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Hideki Kamiya to Those Asking About Bayonetta 2′s Wii U Exclusivity: “F*** Off”

Looking forward to Bayonetta 2? You may want to think twice before you ask Platinum Studios’, Hideki Kamiya, about its exlusivity to the Wii U. (Bayonetta 2, Hideki Kamiya, Wii U)

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Snookies12  +   755d ago
Didn't he say the same thing to people asking about her in Smash Bros.? This guy seems like a bundle of joy lol.
TransientDreamer  +   755d ago
Great, great people skills.
darthv72  +   755d ago
in relation to the title...it would have been funny if the pic was him flipping the bird instead of thumbs up.
TransientDreamer  +   755d ago

Trust me when I tell you I looked for one lol.
Lord_Sloth  +   755d ago
This seems to be a very common response from him...
SilentNegotiator  +   755d ago
"Hey, we would like to play your game, too"
"F*ck off!!"

Real nice response.
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guitarded77  +   755d ago
Guy: "So is Bayonetta 2 still exclusive to Wii U?"

Kamiya: "F#@K OFF!!!"

Guy: "So you're saying it's possible?"
PopRocks359  +   755d ago
If some shmuck knocked on your door everyday asking if you take a crap on a golden toilet, I'd imagine you would get annoyed and tell him to "**** off" too.
SilentNegotiator  +   755d ago
"If some shmuck knocked on your door everyday asking if you take a crap on a golden toilet"

Perfect analogy.

ShinMaster  +   754d ago
That made no sense, PopRocks
PopRocks359  +   754d ago
How about you guys use some critical thinking skills and understand that my analogy was to say people asking you the same thing over and over is irritating? In Kamiya's case, he's probably been getting it since Bayonetta 2's announcement. Simple.
SilentNegotiator  +   754d ago
Several gamers asking if a game is coming to a system they have in the form of an easy to ignore tweet is not the same as one person knocking on your front door every day to ask you a question straight from a mad lib.

That is a stupid analogy. He had no cause to freak out the way he did.
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PopRocks359  +   754d ago
You're a gamer on the internet, right? You keep yourself well informed, yes? What is stopping people from doing a simple google search on the issue and not provoking the guy? Problem solved without annoying Kamiya and without earning one of said tweets.

Kamiya's been at this longer than the issue at hand. The only thing stupid here is people taking offense to his otherwise regular behavior. You have a problem? Don't follow his twitter. If this was about a Playstation 4 being ported to Wii U, you would be applauding Kamiya's behavior, I'm sure. The analogy is fine; your stubbornness and apparently resumed rudeness is not.

Edit: And while we're at it, correct your terminology; Kamiya did not "freak out." This is one of his normal responses to tweets of this nature. Where exactly were any of you over the past year? These tweets are pretty normal. He's responding to random people on the internet and quite clearly does not care what anyone thinks of him, least of all yourself. So don't try to make this into some sort of Phil Fish meltdown. It's not nearly on the same spectrum.
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Lou-Cipher  +   754d ago
When nobody goes out to by a Wii U to play Bayonetta 2. That is all your previous Bayonetta 1 fans saying F#*k YOU!!!
SilentNegotiator  +   754d ago
"You're a gamer on the internet, right? You keep yourself well informed, yes? What is stopping people from doing a simple google search on the issue and not provoking the guy?"

People want to ask the man himself. Nothing horrible about that. In fact, now that he has blown his top and that has been reported across the net, less people will probably bother asking because the search results would show this very definitive, angry twitter post.

