Mark Rubin: "Hey, been on the road last couple weeks so haven’t had a chance to update, but wanted to confirm that for Xbox One we’re 1080p upscaled from 720p. And, we’re native 1080p on PS4. We optimized each console to hit 60 FPS and the game looks great on both. Still on the road, but glad to see the great reception to Extinction. Can’t wait for next week’s launch."
Same with BF4 too, PS4 version has 56% more pixels on BF4 (native 1280 x 720 on X1 vs. 1600 x 900 on PS4).
Really good to see that devs are using the extra power of the PS4 and not aiming for parity.
But my my... come on now.. many sources confirmed this, even journalists for god sake. Even if some of you didn't want it to be true.
At least it's upscaled though.
Get ready for a botched up Digital Foundry comparison to down play the PS4 version too(dat washed out blur). Looking forward to that high contrast, crushed black and dialed up sharpness on the XB1 version.
Sounds like a launch window rushed port to make a buck. Anybody who thinks X1 cant run Ghosts at 1080p is foolish, they just didn't have proper time with the final hardware and instead pushing it back, they rather keep the launch date purely for financial reasons.
Also enough with the lying, sure he may have been on the road but he sure as hell saw all the resolution fuss, just waiting closer to release for damage control, also isnt this the same guy boasting before about 1080p on X1?
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
-Yep he said it was running on both X1 and ps4 at 1080p, so he was lying or they rushed the game. Confirmed.
Time to consider cancelling my XB1 preorder.....
Not COD graphics, apparently they used Source engine, so CS graphics.
Just stop and think... if your plan is to only support developers that can get games to run in 1080p on Xbox One, you aren't going to own very many games.
Either be greatful that Microsoft is allowing you to play on yesterday's tech or get a PS4.
The difference is that developers use X86 architecture for PC already. Because they already use it for PC means they can squeeze out a lot more power of the consoles already compared to last gen. The developers can learn to optomize better but it isn't going to make a huge improvement like we saw with the PS3.
Just a comparison:
Lets say a welder is used to doing mig welding. His company gives him a special project to use a arc weld for some reason. Because it's different he has to get his technique down so it improves a lot over time. Then the company buys him a new mig welding machine. He already knows the basics and how to get lots out of it. He can get a bit better but he won't improve durastically because he already knows how to get lots out of the machine.
If it was a situation of it being rushed then it wouldn't be 1080p on the ps4 either.
Listen, I'm not saying that the xbox one can't run it at 1080p, apart from the fact that every one and their mother knows that the ps4 is a more powerful system , there has to be a reason other than "they didn't put any effort into it".
The ps3 cell and the xbox esram are two completely different things. The cell was never before seen tech, esram has been out for years. I know that it will take time for the devs to fully utilize it but to say that this game can't do 1080p on the xbox one because of 32mb of esram is absurd.
Microsoft has created a poor system, that does not deserve the title nextgen, regardless of how people may want to spin that fact it is becoming more and more obvious daily.
This is the consequence for loosing focus and trying to be a damn media box instead of a gaming system that can do media, e.g. ps4.
By your system, enjoy it, it will have great games and you should be happy about that but do not bash sony because they focused on a gaming system that is obviously going to rip the xbox one a new one when it comes to gaming performance. Blame microsoft for that.
both platforms will be a hit among the fans that play it regardless of the specs.
"Anybody who thinks X1 cant run Ghosts at 1080p is foolish"
Guess Mark Rubin is foolish then lol..Come on bro not even Crytek which is known for they graphics can get 1080p on X1. Your excuses are weak, now its rushed so I guess PS4 was rushed too and hit 1080 no problem...
Guess you can enjoy those cloud servers though...
If they rushed it, than why is 1080p on ps4? And Activision and COD is in MS pocket? How does that make sense? Also, MS threw money at EA for BF and still lower res than PS4. Get used to not buying games for your XboxOne since all the games on there are "rushed" but not rushed on PS4. :)
Mark Rubin CONFIRMS it to run at 720p on X1 but STILL you deny it and call it a lie?
Wow....seriously,wow.
You could almost forgive it for the BF4 specs as frostbite 3 is next gen but the COD engine certainly is not.
All the money MS has and they have penny pinched the GPU/CPU in favour of Kinect and buying the exclusivity of third party titles.
