Submitted by EliteGameKnight 293d ago | opinion piece

Why I'm Going With A Steam Console and Wii U This Next Gen

GameNTrain author Christopher Carpenter writes: Over the past year or so, since the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One were announced, the Console Wars have been reignited with just as much fury as before. With the blind bias that many of the individual company’s fans seem to emanate, not all are like this of course. It makes someone like me, who just cares for the greatness that this industry brings to us, in a state of annoyance over the petty arguments that these fandoms have generated. It is for these reasons that I have decided to completely skip the products offered by Sony and Microsoft out of the sake of preserving my own enjoyment of all games.

My disagreement with these consoles are of course not confined to the fans’ bias. I am also quite displeased with their business practices as of late. Between Microsoft’s policy of buying early releases and exclusivity to Sony’s recent actions of derision of their competitors, they have taken up very unprofessional tactics to appeal to their fans. It makes them appear as rich children arguing on who has more friends, dishing out their money and foul tactics to make them more popular. In my opinion, a console should be able to get exclusivity and early releases on the impressiveness of the console and the first party titles for the system instead of the size of the company’s wallet. The same applies to the their behavior, they should be able to maintain a professional manner with its rivals and focus on the enjoyment of their games instead of trying to be better then them. (Steam Console, Wii U)

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Axonometri  +   293d ago
Yea.. right now, it's a lot like Xbox365 and PS3.8.
Steven21  +   293d ago
Please elaborate. Especially on the 3.8... I can some what see the 365 but even that is being overly harsh
Axonometri  +   293d ago
Simple, they both are going to take a while before they reach potential and many of the games at launch are looking just a little better then their current gen counterparts.

A lot of general purchase people are going to have been expecting more of a visual impact in the difference.

On XboxOne, um... I have to explain?
Minato-Namikaze  +   293d ago
So basically its like any other video games system? Or has any system ever reached its full potential at launch?
kayoss  +   293d ago
Good luck playing your games on ps3.8 or xbox365. Because most us will be playing on the ps4 or x1.
Yes it will take them a year or so to reach their full potential a matter of fact it might take them all of its lifetime. But these are the only consoles that you can play next gen games.
Axonometri  +   293d ago
Not if you have a PC and a Wii U. I will have a PS4 eventually a Xbox One also... but right now a lot of the games are only slightly better visually and in most cases play exactly the same.

Love all the disagrees because I state valid true facts.
scissor_runner  +   291d ago
Even developers are stating they want one box, ps4 and xbone are the same... if it is power you seek then you have to go pc and full dx11.etc or shader model 4 or 5 with new ddr5 which is faster than gddr ram lol.

So as a gamer it is just pc and wiiu left... steam is debatable depending on if it does provide a boost. I believe mantel would have some thing to say about that.
Enemy  +   293d ago
Odd opinion. Awkward, even.
jcnba28  +   293d ago
Care to explain?
Blacktric  +   293d ago
Didn't you know? People can't have any other opinions (regarding next-gen platforms) than; "I'm definitely getting a PS4 on launch" on N4G. If you state otherwise, then your opinion is wrong and you are the cancer that is killing the industry or just a manchild. /s
Enemy  +   293d ago
No problem. Wii U is not getting much support other than Nintendo's own, and Steam "consoles" will be ridiculously overpriced.
Moncole  +   293d ago
The Wii U will have the great Nintendo games not availible anywhere else while the Steam Machine is a PC so you get all your multiplatform games on it and the thousands of PC exclusives.
lilbroRx  +   292d ago
I'm going PC/Wii U because, anything the PS4 and Xboxone can offer, I can get better on my PC.

The Wii U is the only consle that offers something that I can't get better on my PC. That is why I consider it the only true next generation console. Its actually taking gaming to another level.
gpturbo81  +   292d ago
thank you for seeing what most fools cannot
iamnsuperman  +   293d ago
The good steam boxes are going to be expensive (how they are manufactured by other people) so I hope you wallet doesn't mind
zeal0us  +   293d ago
He/she could just build their own pc and install the SteamOS on it.
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Hicken  +   292d ago
... but then that's not buying a Steam console.
Daves  +   293d ago
PS4 and a little bit of PC for me.
Clover904  +   293d ago
I'll be doing the same thing. Can't wait for the Oculus Rift.
Daves  +   293d ago
I had a go of a Rift at Eurogamer Expo.