"You have a problem? Don't follow his twitter. If this was about a Playstation 4 being ported to Wii U, you would be applauding Kamiya's behavior, I'm sure"

Another completely moronic comparison. He told people interested in his game to "f*** off" and my reaction to that doesn't have anything to do with how I would react to it getting ported. Furthermore, I didn't care for Bayonetta 1, but a lot of people are passionate about the game and simply want to play it on their system of choice.
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-Foxtrot  +   755d ago
When the game does poorly in sales BECAUSE of it being an exclusive

Kamiya - "F*** off"
Fanboyssuck27  +   755d ago
When the game does a lot better than all these Nintendo haters think, then u can **** off x2.
truechainz  +   755d ago
No need to highlight the because. I know it probably won't help sales, but the original didn't do that well on 2 consoles with large install bases.
XboxFun  +   755d ago
Nobody else wanted it so I agree with Hideki. And from what I remember Bayonetta 1 didn't do so hot in sales so what difference does being exclusive have now?

What is wrong with gamers nowadays?

They scream for exclusives but then cry when those exclusives don't appear on their system of choice. This is why every industry head should take the internet with a grain of salt because 95% of people are just here to cry and hate.
Concertoine  +   755d ago
This is platinum games were talking about.
The company that has never once met sales expectations.
The company that has trouble selling a game unless metal gear is in the title.
But also the company that will stop at nothing to make a creative, complex game regardless of sales, even to their detriment.
Bayonetta 2 wouldnt sell no matter what system it was on.
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-Foxtrot  +   755d ago

It's a joke...chill your bean
deafdani  +   755d ago
The first Bayonetta tanked, and it was available on Xbox 360 and PS3.

Then nobody wanted to publish Bayonetta 2, until Nintendo stepped up to the plate.

Not saying you aren't right, Bayonetta 2 may end up selling poorly anyway. But if it wasn't a Nintendo exclusive, it wouldn't even exist to begin with.
SilentNegotiator  +   755d ago
"Nobody else wanted it so I agree with Hideki. And from what I remember Bayonetta 1 didn't do so hot in sales so what difference does being exclusive have now?"

I'll try to make this easy for you; a game that did poorly on two very well selling systems will not do better on one very poorly selling system. That's the obvious difference.
tehpees3  +   755d ago
@ SilentNegotiator

We all know the game won't perform well in sales. That is why only Nintendo want it. The reason Kamiya is annoyed is because they have repeated the answer time and again and people ignore it.

It might sell better on PS3 and 360 but Sega think its a flop. Because of that they aren't doing it. They know it will sell more there but they don't see any gain in this franchise so they dropped it and never looked back.

As far as publishers are concerned there is no loss with this franchise because it doesn't meet the financial expectations. Publishers don't care where it sells most because it didn't sell enough in the first place.

Its sadder for Platinum because they make great games and they aren't meeting their partner's expectations so they can't get future games they want out.
SilentNegotiator  +   755d ago

I'm aware that they're doing it because Nintendo funded it after underwhelming sales, but SEGA really should have realized that 1) the sequel is bound to do better because the series now has a history with very positive feedback (it would help them exponentially more if they released it to the same group of people) and 2) The Nintendo deal won't benefit them for long if the sales are even WORSE than before.

The fact this game wouldn't exist if not for Nintendo is entirely thanks to a lack of logic from SEGA.

......so anyway, the only point I was making was a response to XboxFun to tell him the obvious, OBVIOUS difference.
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tehpees3  +   755d ago
I fully agree 2 million sales for Bayonetta was great. During the PS2 era that would have been immense. The thing is Sega would have been looking at a bigger picture. They gave Platinum four chances to go places and nothing stuck to the wall. The first was Madworld which opened to poor sales so they blamed Wii. But take a look at the sequel (Anarchy Reigns) and you'll see it sold just as badly on PS3 and 360 so this clearly wasn't a demographic thing.

Bayonetta met strong sales but Vanquish also flopped. Four flops in a row meant Sega saw Platinum's games appealing to a niche audience and they pulled the plug.