So glad I cancelled my Xbone pre order and kept the PS4.
"I will happily play any good game at 720p"
Don't have to much of choice do you...lol
No need to try harder when you make it easy lol
if this isn't a sign of the weakness of the xbone hardware compared to the PS4, i don't know what is... and the fact that it's CoD (which isn't the most graphically taxing game coming out) is an even bigger kick to the groin.
Bro, just stop. Your fanboyism is starting to look really bad.
Of course then he wouldn't have any bubbles...
You are told something ? It's a lie
Said "lie" actually proves to be the truth ? They dont know how to use the hardware .
When you dont conveniently stealth edit your first post to twist your original argument .
My post wont stop you , you're in deep involved in your trolling process , either for the lulz of it or religious fervor . I truly hope for you as a human being that you are not that serious , you and your link minded acolytes , and just doing it for fun on your spare time . Anyway enjoy your day and upcoming console
You can't reason with a fanboy,no matter how rational you can be,he will still try HARD to convince himself that his "stuff" is the most powerful in the universe.
So now it's a difficulty in programming or devs being lazy? wasn't that the same excuse Sony fans were making last gen with the PS3? and what did Xbox fanboys do? ..yeah,figures!
The tables are turned this gen Xbox Fanboys,if you can't deal with the heat,don't make stupid excuses or run your mouth wildly,the truth of the matter is,PS4 is more powerful than the XboxOne,end of story.
PC is still the most powerful though,that nobody can argue about that at least.
PC + PS4&WiiU(both for fantastic exclusives) are the way to go next gen(if you have the money I mean).
Now simmer down everyone,the battle is likely over,for the first year at least.
Xbox fans,you can thank the "multimedia" for this,Microsoft wants to push sooo much with the XboxOne that it backfired on what is more important for a console .. GAMING!
Have a nice night/day everyone.
I'm inclined to blame the developers, or possibly hard-to-use architecture... but I would love a no-nonsense explanation from Microsoft. Give it to me straight.
I guess in 3 weeks devs will be free to tell us what the deal is.
Its a 125 percent increase.
One Hundred and Twenty Five.
That is absolutely enormous. It actually shouldn't be that large really. Xbox one should do better based on the disparity in specs.
What it really suggests to me is that Infinity Ward struggled here to get their engine working properly on Xbox one.
PS4 should always really win but this isn't a 50 or 60 odd percent win you would expect, its a total massacre. Ouch.
Don't get me wrong with the stronger hardware and it's dev friendly architecture I was expecting the PS4 to technically have the superior versions of multiplatform games from day one but 1080p to 720p seems too big of a difference when we assume that effects, details and framerate are identical.
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Call an ambulance for Xbox One because its taking a proper beating before its even launched!
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"Its nothing to do with the "power" of the xbox its just harder to programme for - its like a throw back to 2005 when teams were struggling to utilise the cell properly"
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I LOLed repeating it.
"ziggurcat you basicly explained exactly why your own theory is flawed"
not sure how it was flawed. if CoD isn't that taxing, then why isn't it 1080p on xbone? there's two possible answers here:
a) it's telling of xbone's actual power, and any corner cutting was the result of weaker hardware.
or (and this is the more hopeful answer)
b) IW just really sucks at making games.
however, it makes no logical sense that the xbone version would have been "rushed" - especially when it had a pretty significant spot during the xbone reveal back in May - compared to the PS4 version... unless the PS4 really is that much faster/easier to develop on or the PS4 really is 50% more powerful as the specs on paper suggest (and we don't even know the PS4's CPU clock speed, either...).
It time to give up on this facade. We know you are an MS Reputation Manager and not a "gamer". It's time to give up on this alt and make another. At least that will buy you some time as we try to figure the next one (probably not long btw).
I even feel like getting COD (haven't purchased one since COD3 LOL) just to show publishers and devs that we PS4 owners will reward a game taking advantage of the HW we invested in, really guys, Activision and EA knows which is the larger installbase from day one and they don't want to piss them off, I applaud that!!
I'm just glad to see that PS is getting at least a LITTLE bit of love from Call Of Duty. I feel like they treat the PS brand like a red-headed step child that nobody wants, which could not be further from the truth.
