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Ryse's Design Director: Xbox One Can Pull Off 10,000 AIs At The Same Time Because of Cloud Computing

Ryse: Son of Rome has been the center of attention from media and gamers a like ever since it was confirmed to be running natively at 900p resolution instead of doing a native 1080p on the Xbox One.

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ANIALATOR1361415d ago

not 10,000 on screen characters with the actual hardware though.

The_Infected1415d ago (Edited 1415d ago )

To bad they can't make a good game with cloud power. All we hear is it can do this and do that but you never see it. All we see is 720p or 30fps or both like DR3.

pompombrum1415d ago (Edited 1415d ago )

Didn't you hear? Cloud computing ends wars, cures cancer and even makes little old ladies cups of tea!

Jokes aside, too many claims, very little demonstrations. I'll believe the "power of the cloud" when I see it in action.

CrossingEden1415d ago

Kinda like how they said that ps3 was capable of 1080p 120fps but all we got was the last of us at 720p/30fps, and suddenly as you are reading this comment and angrily typing down a reply saying "oh the last of us is amazing looking hurr durr." You stop and realize that numbers don't matter.

FANTA11801415d ago

you are talking as if the console has been out for years...

lmao

this place is full of clowns.

JokesOnYou1415d ago

Well I'm glad Microsoft is leading the way to implement whatever benefits cloud computing can bring, I hear sony is trying to catch up, when they actually start implementing it into games THEN sonyfanboys will love it too.

DragonKnight1415d ago

@Jokes: What benefits? Because so far only dedicated serves has been claimed to be a benefit at launch and dedicated servers aren't new. So what new benefits is "dah kloud" bringing that MS is implementing?

AngelicIceDiamond1415d ago

@Infected

So the console is just getting launched with first generation launch games.

Do you know what it means to wait and see? The console is just getting started relax.

JasonKCK1415d ago

"I'll believe the "power of the cloud" when I see it in action."

Onlive

mewhy321415d ago

what about all the xbones that won't be connected to the web???????

Dacapn1415d ago

Interesting.

Lair did 25,000 AI onscreen without cloud computing, and Lair was terrible. For that reason alone, when I see number statements like this to bolster a game, it indicates to me that the game will have no substance.

Nick_5151415d ago

@CrossingEden

That was with 2 or 4 PS3s.

PeaSFor1415d ago

"Look son, a pie in the sky."

nukeitall1415d ago

Smart AI would be awesome in games that don't have many online gamers. For instance, I would love to play more Gears of War: Judgment online, but the community is dead.

Playing against bot is so mind numbingly boring, so smart AI is one area I hope cloud will bring forward.

TRD4L1fe1415d ago

give it a few, you make it seem like the XB1 has been out for years......

pyramidshead1415d ago

Would hate to be around when a game utilises this and the XBLC network goes down and you're left with 10,000 dead AI lol.

badz1491415d ago

@Dacapn

Lair? aren't you forgetting something? "ONE MIRRION TROOPS"! rings any bell?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

SilentNegotiator1415d ago

Why would you leave something as immediately important and dynamic like AI up to cloud computing?

Furthermore, what significant tasks would you have 10,000 AI do? We've already seen "ONE MIRRION TROOBS" and what good did that do?

paul-p19881415d ago

Part of me really believes JokesOnYou is actually Steve Balmer or Bill Gates...

H0RSE1414d ago (Edited 1414d ago )

"To bad they can't make a good game with cloud power. All we hear is it can do this and do that but you never see it"

We never see it? The console hasn't even launched yet, thus no games either. Could your argument be a little less premature and maybe actually wait till the subject in discussion is actually available to the public?

People like you come off as though you want the cloud to be a failure, because if it's proven to do even half of what has been claimed, that's a big plus for MS and a big goose egg for Sony. The Xbox vs PS battle, is worse than the Cold War was...

H0RSE1414d ago (Edited 1414d ago )

@DragonKnight

"What benefits? Because so far only dedicated serves has been claimed to be a benefit at launch and dedicated servers aren't new. So what new benefits is "dah kloud" bringing that MS is implementing?"

Umm, Drivatar? http://www.joystiq.com/2013...

Titanfall is also using the cloud for more than just dedicated servers - likely the big reason why they didn't team with Sony - http://www.respawn.com/news...

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MorePowerOfGreen1415d ago

Nope no console can do that hence MSFT using the cloud compute to leave any local console hardware in the dust.

FITgamer1415d ago

Your comments make me feel like you are actually a Sony troll trolling to make Microsoft trolls look bad...or that you just stepped off the short bus.

MysticStrummer1415d ago

@FITgamer - Yeah some people here make me wonder if they actually believe what they say sometimes, and GreenGoggles is one of them for sure.

HammadTheBeast1415d ago

Does that mean if my internet drops for a second, suddenly 10 000 enemies will disappear from the screen?

Irishguy951415d ago (Edited 1415d ago )

Lol...its funny hearing this, what makes you think cloud computing can give processing power for 'only' ai? I don't think MS cloud is strong enough right now, but Cloud computing can process anything a normal computer can. Ai being one of them.

Use your head. That's all it takes. Ai is processed by local hardware. Ryse and Titanfall are using cloud for Ai so the X1 doesn't have to use it's processing power on it.

Yeah it sucks like God of war does hellz. Crap combat. All graphics. Oh wait...the graphics are usually enough for Fanboys to molest each other over.

MysticStrummer1415d ago

"Ryse and Titanfall are using cloud for Ai so the X1 doesn't have to use it's processing power on it."

