune
WipEout 2048
Escape Plan
Resistance Burning Skies
Little Deviants
Valhalla Knights 3
Soul Sacrifice
Ragnarok Odyssey
Sorcery Saga

??

Not to mention the tons of other games (including multiplatform, ports, HD remasters, and indies) that play well or the best on Vita.

*shrug*
Drekken  +   257d ago
You're right... the xbox version of remote play is so much better. Oh wait...
Regis  +   257d ago
They are making a vita Ps bundle right now and if that doesn't get you when the next version of vita comes out reduced price and 64gb price reduction as well.
HighResHero  +   257d ago
The Vita is much more than a "peripheral" and you know that.
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TheLastGuardian  +   257d ago
Change your name you fraud.

If you don't own a Vita you're missing out big time.
SpiralTear  +   257d ago
Doesn't Sony realize how good a PS4/Vita bundle would be right now?
WeAreLegion  +   257d ago
I think they do, but they're waiting until after Christmas. They want that $400 price point shoved in the faces of the public for awhile. Once that becomes common knowledge, then we'll see a separate SKU with the Vita in it.
medman  +   257d ago
Can we get a bundle that includes the PS4, a vita, and vita tv?
SpiralTear  +   257d ago
Why would you want all three? The Vita does everything the Vita TV does, but on something you can actually take out of your house.
medman  +   257d ago
I want the vita tv so i can play ps4 games on multiple tv's without moving the console, plus have the ability for handheld play.
Angels3785  +   257d ago
vita doesnt have a display out port...although that might change
teedogg80  +   257d ago
I will be getting good use of my Vita come next weekend. So damn glad to be a Vita owner.
sniperdx  +   257d ago
What happened to the feature that lets you take control of a friends ps4 from your ps4 and play the part they can't get pass sony hasn,t talked about that since they first announced the ps4
SoundGamer  +   257d ago
The PlayStation 4 FAQ said that it will not be available at launch but will be enabled sometime in the future with an update.
jmac53  +   257d ago
From what read today, this will also be released with the suspend/resume and they are targeting early 2014
leahcim  +   257d ago
I kneel and take my hat off in front of the VITA.

I love this shiny machine!
jmac53  +   257d ago
This just got me so hyped for next week!
gunboss201  +   257d ago
I'm only concerned for the batt life of vita when using remote play, otherwise I am Really excited to save up and get my ps4!!!

The only home console i got was a ps1..
mr.selfdestruct  +   257d ago
This time next week I will be enjoying my vita and ps4. The wait is killing me :(
extermin8or  +   257d ago
Damn I'm gonna go to the loo and not come out for hours now... forget im even on it hahahaahhaha :P no but seriously this looks like a great feature... :D
Misaka_x_Touma  +   256d ago
lol this comment section
sherimae2413  +   256d ago
then why are u here?
Misaka_x_Touma  +   256d ago
Because I can. I understand you don't like me being in Vita section. But let me tell you something I'm a gamer. I have a Wii U, 3DS, PS3 and 360. Planning to get a Vita early next year.

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