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Submitted by whateva 265d ago | news

SONY to reveal The PS4 Processor November 13th at AMD APU13

8:30 - 9:30 a.m. (PST), Wednesday, November 13:
Dominic Mallinson, senior vice president, Software, Sony: "Inside PlayStation 4: Building the Best Place to Play" (AMD, PS4, Sony)

Credit url: techpowerup.com
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GTgamer  +   265d ago | Well said
:3 do not underestimate the power of PlayStation.
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NewMonday  +   265d ago
interested in this one..
"Dr. Chien-Ping Lu, senior director, Mediatek USA: "How Many Cores Will We Need?""

lets see the truth about "diminishing returns"
HelpfulGamer  +   265d ago
I want a sexy PS4 tech Demo!
badboy776  +   265d ago
2 Weeks!!!!!!!!!
kneon  +   265d ago
For video games there should be no diminishing returns for added cores, within reason of course.

Video games are well suited to parallelization, if they fail to make proper use of available cores it's the developers fault. Too many developers are stuck in this single threaded mentality, it needs to be designed in from the beginning
piroh  +   265d ago
whatever they reveal, they simply CAN´T dissapoint even if they want. after all it´s SONY. even google can´t find anything negative about PS4
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johndoe11211  +   265d ago
Oh boy, could you imagine what the misterxmedia site is going to be like for the next 9 days?? LOL.
miyamoto  +   265d ago
the PS4 team can honestly give us true info with a straight face while Wii U and Xbox One team hide the truth from the gamers
MiHX2  +   265d ago
OCTA CORE!!!
Anarki  +   264d ago
I thought we knew what processor it had? It says on the Sony website, or am I missing something here?

http://uk.playstation.com/p...

CPU: low power x86-64 AMD "Jaguar", 8 cores
JackVagina  +   264d ago
@Anarki

We know what it is but im guessing AMD is going to go very in depth about it.
Withdreday  +   264d ago
PS4 Processor: 8 cores, 4.2 Ghz with a powerful GPU.

I said it once and I'll say it again...Xbox DONE!!!
The_Ozymandias  +   265d ago
Users lose all sense of reality, and enter another world.
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USMC43  +   265d ago
BEYOND!!
neoMAXMLC  +   265d ago
Live in your world. Play in ours.
KingofGambling  +   265d ago
S.A.P.A
sAVAge_bEaST  +   265d ago
They will also reval dGPU from Volcanic Island series, MisterX thought was in the Xbone.. /s
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oODEADPOOLOo  +   265d ago
Xbone: your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes, or given you clairvoyance enough to find the rebels hidden fortres... **chokes**

**720/900,1080p-COD,BF4**

PS4: I find your lack of faith disturbing....
Ripsta7th   265d ago | Immature | show
TENTONGUN  +   264d ago
@ripsta7th

better than whoring out your ass to microsofts huge cock.
tagan8tr  +   264d ago
lol with disagrees its a joke you mean you disagree with a joke lighten up people
Pillsbury1  +   265d ago
Beyond!
XisThatKid  +   265d ago
WHAT?! Yea you Sonyboys keep worrying about CPUs that's irrelevant It's all about dat ClOuDZz
tagan8tr  +   264d ago
LOL if cloud was that good don't you think PC games would have taken advantage of it or do you actually think the company behind such hits as Windows Me, Vista and Windows 8 were the first to realize the potential of the cloud. If cloud was great, Google a company that knows a thing or two about such things would have made Chrome laptops with a screen a keyboard WiFi/ethernet and let cloud do the rest.

