Sony Canada set up a PlayStation 4 and then attached it to a massive Sony television in a somewhat swanky downtown Toronto condo, for media to book hands-on time with the console. We spent four hours with the console. Here are our impressions.
Infamous SS says hi. Plus, we all know that whatever Naughty Dog reveals will cause people to buy the PS4 faster than they can make them.
"we all know that whatever Naughty Dog reveals will cause people to buy the PS4 faster than they can make them" Well, I wouldn't agree with that. If we're going by the numbers, not even one TENTH of PS3 owners have bought an Uncharted game. Just because a game is good doesn't mean it will sell. Just like a game being subpar doesn't guarantee it will flop (Wii Fit, COD, Angry Birds etc.) There are other factors at play. Anyways, my comment is likely irrelevant as your probably exaggerating to make the point that ND's next game will make TONS of people have to go to Kohl's to get a new pack of underwear lol.
sonY sells the PlayStation brand no need for halo like game .. PS1 days we had some great series and nvr showed up since then so did the PS2 and probably the ps3 will except for some Fr. like GT
So this really isnt an issue. Look at this gen. Best exclusives looking at metascore by faarr
"Sony always have better first party line up" Subjective. Sony unquestionably has the stronger variety in exclusives, but "better" is a matter of opinion. And Metacritic is for fanboys and parents/grandparents trying to figure out what gifts they'll give to the gamer in their life. I don't give it much thought personally. @black0o- Totally agree. Sony has never relied on ONE franchise to sell their systems.
Killzone SF is the top pre ordered exclusive, I would say people want it pretty bad.
But that was when naughty dog wasnt as known and now they are being thought of as making the bar for this gen and next gen
Youre right, "better" is just a matter of opinion. But its my opinion and when it comes to games thats the only one I care about. And I'll just throw this out there, Sony supports their consoles with great games for longer through its lifecycle. Thats not opinion, thats documented, repeatedly proven fact.
@Scott- I agree..not sure how Shadowfall is relevant to my comment, but I agree. @Bathyj- Agreed, thats a fact. Sony supports their consoles much longer than their competition. That can't be argued against. @sckipt- ?????? Naughty Dog wasn't known before Uncharted, despite four Crash Bandicoot games and four Jak and Daxter games? Erm..sure. Whatever u say man.
@LOGICWINS I was piggybacking off your comment to be higher on the thread. I am such a cheater...
@scott- lol I see :)
it will be interesting to see if whatever naughty dog is making has gotten to the level of a system seller . in my opinion KZ or SS isn't at that level , probably the best system seller for the ps3 was mgs 4 .
Come on now logic, metacritic is not for fanboys. Besides, remember when the 360 had more high rated exclusives then the Ps3, Xbox fanboys would shout "The 360 has more high rated exclusives than the Ps3!"? So it's all a matter of convince and opportunity. Anyways, Killzone looks AMAZING, So do drive club and Second Son.
Wii fit isn't a game though. It's a fitness routine, and actually, I've heard it's a very effective fitness routine. But I digress, saying that Wii Fit isn't a good game is like saying that Microsoft Word isn't a good game. Just because something is software, doesn't mean it's a game.
resolution, price and performance are reasons enough to go for PS4 and are system sellers for many. not to mention the 1st party games that always lead the way.
Honestly I buy Ps consoles based off third party games mainly. Sony has a lot of first party games but few games I like. GOW was good, Uncharted was amazing, Resistance was alright, Demons Souls was amazing, KZ is alright, TLoU was good and not much else. They do have great third party games which have always sold sony's systems. On psx we had MGS, FF, and many other Square RPGs. On Ps2 we had DMC, MGS, FF, GTA, and a billion others. On ps3 we had MGS, Valkyria Chronicles, Demons Souls, Heavy Rain, Ni No Kuni and others. Right now there's no system sellers until FF15 and MGS hit hopefully next year. Def nothing from Sony unless they announce Demons Souls 2 or a big Jrpg.
LOGICWINS You have my Respect.
Sales don't represent most users numbers. Half the people who played uncharted bought it used or borrowed it.
what you seem to forget is that a game can be played on many machines which means people can lend games to each other, they can also buy the game used.. a big game is definitely a system seller, i can still buy a console just for that game just because i can borrow it from my friend or cousin when he's done with it. much much more people than the tenth as you call it have played the game and have bought a console just to play that game. Also, lots of quality games make people buy consoles- to answer the article, there are games for every taste at launch. just see how many free games will be available day one, add to that the F2P games like Deep Down, Warframe and more... All this while we haven't seen gameplay from The Order 1886, ND next game, MediaMolecule or Santa Monica.
"Well, I wouldn't agree with that. If we're going by the numbers, not even one TENTH of PS3 owners have bought an Uncharted game." But they bought the GTA5 bundle which will get them into UC which is better than any other 360 exclusive... Oh, not to mention The Last of Us is the same dev.... http://www.pcmag.com/articl... LOGICFAILS when you're you.
