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Gamers Attack Adam Sessler Over Controversial PS4, Xbox One Comments

By now, most gamers who keep up to date with core gaming news may have heard about a situation that's being deemed “Resolutiongate”. The scenario has spawned from the stark disparity between the Xbox One and PS4's resolution differences in multiplatform games. Well, a lot of big pundits and gaming heads have chimed in on the matter and most don't think it's a serious issue at all. (Industry, PS4, Xbox One)

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allformats  +   163d ago | Well said
On the Adam Sessler matter:

Context is key here.

And the context in this very case is a comparison between two different versions of the same game. In this case, his argument about "new experiences" or whatever is completely irrelevant. We are talking about a comparison of two different platforms on which to have more or less the same experience, in which one machine is performing at a higher level than the other.

That's the context. That's the subject he's addressing.

So, in context, by bringing up this "new experiences" argument in a discussion about the measurable, technical differences between two versions of the same game, Sessler is not only moving the goalposts...he's trying to burn down the scoreboard.

You don't see how, in talking about two versions of the same game, this sudden blindspot towards measurable technical deficiencies in the XBone version is troubling? You honestly can't reason past his trumped-up argument about "new experiences" to see that it's a classic fallacy of "false choice?"

Look, for months we've known about the numbers. The numbers say the PS4 is the more powerful console. More FLOP performance, more ROPs, more ACEs, faster RAM, ect. We've known that. But the dialog we've gotten in response from Microsoft, the media pundits, and the XBone fans has been basically, "the numbers don't tell the whole story...wait until you see the games!"

Well, we're seeing the games. Now they want us to ignore what we're seeing.

But what we are seeing is important. The reason why multi-platform console titles are important is because, in the console world, the public doesn't have access to benchmarking results. If any multi-plat dev teams do benchmark the hardware, those results are locked behind licensing agreements and NDAs. While multiplatform games will never be a true benchmark, they are a valuable "snapshot" look at the state of the boxes and what these very smart teams of developers can wring out of them at the time.

Why is the technical performance of the box so important? Because, even though framerate and resolution are way more important than some pundits are now trying to claim, it won't always be about putting more pixels on screen, or refreshing the screen at a higher framerate. The same power that lets you do those things is the same power that lets you present more immersive art assets, makes an AI routine a little smarter, makes a character animate better, or makes more physics possible.

...and that gets us right back to Sessler's core point about making better games.

...and that gets us right back to Sessler being a huge hypocrite.

...and that gets us right back to the part where he and his defenders try to make US GAMERS the bad guys for pointing out his hypocrisy.
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yellowgerbil  +   163d ago | Funny
everytime the numbers confuse me I think about my 1st grade teacher and remember 4 is a bigger number than 1 and it all makes sense again
xHeavYx  +   163d ago
I posted this before.
Here is a video from Adam Sessler, at around the 1:37 mark he says how next gen games should be 60fps 1080p http://www.youtube.com/watc... Then he goes and makes that video about Resolutiongate.
I knew this guy preferred the Xbox over the PS brand, but I used to respect his opinion, not anymore
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LOGICWINS  +   163d ago
^^Its not about him preferring Xbox(thats a big leap), its about him disliking rabid fanboyism/extremism so much that he's willing to contradict himself in order to make a point. Heavy, applying your logic, anyone that downplays or simply cant tell the difference between 720p and 1080 prefers the Xbox over the PS brand...that doesn't make much sense does it.

Applying your reasoning, most humans (this includes non-gamers) are Xbox fanboys as they cant tell the difference between 720p and 1080p.

He is in fact a hypocrite, just not for the reasons you think. I wonder how he will respond to this vid.
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xHeavYx  +   163d ago
@Logic
"Its not about him preferring Xbox, its about him disliking rabid fanboyism/extremism so much that he's willing to contradict himself in order to make a point"
Wow, you hit a new low with that comment. By the way, Adam Sessler is the one who said in some video that he prefers the 360 over the PS3

EDIT: "applying your logic, anyone that downplays or simply cant tell the difference between 720p and 1080 prefers the Xbox over the PS brand"
You are on a roll today. No one is talking about people not noticing a difference, but people like Sessler say that it doesn't matter if the game is 720p or 1080p, even though they said the opposite in the past
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mewhy32  +   163d ago | Well said
Well I have to say that if microsoft had shipped w/o the kinect and at a 350.00 price point this resolution thing wouldn't be such a big deal. But as it stands....microsoft is charging you 499.99 for a machine that can't offer the same resolution as a 399.99 machine? That's a problem.
LOGICWINS  +   163d ago
I've hit a "new low" because I didn't automatically jump to the conclusion that Sessler has chosen a "side" in this dreamed up console war? Yeah, stupid me. /s

Forgive me for attempting to take the high road in this matter.

"No one is talking about people not noticing a difference, but people like Sessler say that it doesn't matter if the game is 720p or 1080p, even though they said the opposite in the past"

The fact that MOST people can't notice the difference is precisely the REASON why it doesn't matter. And I agreed with you, he is in fact a hypocrite. He clearly explained in his "ResolutionGate" video that he doesn't like these talks about resolution because they are overshadowing the games themselves...this led him to saying that resolution doesn't matter(an error on his part). He should have said that resolution DOES matter, but it shouldnt overshadow the games themselves.

The intentions behind his hypocrisy comes from a genuine place, he simply made a HUGE error in his wording.

Where in that video did he imply that he had a preference for Xbox over PS? Thats your own imagination. From your comments, its clear that you have a heavy (Get it?) preference for one of these consoles, therefore you believe that everyone has your extremist way of thinking.

We have established that Adam is a hypocrite, but how does that hypocrisy lead to Adam preferring the Xbox brand? How did you come up with that connection?
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Destrania  +   163d ago
@Neonridr

That was funny lol +bubbles

@allformats

Insightful and well said +bubbles
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fenome  +   163d ago
@Logicwins

Actually anybody can notice the difference between 720p and 1080p it just depends on how big your display is and far away from it you are. That's why smaller displays are typically 720p there's no point in 1080p in a smaller tv.

http://www.digitaltrends.co...

For people with smaller displays or that sit far away from their tv won't even notice. I would, so this does apply.

I have a 60" tv in my bedroom and I game around 6-8 feet from it, I can tell a noticeable difference between 720p and 1080p.

EDIT:
Shouldn't have included Logicwins in this, just realised he said MOST people won't notice. Which is true, just depends on how big of a screen you got.
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aCasualGamer  +   163d ago
Too me, it's fairly simple...

If any company expects me to buy a new console for $400+ then they better fu***ng produce hardware that will give us more than just PS3 2.0 and 360 2.0. I want true nextgen, not just some minor polishing in current gen games(watch comparison between current gen COD and nextgen COD). I want something substantial.

Now that i think about it, it's quite sad actually. That the entire gaming industry has become nothing but Activision wannabees.

=/

If this is all that the nextgen has to offer then i'll pass.
Brutallyhonest   163d ago | Trolling | show
tablav  +   163d ago
@aCasualGamer

The argument here is more about resolutions and, whilst I get what you're saying, don't forget that these new systems ARE much more powerful, but you have to look beyond launch titles.

Comparing COD: Ghosts PS3 to PS4, for example, is pointless, because they are the same game developed at the same time. What you want to do is compare something like Resistance to TLOU as this shows the improvement over a console life cycle.

My point is that the hardware is capable, but you have to give the developers more time to get used to the systems. Also, over time games will be developed more for next-gen systems ONLY therefore they won't have to be held back by the restrictions of older hardware requiring multiplat releases.

Edit: OT - Sessler shouldn't even be given publicity for this. Both systems will be out soon and the people can fully judge for themselves.
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4me2  +   163d ago
I remember in 2005 there was so many articles that people can not tell the difference between DVD and Blu-ray. People see what they want to see and create argument that justifies their choice.
iHEARTboobs  +   163d ago
I think Logic hit the nail on the head.
webeblazing  +   163d ago
i don't why logic have a lot of disagrees he said adam did contradict himself. but had a valid point look at this site to see his point.

I truthfully don't care about the res situation maybe because the told everyone they was investing in Kinect. obviously your going to take a hit somewhere.

and I find it crazy that people gamers on this site saying if someone but xbone their dumb. if you buy xbone you must like the game or experience or like Kinect which upped the price.

people are just using this for ammo. this whole gen is gonna be like revenge of the nerds(psfanboy=nerds xbox fanboys=jocks)
SilentNegotiator  +   163d ago | Well said
Typical Sessler.

Says that he wants 1080p60fps, downplays the differences between 720p60fps and 1080p60fps when his beloved Xbox comes out on the bottom.

Then he uses the pathetic "It was only a joke!" cop out. So many morons think that they can just say everything in a snarky way and call anything they get criticized for "only a joke"
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kreate  +   163d ago
adam sessler is a fanboy himself, yet he complains about other fanboys ....
Nick_515  +   163d ago
I don't care what anyone says, but it's obvious Adam has been trying to balance things lately. Same as Greg Miller (and others, to a lesser extent). People that obviously know and prefer PlayStation are trying to balance people's opinions. I don't like it and find it annoying, but it has to be done. Microsoft can't leave the console space. Sony can't be the only console. It just can't happen and if it gets too bad Microsoft could leave.