As far as Sega is concerned its too risky to be building on the one brand that met very strong sales when said game still didn't meet their expectations. They believe Platinum's games appeal to a niche market and are too costly to continue. It wasn't specifically Bayonetta's flop. Vanquish is another example of a game that definitely should have done better then it did.
R00bot  +   755d ago
It doesn't really matter for him how the game goes, Nintendo funded it anyway.
dredgewalker  +   755d ago
I don't like his response but Bayonetta's exclusivity is not his fault. If Nintendo didn't fund the game then there wouldn't have been a sequel in the first place.
-Foxtrot  +   755d ago
The problem is some gamers and especially Kamiya are thinking Nintendo did it out of the goodness of their hearts...they didn't. They needed third party software, they saw this game needed picking up, they picked it up for that reason and to try and show people they are interested in third party software. Not because they actually wanted to support Platinum or Kamiya, if they did they would of given them a bigger budget to work with

At the end of the day it was just a business decision.

I'll bet my life on the fact Nintendo won't fund Bayonetta 3

I've said before after how good their relationship with Konami after Metal Gear Rising why didn't they ask them for help. Kamiya has talked about Sony and Microsoft but what about other publishers
Chrischi1988  +   755d ago
You betting your life on a stupid matter like this? Dont take it personal, but do you even still have a life?
Concertoine  +   755d ago
Why else would nintendo buy a mediocre selling game? They needed 3rd party stuff, but they knew they needed unique 3rd party stuff, and bayonetta is a very niche game with a dedicated fanbase willing to follow the sequel on to wii u. You honestly thought they bought this game because it would be financially successful? Maybe profitable, hopefully so, but if they were after money they wouldve bought an exclusive assassin'd creed or another big name, not bayonetta of all games xD
And what do you mean a bigger budget?! This game looks amazing, 1090p native and 60 fps. Platinum has said working under nintendo is intimidating because they are such perfectionists.
Im betting bayonetta 3 wont come out because Platinum SAID they wouldnt make it.
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triforce79  +   755d ago
I know it will sell over a million easy mark my words those who dissagree are wrong the wiiu has 3 million sellers now with an install base of just 4/5 million so middle of next year I'm guessing with MK8,X,Project CARS,ect ect will help towards great sales...
NihonjinChick  +   755d ago
Foxrot, how do you know this budget wasn't big enough? Bayonetta isn't the type of game that needs millions upon millions to be thrown at it.
-Foxtrot  +   755d ago

lol...really? It's just a saying, you did do English at school right?


"Why else would nintendo buy a mediocre selling game? They needed 3rd party stuff

You've just answered your own question

"with a dedicated fanbase willing to follow the sequel on to wii u."

I really doubt that many Bayonetta 2 fans will buy a Wii U JUST for that game. I love Bayonetta but I'm not just going to get a Wii U for it. I'd wait untill Smash Bros and Mario Kart come out or the next Zelda

"Platinum has said working under nintendo is intimidating because they are such perfectionists."

The thing about Nintendo is they are perfectionists but they wouldn't go the extra mile to make their games even better/longer. They get to the point where they've finished it and go "DONE".

"Im betting bayonetta 3 wont come out because Platinum SAID they wouldnt make it."

If it does well then they would do a sequel. Since they know it's most likely not going to sell as well, then they know Nintendo won't fund it. So that's why they probably said it because they know it won't be made but if Nintendo were so confident in them they would offer to fund it regardless of sales.
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PopRocks359  +   755d ago
"At the end of the day it was just a business decision."

Well aren't you just the media genius of the day. Thanks for figuring it out for the rest of us. *slow clap*

No crap it was a business decision. The point is if you're going to ask anyone about it, you should probably ask Sega. Because thanks to Nintendo and Kamiya, for whatever the reason might be, that sequel is now happening and it's exclusive on Wii U. Period.

As for your statements about who is going to fund what, please tell me, do you have any insight on the stock exchange? I was thinking of making investments and I think your crystal ball may come in handy.
Concertoine  +   755d ago
When you get 100's of people asking the same shit day after day, when he has a twitlog he constantly refers to i imagine it gets annoying,
stuna1  +   755d ago
No he's just mad because he just realized that he has made a major Boo Boo, by making Bayonetta 2 exclusive. There is going to be a lot of Boo Boo'ing going on in the coming months!
brish  +   755d ago
- Hideki Kamiya

Yeah!!! How dare people on other platforms show an interest in the game and not magically know that nintendo paid for the development and nintendo is forcing it to be an exclusive!