...and not even 1/6th of owners will buy a COD game, what's your point? Sony exclusives are a big draw for a lot of people, just like MS exclusives are popular among other people. Just because a game doesn't sell to a majority of owners doesn't mean it doesn't sell well or move units.
"Impressive" is a common word when talking about the PS4.
their already selling them faster than they can make em,this generation is over already
Killzone is more of a system seller than infamous ever was. Sucker punch have never managed to draw in huge numbers with the series. Perhaps they'll start now.
This is the actual headline from the article: "Preview: Sony’s PlayStation 4 is very impressive" Sony can't keep up with pre-orders at the moment so how the hell can this reworded headline be relevant?
What a silly headline. Launch consoles not going to have 30 plus games on the ready as for games well you could say same for xbox... Both have different ip both have same ip's not a bad thing. System sellers are a 2 way thing for me its what you get with it and what system has.. Example system 1 , 399 core system. With 320gb hdd system 2, 450 with 320gb plus uncharted or same system with GT the choice would then be a opinion to that persons. Now we know what sony are like we know how many "studios" sony has vs Microsoft i say doesn't matter just grab ps4 within first 6months more titles will emerge.
Those won't be available at launch. That's the point I'm trying to make.
Yeah, your totally right. But this isn't unusual. Its seldom that a system launches with a true system seller. Halo 3 and MGS4 weren't available at the launch of their respective consoles. The issue your referring to isnt a PS4 only issue. Evidently the PS4 doesnt need a system seller at the moment with well over .... ONE MILLION pre-orders *puts pinky in mouth* I'd rather these devs take their time to craft these games instead of rushing them out for launch.
And that is exactly what is happening with drive club and watch dogs.they not rushing to hit launch
Then the title should make it clear that you mean launch games :)
This is the main reason why I think I am going to wait on getting a ps4. I have it pre ordered..since its in high demand, I wonder if I could make a profit....hmmmmm -_-
Look at his Avi people, that's all you need to know. Move along, nothing to see here.
Don't worry Pat, the PS4 will be Perfectly fine when it launches. It doesn't need sell out titles.
Why would Sony need system sellers at launch, when their systems are sold out everywhere? For one it gives devs more time to polish their games, and 2 it'll give Sony a nice boost in sales in the future when they release "System Sellers" like Infamous SS, The Order 1886, God of War 4, GT7, Uncharted 4, or The Last of Us 2 etc.... MS doesn't really have system sellers at launch either, so don't know what point you're trying to make.
yes but id rather wait for them instead of paying $500 for s system that i cant trust with their longevity on exclusives
Killzone is a system seller for me. Plus, I don't buy a console for what it has available at launch. If that was the case I would have never bought a PS3 at launch and would have missed out on Uncharted series, Last of Us etc. The Order and inFAMOUS look to be amazing games, and that is why I am buying a PS4. Plus, having Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica as part of your first party studios is also a bonus =P
Why won't they? KZ4 is the highest pre-ordered exclusive on either console, and it has managed to accomplish that competing with COD and BF4. If you want to talk about at launch, fine, but the system will be sold out at launch so you're still wrong.
Don't worry, they'll come.
I think Knack will surprise a few people, but Resogun....holy crap that game looks good! And its technically free for people who buy a PS4 at launch since they'll get two weeks of Plus in the box.
Ditto on Knack. I've read some good things about that game. It may even end up bringing some of that older gen difficulty back that we lost this gen. People look at the game and write it off because they think it's for kids. I'm not saying it's Mario or Crash Bandicoot, but come on — imagine where we'd be if people just wrote off those series because they looked like they're for kids.
So extended time with the ds4 and limited time with the Xbox one controller was enough time for a fair assessment. And he believes Killzone plays like Halo. If I purchase the ps4 for Knack.... doesn't that technically make it a system seller? If I am willing to purchase ps4 without a game, does it really need a system seller... when it can sell all by itself?
Double comment, sorry.
Killzone: Shadow Fall was sitting on 250,000 pre-orders 2 weeks ago, outpacing games like Titanfall and Destiny, both labelled system sellers. http://www.gameranx.com/upd... Killzone is doing perfectly well at selling systems.
Isn't KZ the highest selling next gen game?
Yeah by far the highest preordered exclusive on both consoles and outpacing cod and BF4 on PS4. Its gonna sell a lot because its the best looking next gen game.
Killzone 3 had 172K pre orders before launch... Killzone Shadowfall has 283K with 2 weeks to go before launch. Looks like Shadowfall will have almost 2X the amount of pre orders.
Riderz1337, thats a pretty impressive stat when you consider that Killzones 3's userbase was probably around 60 million, while Shadowfall's userbase is currently zero.
@Riderz1337 Which is insane considering their respective install bases and availability of the console.
"Still, if you’re hoping for a huge graphical leap with the PlayStation 4, at least when it comes to Shadow Fall, you’ll probably end up being very disappointed" And that's it, that's where you stop reading.