However, I do think that Microsoft needs to learn a lesson from this and /maybe/ do better next time. It could be switched next gen. I know it doesn't matter now, but it has to happen or else that could be it for Xbox. I've never really cared for Xbox, but I do use Microsoft everything else and I do like the competition. I don't believe it would be the same Sony if Microsoft wasn't involved.
Prime157  +   163d ago
@LogicWins, "The fact that MOST people can't notice the difference is precisely the REASON why it doesn't matter."

That's the thing though, they don't notice the difference and a lot of us can tell the difference and what's happening on the screen. Everyone is discrediting the people who can see the difference, and all we want is for someone to go, "Yes, you may be able to tell the difference when your brain starts noticing the difference in the future."

Or at least we want people to acknowledge that most streams don't stream 60fps Gameplay, and when you're trying to watch a 1080p vs a 720p comparison on youtube it's like trying fine wines. Most can't tell the difference, but there are many who can tell the difference.

Stop lying to yourselves. With experience (aka the more we get into this generation) will come the ability to tell. The human brain DOES THAT and has DONE THAT since we were babies.

@Nick:
I agree, no one console should rule them all. But give credit where credit is due. I do like the idea of dedicated servers. I'd like an xbox fanboy to fess up and just be like, "Ok, the numbers were true, and your system is more powerful." Instead of making excuses for the XBone.
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XGamer  +   163d ago
I understand out of the gate Xbox One bas a difficullt eram fo program with, however and nobody can deny yes ps4 bas better resololution, close frame rates, But how do you describe why Xbox One graphics are better tban ps4? Take off the fanboy goggles bc they are clearly better richer more vibrant and DETAILED. So yea upscaled 1080p is fine especially when it looks better
Sevir  +   163d ago | Well said
I have to laugh as the media, MS and the fanboys try to make the water muddy on this issue!!!

Listen, the fact is this issue is big and people have a right to raise questions because they are paying a premium, getting less though paying more!

This downplaying of the issue when the disparities are clear and noticeable and showing off in more than one product is the reason why it's in the media.

Remember, Sony and the PS3 was torn to SHREDS for significantly less apparent disparities, even when multiplats ran at the same resolution across both but ps3 had a dip here or there or the PS3 had screen tearing, it was torn asunder to no end, and it had a 200 premium over the Xbox 360... The media didn't down play it, intact the media deducted points in the PS3 version and these were all minor things considered.

Where is the journalistic integrity now that this is happening to MS... Where Sony wrote it's wrongs and crafted a machine that runs software better, the media down plays the advancements!

Look, I don't give a flying f*** if you're excited about the Xbox one, but please don't cry wolf when things are clear, the quantifiable facts show the box is under powered in comparison to the cheaper ps4 and that's the whole point of why this is such a big deal... THE MEDIA, MS and PUNDITS are saying it's OK to pay $100 to have a product run a game LESS THAN STELLAR than it's cheaper competitor's box.

Everyone spending money has a right to question abd raise flags when something like this is happening and clear from the onset. If you're a faithful to whatever platform good for you, go buy it, but to the undecided using disparities to make up there mind should not be conned by media pundits being dishonest when $400/$500 is at stake...

It mattered when the PS3 was $200 more expensive with less noticeable differences and I'll be fanned if MS, these biased ass media pundits and blind Xbox fans tell me paying more for substantially less doesn't matter now, because their favorite brand isn't the popular likeable product right now...
Army_of_Darkness  +   163d ago
Whether or not people see the difference between 720p and 1080p isn't the point because the point is that games for next generation should all be 1080p @30fps/60fps otherwise, why even bother releasing a new console if we already have current consoles displaying 720p from the very beginning of their life cycle? ?

We are going on 4k resolution and these fools are acting like 720p is still acceptable for another 8 more years?? ! Really?! Come on! Open your F@#King eyes!
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FamilyGuy  +   163d ago
Even if someone can't see the difference between native 1080p and 1080p that's been upscaled from 720p AND even if they ignore that the PS4 version has more of a steady frame rate which means that it's literally running better on a technical level the one thing you can't dismiss is the price difference.

If both games were 100% equal on all terms there is STILL the fact that one console cost $100 more than the other. Similar or not that $100 bucks could be put to better use.
badz149  +   163d ago | Well said
it's actually pretty simple actually. who ever is saying that resolution doesn't matter is simply a BIG FAT HYPOCRITES!

remember when the 360 version of GTA IV running 720p and the PS3 version running 640p? and then RDR having a slight advantage on the 360 over PS3? the bashing and taunting the PS3 got was ridiculous! over what...80 horizontal lines?? in terms of pixel count, it was a bit over 25% in favor of the 360! but now, the difference is around 56% (at higher fps to boot) in BF4 and 125% in CoD:Ghost, and suddenly it doesn't matter? GTFO with your bias!

Sessler should be a gamer first and a journalist! he can have preferences or be a fanboy of a certain console at heart for all I care but blatantly showing it to the public while trying to appear as "neutral" is a DUMB move! he had just thrown all the credibility he had left (if there was any) out of the window!
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ArmrdChaos  +   163d ago
This thread is amusing as hell. It has thesis paper written all over it.
memots  +   162d ago
I refused to believe he was bias, But its started to show in the pass couple years , And its more and more evident now. It sucks cause i used to like the guy.
Death  +   162d ago
Not to correct anyone while they are on a roll, but it isn't 720 vs 1080. It's upscaled 1080p vs native 1080p. The Xbox One and PS4 have a hardware upscaler that outputs all games to 1080p. So the question become how many people can tell the difference between native 1080p and upscaled 1080p?
Dmarc  +   162d ago
@heavy
I wouldn't call a person that changes their perspective over time a hypocrite because everyday we learn something new and have miniature epiphanies.But I assume ( since I didn't watch the video nor do I personally care about this), he didn't clarify his reasonings for his change of heart, and if so I assume he will clarify sooner than later.I believe people are taking this 720p vs 1080p too serious ,and too far with these hypothetical situations such gimped games, and a more expensive machine with lesser specs.. umm PC have been in the same situation with consoles for the past decade and its thriving, aside from the occasional later release date.So PS4 will be just fine.
Don't get me wrong I completely understand the backlash gamers are giving these sites for downplaying and not actually explaining the differences and why 1 is better than the other, and I think its more than justified.But this thing with sessler seems a bit premature
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H0RSE  +   162d ago
For all the "less for more" or similar remarks, concerning the price of the xbox, all your claims are inaccurate.

The increased price of the xbox has nothing to do with the inclusion of superior hardware, nor does it have anything to do with a promise of or claim of such. The xbox costs more, beecause you are physically getting more - The Kinect, as well as the HDMI-in port, which regardless how insignificant you may find it, is going to drive up the initial cost. The price has nothing to do with graphics/processing power.

All of you need to just stop with "less for more" comments, since they are completely off base. The fact is, the xbox is a case of "more for more." You pay more because you physically get more.
LeCreuset  +   162d ago
WeBeBlazing:

"I truthfully don't care about the res situation maybe because the told everyone they was investing in Kinect. obviously your going to take a hit somewhere.

"and I find it crazy that people gamers on this site saying if someone but xbone their dumb."

Further down in the comments section...

XGamer:

"I understand out of the gate Xbox One bas a difficullt eram fo program with, however and nobody can deny yes ps4 bas better resololution, close frame rates, But how do you describe why Xbox One graphics are better tban ps4? Take off the fanboy goggles bc they are clearly better richer more vibrant and DETAILED. So yea upscaled 1080p is fine especially when it looks better"

Now do you get it?
clouds5  +   162d ago
@Army_of_darkness:

No offense, but that is exactly why console gamers shouldn't really care about stuff like resolution when they have no idea how gaming systems work. Resolution was the least of the devs problems with last gen.
The biggest limiting factor was RAM. That's where the new gen has obviously improved most.

A console is a BUDGET system that tries to be as cheap as possible, sacrificing performance for prize. You get what you get. If you do care about resolution and want the best graphics possible you can get, then you have to invest a bit more in your system (not much more, but more) and get a decent PC.

The PS4 has extremly good price/performance ratio and so does the XB1, but the problem is, they bundle Kinect which pushes the price.
No one is forcing you to get either of them, if they don't offer what you're looking for you know ;)
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nukeitall  +   162d ago
@gerbil:

"everytime the numbers confuse me I think about my 1st grade teacher and remember 4 is a bigger number than 1 and it all makes sense again"

How about I give you a 200 cents, and you give me back a 100 dollars?

Surely 200 is larger than 100, so I'm doing you a favor.