A friend was demoing it, with a 'level' he had knocked up... there was a bit where there was a huge drop and he asked me to jump off... erm, no!! :D

It's very good.
NeoTribe  +   292d ago
Sony is set to announce there vr headset soon also. Iooks like it may be the same thing. While I don't think virtual reality is where it will need to be with the rift and sony vr headset, if it does peripheral view, ill be happy as hell.
scissor_runner  +   291d ago
All sony vr head sets currently suck. They look cool but suck pretty bad. The oculus rift gets almost all of vr right... now they just need more input options.
Steven21  +   293d ago
I'm definitely getting a steam box but I'm not expecting much out of it yet. It would have to destroy my PS4 and X1 in terms of playability, accessibility, and graphics to make it my go to console.
Rageanitus  +   293d ago
No need for steambox if your a PC gamer.
My primary gaming will be the PC, and I'll observe which machine is better for me ps or xbox 1 year from now.
WeAreLegion  +   293d ago
PS4, PC, and Wii U. I need Sony's exclusives more than anything on PC or Wii U though. Why anyone would choose a Wii U over a PS4 is beyond me.
PixelNinja  +   293d ago
Well, if someone is a diehard Nintendo fan who is in absolute love with their franchises and doesn't have any interest in Xbox or Playstation's IPs; I'm sure they would go for the WiiU.
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MrTimesplitters  +   293d ago
Cause Nintendo has the best exclusives
WeAreLegion  +   293d ago
They have some incredible games, but best exclusives? I'm not even sure that's a plausible opinion.
_QQ_  +   292d ago
@ wearelegion,how is that not a plausible opinion? Sony has ONE game in the top 30 best reviewed games of all time while guess how many Nintendo has? Mario galaxy was the highet rated exclusive of last gen, not just metacritic but any other review compilation site.

I hate to pull the meta critic card but you are the one who is trying to make an opinion a fact.
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Steelmanner  +   292d ago
No offense but there are very few exclusives that the PS4 should be boasting about. Also, there are reasons besides the games that people would go WiiU besides PS4. One being Price, its 100 dollars cheaper. Another would be innovation. To tell the truth the PS4 is simply continuing exactly what the PS3 was doing, even X1 tried to mix it up with a new kinect. My last point would be the company running it. Sony, as the article states, is kinda a jerky company. They have stooped to using slander in many occasions and that turned a lot of people off. Don't take this as me trying to tell you not to get a PS4, enjoy whatever console you get. I simply wanted to show that its not all sugar and lollipops for the PS4
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gpturbo81  +   292d ago
why anyone would pay twice the price for a ps4/vita combo to try to do what the wii u can with no lag is beyond me.
btw you must be on that tech n9ne shit huh.. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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RIP_Cell  +   293d ago
good choice
MightyNoX  +   293d ago
Long as you stay from TV box 720, you have my blessing.
Scatpants  +   293d ago
Why would you get a steam box when you could just build a better pc and hook it to your tv? I've had a PC hooked to my TV for years now so technically I already have a steam box
nirwanda  +   293d ago
You technically have a steambox if you put the os on it, but not everyone wants a big pc sat next to their tv.
Valve will buy all the parts in bulk for the steambox an negotiate some big discounts.
Nvidia know steam makes up a large part of pc gaming an won't want to lose out to amd so are likely to give valve serious discount on their cards.
And valve will probably subsidise it too to make money on software.
So you could get a better speced pc for less money with a steambox.
Scatpants  +   293d ago
Ive never seen a good prebuilt PC being cheaper than a comparable one you build yourself, but I guess its possible. Also you can buy a HTPC case and you wont have a big pc next to your tv
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LordDhampire  +   293d ago
So its pretty much a microatx pc, not a console...
Clover904  +   293d ago
Two people never built a PC.
nirwanda  +   292d ago
@scatpants you haven't seen a cheaper pre built pc because those people are profiteering from them, but steam are in a different position they want customers on the steam store and make money that way and probably sell at cost price or even subsidised them.
If valve go to nvidia and amd and say I want 2 million gpus do you think that they will pay the same as buying one.
They could even do what sony and ms do an set up a Chinese plant to bulid all the parts for them.
Scatpants  +   292d ago
I thought I read that the high end Steam box would be over 1000 but maybe not.
nirwanda  +   292d ago
The only price I have seen mentioned is an entry level model that will be $99, but to be honest I can't imagine it being much more than a media and game streaming device, but I think it show the kind of pricing they could be aiming for.
I hope it could be one of their base models rather than a souped up raspberry pi. Have a Bubble.
cyguration  +   293d ago
Now this man is smart. He has a good head on his shoulders.
_QQ_  +   292d ago
Wiiu for those unique Nintendo experiences amd steambox for everything else with better performance than consoles.
mistertwoturbo  +   293d ago
PS4/PC for me... maaaaaaaayyyyyyybbbbbeeeeeeeee Wii U
for we are many  +   293d ago
That's, I believe, is the best overall choice. You'll have the best visuals/performance for multiplat/3rd party games coupled with the new Steam controller(which looks innovative btw) and you can also expect to play Half Life 3 and next Portal/Team fortress/Left4Dead if you have Steam Box(or even PC with Steam OS, take that Windows!),
and on the other hand you'll also have Nintendo's top notch quality games as well as an innovative controller interface, Miiverse and free online. The two systems have the most unique and innovative approach to games as I see it and they are also the most controller neutral(Steam controller/other xinput controllers, Gamepad, wiimote+,pro controller), and guess what, both systems are Fully Backward Compatible with great back catalog of games.
SAYGUH  +   293d ago
Gonna agree with this guy as well, already told friends about Valve/Steam & they think it' s a joke. Don't understand when Xbox came out they got excited, but when Valve/Steam has facts, dirt cheap sales, millions upon millions of satisfied customers they still don't care
for we are many  +   292d ago
I also forgot to mention Steam's crazy sales, game bundles, early access and low game prices in general as well as Wii U's new 300$ bundles with incredible value(console+WW HD or NSMB U and Super Luigi U and subscription-free online).
AceBlazer13  +   293d ago
cause your a hipster?
_QQ_  +   292d ago
65million registerd active steam accounts, by saying steam console he pretty much means gaming pc making him part of the 65mil steam accs. how does that make him a hipster
OrangePowerz  +   293d ago
There is no steam console, it`s a small PC just like the X51 you can get from Alienware since a few years.