Lol thats in the article thats pure comedy. Glad i didnt give it any clicks.
Wow I didn't click the article, did they actually say that LOL? I am shocked rofl. Who has seen that new 1 high bitrate footage? I think I've watched it over 10 times. Smooth 60 FPS with awesome 1080P res. That game is beautiful.
Sony Worldwide Studios will take care of that, November 15th here i come!!!!
What a load of crap! The quality and diversity of games on PS4 at launch is crazy compared to prior generations. It's way way way better! Exclusives wise you have resogun, shadow fall, contrast, and the witness right off the bat. Each of these looks amazing in their own right and should take me up until Christmas easy. Then you have free to play mmo type games for you cheap bastards- war frame, war thunder, planet side, dc online, etc You have upgraded ports so new playstation family members don't miss out, many of which are cross buy for those of us who already bought them (so free if you've bought before)- flower, sound shapes, escape plan, (sure we'll see upgraded versions of journey, unfinished swan and many more), trine 2, etc Some real gems that are finally coming to the playstation platform including- minecraft, fez, binding of issac, etc More announced exclusives coming by early next year including- infamous, the order, drive club, the show, rime, n++, velocity ultra 2, shadow of the beast, etc Add in what will likely be superior multiplats for most games (with at least better resolution based on early info), sprinkle in a dash of upgraded oddworld, a pinch of Destiny, and you have a crazy strong launch (window) line up. And that's not even half the list, I'm sure their will be some real surprise hits in there! And we haven't even even seen stuff from naughty dog, Santa Monica, LBP team, team ico (have faith), etc, etc... I'm more worried about finding the time and money for all these!!!
Another short sighted person with a memory deficit. The ps4 already has a large library of games at launch. Killzone is very much a system seller from what the critics are saying. Not to mention this is Sony we're talking about, the big guns will come and when they do they'll innovate the industry just as they did during the ps3. If that's your only jab at the ps4 then I feel sorry for you.
But, but. It's not Halo.... So obviously it can't move systems
Yeah, i think they should release all of their games day one, even the ones that aren't finshed yet....
Yes yes and the bone has system sellers like ryse, dead rising, killer instinct right?
Well one could argue that PS4 doesnt have that many games that are must have at launch. I happen to agree with that. But you could also argue that since the PS4 is likely to sell very well, and that a majority of those consoles will sell with a copy of Killzone, that Killzone is in fact, by definition, a system seller. I mean, no ones buying a PS4 for Knack are they?
Actually I am.knack is the first game I'm getting as well was kz on launch day on the 29th.pre ordered both and I think the first thing I'm gonna try out launch day is the playroom followed by knack
People seem to forget about PS3. It will be the best selling console this holiday. PS3 is cheaper and have a large library of games. Everyone is not gonna jump into next gen right away. I didn't get my 1st PS3 til MGS4 and it wasn't a launch game. The games will come. Besides I don't think Sony produced 10 million units of PS4 yet. No way can they sell millions of units that don't exist yet.
JBHIFI have a 500gb bundle for AU$388 (about the price of a 500gb by itself if you were dumb enough to buy one like that). Its has Battlefield 4, Assassins Creed 4 Last of Us and Man of Steel movie download. Thats virtually 3 games and a movie free. Unbelievable.
Sony will deliver. No worries.
gt, gta, forza, god of war, halo, Gears, kinect sports, mario, zelda, & mgs are system seller.
No Console ever has had SYSTEM selling games day 1 except maybe Super Mario Brothers for Nintendo way back in the day. Holiday 2014 we will see Teh system selling Gamez. The super Huge Exclusives are being worked to perfection right now and Publishers really want the systems to get their install base up higher before spending big dollars advertising their Big Budget projects. But as is BF4 KZ4 and Ryse to me are worth buying a new console in two weeks PLUS I see lots of Value in the next gen consoles to keep gamers happy until...... HALO XB1 Naughty Dogg next game PS4 arrive and start sending consoles flying off the shelf.
PS4 doesn't already have system selling games??? Could have fooled me.
it doesn't have any to be honest maybe KHIII but that not exclusive
What a dumb headline. You would think by reading it xb1 has more preorders and Sony doesn't have a ton of studios making games for the PS4.
From the million+ PS4 pre-orders, that pretty much says people don't care if the console has system sellers at launch or not. Plus with the many games in production for the PS4, prepare for a lovely ride because it won't take as long for games to come out on PS4 like it did on the PS3 and we're gonna see a steady flow of games release back to back like running water out of a faucet.
I agree 100% what the PS4 needs is a bonafide system seller, a game that shows some of the power the machine is capable of you know ? I'm thinking maybe a re-hash of a button smashing fighter from 1992 and since MS already beat Sony to th punch with Killer Instinct and they could not get Mortal Kombat I guess we're stuck with that god awfull Killzone Shadowfall.