=D
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Gekko36  +   162d ago
@xHeavYx

I expect that based on your stance on the subject, you will never play a game that is not 1080p and 60fps?
Buzz7S  +   162d ago
Your "1st grade teacher" forgot to teach you about capital letters and full stops.
deepio  +   162d ago
Not that I am disputing that there is a difference (in fact I am quite worried about the XBO), but I wonder how many people actually sit close enough to the TVs to notice the difference between 720p and 1080p...

http://www.digitaltrends.co...
RealtorMDandDC  +   162d ago
Well said and bubble
Brutallyhonest  +   162d ago
H0RSE

"The Kinect, as well as the HDMI-in port, which regardless how insignificant you may find it, is going to drive up the initial cost."

That's exactly the point. Most core MS fans don't care about Kinect. Nearly every 360 gamer I know that tried it all had the same response. I was bored with it after a couple times using it.

The HDMI input is only for those that will use it as a to control their sat or cable receivers. That's useless for an HT enthusiast like myself. IMO MS is 2 years (plus) late to the party to offer this feature. This ALL in one box is mostly targeted toward NA where the TV audience is dropping off. Most of the younger crowd watch movies, sports, etc on smart phones and tablets on the go.

There is practically next to nothing MS is offering (other than gaming) with the XBOX ONE that can't be done on smart phones, smart TV's, laptops, tablets, PC's, etc. Even voice and camera controls exist on the tech I listed.

I have the ability to change channels with my Samsung Note III using voice controls using a DirecTv app. My Samsung smart displays have voice and camera controls. Like with Kinect that was cute for a day. I just grab my universal remote to control my displays, sat box and sound system. Hell my remote controls the lighten and ceiling fans in my home. Do that with an X1.

MS basically is given up resources for this all in one box that most of the core audience, as with Kinect, could care less about it.

If they want to implement these features? Fine
Just don't do it at the expense of not giving your core audience the best gaming experience you can possibly deliver. Especially if it's going to drive up cost. They aren't doing that. The XBOX ONE has been gimped to implement these features because MS is once again chasing after a different audience other than just the core gamers.

What ever floats their boat. I'm a core gamer, as is most 360 and PS3 consumers I know. I don't use my gaming consoles for anything but gaming. I want the best gaming experience I can get. MS isn't offering me that this time around. They can chase after a different audience. CIAO, it's been real. I packed up my bags and going to the land of Sony.

At it's core, a gaming console, MS is offering less power for more money. Good luck with that. So far it appears only their extreme hardcore fanbase, mostly the COD and Halo crowd, doesn't have a problem with that. I myself have gamed more on MS hardware over the past decade plus that any other hardware. Not anymore. I wont be made a fool a 3rd time.
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LeCreuset  +   162d ago
@Brutallyhonest

+Well Said.

You just captured what this whole console war is about. The Xbox side just does not want to accept the truth of what you said: The Xbox 1 was built as an entertainment system at the expense of its gaming capabilities. That's why it is the higher priced tech but outperformed by PS4. They sacrificed the gaming for a bunch of features that really aren't worth it. If Kinect 2 were as vital as they claim, MS wouldn't have to force it upon anyone that wants an XB1 by including it with every console. It would be able to sell on its own merits.
devwan  +   162d ago
@Nick_515

"I don't care what anyone says"

You mean LALALALA fingers are in your ears? Interesting...

"but it's obvious Adam has been trying to balance things lately"

Balance? That word again! Which balance would that be, the xbone's ossum balance or his bank balance we're talking about now?

http://i.minus.com/ibtxfEV5...
IcicleTrepan  +   162d ago
Did your first grade teacher also teach you to compare product names with numbers in them using mathematical operators in order to decide what to buy?

Seriously, we all know the PS4 is more powerful, but not for this stupid reason. What's printed on the box doesn't really matter. What's in the box is what counts.
MikeGdaGod  +   162d ago
if the you can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, and resolution doesn't matter....why spend more money on 1080p tv??? why not just get a cheaper 720p tv???
UltimateMaster  +   162d ago
The only controversial thing in there is in his comments is that he's contradicting himself every time. XD

Come on people, he gave a 2/5 score for FF7 CC, which was one the best PSP game ever.

If that's the case, I'll just go full blown retarded fanboy-like Sessler and say Gears of War and Halo are -3/10.
Completely stupid, isn't it? Yet that what he does day in and day out.
Chrisgamerguy  +   162d ago
Ok so if they naked it xbox 5 instead then it would be better than the ps4... Wow
H0RSE  +   161d ago
@Brutallyhonest

“That's exactly the point. Most core MS fans don't care about Kinect. Nearly every 360 gamer I know that tried it all had the same response. I was bored with it after a couple times using it.

- This is irrelevant. Do you watch every single channel on your TV? I ask, because if you want your cable package, it has to come with all those extra channels – it’s known as a “packaged deal,” and even expensive purchases such as cars, deal with them, like the need to get Sirius radio if you want the car – this isn’t a new concept.

You may not agree it with it, but it really doesn’t matter if you or your friend’s or even the core audience cares for Kinect or not. It may be a gaming console, but it is still a consumer product available to the masses at retail stores - If you don’t like it, don’t buy it, same goes for the cable and car examples. If you are implying that players are going to let the inclusion of the Kinect keep them from buying the console, then the way I see it, they didn’t really want one that bad anyway. Again, same logic applies to the other examples.

Also, you experience/opinion with Kinect 1.0 on 360, is a bit unfair. Kinect on 360 came years after the console launched. Kinect on X1, in addition to having many design improvements, was designed hand-in-and with the console, so instead of feeling just like an optional peripheral, it is more likely to feel like an extension they system.

“The HDMI input is only for those that will use it as a to control their sat or cable receivers.”

- This is false. It has already been stated that you can plug a 360 and/or a PS4 into it. Technically you could plug everything into a/v receiver, (Xbox 360, PS4, Cable Box, Wii U, PC, etc.) and plug that into your Xbox One. The HDMI-in really is an ingenious design decision.

“…This ALL in one box is mostly targeted toward NA where the TV audience is dropping off. Most of the younger crowd watch movies, sports, etc on smart phones and tablets on the go. “

- Define “younger,” because the average gamer age is 30-35. Also, the TV integration isn’t designed to replace those other mediums, but rather add convenience/functionality to the xbox. Yeah, I can watch TV on those devices, but can I play my games on the same device, and seamlessly switch between them? Downplay it all you like, the feature will get used.

(cont)
H0RSE  +   161d ago
(cont)

“There is practically next to nothing MS is offering (other than gaming) with the XBOX ONE that can't be done on smart phones, smart TV's, laptops, tablets, PC's, etc. Even voice and camera controls exist on the tech I listed.”

- There’s next to nothing that either console is offering that can’t be done on other devices. What’s your point? I don’t think most people buy a console to replace their phone, or their tablet or even their PC. They buy a console despite already owning all of these.

“MS basically is given up resources for this all in one box that most of the core audience, as with Kinect, could care less about it….The XBOX ONE has been gimped to implement these features because MS is once again chasing after a different audience other than just the core gamers.”

- Although your statement has validity, the core audience isn’t the majority, and since MS is running a business, well… I’ve been gaming for over 25 yrs. and I don’t feel shafted by MS, and don’t even say. “well, you should,” because you don’t get to tell me how I should feel. I understand that the gaming industry is a business, and I don’t expect MS or Sony or Nintendo to create products that only cater to my needs or gaming enthusiasts like myself. I’m not self righteous enough to exclaim that only the need of the core or “hardcore” players should be addressed, and everyone else need not apply.

Gaming used to be a niche medium where the core audience logic was more relevant, but not anymore. It’s gone mainstream, and as a result, the business model has changed. Even the blessed Sony isn’t offering strictly a gaming console. Hell, even a lot of the core gamers have changed, since many of them have grown up.

“At it's core, a gaming console, MS is offering less power for more money.”

- Technically, they are offering less power for the same money. The added cost is due to the features I originally mentioned. Remove them, you have an equally priced system. You cannot ignore this fact. If Sony included the PSeye, their system would be more expensive also. The fact that the PS4 is sporting more powerful hardware, is largely coincidental. Yes, the X1 costs more than the PS4, but the claim of “less power for more money” is disingenuous.
robtion  +   163d ago
@allformats: Well said. I concur.
gedden7  +   163d ago
WOW that was powerful!!!!
jmac53  +   163d ago
Bubbles to you good sir!
McScroggz  +   163d ago
Adam wants next-gen gameplay, which is admirable, but right now people are trying to make a decision on what console to get now. Sure, if you (like Adam) want to wait until there is a game or two exclusive to one console that has truly innovative gameplay then by all means do that. In the meantime though, don't downplay the significance of visual/technical superiority of one console as a valid reason to purchase said console.
aceitman  +   163d ago
maybe he got a free xboxone. lol.
cleft5  +   163d ago
Very well said. Personally, I stopped trusting anything Adam Sessler said after the God of War: Ascension comments about the player getting Trophies for beating up a woman. I played that game unpatched and turned out that the trophy you got had nothing to do with Kratos actions at all. Sessler and a lot of other liars and hypocrites in the game media has had this coming for a long time now.
ninjagoat  +   163d ago
@Allformats Bubble up for being on point.
lilbrat23  +   163d ago
I never liked him or care for his opinion he has always been in MS pocket. So unless he can be an unbiased gaming journalist he is unimportant to me.
GenericNameHere  +   163d ago
Insane jurnliz like that wacky Adam "Sony didn't give me a free PS4 so I will cry about it on Twitter by saying it will ruin my life and I'll have to get another job" Sessler saying framerate and resolution don't matter?