Hmm, come to think of it having a large number of people from other platforms wanting to play the game should be very flattering.

Good thing he didn't call them idiots because he would make himself look like an idiot

... oh wait.
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live2play  +   755d ago
"and not magically know that Nintendo paid"
...its not "magic" its all over the web, it was all over the web before and he even said it himself REPEATEDLY on his account how Nintendo is publishing... So who's the real idiot?

"Nintendo is forcing it to be exclusive"
I'm not even going to try and make you understand this part
brish  +   755d ago
"...its not "magic" its all over the web, it was all over the web before and he even said it himself REPEATEDLY on his account how Nintendo is publishing... So who's the real idiot?"

Just because it's on the net doesn't mean every person on the net has read it. Do you understand that posting something on the net doesn't mean every person in the world has read it?

There are multiple sites on logic and reason on the net but that doesn't mean that everyone one the net applies logic and reason to the posts they write.

Do you know what fallacies you're guilty of in your post?
live2play  +   755d ago
Back-to-Back  +   754d ago
I am almost tempted to follow him on twitter just to witness these explosions first hand.
Godmars290  +   755d ago
The man's fully justified, given that the sequel wouldn't exist without Nintendo's support and that point has been made *dozens* of times.
hankmoody  +   755d ago
This guy is one of the few devs who actually respond in kind to the fans on Twitter. And then what does he get for it? I saw a tweet a while back where some douche told him that he was glad they bombed Japan when they did for whatever reason. Forgot why, it may have been due to Bayo2 being a WiiU exclusive. And then people wonder why these guys get nasty after opening themselves up to the public.
ritsuka666  +   755d ago
This is the internet is full of idiots,nothing new here.
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live2play  +   755d ago
N4G certainly supports that statement...
from the beach  +   755d ago
He singlehandedly justifies Twitter's existence
GTgamer  +   755d ago
He's just begging for Bayonetta 2 to flop ahwell its your fans but i see they don't get that Nintendo is supporting Bayonetta 2 :/.
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Concertoine  +   755d ago
Right, i wont be buying the sequel to one of my favorite games because the guy who makes it gets pissed at someone asking a year old question.
...naaah i'll be getting bayonetta 2.
GTgamer  +   755d ago
Hey you should know that a certain amount of fans don't give a F they will not buy it out of spite and you know that.
NihonjinChick  +   755d ago
@Gtgamer, I'm sure the people that were going to buy this game are still going to buy it. Bayonetta 2 not being multi plat won't affect them.
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Neonridr  +   755d ago
I love this guy. Totally getting Bayonetta 2 day one. This tweet just makes me like him a little more..
WPX  +   755d ago
Agree totally. I'll buy two copies just to support him so that he keeps saying to those morons to "F*ck off". This guy is gold.
Broburger  +   755d ago
I agree with Kamiya
Erudito87  +   755d ago
well that escalated quickly
rageus  +   755d ago
It really didn't escalate quickly. The question was answered quite a while ago and people kept asking regardless
Soldierone  +   755d ago
Unlike TitanFall there is no reason to keep asking this question. Nintendo made it happen, without them, he wouldn't have a job making this game.

If you keep saying the same thing over and over, making a headline about it saying "STFU already" might be useful lol
JohnS1313  +   755d ago
Why would anyone want that moron's game anyway? Bayonetta has to be one of the most overhyped games ever.
live2play  +   755d ago
You're so cool
LOL_WUT  +   755d ago
When his game doesn't sell let's see what he says then ;)
Jovanian  +   755d ago
I really hate hot-headed developers like this who get into juvenile arguments on twitter. You are an adult and a representative of whatever development team you're a part of. I've said it before and I'll say it again, this guy is a Japanese Phil Fish
TransientDreamer  +   755d ago
I agree that when you're in the public eye, you really do need to hold yourself to a higher standard and conduct yourself accordingly. I'm pretty sure for every person praising him, there is another who is turned off by his antagonistic approach here.
Hicken  +   755d ago
Who cares? He's not making games for people to give a damn what he says on Twitter.