I'm freakin ecstatic that with this and BF4 both having different resolutions between the PS4 and X1 version it means the devs aren't caving in to "gaming politics" and actually putting out the games in a form the respective hardware can handle. I was concerned about this for months and have been very vocal about it since the first mention of a possible push towards parity.
I say good job EA and Activision for not letting MSs systems shortcomings be forced on Sony gamers.
With this rumor being true I am now a bit concerned with the other negative rumors that have surfaced from NeoGaf recently. Their validity just went up a notch as they were right about cod, bf and even the driveclub delay.
I guess you won't be buying Titanfall either then, but there is a way that makes the difference in resolution explainable, and that's a difference in power. Higher res, better AA, better lighting... if it was a rushed game issue than PS4 wouldn't have these advantages.
@Robear - "Its nothing to do with the "power" of the xbox its just harder to programme for - its like a throw back to 2005 when teams were struggling to utilise the cell properly"
People really need to stop pretending ESRAM is comparable to the Cell in terms of complexity issues. There will be improvement just like there was with the Cell, but the improvement will not be to the same degree.
LAMO, ULTIMATE BURN.
Getting on topic, I know it seems hard to believe that COD is only running at 720p on XBO, but it really depends on what all they're throwing into COD Ghost. Using Black Ops 2, as an example it can really pound GPU's depending on the AA.
Look at these settings
Mid
http://www.tomshardware.com...
High
http://www.tomshardware.com...
An XBO GPU based on that PC should run BO2 in 1080p, 60fps, 2xMSAA (DEMANDING AA), AO, FXAA, with Medium - High settings
An equivalent PS4 GPU based on that PC should run BO2 in 1080p, 50fps, 8xMSAA (DEMANDING AA), with High settings.
I say "based on that PC" because while the PS4 and XBO have faster RAM, the PC has 1GB of GDDR5 at 96GB/s (which represents the XBO, but XBO has faster RAM than that), and 2GB of GDDR5 153GB/s (which represents the PS4, but PS4 has faster RAM than that). However, the PC has 16GB of DDR3 and a much better CPU.
My guess is the game is 1080p, Ultra settings, 4xAA, and the PS4 can run that easily at 60fps; however, the XBO is going to to struggle, and to get the game flawlessly locked at 60fps they dropped the resolution down to 720p. That's the only explanation I have regarding the resolution, and I'm sure with more time they could have moved it up to 900p, but that's what happens with launch titles.
This doesn't add up ms needs to drop the price to $400 if not $350 or they are gonna lose their market.
They always say you get what you pay for, clearly this is not the case.
what are they doing? really can someone explain this to me.
While you are asking Rubin about 1080p maybe you should ask EA about the X1 stage demo of BF4.
And it is CAPICHE. I know by the time you typed that anger had the better of you but if you are going to ask someone if they understand and choose to do so via Italian slang (Italian - capisci) do not make your question about said understanding more difficult to comprehend.
The semantics are so predictable.
Woah! Jokes got a "trolling" mark instead of an automatic "Well said" for 10 times as many disagrees as agrees?! Are his other accounts broken, or did his mod pal go on vacation??
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We all knew that, well, except the Xbots and I really think a bunch of them will play Xbox Defense Force 2013 to deny this when it has been confirmed.
Wonder what MisterX is thinking right now?
MisterX: Everybody knows less pixels means sharper textures. Ghosts Xbox One version is the best.
...I hope the Xbots eat it up again.
And they do.
2005-2012 Xbox 360 600/60fps in every CoD
2013 Xbox One 720/60fps ...in at least the first one...with freaking identical visuals...
I can't believe anyone would find this acceptable...for a $500 brand new machine that is outperformed by 2 year old mid range gpu's...its unbelievable to me, ESPECIALLY in a game as visually unimpressive as Ghosts...
So i guess the ps4 'wins', if you could call it that...even on PS4, ghosts looks like a dated mess...I'm just blown away that they couldn't get the xbox one to run a last generation game at a higher native resolution...
$100 more, less power, proprietary hardware (no existing 360 peripherals compatible with X1) and less value for their online service vs their direct competitor.
All signs point to MS was not initially going to release their new hardware this year. Everything about this hardware seems very rushed. Been there, done that with the 360. I'm not taken that ride again. The money I'm saving not getting an X1 will go to more games for the PS4.