Bayonetta PS3 looks and plays exactly like Bayonetta 360 confirmed! Thanks, Adam Sessler, and your wise insight on vidergaemz performance!
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madpuppy  +   163d ago
Bravo, I couldn't have said it better myself! rest assured that there will be an angry tirade from Sessler about "fanboys" disparaging his "good" name and "unbiased" opinions.

I think he stepped a little too far into the Shill cesspool to avoid getting dirty anymore.
solar  +   163d ago
but all i have read here is how console gamers only care about gameplay not graphics. but all you mates seen to tout is graphics.
gamer7804  +   163d ago
if you look at what he said in his comments after e3, he is actually downplaying resolution, just saying oh sure the new consoles should be running 1080/60 resolution, but that doesn't matter, bring some new gameplay to the table as a result of these new consoles, not just better resolutions, cause that is what matters.

In his new video he is actually doing the same thing, just from a different angle, saying resolution is not what should interest people, its what new experiences do these games bring, and to keep the fanboyism out of it.
solar  +   163d ago
Sony Extremists cried when X-Play gave KZ:2 a 5/5. i dont own an Xbox, a Xbox 360 or will own a Xbox One. so dont call me a fanboy. i dont care about that console. all i know is what i read of the Extremists on this sight.
Mrgolden79  +   163d ago
What?
solar  +   163d ago
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

there is your what
solidjun5  +   163d ago
As a PC extremist, why are you here? Just go to some PC forum and whine there.
kenshiro100  +   163d ago
You so called PC elitists make PC gamers look bad. Get off your high horse.
guitarded77  +   163d ago
@ allformats

<insert smart reply>

Seriously, EPIC comment. Best thing I've ever seen on n4g. Enjoy the bubs... you earned it today.
VampHuntD  +   163d ago
This is the best comment I have ever read on N4G. Hands down. The Best. Wow.
Soc5  +   163d ago
Exactly! Extra power can also give you the ability to add more immersive and creative gameplay "experiences"
not just higher resolution. Better AI etc. Of course you need a team with the talent and creativity to achieve that, that is the most important thing. And I'm willing to bet any creative team would rather have more power rather than less to create a game that realizes their vision so yes it is important. Adam should know that rather than downplaying the issue.
Harpers_Ferry  +   163d ago
Well said.
kenshiro100  +   163d ago
Logic not making logical sense as usual.
solidjun5  +   162d ago
Does he ever? He complains about people complaining. Then he makes crazy statements.
Darrevilen  +   162d ago
I do not know how you have so much time in your hands to analyze these kinds of things. Lol but good looks
RussellGorall  +   162d ago
That is a top notch post.
mrpsychoticstalker  +   162d ago
This is too long to read. No thanks
LeCreuset  +   162d ago
But not too long to reply to. You didn't read it, but many more did. Why are so many people proud to announce they're dumbing it down?

Update: Okay. Bravo sir. You got me with the satire.
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miyamoto  +   162d ago
MS has realy dragged the igaming idustry to an all time low in so many aspects I can not count anymore.
Syntax-Error  +   162d ago
Any nerd that cares if a game has 60fps or 1080p needs a gut check. We've done well without it before, so what's the big f'n deal. You MF's need a goddamn life
madpuppy  +   162d ago
oh please! that's like saying that the Atari 2600 is a fine machine, with plenty of fun games, why waste time improving on it?

The way you think, why bother upgrading to the latest consoles at all?
devwan  +   162d ago
Don't worry madpuppy, it's simply the last line of defence for the microsoft apologist denialist. They've exhausted their entire repertoire of comebacks and retorts and all they're left with now is saying they're not playing anymore and are taking their ball home with them... they don't care for better graphics, better processing power or any technical advances, they're more than happy with a box that they can talk to in order to change tv channel or wave their arms about like it's the future and not just a ridiculous parody of "teh futur" anymore.

The unprecedented pre-order numbers show there is a real hunger for the next console generation, it's a shame Microsoft took their gamers for granted in their push to "win" the American living room.
nukeitall  +   162d ago
@allformats:

Wouldn't that suggest that we all should be gaming on PC, instead of the inferior next generation consoles?

Wouldn't it mean that since we all buy consoles, develoeprs have been targeting consoles and leaving out the awesomness of as you put it:

"The same power that lets you do those things is the same power that lets you present more immersive art assets, makes an AI routine a little smarter, makes a character animate better, or makes more physics possible."

Which I find ironic, because historically the most powerful console has never won the console war. The vast majority of gamers has always flocked to the lesser system. Which all points to that unless the difference are in magnitudes like generations, it actually makes no discernable difference.

Certainly nobody cried about power or specs when PS2 dominated the scene and the original Xbox was released with more power and a real gaming network behind it.

Or when our paltry weak PS3 and Xbox 360 can't compare to the wonders of PC specs, we don't cry, we instead look to another weak console of PS4 and Xbox One.

Which again proves my point, it isn't about the specs, but the community, developers and overall experience behind it all.
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trouble_bubble  +   162d ago
But when two rivals are selling the SAME game at the SAME price, is it not ok to ask what the differences are and why? Digital Foundry and LensofTruth have been doing it all gen without so much as a peep from Sessler. I feel like it's 2006 again and the "DVDs are just as good as BluRay" crowd has returned.
solidjun5  +   162d ago
www.g4tv.com/videos/43049/mx-v s-atv-reflex-playstation-3-revi ew/

Then
"Significant quality differences..."

Now
"It doesn't matter....experiences."
yeahokchief  +   162d ago
I dont have anything against this guy. Infact he has made some very good points in his videos when he isn't being a pussy about trophy names.

But I do not like how the media in general paints us gamers as fanboys with magazine covers like @gamer saying FIGHT or EGM saying why X console is better right on the cover and then blaming us for the controversy they themselves create.

The fact is that I believe both of these consoles are being rushed for holiday 2013 when they should have been delayed until 2014 when the networks and things like gaiki are ready along with a few more first party games in addtion to all the yearly crapola.
ThanatosDMC  +   162d ago
I still dont understand who, you're arguing with... that came out of nowhere.
PurpHerbison  +   162d ago
Never once liked Sessler, never will.
Dlacy13g  +   163d ago
It's abundantly clear if someone thinks things like gameplay are more important than resolution that person must be on the MS payroll (Nintendo apparently is getting a pass this generation). Clearly nobody looking at next gen cares/wants improvement on things like better AI, Physics or interactivity or even better user interface it just has to have that pixel count baby! /s

But seriously, I don't get the outrage for Adam on this. Over the years I have heard Adam and felt he is pretty level headed about gaming in general. I have heard many other "professional" pundits like Giant Bomb & IGN echo similar thoughts so not sure I get the directed outrage at him. Oh well... to each their own I suppose. I will continue to listen to Adam as I find him entertaining and fairly informed.
majiebeast  +   163d ago | Well said
"It's abundantly clear if someone thinks things like gameplay are more important than resolution"

Thats fine and all and gameplay does come above resolution/GFX. Now the thing is, here we have the same game running at 1080P on PS4 and only 720P on Xbox one. Thats what this is all about paying 100$ more for a less powerful system. While the media is trying to make this out to not be a big deal and decieve people. While this generation they deducted points of ps3 ports, because they are at 50P less then the 360 version. Now that its almost 180P-360P less on XBone, it suddenly doesnt matter.

Its the hypocricy of the entire thing and the games media trying to muddy the water, instead of just giving info. They have been downplaying the difference of 720P and 1080P. We are in 2013 720P was acceptable till 2008, but 90% of every TV 32 inch or bigger is 1080P now. You dont see bluray movies in 720P even though according to journalists "People wont notice the difference" Those same journalists screamed bloody murder, when a PS3 game was 50P less, even deducting points of the games score.

Its the bias some of the games media have for Microsoft and Sessler is one of them. Going from 1080P/60FPS to yeah i settle for 720P in the span of 2-3 months. He went on to say PS4+camera+PS+ is just the same as Xbox One but left out the fact you need XBox live gold for the Xbox one. He was one the apologists for the Xbone DRM and kept saying pre E3, Sony would follow. When it didnt happen at E3 he said just wait for it. Then in the new video he released didnt even dare to say 720P native, scared of pissing off the Microsoft overlords. Guess what my dvd player can play 1080P dvd's doesnt change the fact its native 480/540P.