This cloud stuff is solid as an actual cloud..
xZeratul-DTM  +   264d ago
@tagan8tr pretty sure he's being sarcastic dude.
XisThatKid  +   264d ago
@tagan8tr
This is a great point though all sarcasm aside why isn't this being used in our PC communities
tagan8tr  +   264d ago
@xZeratul-DTM, I figured that but I saw a chance to make a point of sumthin that I been thinking about thats why I started it out LOL :) see smiley no hate.
xZeratul-DTM  +   261d ago
@Tag Haha, fair point, bubbles for you.
The xbox reveal will be running on pc in secret..
Xwow2008  +   265d ago
Finally :)
whateva  +   265d ago
I fixed everything why hasn't this been approved?
it's pretty big news
whateva  +   265d ago
I have now split the stories up
I posted the AMD APU story by it's self because the PS4 News is deserve it's on story & shouldn't be hidden in the AMD APU story that says nothing about it in the title. so now it's 2 stories.
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My_precious  +   265d ago
should we call it "the cyber porn incoming"
konnerbllb  +   265d ago
Tech porn
MRMagoo123  +   265d ago
Well that shall be very interesting.
MasterCornholio  +   265d ago
I wonder what would happen if they announced the clock speed of the CPU to be 2GHzs.

Anyways it'll be a blast to see more info on the PS4s APU.

Nexus 7 2013
pacostacos  +   265d ago
a lot of consoles would overheat prob.
MRMagoo123  +   265d ago
from 2ghz lmfao you could cool a chip at that hz with a paper hand fan
Omegasyde  +   265d ago
^^^ He/she is right plus look at all the ventilation on the console.

Both MS and Sony did learn though that there is now safe guards and advanced sensors in form of reducing overheating.

I rather have my ps4/xb1 "magically" turn off for a few minutes instead of having to pay for a repair.
MasterCornholio  +   265d ago
This is Sony that we are talking about not Microsoft.

Remember all the overheating issues the 360 suffered at launch?

Nexus 7 2013
stuna1  +   265d ago
Here let me fix that for you! " a lot of Fanboys will overheat if true!"
joeorc  +   265d ago
"a lot of consoles would overheat prob."

that may not be the case if the 3D Stacked SOC TSV chipset it has more than capable active and passive heat dissipation.

Sony, has invested heavy into 3D stacked SOC TSV production silicon. both the PS3 and the PSVita already have the chips inside of the systems produced with such measures. This was several years of investment in the billions. over time
xZeratul-DTM  +   264d ago
@MRMagoo123 - bubbles for making my day hahaha
NarooN  +   265d ago
2 Ghz is plausible, but Jaguar as a uarch wasn't meant to clock very high like Piledriver or anything. Especially in this implementation, they went for higher parallelization while keeping a reasonable thermal envelope so the console boxes don't explode half-way through your game session.
Withdreday  +   264d ago
It's 20 Ghz!
Real_gamer  +   265d ago
Is that Sony secret sauce can u give us ingredients ? Is it dolmio tomato sauce , meatball , oil and onion ?
esemce  +   265d ago
There is no reason why the clockspeeds cannot be 2+ ghz. I.m hoping for 2.2ghz but will probably be 1.8-2.0.

Yeah Sony have nothing to hide tech wise, my only gripe is the that the PS4 has no rear USB's and that it does not come with a free vertical stand lol.
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KUV1977  +   264d ago
I never got why they woudln't include rear-USB but then go on and sell dongles for Buzz and Singstar. So ugly having the cables on the front. They even had back-USB on the early-PS3-images before release...
Felonycarclub8  +   265d ago
I gotta stock up on some popcorn for November 13th cause it's going to get interesting here at n4g :-)
LordDhampire  +   265d ago
it will be the dark ages for n4g
Koyes  +   265d ago
Lucky Americans! Us Brits needs to wait till the 29th :'(
ANIALATOR136  +   265d ago
4 weeks to go mate hang in there :)
Real_gamer  +   265d ago
I don't have to wait I'll get my console at 22nd guess wat it's Xbox one
Koyes  +   265d ago
@Real_gamer