I stick to my PC that`s cheaper than what the steam machine PCs will be that`s already connected to my TV and the WiiU and PS4.
nirwanda  +   293d ago
A steam box will definitely be cheaper than the same speced pc, no windows to pay for, valve can buy in bulk etc.
OrangePowerz  +   293d ago
Valve doesn`t make the steam machines they will be made by other companies who will want to make profit on it like dell, HP and so on.

If i build myself a PC I don`t need to pay for Windows either and can shop for the cheapest places to get the hardware that will have a smaller mark up than if I buy a pre made system from some other place.

Also we don`t know if the steam machines will be sold only with SteamOS or not. They could sell them with dual boot and have Windows on them as well because at the start not all of the PC games will run on SteamOS as it is based on Linux. I will install the SteamOS on my PC, but thats it I see no point in the steam machine itself.
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nirwanda  +   292d ago
They are making the steam machines in the same way google make the nexus product line, other people make them and google brand and subsidise.
Who do you think is sending out the prototypes at the moment.
Steam are branding them but letting anyone make them if they like too.
Majin-vegeta  +   293d ago
Good for you.

*Gives him a cookie*.
dillhole  +   293d ago
Why has praising the Wii U suddenly come into fashion?
WeAreLegion  +   293d ago
Because it's the "uncool" thing to do...Which makes it cool.
dillhole  +   292d ago
scissor_runner  +   291d ago
Maybe because people are seeing thur the bias hate?
EXVirtual  +   293d ago
The Steambox is pointless. It's just a PC with smaller dimensions.
And have you seen the specs? Those things are going to be VERY expensive.
As for the Wii U... I love Nintendo, alright? But the Wii lacks 3rd party support and it's first party support is gapped.
'The Wii U will be the cheapest of the three traditional consoles at $300 dollars.' It's also the weakest by far.
' The Steam Machine will have a variety of models all at different power and price. ' The cheapest steam machine ain't gonna be cheap. Probably more expensive than the XBO. Plus, if you upgrade the weakest one, it'll have to be a substantial upgrade. Also, have fun playing a limited amount of exclusives on that thing.
Well, it's to be expected. PC fanboys and Nintendo fanboys trying to downplay the PS4 and XBO.
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ziggurcat  +   293d ago
Have fun playing the amazing PS4/xbone exclusives on your steam box, idiot.
arbitor365  +   293d ago
so you are choosing
1)steambox. a console that we still know next to nothing about, except that it has one of the most goofy controllers ever and will probably be pretty expensive. a device that will probably have next to no exclusives except those between it and the PC (making it a poor man's PC, essentially)