In summary people are mad that Sessler and many others say 1080P doesnt matter now that it affects the Xbox One. Make up a bunch of BS like people wont notice the difference so why do we have 1080P if there is no difference? People are mad that Sessler and many of the "games media" dont want to tell the truth affraid that they might lose there freebies and swagbags.
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HighResHero  +   163d ago
Well said bubble.
It's funny that his efforts have actually done so much more to expose this kind of nonsense. Sessbot is starting to look like a blatant divisive fanboy at this point. He should just give up and come back to reality.
It was much more subtle before but now there is almost no (rational) argument against it. I guess as their struggle becomes more futile, their arguments become more desperate. Then they continue their sharade with more nonsense to back up their nonsense, making them look even more silly.
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tagan8tr  +   163d ago
@majiebeast yep I watched it instead of saying native 720p on xbox one he said up rezd 1080p why? just more double talk like we are that easily fooled by your ability to twist around the words.
whathappened  +   163d ago
@ Dlacy13g:

Over the years, I've known you to be biased towards the Xbox, so it makes sense for you to side with Adam. I, on the other hand, am not blinded by fanboyism and can clearly see the media trying to cover up the differences when in fact if it was the other way around, PS4 would be buried by this same media. I'm still an XBox fan but trust me bro, enough is enough. Fanboyism aside, the PS4 is more graphically capable than the Xbox one. Even I can see that. They will both have great games, but stop with the whole 'I don't see no graphical difference' crap.
FunkMacNasty  +   163d ago
@whathappened, you clearly havent been around here for long enough. Dlacy13 is far from a fanboy of any kind, and one of the few people on N4G that EVER posts anything of logic and coherence that doesn't have a hidden fanboy agenda.

You try to make yourself appear nuetral in your comment by caliming you used to be an Xbox fan but not anymore. But the first line of your comment belies the fanboy inside of you when you instantly jump at him and claim he is "biased toward Xbox"
LOGICWINS  +   163d ago
"They will both have great games, but stop with the whole 'I don't see no graphical difference"

Thats just it. There are people out there that LEGITIMATELY CAN NOT see a difference. Whether you are or were a fanboy(I don't care tbh), its clear that your closed-minded. Like Heavy above, your assuming people who are incapable of spotting graphical differences between these consoles have hidden/malicious agendas to downplay the "advantages" of the PS4.

I was one of the people who said that Battlefield 4 TO ME looks BETTER on the PS4, but did I jump down the throat of someone who thought differently? No, I didn't.

http://n4g.com/news/1382696...

What your saying essentially is that its not possible for at least one person in a world of 7 billion people to see something differently than YOU see it. And if they DO see a difference, they are either lying or have some type of agenda.
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Dlacy13g  +   163d ago
@whathappened Lets get a few things out of the way. I have my preferences on gaming machine in the current gen. Its is the Xbox 360 but I own a PS3 and put The Last of Us as game of the year with Tomb Raider taking a close 2nd for me this year...so far. Maybe my preferences skew my takes (I suppose that could be true) but I do try to and keep a level head about things in the gaming industry.

I firmly believe the PS4 has more under the hood vs Xbox One in terms of GPU power. I don't think I have ever said anything to the contrary. I also think its fairly clear that the PS4 has an edge on the development side, especially early on in their lives given what we have seen from 2 of the biggest multiplats on launch (COD & BF4).

I know many, many people in the more hardcore gaming sites are very keen to the resolution differences and feel its very important to them. If its important to you, then its important to you. I can't argue that because that would be me trying to tell you what is important to you.

I think your last statement is the one that Adam was trying to convey and honestly its how I feel as well. Both systems are going to have great games so the concern over resolution isn't as big a deal. Graphical resolution is not a barometer for what makes a great game. It can enhance it but its not the only measuring stick when it comes to game quality. So many are hung up on the resolution of COD they are all failing to discuss the framerate issues that appear to be rampant on the PS4 and PC versions so far and looks like its also be there on the Xbox One version.

As for Adam. I personally like his takes, but again we all have our own personal tastes and clearly not everyone enjoys his takes.
ma1asiah  +   163d ago
@ Darcy

You hit it in on the head:

"Clearly nobody looking at next gen cares/wants improvement on things like better AI, Physics or interactivity or even better user interface it just has to have that pixel count baby! /s"

Now if the same game on one console offered more in game content or a game mechanic not possible on the opposing console due to technical limitations, then I would get what all the fuss is about.

Also people need to learn the difference between how a game runs and how a game looks.

60fps on both consoles, this is how BF4 and COD Ghosts RUNS on both systems

1080p/ 900p PS4 and 720p X1 is how the game LOOKS on both systems.

Proof of more pixels on screen does not mean your game runs better, it simply means it looks better.

For me I would rather have better AI, physics and bigger, better play spaces as opposed to just more pixels. Yet what do I know I am just a gamer

BTW isn't cinemabland the same site that tried to say that the COD Ghost campaign was only 4 hours long. According to reviewers it sits somewhere between 8 and 10 hours in length a far cry from 4 hours. Just thought I would throw that one in there
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dethpuck  +   163d ago
This fanboy crap is getting old. It's about the total experience provided by a console so far Xbox ahead for me and that is all that matters. Not specs or resolutions. Obviously is Xbox isn't meeting my needs I can go elseware I don't need Sony fanboys telling me how to game. I love my vita, but it's dead according to everyone. In the end who cares get what you want don't let trolls decide
FunkMacNasty  +   163d ago
Welcome to N4G, where you will spend your entire time here being told what's right and what's wrong by Sony fanboys.

Being an Xbox fan around here is about as safe as being a Christian in Afghanistan.
mrpsychoticstalker  +   162d ago
Dude I totally agree with you.!!!! Why don't fanboy get this????????
XboxFun  +   163d ago
Well said Dlacy13

The games look good but what's so different about them that wasn't last gen? Everyone is on this 1080p hype train and saying that is what defines as next gen. But no one is asking what is this FPS doing differently that couldn't be done before?

Hilarious, the media is suddenly biased again. Just because they aren't completely taking a dump on the Xbox One and 720p. It is hilarious how some fans quickly turn on something when they don't get their way.

Sessler is now on the MS payroll or sold out because he's not raging against MS or the Xbox One. But I bet you people would applaud this man as a hero if he said PS4 was the God of kings.

And I love this mentality of "if it was the other way around". It was the other way around, PS3 was getting a lot of attention for it's high price and hard use of cell development. And now MS is getting it's share of bad press for their blunders and yet sony fans are still convinced MS is getting some sort of pass and if roles were reversed it would be much worse. As if the SDF hasn't been happily stating MS is getting a lot of negative press already.

Sony fanboys are mad because Sessler isn't stooping to ridiculous fanboy mentality and crapping over systems that hasn't even begun to get their walking legs stretched.
DigitalRaptor  +   163d ago | Well said
Well of course you're blindly defending a media that is covering up an aspect of the Xbone that both Microsoft and yourself would rather people not know about. Do you not think it's strange that the same gaming media ripped apart PS3 versions of games that were not even 100p different to the 360 version, with minor differences and scoring them lower because of it? The media claiming that 360 was always their go to console because of multiplats, and the Xbox fanboys backing up this ideal for almost an entire generation. And now it's "not a big deal" or "you can't tell the difference"?

This is not about whether or not it's a big deal to you as a gamer. It's about the bias and hypocrisy of the gaming media that those who have been paying attention for this entire generation will be able to spot like a sore thumb.

If you don't have a problem with this at all, and are accepting that the people who are meant to be reporting the facts objectively, and servicing gamers with the truth, rather than obfuscating reality due to "corporate diplomacy", you are a supporter of deceit, and it's no surprise you are so supportive of that company who holds the same attitude to its consumers.

Regardless of this, 1080P is a feature of the next generation of consoles, whether it suits you or not, and the fact that you're support a gaming media that is covering up this knowledge in order to downplay any kind of difference in power these consoles have is telling. It's so telling, that it's disgusting.

Did you not even read what Sessler was saying about games "needing to be 1080p/60fps" not long ago. This generation he was deducting points from the PS3 versions of games for lower frame rates and resolution. And then he turns around recently and says "it's not a problem and I can't see the difference". As a professional gaming journalist, 1) that is blatant hypocrisy, 2) not being able to detect the difference between 720p and 1080p is nothing to be proud of, and 3) downplaying factual differences is disingenuous to both gamers reading his reporting and the industry as a whole.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

This is gaming journalism in a nutshell, and you have no problem with it...
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Mrgolden79  +   163d ago
@DigitalRaptor

*slow applause*

Wow. That was probably one of the most intelligent and well said posts I have ever read on here. Bubbles to you sir, if only everyone wasnt so blind, there will be an end to all wars and starving children will find salvation.
jessupj  +   162d ago
I would tear apart your post like I always do, and you ignore every single valid point that inconveniences you like you always do, but digitalraptor has done such a great job at demolishing your comment that I don't need to add anything.