Wow so without the cloud, Ryse would have been downgraded even more and Titanfall would be sub-720p. *slow clap for the cloud*

MS can throw as much money as they want at the cloud, but until the world's average internet connection gets much much faster they won't be able to use the cloud to the extent they imply they can right now.

Irishguy951415d ago (Edited 1415d ago )

I agree MysticStrummer, but all this 'power of the cloud lol' is nonsense, Cloud computing really does have the potential to negate the whole consoles being weak factor. A console can literally gain power as the cloud system is upgraded etc. For the moment it's only Ai that is being used by devs on the 360. I'm also certain Sony can get in on this whenever they want. MS are just the ones who are doing it first. They are doing it too early again, just like kinect. Overhyping something that simply isn't ready.

In the long run Cloud computing will likely take over console gaming, it will negate the idea of one console being more powerful than another. But not now that's for sure.

Also yes they would be worse without cloud Mystic, however we also have to remember, MS were rushed, their drivers are **** right now, if you don't know what this means, a few days ago Amd released new drivers for Batman Arkham origins, the performance of the game increase over 300%, that's how important drivers are. MS have a software problem, their console is not 100% weaker than the PS4(It certainly is weaker though). Although simply take a look at Ryse and see it can make great looking games. Although that's Crytek and Cryengine finally getting decent console hardware to mess around with.

HammadTheBeast1415d ago

Quick question irish.

If the internet of a person were to drop, would the game stop functioning?

LordDhampire1415d ago

its not the cloud what is to weak, internet around the world is to weak...if everyone had gigabit connections no ones would have problems we could all have onlive and play at 4k resolutions on ultra settings

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MestreRothN4G1415d ago

Yup. No console will be able to render 10.000 decent chars. Not over 1 fps at least.

zebramocha1415d ago

For some reason hearing the cloud makes me think of this.

http://www.lolbrary.com/con...

HammadTheBeast1415d ago

Ryse isn't rendering 10 k actual characters. 90% are duplicates. There was a blog about it on N4G, it's a couple months back.

MestreRothN4G1415d ago

Equal or not, they still have to be rendered in real time. Unless they always were showed through the exact same angle, like a Doom sprite.

Smartypants1415d ago

When I was a little kid, a simple can of beans could turn my bathtub into a mighty cloud-powered whirlpool.

cyclindk1415d ago (Edited 1415d ago )

@aiBreeze

Well PS3's (as well as PCs) [email protected] function WAS a form of cloud computing, or rather what's referred to as "distributed computing," and it WAS intended to benefit research in many of the following areas and more:

Alzheimer's disease
Huntington's disease
Cancer
Osteogenesis imperfecta
Viruses
Drug design

Magicite1415d ago

da powah of da effin clowd!

Kujii1415d ago (Edited 1415d ago )

Ryse: Use the cloud to Kill 10,000* enemies with one hand!

*number of enemies may vary depending on internet connection

mhunterjr1415d ago (Edited 1415d ago )

Really? Dynasty Warriors had thousands of characters onscreen on Xbox 360. Gears of war had several hundred at times. Lair had thousands on ps3. The problem was, in all these cases they were mindless hordes... And thats because the hardware could tender them, but could not process smart AI. There's no reason xb1 hardware coupled with cloud, couldn't provide the resources to handle this.

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XboxFun1415d ago

No, no, no. I read from the engineers on N4G that cloud computing can't be done. So I don't believe this actual game designer from Crytek.

Xsilver1415d ago

http://media.tumblr.com/tum... you do know saying it and doing it are two different things.

hellzsupernova1415d ago

It can be done, but it isn't viable at the moment, inforstructure isn't capable

MysticStrummer1415d ago

Actual engineers have said it can't be done, but you guys dismissed them too.

T21415d ago

You do know this is a video game forum right ? There are prob plenty of software engineers on here but you wouldnt listen anyway would you , just plug your ears , close your eyes , and yell real loud ... It will seem your point is valid .... To you.

XboxFun1415d ago (Edited 1415d ago )

Oh, and where are they? Kind of hard to distinguish them from all the "MS sux", "powers of da cloudz", "PR dribble" and other troll attempts without actually explaining why people believe it isn't possible.

I guess it goes both ways though right. It's easy to believe a poster on N4G who knocks the cloud and dismiss the actual word of an article about an actual devs working with MS and the Xbox One.

http://computer.howstuffwor...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

But yea, it's all fake...to you.

iceman061415d ago

@XboxFun...funny that you always bring up the N4G engineers, but dismiss actual computer scientist and engineers that actually say that at the moment it's more efficient to do everything that is done in the cloud on the hardware. You bring developers in, as if they are going to admit to the cloud not giving the benefits that it's touting right now. The argument is not about the cloud being FAKE. It's the assumption that the cloud, RIGHT NOW, can magically and more importantly significantly improve the performance of the Xbox 1. At this point, it would be exciting if it could...but due to all of the things that have been repeated ad nauseum it is highly unlikely in the near future.

johndoe112111415d ago

Wow, iceman, be careful, that's way too much logic. Tone it down a bit, you'll fry some people's brains.

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wishingW3L1415d ago

Why do they even try? Is the money bag that big that they are willing to stain their reputation for some cheap PR?

tudors1415d ago

I can see from your comment you are worried! it will work and we will see it, try not to loose too much sleep ;)

Godhimself_In_3d1415d ago

lol this thing is nothing but bad news f%#k xbox