Enjoy! :) I will miss my Forza for a few years, till I pick up an X1
esemce  +   265d ago
At least we get to see the reveiws etc before hand. Still annoying having to wait 2 extra weeks though.
JLT-Sandwitch  +   264d ago
Same here in Australia. Brought a few new ps3 games last night to get me through till then :p
xKugo  +   265d ago
I would surmise that's it's probably Southern-Island based with a mixture of Kaveri features, alongside a dedicated sound chip and upscaler, most likely clocked somewhere between 1.8 and 2.0Ghz. Knowing Sony and how they continuously impress me with their tech, I wouldn't be surprised if they managed to fit a 2.0 Ghz processor in that small case without overheating issues. But, that's just my guess...
mkis007  +   265d ago
Why does it have to be so far away!!
EXVirtual  +   265d ago
More info about the PS4's power? Interesting. Interesting indeed *strokes skin chin'.
What if they fit in a 2.0 Ghz processor... I'm phoaming at the mouth just thinking about it.
Anyway, I better prepare for the 13th and 14th.
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Maxor  +   265d ago
The actual details of the PS4 processor is interesting but ultimately irrelevant. In the inability to hit 1080p 60fps in all games speak volumes. The power to push all nextgen games with ease simply isn't there. Instead what we get is just enough rendering juice to hit 1080p, but sacrifices must be made for performance.
stuna1  +   265d ago
But there is nothing stating that they are really pushing the PS4 to the point that it's simply not possible to achieve 1080p / 60fps! As we all well know developer are always saying how they are maxing out a console, then turn around later to say that they are using 40 to 50% of the power!

IMO it's far to early to believe either machine has shown a fraction of what they have to offer! And although even before the generation has even started, the 3rd party developers are already showing us some nice returns on what to expect concerning the PS4, it will ultimately come down to the talent of Sony's in-house studios/ 1st party to really push the envelope and show everybody what the PS4 is truly capable of! Just like this generation.
trancefreak  +   264d ago
-Well said stuna1; great post! We have new consoles with developers learning how to use them. Most Developers ATM are cramming to bring cross gen multiplats into this first wave of games with deadlines obviously. They will only become more stunning in time especially without a new console cycle at the launch of a new generation

-History always shows that the beginning of every console cycle that there's a huge difference in gaming detail from the beginning to the end of the consoles life.

-Even into the second, third wave of games developers work their way threw the initial learning curve. Game designing optimization and coding becomes much more efficient during the consoles life span.

-Without being technical (which I am not gaming related) on the subject it is a fact, and I can see the PS4 games only to become technically better and hopefully exciting as ever with better tech.

-We will look back in the next few years and say oh my; look how much farther the games quality and experiences have become.

-Not all games are master pieces like with anything in entertainment but they sure will be pretty.
Tony-Red-Grave  +   264d ago
A good example of beginning vs end gen games. Look at Resistence: Fall of Man. Back when it came out it was amazing! now it looks completely outdated. MGS4-MGS5. GTAIV-GTAV.

These games became ALOT bigger and had alot more content near the end then their counterparts did in the beginning.
Xtremist  +   265d ago
My prediction:

If clocked at 1.8 Ghz then the power of the PS4 CPU will be 100 Gflops + Compute Power equivalent to the 50% of the GPU's raw power (Ideal/Maxed out).
In other words the 90% of the power in PS4 CPU will be of Heterogeneous nature.
jhoward585  +   265d ago
Seeing how Drive club AI was very aggressive on the last few game play footage gives the feeling that the PS4's CPU clock speed is somewhere between 2GHZ to 2.5 GHZ.
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Kayant  +   265d ago
No.

Jaguar cores only go between 1.6Ghz - 2.0Ghz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
jhoward585  +   265d ago
That may very well be true for the laptop/mobile market. But for a gaming console it can be over clocked a bit if the company wishes.

Lately Ive noticing Sony has been going above and beyond our expectation...SONY are always full of surprises.

Can't wait for the reveal!
neoandrew  +   265d ago
NO

Up to 2.75 Ghz according to PS4 FCC document.
Kayant  +   265d ago
@neoandrew

No.

Highest frequency in the system doesn't mean it's the CPU. It's mostly likely the GDDR5 ram. --- > http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

http://www.engadget.com/gal...