I will you this ask this though. Are we going to have to put up with your denial and downplaying this entire gen or just until a few more multiplatform games get released?
joeorc  +   162d ago
@XboxFun

look while i can understand your response to all this seemingly being brought to be overblown.

what people are pointing out is the general bias and perception manipulation by a gaming media that was to be objective and to be level with the public is as far as many can tell some media outlets or journo's has not been really consistent at being objective at all with consumer's.

this was a very good example what happens when people are really paying attention and those that choose to ignore it.

did you watch Adams video about "Sony pushed for 1080p" but fell short! than turns around and states its about the experience? but all this generation, the PS3 ver of Multi-plats was docked points because frame rates, and resolutions on the PS3 did not match up to the xbox360..

but now its not a very big deal because many gamer's cannot tell the difference?

the Question will the xboxone be docked points now vs the PS4? by the way they are talking now it does not seem to be an issue..

Do you not see that as a problem?

you cannot have it both ways, the Game centric media made it a issue all this generation, not really saying Adam was the main one doing this, what Im pointing out is the issues that was pointed out on the PS3 vs the Xbox360 in multi-plats, that to be consistent be = to be held to the same standards by the media to hold the PS4 and the XBOXONE TO BE HELD TO THE SAME STANDARDS!

the mere fact that Adam is not in his whole triad video, shows that there is a real fact to gloss over a standard they made to be an issue all generation this gen, but not for this one generation for the PS4 VS THE XBOXONE Now!

He even pointed out that Sony and Microsoft pushed for resolution, and the media just review on what both sony and Microsoft was pushing, but if he is saying that, than why would that not be an issue now? he is saying its not but yet all last generation the PS3 failed to reach what Sony was pushing for, So Microsoft was not, so they met their goal more than Sony?

Its really cherry picking to make it seem to be = reporting, but its not.
BattleTorn  +   163d ago
This is the way I view the graphical nitpicking overshadowing gameplay.

On mutlplats gameplay is the same. So really the gap in resolution is the only comparable difference on multiplats.

So, if all else is assumed equal - resolution matter A LOT!

So, unless the X1 fans can come up with other features that enrich their experience, and how maybe the UI is superior, ect - the resolution gaps will continue to overshadow everything.

So basically, resolution isn't everything - but when everything else is the same across platforms, it becomes a very big deal.
solar  +   163d ago
the outrage here is because he doesnt cater to Sony Extremists. this so called "next gen" should run games at 1080p at 60fps. that standard has been around for years on PC, and yet Sony and MS are selling console gamers a bill of goods that cant achieve that. it is "last gen" all over again.

Sony Extremists believe because Mark called it a "Supercharged PC", more like "Supercharged Tablet" (same with XB1, both using the Jaguar Tablet CPU) is a joke. you are being sold a bill of goods that neither console can live up too.

"OH! BUT KZ RUNS AT 1080P @ 60FPS IN MP!" that is because it is MP. all resources are put into the MP experience. KZ is just like any other MP game. all resources dont go into AI, textures, etc. it isnt some sort of huge accomplishment. that has been the standard for MP games for years.

moral of my wall of text above is criticize Sony, MS, Nintendo, any of your favorite developers. my favorite is Valve and i criticize everything they do. why? because i want the best of them, not a half ass attempt like you are getting with so called "next gen" consoles.
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Maxor  +   162d ago
Sony fanboys only give a damn about resolution and specs in relation to thier console war with MS. Outside of that they have zero expectations of what nextgen really means other than what their Master Cerny tells them.

Battlefield 4 at 900p on the PS4. No biggie. CoD at 1080p while the Xbox is 720p? Oh that's HUGE. Greatness awaits!!

Seriously WTF? Since when are the Sony fanboys so pro CoD? And if 1080p is such an important benchmark to them then how come they're not in an up roar over BF4 900p? In other words the 1080p benchmark only matters if it's one thier console can reach. If the PS4 doesn't have the horse power to breach that in any given game then 1080p becomes irrelevant. Classic fanboy drone logic.
madpuppy  +   162d ago
that would be fine...if it wasn't a complete about face from how the last generation was viewed (reviewed) and scored for the past 7 plus years. If review scores from all the major (and minor) reviewers knocked points off of a review score based on a difference in resolution from the same title on two different consoles, why is it now not a big deal and "nothing to be concerned about" with this new generation??
Hicken  +   162d ago
You don't get the outrage?

Adam started off saying how important 1080p/60fps was.

Now that the XB1 is shown to be behind in that aspect, it doesn't matter.

How hard is that to grasp?

He's (probably) a gamer like the rest of us, so he's free to prefer one console over another. He doesn't have to be objective across the board and never have his own opinion. But he- and you- should understand that it's going to look more than just suspicious if you change your mind on something like this when it just so happens to make your preference look not so bad. Complaining about not getting a free console- to people that don't get free consoles- from the company that IS NOT your preference only enhances the suspicions.

Clearly, though, you've decided to take the stance that, because people are making a big deal out of graphics, that's all they care about. It's obvious that that's not the case, and BattleTorn lays that out pretty perfectly.
Dlacy13g  +   162d ago
Reading BattleTorn's comment I think he makes great points especially in regard to the multiplat games.
Corpser  +   163d ago
I still don't know what the controversy is, if you want the platform for best looking multi platform games it's PC just like this gen. The same people that are counting pixels when comparing xb1 and ps4 are downplaying the difference between ps4 and PC
Hatsune-Miku  +   163d ago
pc isnt plug and play or as simple as consoles are. most console gamers dont want to deal with keyboard and mouse and prefers to be seated infront of a teli with a controller in hand. pc can be hooked up to big screen telis also but its not as convenient as consoles are.

i built a pc mainly for gaming and because i want to constantly run my new games at the best settings its very costly. some people are ok with rubbish specs but im not willing to compromise with lowering settings on pc when there are options to utilize higher specs.

pc has too many problems and can be very problematic when you cant figure out why you cant boot certain games because of software issues or the other milliom issues that can go wrong.

some people prefer pc and some prefer consoles. the best looking game anywhere now is killzone shadow fall which renders high spec pcs irrelevant unless you want to run higher resolution like 4k. most of the games that will come to the pc will be on ps4 or xbox but most of the games on those consoles wont be on pc.

i cant wait fr ps4
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webeblazing  +   163d ago
wait so your saying I cant have a wireless controller and play on the couch?

wait so your saying games on pc takes more money(for you) because you have to play highest setting and newest gfx, but can deal with playing console at lower settings? if only you could play at lower settings on pc.

only time you run into problems is if your downloading a lot of things get malwarebytes or mods messing up game.
N311V  +   163d ago
I think it's because PC doesn't partake in the same generation cycle as the consoles. For this reason PC to console comparisons are not on a level playing field. It won't be long until PC to console comparisons cease in the mainstream gaming media.

Another reason may be that although it's common knowledge that high end PCs will trump a console, there are a lot of people that simple have no interest in PC gaming. This is probably the main reason PC is relatively ignored in graphical comparisons.
Lboogieskells  +   163d ago
PCs have no place in a console war to begin with.
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Sci0n  +   163d ago
this is between the consoles man tired of pc elitist poking there heads in spouting that BS. If we wanted a PC we would buy one. I have a very nice pc capable of gaming and even have a steam account with many games on there but I prefer to play on the console and as far as consoles go for my next gen experience I want the one that will offer me the best bang for my buck and the one I can trust and also the most powerful one and no doubt that's sony's PS4.
webeblazing  +   163d ago
Bullies hate getting bullied LMAO
oh and most people are just tried of seeing people on this site bashing others to make themselves feel better.
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BG11579  +   162d ago
@webeblasing get out of this conversation and go play GTA5 on your PC.
Oh wait, you can't! ^^
InTheLab  +   163d ago
The reason for this is the fact that a decent PC still costs more than an Xbox1 and should be able to outperform both based on the money you spend.

PC has nothing to do with this other than PC fans feeling left out if relevant news.
pwnsause_returns  +   163d ago
"Attack on Sessler"

see what i did there :/
SonyNGP  +   163d ago
Er ist der Sessler und wir sind die Spieler!
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bleedsoe9mm  +   163d ago
it was a embarrassment for this website , glad they deleted it
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Hicken  +   163d ago
People making excuses for his hypocrisy and that of others is the real embarrassment.
bleedsoe9mm  +   163d ago
hysterical fanboys need to take a couple of deep breaths
in and out in and out
get your mommy to make you a hot chocolate or something
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DeadRabbits  +   163d ago
I never heard of this cowboy before until he got all this free publicity!

I am fed up with angry ranting loud Yanks! They give the rest of the decent people of the great USA a bad name and teh rest of us a headache!
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STORK  +   162d ago
Well said! Someone who finally says what everyone is thinking . Loud mouth yanks even give a aspirin a headache!they embarrass the rest of us.
MidnytRain  +   163d ago
I'm thinking the majority of people who call this guy out don't even watch him on a regular basis. He's more down-to-earth than most any journalist I've seen, and he's thorough and honest. People take one thing he says and turn them into month-long crusades.
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GmIsOnPt360  +   163d ago
spot on, hes unbias as it gets. period
tagan8tr  +   163d ago
I have watched Mr. Sessler since the days of Tech TV when he wore a back pack to the arcade and hosted a show called Extended Play and that said I find his contradictive statements anything but unbiased. Sessler said on Xplay on many occasions he leaned toward the 360. Thats not what makes him biased having an opinion makes you biased that simple. But in his deffense he has told and will tell anyone who asks his Favorite console is the Sega Dreamcast graphicaly inferior of it's generation.