Keep asking the same stupid question, and some people are gonna tell you where to shove it. Professionals are also human: they have breaking points just like everybody else.
KonsoruMasuta  +   755d ago
This guy is nothing like Phil Fish. Phil is a whiney little teenage girl.

Kamiya would have told Marcus Beer to @%$* off and kept going with his career and life.
Jovanian  +   755d ago
He is like phil fish in that they are both talented developers but let their ego and bad attitudes get the better of them
wenaldy  +   755d ago
As usual.
F**k the haters, keep rollin Platinum Games&Nintendo. I think this gen is going to end with Nintendo winning over the majority of the Japanese developers/publishers, and a lot of western developers/publishers dying off. no one's going to be safe except for Rockstar, EA, & Activision.
MrTimesplitters  +   755d ago


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what do you mean sega?
WeAreLegion  +   755d ago
I used to like Kamiya. He made some of my favorite games.
KonsoruMasuta  +   755d ago
What do you want him to do? These people keep asking the same question over and over again. I would get annoyed too.

Nintendo paid for the cost of development and published it. There would be no Bayonetta 2 without Ninty's money. People need to get over it.
InTheLab  +   755d ago
If you open a twitter account which is a direct line from fans, you have to expect this sort of thing.

To tell a guy to f**k off is one thing, but to then follow that up with "whatever" after the dude apologizes makes Kamiya a dick...and a salty one at that.

He deserves his 5 flops in a row, in my opinion.
Chrischi1988  +   755d ago
Give this guy a break!

Like with every exclusive title, if you wanna play it, you might wanna buy the console, it is exculsive for. If not, pp, pp means "persönliches pech", that means translated, "only your bad luck" in that matter.
PlayStation_4  +   755d ago
must be pretty mad over the poor TW101 sales
NihonjinChick  +   755d ago
I doubt he cares. Nintendo writes the check either way.
lilbroRx  +   754d ago
I doubt it. You certainly sound salty though.
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antikbaka  +   755d ago
Kamiya doen't care about ppl cause it not them who pays him. He sells his game to company, developes it and that's it. All profit goes to publishers.

Only this can explain his attitude towards his own products future. Just business, nothing personal.
NiteX  +   755d ago
He may be a grumpy guy, but he is a genius when it comes to video games. I can't wait to play Bayonetta 2 on my Wii U!
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tehpees3  +   755d ago
I don't know why people can't take a hint. Its nice highlighting Ninja Gaiden II and Mass Effect but those were different situations.

Real fans of Bayonetta will support the game and buy the console to get it. Otherwise they clearly don't care enough or not as much as they pretend to.
Phantom_Puss  +   755d ago
And to imagine, this guy created Okami......how sad.
PygmelionHunter  +   755d ago
How so? He just goes straight to the point, I wish more people in the industry did so instead of just finding their way around these kind of situations and affecting gamers in the process.
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InTheLab  +   755d ago
The guy that asked apologized and Kamiya said whatever. You wish more people in the industry were dicks?
PygmelionHunter  +   755d ago
There's various ways to be a dick in the industry, for example, flip floping is far worse than insulting ***holes who keep asking the same thing over and over on Twitter.
Phantom_Puss  +   755d ago
You know....I thought it was somewhat despicable for someone of his caliber to make such statements. It is not clever, it isn't cool, nor is it acute....it is simply immature.

The reason as to why I wrote what I wrote, was because I believed that he would be man of a more composed and tranquil manner. When I was a child, playing Okami and all his other games I was mesmerized. There was always something very unique about Clover Studio's(Capcom)works of art.....and I imagined what he established would reflect his own personality.