If the CPU was clocked that high then the PS4 case will need to be cooler or it will run hot.
Qrphe  +   265d ago
>No
>NO
>No

No
Rageanitus  +   265d ago
Since when does "agreesive AI" have direct correlation with the speed of the CPU?
Angels3785  +   265d ago
Things like AI and physics (the "brains" or calculations of them) are run by the cpu.
Rageanitus  +   265d ago
Yah but you can stil have good AI or bad AI if you have an super CPU it depends on the developer!
donnieboy  +   265d ago
What are you talking about? Can't clock that high...
gamertk421  +   265d ago
Was that mockup done by missSmedia?
neoandrew  +   265d ago
FCC PS4 shows 2.75 GHz MAX for cpu, so i really hope it will be 2GHz with some kind of turbo in the console.
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jhoward585  +   265d ago
@neoandrew

Ok, the PS4's FCC document states that the highest CPU clock speed the ps4 can have is 2.75 GHz. I get that although I haven't read the FCC document.

But Logically speaking, I don't think Sony would ever use 2.75 GHz for the PS4 b/c the PS4 doesn't
have much breathing space.

Anything slightly below 2.75 GHZ would be a good sweet spot to avoid over heating issues/PROD.
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neocores  +   265d ago
@jhoward585 breathing room have you not seen the back of a ps4
CryofSilence  +   265d ago
Normal operating frequency will be in between 1.6 and 2.0 GHz, but AMD likely has a technology like Intel's turbo boost.
neoandrew  +   265d ago
I don't think either sony will use 2,75 ghz ever, hence 2 ghz would be a perfect balance for ps4, i really hope it won't be less than 2ghz.
lsujester  +   264d ago
No, it showed 2.75 GHz as the highest clock for the system, it didn't specify what was clocked that high. FCC documents don't list what is possible, they list what IS. Meaning, something is definitely clocked that high, but it's not the CPU. In actuality, it's the RAM. 2.75GHz times 2 (GDDR=Graphics Double Data Rate) equals the 5.5GHz speed that it is.
jhoward585  +   265d ago
@neoandrew

EDIT:

I meant to say anything between 2ghz - 2.5ghz would be a good sweet spot to avoid over heating issues/PROD.
Hicken  +   265d ago
I think that was really his point. The CPU can be put above 2Ghz and be alright. It's not likely to go all the way up to 2.75, but I think it'll probably be at or above 2.
sigfredod  +   265d ago
Hmm interesting why announce this on a public event? possible something to brag about that we don´t know yet?
RIP_Cell  +   265d ago
lol it's so powerful games are not all in 1080p
mushroomwig  +   265d ago
That's up to the developers, the system is obviously capable of 1080p 60FPS because it can do it.
HighResHero  +   265d ago
Judging by just the specs so far and unique artchitecture, it should be capable of 1080p in most games easily
I hope for his/her sake he's just trolling.
Probably the type that's puzzled by what anyone could see in a game that's under 1080p.
Just another day on n4g.
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Rageanitus  +   265d ago
yes it depends on the developers, but as years pass there will be bottlenecks.

Iwould not want a 1080P pong

60FPS at 1080 is quite difficult to achieve depending on the game and graphics on the screen.
Brix90  +   264d ago
I'm confused isn't the only PS4 game that doesn't run 1080p BF4 and if so you are incorrect then in saying games rather than game.
assdan  +   265d ago
I would laugh so hard if the clocked the CPU on megahz higher than the xbox one's
stuna1  +   264d ago
Then get ready to laugh really hard, because it's definitely a possibility! Something that Sony might have under raps is that they also have the ability to over-clock their CPU, but they will also have the ability to do so with software updates.
assdan  +   264d ago
I can only hope. I guess I don't remember Sony's clock ever being officially announced, and I just assumed everyone knew what was right. But now seeing this, I really hope that the CPU is clocked higher.
oODEADPOOLOo  +   265d ago
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jhoward585  +   265d ago
@neocores

@jhoward585 breathing room have you not seen the back of a ps4
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In fact i have seen the back of a PS4 from videos...Very impressive indeed!

The opening at the back of the PS4 is a very good design, however, you also have to take in account that the PS4 GPU/CPU are on the same die.

Heat will be shared between the cpu/gpu.
cyclindk  +   265d ago
Watch it be a couple of Cell Juniors after all :)

http://fc03.deviantart.net/...
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Yankeesfan239  +   265d ago
Well this gen sony has the most power under the hood i wonder if the next gen in like 5 or so years who will be on top with raw horsepower also I wonder if any of the systems will be able to produce more powerful units during there life cycle i remember epic games mentioned they wished the 360 would build a more powerful system which they could of called it the 360.2 or something like that and have people trade in there old systems and like $100 for a newer version.