1bi·as
noun \ˈbī-əs\

: a tendency to believe that some people, ideas, etc., are better than others that usually results in treating some people unfairly

: a strong interest in something or ability to do something
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pixelsword  +   162d ago
Okay, I'll bite; maybe I'm wrong and would like to be proven incorrect because I believe that he is at heart at least a person who tries to be honest:

If graphics doesn't matter to Sessler, then by now he should already have a similar rant talking about how these same cross-platform graphics don't matter between the PS3 and the 360, seeing that for the most part this gen 360 graphics were better than PS3 graphics for a number of cross-platform games.

If the made that, then he's square with me; if not, then I can't help but to lose more than just a little respect because of being a hypocrite.
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tagan8tr  +   162d ago
@pixelsword if that was to me I am in no way deffending his statements more giving my take and where I think he comes from by stements he has made prior to these.
pixelsword  +   162d ago
@tagan8tr:

No, this was an open invitation to anyone, including Sessler; I mean, I want to see if he has integrity concerning this issue; if he does, then it should be easy for any of his hardcore fans to source this one up multiple times, especially since he's a video personality. I'm not saying I'm not a fan, I just won't go as far as to say he's the *most* sincere out there, because all he had to do to shut-up the so-called "fanboys" was to merely pull-out an old clip and show that he's consistent, and that above all would quiet them.

I'm really not that concerned, but going in this next gen, I'm really looking of an honest reviewer/journalist, and right now, I have under five on my list; having this proof on his side would add him with no qualms whatsoever.
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aquamala  +   163d ago
he's biased because he's not pro-sony!
Soupaman66  +   163d ago
do you know what the word "biased" means?
bleedsoe9mm  +   163d ago
or bothered to watch the video the character assassination was being based on .
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FunkMacNasty  +   163d ago
MidnytRain,

I agree, I think Sessler is one of the more objective gaming journalists around -- oh and he's a LEGIT gaming journalist, not some chump with a blog and a loud opinion.

It's useless to say that on N4G, however, because everyone here is living in an echo chamber. On N4G, people think the whole world is owed to Sony, and if we don't agree than be damned. In the real actual world, and in less indoctrinated gaming forums, I think Sessler is typically admired for his work.

@Soupaman66 -I'm pretty sure aquamala is employing sarcasm--and doing a damn fine job of it, if I don't ay so myself!
FunkMacNasty  +   162d ago
My 20 disagrees perfectly illustrates the point of my comment. I bet if I had said "Sessler sucks and Sony rules" I woulda got 20 agrees.

Oh N4G....
iceman06  +   163d ago
I don't dislike the Ses. In fact, I DO believe that he is a very down to earth, intelligent, and even thorough journalist. I don't believe that his head needs to be hunted or that he has ruined journalism because of one video. That being said. The issue with the video is that it was a bit hypocritical. On Xplay, Sessler would provide reviews for multiplats. They were good, fair reviews. However, there was always the caveat that if you had BOTH systems...it was better for Xbox. Why??? A minor bump in resolution and performance. Now, these "minor bumps" don't matter?
See, I understand the subtext of what he was saying. Games are more than graphics. Stop with the fanboy stuff and just game. Sure...but Sess...you contributed to that very same thing that you are railing against.
joeorc  +   162d ago
@iceman06

". They were good, fair reviews. However, there was always the caveat that if you had BOTH systems...it was better for Xbox. Why??? A minor bump in resolution and performance. Now, these "minor bumps" don't matter?
See, I understand the subtext of what he was saying. Games are more than graphics. Stop with the fanboy stuff and just game. Sure...but Sess...you contributed to that very same thing that you are railing against"

this 100% agreement, you cannot have it both ways people, the very point , is he is a great guy, no doubt, but there is a loss of review standards that if you watched him in the past you would see why people are not happy with his claim now that "it does not matter now"
GmIsOnPt360  +   163d ago
Resolution wasnt king on ps2 but still most successful console over the more powerful xbox. resolution was king on ps3 and xbox 360 had better looking games due to ease of dev, resoultion is king on ps4 launch games and time will tell the rest. people who literally hang every inch of their next gen excitement on resolution of 1080p are hyporcritical joke. is bf4 1080 p on ps4? no, neither is it on xbox one people mocked ryse 900 p but then talk about ps4 being almighty at 900p for bf4. its a sliding scale to fit the argument of fan boys. buy what you like and shut up...the end
DCfan  +   163d ago
What in the world did you just say...
SnotyTheRocket  +   162d ago
Most powerful was the Gamecube, actually.
ZBlacktt  +   163d ago
Because he flip flops on his opinion. Meaning someone is calling him and saying what would it take for you to say nice things about us..... slips some cash.

One weeks it's 1080p and 60fps is expected.

The next week it's not as important as the games....
Gridloc  +   163d ago
hyp·o·crite noun \ˈhi-pə-ˌkrit\
: a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right but who behaves in a way that disagrees with those beliefs

Full Definition of HYPOCRITE

1
: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2
: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
— hypocrite adjective

Seems to be the right word to me...(edit)
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jessupj  +   162d ago
You're absolutely right.

It's amazing how people are downplaying Sessler's downplaying of a very big issue. For a long time now we've known the PS4 is significantly more powerful. I don't know why this is coming as a shock to some people, while others out right deny it.

I wonder if MS actually bribed him to downplay the huge resolution disparity, or if he's just a big MS fanboy.

I don't know which is worse.

Either way he is lying to the public when they're about to put down a lot of money for a next gen console, and that is very pathetic. I'm glad people are calling him out.

And people wonder why a lot of the gaming media is considered a joke.
FlameHawk  +   163d ago
Wow what a hypocrite, I can't believe he's such a sellout.
EffectO  +   163d ago
Replace gamers with crazies.

Those people are not gamers.
TheTwelve  +   163d ago | Well said
Compare what he says here:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

to here:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

In the second video, he's yelling and screaming to applause about how we as gamers are to expect 1080p and 60fps and we need to hold Microsoft and Sony accountable to these standards.

In the first video, he's much quieter, not in front of a crowd, and like "Oh, it's no big deal about the 720...it allllll looks the saaaaame"

Hypocrisy and big credibility drop.
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solidjun5  +   163d ago
Yep. Two contradictory videos. I guess Sessler wanted that "balance."
TheStorm  +   163d ago
Not only that (as someone who loved Adam as a journalist for years) he also has done other things to downplay the PS4 and make the X1 not look as bad. I remember for years during the PS3 ordeal that it was "too expensive" and all of a sudden when the X1 was more expensive, Adam actually tried to say that...well the price is the same because you have to pay for PS+....

When he said that it made me so mad. What about Xbox Live? That is more expensive yearly? To me he's just trying to take slight jabs at it. And when the PS4 is clearly taking leads with the media, it seems like he has thrown his hands in the air by saying things in his videos like "Don't get any of the consoles it's not worth it right now." It's like when he knew the X1 would not win, he just says like a child don't get either of them. Which he has never said that before in the two previous console cycles.

Sadly it just seems he keeps trying to downplay PS4 in slight jabs. He can't do it out right, but he seems to give the X1 a million chances, which you know he would not have for the PS4. The stuff they ripped on about Sony during G4, I thought he would rise above that, and say yea, MS really messed up this time, but he keeps getting these "interviews" with other MS employees, to give them a "chance" PR themselves out of the mess they are in.
Back-to-Back  +   162d ago
Sessler is a total fraud. Props to you for finding that video.

Bubble up to you sir.
TheTwelve  +   162d ago
@Thuway on Twitter posted it first
BallsEye  +   163d ago
Sessler is speaking the truth. Back in the day gamers didn't care much about resolutions, brands and so on, but amazing games! Me and my friends tried to get every system that was out (from late 80s till today) just to play all of the cool stuff but daaamn todays kids are so picky!!
"ps4 ftw xbox sucks all games sucks there"
"it's not 1080p my royal @ss can't play lower res"
"It's an exclusive so suck it sony/xbox camp"

Really wth is wrong with you people? Weird thing here I live there is no such fanboyism...is that mostly an american thing to boast how your stuff is better than anyone else's stuff?

Sessler is an awesome guy, stop jumping on him because he hurt your feelings about 1080p. Get a life people...
FunkMacNasty  +   163d ago
Yea, I remember those good ol' days too.. when we all wanted a Sega Genesis, AND a super Nintendo...

Everything was all gravy, until the internet came along, then all the self-righeous pricks suddenly had a huge national sounding board where they could say whatever they want without anyone punching them in the face.

"The Internet - turning nice people into assholes since 1995"

Seriously, go into a GameStop or videogame store and talk to the people there about different games and systems and exclusives... nobody is anything but nice, and when people do offer an opinion, it isn't shoved down your throat and expected that you agree. All this "fanboy" stuff... that only exists where people can be anonymous about saying rude and/or completely stupid things to each other.
OcelotRigz  +   163d ago
I know, its so sad.