"-Yep he said it was running on both X1 and ps4 at 1080p, so he was lying or they rushed the game. Confirmed."
That same eurogamer link? The one that DOESN'T have the developer saying that Call Of Duty is running at 1080p on the X1? Everyone says "IW said its runs at 1080p" but if you actually take the time to read it properly you will notice the only person who says its runs at 1080p is the author of the article, he says "Call Of Duty ghosts will run at 1080p on the X1, IW confirms" but IW doesn't mention 1080p at all in the entire article.
Funny how you tell me that i need to improve my reading skills but you lack the reading skills to tell the difference between a developer saying something and an author of an article saying that the developer said something.
He thinks he gets disagrees because of reading comprehension. He gets disagrees because he is an obvious company shill that talks a bunch of BS and expects people to believe it.
I throw my vote in for a "Lying" option when downvoting. Most of the time I push the bubble down option it is because of lies.
$100USD Cheaper.
And these differences are at launch, imagine the difference in graphical fidelity 3 - 5 years from now (or sooner).
I don't care much about COD res but this could be a sign of good things to come for PS fans.
PS4 is clearly powerful and easy to develop for which should give us games with not only great graphics, but great gameplay, and more.
Looks like XB marketing division might have their work cut out for them.
You are living in a fantasy world. The ps4 hardware is already way ahead of the xbox hardware and that's without devs taking advantage of its optimizations.
When devs begin to max out both systems there will be a very noticeable difference in games. People seem to think that it's only the xbox that has hidden potential. They both have hidden potential but xbox has it on much weaker hardware.
Coming gen even the multiplats will show this, day one by the looks of it. Of course there will be improvements on both platforms through the years, but the gap will probably grow wider.
Ps. Oakland is the best b!tches
32 MB of ESRAM will not balance the disparity between the consoles. The PS4 holds a 600 gigaFLOPS advantage over the Xbox One (for perspective, my 520 GigaFLOPS GPU in my 3 year old laptop can run Battlefield 3 at high settings reasonably well). Here are the other advantages: 384 more GPU cores (1.5x), 16 more ROPS (2x), 6 more compute units (1.5x), and so on. There is no way at all that a slightly higher theoretical* RAM bandwidth will offset that. It's just not physically possible.
Source:
http://i.imgur.com/Z4CvNT1....
The ps4 is $400 without camera, the xbox one is $500 with camera. The ps4 camera is $60.
Now, doing basic math that would mean if you add the cost of the ps4 camera($60) and the ps4($400), that would give you $460. so that would mean the ps4 bundled witth the camera would be $460 and the xbox one would still be $500.
Could you explain what mathematical formulas you used to deduce that with the camera bundled the ps4 would have been the same price or more than the xbox one?
The biggest pitfall of the Xbone will ALWAYS be the GPU. Even if it had GDDR5 like the PS4, it won't matter since the GPU is weaker. It has NOTHING to do with how the system uses RAM. However, it's even more saddening on top of the weaker GPU, it uses slower DDR3 and that bottleneck 32mb of ESRAM (fast, but severely limited in size.)
While on the PS4 end, developers are having a field day with that big gigantic pool of fast GDDR5 RAM 5-8GB (whatever it is) without the limitations of that small frame buffer, coupled with a more powerful GPU (think HD7870).
The specifications of both systems told anybody with any sort of computer knowledge that the PS4 is more powerful.
In 2-3 years time it won't matter, it will always be the same.
Also I'm not saying the ps4 w camera is $500 I'm saying the Xbox without camera is $400 or less.
and this all makes sense now when you go back through the initial announcements...the first penciled in specs of the ps4 were to only use 4gb of ram...from a cost vs. performance balance standpoint...that makes sense...the designers felt 4gb was all it really needed...however, the OS ended up growing to the point where it ate up a lot of that 4gb pool...and devs complained...Sony listened...its very likely MS went through a similar situation...
but on the other side...the gpu's weren't changed...which weren't all that memory starved to begin with...the xbox one's theoretical specific use memory bandwidth benefits doesn't amount to anything...you can store all kinds of instructions in ram as long as you want, but it doesn't matter when a cpu and/or gpu can't read it fast enough to begin with...which is seemingly exactly whats happening...
and thats the other side...both machines use cpu's that, literally, have more in common with high end smart phones than dedicated gaming devices...yet another reason that memory bandwidth is something both systems have to spare...concrete per core processing speed and gpu output are whats limited
This is 2013 ffs how can a game like cod run in 720p in nextgen console.