2)wiiu - a console that has no third party support, is a generation behind in graphics, is suffering and will continue to suffer from game droughts, has next to no presence in online gaming, and is two heartbeats away from being discontinued

wow. this guy has great decision making skills
SonyDroneKilla  +   293d ago
Yes arbidrone, having no third party is totally relevant when the SB will be getting all the third party support. The way you drones get so asshurt over plastic is hysterical!
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bobsmith  +   293d ago
I was thinking this too because free online
im gona get wii u and mario 3d world till steam console and see if I should get that instead of ps4
I already have a year of ps plus and can get cod ghosts for 10 dollars on ps4 though :/ by the time steam console comes out ps4 might get better exclusives too
mhunterjr  +   293d ago
Was firmly in the Xbox one camp until like... today. But I've never been so torn between options before. I really am interested in a lot of what MS Is bringing to the table (kinect2, TV, compute) and I feel like the XBOX One is the device my family would get the most use out of. It would probably never be turned off , really. Not to mention Xbox live is where the majority of my friends are, and being able to play with them is half of the enjoyment.

That said, I do play a lot of multi-platform games, and it doesn't look like they will ever be able to hold their own with even relatively cheap custom built PC's or steam boxes. graphics aren't close to being the most important thing for me, but coupled with the deals steam offers on games, that route is rather attractive. I would SORELY miss the unified online experience provided by LIVE though.

PS4 has always been something I planned on getting eventually, once the 1st party exclusives start rolling out. Same with the wii u.

Now I am thoroughly confused about where to start... I guess this is a good problem to have!
BattleAxe  +   293d ago
I agree with getting a Steam Machine, but a WiiU? Forget that mess.
mydyingparadiselost  +   293d ago
This is something I've considered doing as well, I already have a Wii U and upgrading my pc would cost around as much as getting a next gen system. Having said that, PS4 gets alot of the crazy japanese stuff and those tend to be my favorite games so I'm really just at a strange point where I don't know what to do :/
Deathdeliverer  +   293d ago
I have a steam PC. Why the hell would I get a steam console?
BattleAxe  +   293d ago
For the livingroom.
Deathdeliverer  +   293d ago
Maybe I should have been clear. My laptop does this. Hdmi ports are pretty standard. I play league of legends, Warframe, and Dota 2 amongst others on my 60" Panasonic. Living room, bedroom, your room. It's portable, powerful, has a controller (currently the PS4 one), and it isn't single purpose. Hope this clears it up. Yeah you're paying less BECAUSE it's single purpose but I just don't see it. It just hit me. I can ONLY play steam stuff on there where as on my laptop or pc I can link anything to steam and play it. League of Legends is a must so this is losing points already. Not to mention how late steam gets some games. I was playing warthunder and Warframe almost a year before they came to steam. Don't get me wrong steam is awesome but as a single purpose machine that ONLY does steam? It loses some of its draw for me. No Sim City? Ugh.
BattleAxe  +   293d ago
Ok, I didn't realize you're using a laptop. I have a PC in my office, and a PS3 in the livingroom, and since I'm not buying a PS4 or an Xbox One, I figured that I will probably get a Steam Machine.

I really just want to support what Valve is doing with Steam OS, and I love the fact that Valve is now giving both the game developers and PC gamers a real choice, rather than having to use Windows. Not to mention, I really want to try out that new controller that Steam is coming out with.
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The_Truth_24_7  +   293d ago
I feel sorry for the "author".
Misaka_x_Touma  +   293d ago
For the next two years I am stcking with Wii U, PS3 and 360. Along with 3DS and getting a Vita either early 2014 or summer.

PS4 and Xbox One has nothing that interest me.
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worldwidegaming  +   292d ago
This makes me feel like im rich or something. I plan to own everything regarding gaming. I mean why be left out when you can own it all. multiplatform games on PC and exclusives on various consoles. Good times!
MNGamer-N  +   292d ago
My wife will not allow a third console into our home. Guess your out, Steambox. PS4WiiU
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