All this sh*t gives us sensible gamers a bad name.
Like, jesus, reading comment sections these days and its fanboy this, 1080p that, 60fps or else im not buying it... jesus what retards!
ziggurcat  +   163d ago
... says the person who, for months on this website, trolled just about every PS4-related article, boasted about xbone's power, downplayed any PS4 title's resolution (example: constantly posting images from killzone), etc...

funny how before the cat was out of the bag, xbone 1080p 60fps was the most important thing to you fools. now that it's proven that xbone is weaker compared to PS4, none of that matters anymore, and it's "all about the gameplay" or "it all looks the same anyway."

i don't think anyone's hurt over madam sessler's obvious fanboyism, they're jumping on him for his blatant hypocrisy. the only people upset over 1080p are xbox fanboys.
RavageX  +   163d ago
I don't quite understand why I should care about this guy and what he has to say.

IDGAF...and really, you guys shouldn't either. We'd all be better off.
monkeyDzoro  +   163d ago
People are still on it.
YES, according to what he said in both video, it is kind of hypocrisy coming from him. I actually disagree with THE WAY he said "1080p doesnt really matter" in his latest vid. He should have got further, explaining why and how.
1080p/60fps matters, shouldnt be downplayed BUT in the end it comes to the experience you get while playing.
But, really get over it.
AO1JMM  +   163d ago
He has an opinion....cool, who cares? Obviously everybody on N4G does. Get over it and move on.
LeCreuset  +   162d ago
The irony of your statement...
thricetold  +   163d ago
Adam's an ms tool, always has been.
swishersweets20031  +   163d ago
He kinda deserves the backlash, because it wasnt too long ago he held like a group talk q and a and he was like "next gen has to be 60fps 1080p.. if its not its not next gen"

then he puts on a web episode the other day about.. "well, resolution doesnt matter."

i think someone got their free xbone in the mail.

yes sessler resolution doesnt matter its the experience, but when im going to the store this holiday the amount of money i spend in my pocket book is what actually matters most to me. When it is a choice of 399$ or 499$.. im going with 399$.. and just low and behold the lower priced console gives more for the money as apposed to spending more to get less for the money.
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MultiConsoleGamer  +   163d ago
Not gamers, fanboys.
MightyNoX  +   163d ago
Good. IMHO his hypocrisy has overstayed it's welcome.
Theyellowflash30  +   163d ago
Adam Sessler is a flip flopping idiot.
KHATL66  +   163d ago | Well said
This guy is such an xbox fanboy. He always favors xbox and should ONLY be reviewing xbox. After the God of War: Ascension review I banned him. If your a PS fan do yourself a favor and avoid this guy. Im so f**king tired of hearing about this douche. Why won't he just go away!!! Seriously, don't let the door hit you in your tired old ass on the way out.
OcelotRigz  +   163d ago
The things people get in a fuss over these days. Like even one guy saying "I used to respect his opinion, now i don't" hahahaha because he doesn't care about resolution like all you crazy bastards? Who act like he raped your family or something by saying this.
Making a big deal outta nothing, that's the vocal gamer these days, a bunch of moany little gobshites.
Sketchy_Galore  +   163d ago
The issue isn't really the fact that he 'doesn't care about resolution' though is it? It's more the fact that he's recorded saying 1080p is the standard we expect from next gen consoles and also recorded later (after info came to light about one console not being 1080p) that resolution is no big deal.

Don't get me wrong, I like Sessler and think he's just the victim of poor phrasing. In both clips I think he's making the same basic point, that creativity and other kinds of innovation are more important than resolution and framerate. I disagree with him to some extent in, while I think those things are more important, I think resolution is getting very important since my only problems with recent games such as GTAV or The last of us have been how grainy and jaggy things can look at points.

When Sessler said 1080p is the standard we expect it was clearly just a way of reaching his greater point that those are not the innovations we should be looking forward to and focusing on. He made a mistake assuming that 1080p would be the basic standard but beyond that I think he's making the same basic point in both videos. I think people are ignoring the context of his comments and focusing on a throwaway poorly worded phrase out of their desire to discredit him.

Still I think you're doing the same thing, ignoring the point of people's criticism out of your desire to discredit their opinion. You know the issue isn't that he 'doesn't care about resolution', it's that his two statements make him look like a hypocrite. It's that it seems as if he did care about resolution before the specs were released and suddenly claims not to care anymore. As I've said I don't think this is a fair assessment of his two statements and I don't think he's a hypocrite. I'm just saying, if you're going to argue, argue with what people are actually criticising him for and not a strawman version of their criticism.
OcelotRigz  +   163d ago
I agree with you to an extent.

I watch rev3 vids all the time, he's the only guy out there i could listen talking about games because of his lack of loyalty to a brand,his open-mindedness and just plain common sense.

My annoyance is with the overreacting and the apparent "offense" people have been regarding his comments. Like even your big reply itself and some of long ones near the top dissecting every little word and symbol and then having idiots applaud him for such a "well-said" comment because it feeds into their view. Not to mention the paranoia and brainless fanboy comments "I knew he was a fanboy all along", "What a sellout", "Im so sick of him" etc...

This is so typical of the vocal gamer on the internet, its like they're all spoiled, angry, close-minded idiots.
Its only a box we play games on, you like games on one box then you buy that box, if you can afford too then buy them both. Dont like it, dont buy it. Simple.

You know what, im a hypocrite, a big dirty evil smelly hypocrite, i complained about long comments and i wrote one myself. Oh the shame of it all.
Sketchy_Galore  +   163d ago
I agree with a lot of your response to me, as sick and unnatural as it feels to agree with people over the Internet.

A lot of us are creepy nerd obsessives with no real life but what are ya gonna do? I often find myself getting way deep into debates that I don't really care about when push comes to shove but it's just a way to pass the time and keep the brain active when I'm not able to do something fun and all the asshats I could talk to in real life get confused by two sentences that aren't about sports or the latest televised talent show.

There are people who get genuinely worked up about this stuff which is silly but even a lot of the people who seem so passionate about this stuff here, in my opinion, are just here to pass the time and interact with people who share the same hobby in some way. It's just a kind of mental sparring.
OcelotRigz  +   163d ago
Again, i agree.
I can understand getting into a debate i dont really care about, like look at us, we're debating about getting into debates, kinda.
Im as passionate as the next guy, i love gaming and spend a lot of time reading, watching and playing. I would never criticize how people spend their time. Hell, i agree and can relate to what you said about talking to people in real life, im not exactly missing out on stimulating conversations while i post here.
But most comments are just guys completely overreacting over the smallest thing and insulting anyone who disagrees, calling them fanboys the most common response. This is what irritates me.

Look at us, we consider the post, state what we agree or dont agree with and why we do, no insults, accusations, assumptions, judgments....just simple discussion. See you get something from that, a certain enjoyment, but simply insulting each other and going batshit crazy over a few dots....mental!

I like the cut of your jib, Sketchy-galore.
obelix01  +   163d ago
We went from standard definition to high definition over night with our current gen consoles. Everything immediately looked better. I think alot of people myself included want to be blown away like we were at the start of current gen. I believe though as time goes on the difference between current gen as well as between the ps4 & X1 will become more apparent. I'm getting a X1 first eventually I will get a ps4. So if the paper says the ps4 has more power & the videos prove it, well that's just wonderful. However it's not effecting my choice to get the X1. Simply put I prefer the games on X1.
Moncole  +   163d ago
In the end its all about what has the best games and how fun they are and resolution wont make them more fun. I went PC gaming because it had the most games that interest me and the cheapest price. I like indie games a lot and PC has the most indie games.
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NoWayOut  +   163d ago
Who cares. I still like Sessler. People over reacting over nothing.
BattleTorn  +   163d ago
DigitalRaptor posted this above

I thought it was very informative

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Belking  +   163d ago
Resolution does matter, especially if it affects frame rate. take the ps4 version of cod for example.
ziggurcat  +   163d ago
that's hilarious because the xbone's version has the same framerate problems... so in this case resolution isn't the problem - poorly optimized code is at fault here.
SpitFireAce85  +   163d ago
Hahahah I love your stealth troll attempt...And then ziggurcat shot you
Down...;)
kenshiro100  +   163d ago
Nice try Belking. Didn't work. :)
mochachino  +   163d ago
This Sony double standard has been going on ever since PS3. Who really thinks that if Xone and PS4 power was reversed that devs and media outlets wouldn't criticizing PS4s lack of power to high hell.
DevilishSix  +   163d ago
Most that follow this hobby most addictively, like me, know that Sessler is a Microsoft snakeoil salesmen and always has been. It wasn't as bad when he was on G4 because he had to at least appear unbiased, but since he left G4 he has been wearing his xbox fanboy ways on his sleeve. He tries to hid it but its not working anymore.

He cannot be taken as an objective game journalist.
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