Is raw power what most of you are after when you want to go strictly sony? what will happen if next gen microsoft has the most power under the xbox two? then will you head to xbox camp ? I know most people are after power which is why so many love the ps3 since it has the most power out of the 360 and ps3

I own all 3 systems PS$ XB1 and WIIu

PS4: BronxBombers239
XB1: Yankeesfan239
Wiiu: Yankeesfan239
DarkHeroZX  +   265d ago
Actually most people went after the ps3 for the same reason they bought the ps2 and the ps1. Brand name and games. In raw horse power the 360 and ps3 where on more equal terms, while getting the best yields favored the 360. However what did it for the ps3 was the bounty of beautiful and fun 1st/2nd party games which made it more appealing. While the ps4 does win in raw power no one is going to stand behind it if it doesn't deliver the games.
Yankeesfan239  +   264d ago
oh yeah most definitely software sells the hardware but actually the ps3 is a little bit better than the 360 starting with the blu ray drive compared to 360 standard dvd's so thats a plus and it has a better processor and ram the 360 has a slight graphics card edge but this gen the answer is more obvious comparing ps4 and xb1

http://www.ign.com/articles...
Withdreday  +   264d ago
This will be the Last Xbox. You can mark it!
Yankeesfan239  +   264d ago
I doubt it would be the last one microsoft is a multi billion dollar company they won't let themselves fail they have so much money that they could offer the game companies exclusive rights to a lot of big name ip's or developers but yeah i wish it was more gaming then entertainment thats where they messed uo in advertising it from the beginning
Withdreday  +   264d ago
But you can say the same thing about Zune players and look how that turned out.

If the Xbone's a money loser like the first Xbox was, then there's a solid chance they'll call it quits. Hell even that leaked web doc said that It could be the last Xbox, so never say never.
Yankeesfan239  +   263d ago
Yeah i remember the zines lol and I didn't know they lost money on the xbox 1 back in 01 and wheres the leaked doc that said the xbox one might be the last one
KingOdin89  +   265d ago
What if there is no processor...just a nimbus cloud inside the system...the Flying Nimbus.
LOL_WUT  +   265d ago
Good to see Sony showing most the specs now thats showing confidence in your system. Others should take notes...;)
cell989  +   265d ago
cant wait, I bet there is one more bombshell to drop in regards to the PS4's specs
Playstationologist  +   265d ago
OMG I'm so excite I just turned into a teenage girl
MRMagoo123  +   264d ago
hello *wink wink* lol
one2thr  +   265d ago
Hopefully they'll share a few more details about the "secondary lower powered" processor thats in there as well.

Things like; How many cores it has, its clock speed, and is it on a setup similar to "big.LITTLE processing".
Metfanant  +   265d ago
so finally we will get the last piece of the console hardware puzzle... i have a gut feeling Sony has a small surprise in store for everyone
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Kos-Mos  +   265d ago
I do like Playstation, and have all their consoles. Some of the best games ever made is on a Sony console: Xenogears, Xenosaga, Metal Gear Solid.
But do people on n4g know that Sony is a japanese company?
Is that okay with you?

For some people I know my comment is like when you fall in love with a beautiful girl and the night is finally ready for some hot bedstories, and you realize she has the same genitalias as you.

Bless me for not being patriotic.
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Metfanant  +   264d ago
wtf does this have to do with Patriotism??...are you hinting that i should buy the more expensive, inferior console because it is made by an American company?...

I would argue that is just ethnocentrism, not patriotism...
Withdreday  +   264d ago
"wtf does this have to do with Patriotism???"

That's what they call "grasping for straws"...

He could come up with no better reason people should buy the Xbox One.
Kos-Mos  +   264d ago
What? No, which part of you body did you pull that conclusion?

I`m stating a fact, that is all.

I will never buy a microsoft product.
Does that hinder me to ask questions about the fanboyism on this site?
razrye  +   264d ago
So is that mentality meant to work with the rest of the world?
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