If this was a slower paced adventure game like oblivion I agree but for heavens sakes you don't get that much time to oooh and ahhhh over the graphics when your actually playing the game unless you like to stop still in the middle of fire fights to look around.
The "Experience" as you put it wont change, playing this game your not going to notice the subtle details between 1080p up-scaled and 1080p native as your flying around the screen trying not to get shot.
Exactly. I don't see many Xbox One gamers feeling sad that they are playing 1080p upscaled and not native. The game experience will not change from resolution, it is impacted by how we interact/control the game and by the people we play with. It's weird that some PS4 fans think resolution is key yet don't move to PC which is capable of much, much higher resolutions than the PS4 or Xbox One.
Games will look brighter than PS4 games because PS4 will have more depth and realistic textures. XB1 will have to brighten things up to disguise the disparity.
Both systems will be amazing compared to last gen. It is just a surprise that PS4 is now confirmed as the most powerful. It will take XB1 developers and system engineers 2-3 years to get to current PS4 standards. By that time PS4 will have become even more optimised.
Lets thank all devs for having the balls to go for it when we all thought they would not!
Not at all. It's just early proof of the power difference that many on here claim doesn't exist.
@Death - "I don't see many Xbox One gamers feeling sad that they are playing 1080p upscaled and not native."
That's because most of them are 360 owners who are used to pretending that "1080p" on the back of the box actually means the game is 1080p.
and just like BF4
i said developers don't have any more excuses about ps4 since it's not hard to work with and have the best hardware
so multiplat games will look better on ps4
and as it seems ....i was right (again)
and once again CBOAT was right
but makes you wonder
this game don't look that good
why xbox can't hit 1080p native with it ?!
And the PS3 situation was nothing like x1 esram situation, back then everyone knew PS3 was more powerfull! but with X1 everyone is knows its a fraud of a next gen console! granted when they get to grips with the esram performance will improve,but i doubt by much.
Time to wake up and smell the cofee guys,just remember even if developers get to grips with x1 what makes u think PS4 optimizations will just freeze? the devs will get better at using the PS4 strengths which everyone even microsoft know 30,40,50% power diiference? whatever it may be will show even more!
And take into account the GDDR5 ram bonuses and quickly any unbiased gamer will know PS4 is the horse to bet on this generation.
Sorry but already you can see the difference, the gap will only get wider as the gen goes on, as games become bigger,and more complex which is what always happens, the icing on the cake will be indeed the wiiu version turns out to be native 720p since wiiu and x1 share allot of design features, that will be like a 12 inch slap with nintendo's sausage in microsofts face! LMAO XBOX-720P
A great smooth running game is what we all want. All this story does is prove what we all have really known for months.
I guess those rumours of ESRAM problems were true but to have this kind of discrepancy in resolutions at such an early stage of the console's release- I mean who anticipated that?
Sure Microsoft are going to invest in games, but truthfully I think that's only to hold onto the fanbase they already have, and pick up some stragglers along the way.
How sad that people are judging MS against COD's lack of commitment to the platform. These are current gen games ported to run on the new gen. We all knew by the info that the PS4 is a joy to code on. The Xbox One is now the more complex platform, clearly due to the rushed and buggy SDK,s, sh1tty drivers and a general confusion from MS has led to this. But there is no stopping the powerhouses of BF and COD, cookie cutter games that rinse and repeat every year with hardly any deviation from the existing model.
As I said many months ago, I was never concerned about the capability of the PS4, but there is much doubt surrounding the state of affairs at MS. Unfortunately though, this news will be framed in gold and touted for the next few weeks as the definition of the coming generation. COD have effectively hammered the second nail into the Xbox Ones coffin (first from BF).
MS you put your faith in the wrong developers, who cares about exclusive content and early access to stuff when they know that they have an inferior product. You should have spent your money on more coders to get your SDK's and drivers finalised many moons ago so that these lazy devs could have actually made something special for you. Now your stuck with touting Forza as the only AAA 1080p game. Fools.
I mean, the 360 is running CoD in 720p at 60fps already since years.