I completely agree with your statement....Developers/Design ers should voice their opinions more often and retaliate against anything that isn't right......but not with this kind of demeanor.
PygmelionHunter  +   755d ago
@ comment 20.1.3

I'd also wish that was the case, but it isn't, the guy can be as much a jerk as he pleases as long as he delivers, but as a gamer, I simply can't bring myself to care enough about that as to not enjoy his studio's games, besides, remember that it wasn't only a single man who made Okami possible, so I encourage you to keep enjoying your games without thinking too much about stuff like this.

BTW, thank you for replying politely, it's good for a change in this fanboy filled site.
Phantom_Puss  +   755d ago

Certainly, much like everyone else out there who had the joy of playing games like Bayonetta, Vanquish, Okami, Resident Evil, DMC, etc. will continue to play his games if, as you mentioned, "he delivers".

Platinum is by far one of the most talented studios in this industry....and regardless of how he acts, there will always be people (including myself) that will play their games, because his behavior does not affect the games themselves..... but perhaps the perception of people towards him as a human being. Personally, I think it does matter how people act and their reaction towards certain situations....and I do respect anyone's opposition to my opinion on this minor subject.

I am also fully aware that this game wasn't created by a "single man", but I took his position into account due to the fact that he was the director and lead designer....aside from that he is always in the spotlight (gladly give credit to the rest of the team ( ̄ー ̄)b).

P.S: The feeling is mutual...glad you kept your composure. Good exchange of thoughts.

JackieCruise69  +   755d ago
It's ridiculous how the Sony or Micro-boys are crying about the exclusivity of the game. I'm sure if I can fork out money to buy a Ps4 for KH3 (No thanks to shit-enix)
Then if they want the game so bad, they can go buy a Wii U for Bayonetta 2.
If they want to yell at anyone, yell at Microsoft and Sony for not funding the game.
Either way, Bayonetta 2 looks amazing, yet another first day pick-up for me and I'll be sure to enjoy playing it on my Wii U. ;)
Trago1337  +   755d ago
So people would rather have the game NOT exist that be exclusive to a platform? That's just sad.
MegaLagann  +   755d ago
Short, sweet and to the point. Love Kamiya.
stavrami  +   755d ago
Fuck you
Misaka_x_Touma  +   755d ago
This who thing need to be ported to PS and Xbox system
because it would sell better.

Didn't yall say the same about
No More Heroes
Goldeneye 007
and many Wii Timed Exclusives
Dravidian  +   755d ago
Which of those were funded by Nintendo?

Misaka_x_Touma  +   755d ago
that not the point
the point is ps and xbox fans
try to kill off every exclusives that comes to Nintendo

funded or not
Dravidian  +   755d ago

How is that not the point? None of those were paid for AND published by nintendo, so they had every right to put it on another system barring any exclusivity contract. This is no one of those cases.
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Scatpants  +   755d ago
Thats cool itll be your game that sells 15 copys
OttoniBastos  +   755d ago
First: This is not the way you treat your fanbase.

Second: This game will not sell well anyway, because it's a sequel of a game that not sold very well and altough has some solid fanbase,this fans are on sony and microsoft's consoles.

If nintendo want a exclusive that appeals to a more mature public,they need to make a game for themselves and not revive a fail franchise.
SpiralTear  +   755d ago
I don't understand what is "fail" about Bayonetta. It's a fun game and I'm happy it's getting a sequel.
a_adji  +   755d ago
Ok to people and gamers wh are sucking eggs. Platinum didn't fund the games development themselves pm it was only possible with the help of Nintendo as a partner. This means it ain't going anywhere unless Nintendo says so.

Given the sales if the original it's not going to happen. This is now a Nintendo game so I agree with him and you should F off if you don't like it
HappyWithOneBubble  +   755d ago
This game will barely sale 1m copies.
JuleyJules  +   755d ago
Time will tell but some fans of the original might buy a Wii U plus Wii U owners wanting an M rated game will too since there aren't loads of competing games on Wii U. It just might surprise people! If people don't want to buy the system they can do what the developer said!
2pacalypsenow  +   755d ago
Hideki Kamiya : Will you be buying my game?

Me : Fu*k Off!
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