X1 should be at least 3-4 times stronger with 8GB RAM and a way more powerful GPU than the X360 from 2005.
Apart from fanboy-wars I simply don't get this 720p Stuff on the X1.
WTF is join on with the tools? Something is really wrong.
Comparisons between X1 and 360 will be really interesting.
This is COD for crying out loud and the X1 is running this game at Last gen resolutions...?
and that's just that one, We've also got Battlefield which is far more impressively technically and Its still running at 720p on the X1... Killer Instinct, and Dead Rising 3.
Ryse runs at 900p...
The proof is in the putting!
"The proof is in the putting!"
Pudding my friend....pudding. Horrible pudding laced with tears p_p
You might want to consider that there may be more to it than bad drivers and development tools. The PS4 is undeniably more powerful, and no amount of ESRAM or cloud computing will offset that advantage. Note: this figure does not show the updated theoretical bandwidth limit of 204 gb/s for ESRAM; however, that is not nearly enough to balance it.
http://i.imgur.com/Z4CvNT1....
So is there any doubt why the embargo for cod xbone is so close to release date?
I've gotta say I'm Very shocked by this! This game which is doing less than BF4 cant even manage 1600x900.
This right here is one of the things that make you go "HMMM"
Have at it XBOX fans, You aren't playing a next gen game at all!
I was never getting the PS4 version of this game to begin with but It seems Developers simply aren't doing parity with multiplatforms...
Both EA/DICE and Activision/IW are in bed with MS, and the xbox one version of the games aren't even on technical parity with the PS4 version.
Mark Cerny was right! GDDR5 and a 1.84 TF GPU would do well, and that Devs would have no problems getting things to run!!!
My friend the cold hard facts are that even forza is no where near next gen! sorry but its true,it has last gen pre baked lighting, no dynamic day night cycles,sub par physics engine,no dynamic weather, no diverse race types, as in rally, nascar, kart etc i mean come off it just what does it have?
Gran turismo 5 a last gen game which is years old now was practically native 1080p, granted it was 1280 by 1080p and up-scaled to 1920 by 1080p, and at 60fps, it has dynamic lighting, dynamic weather, dynamic day night cycles,LOTS OF VARIED RACE TYPES, rally,nascar,kart, etc and again i repeat its a current gen game and gt6 looks to improve on everything, so imagine what gt7 on ps4 will do?
Racing games are the easiest to pull off at 60fps with higher resolutions, and still they couldn't even give you guys real time dynamic anything? dynamic being the key word? LMAO
Even a beat em up, killer instinct they couldn't even get running at native 1080p 60fps? hell their are beat em ups on current gen which run equivalent to or better then ki
It's not like games will never achieve 1080p / 60fps on X1. If anything all this is showing me is that the multi-gen launch releases are nothing but money grabs.
I'll stick with Ryse at launch and wait for spring for some cool releases.
It seems that whoever was in charge of keeping an eye on sonys plans really dropped the ball, because it looks like they were caught with their pants down big time. I mean just as an outsider looking in it looks like Microsoft thought Sony was launching later, at a higher price, with drm, and with a weaker console than they imagined and they were wrong in all counts. It couldn't get worse.
Their stragety was poor on all accounts. It's almost like someone at Microsoft(really working for Sony) was feeding them fake intelligence on everything and they bought it.
And now it looks really really bad that you have launch games released on both systems that run better on a competitors console at a much cheaper price! How do you spin that?
It's not like in the old days of xbox and the 360 where the people in charge were trying to push boundaries this time around I think they wanted to make a profit sooner and went for a cheaper mainstream product fueled by hype ala the wii. And it's backfiring because gamers expect more and Sony pulled one over on MS.
Have to admit at first I was disappointed and annoyed but not being too attached to one console I decided to just go with ps4 for now for lots of reasons (one being those horrible used car salesman reveals early in the year that left a bad taste in my mouth) But for xbox fanatics this must be killing them.
There is more of a difference this time compared to PS3/360. Microsoft will make millions from Kinnect 2 and casual audience once their advertising kicks in. That is where the XB1 strength lies.
In time XB1 may prove an awesome kit, just not the best for pure gaming.
Anyone who's done an ounce of research on the specifications for these next-gen consoles already knew that PS4 has a sizable performance advantage over the Xbox One. First, Battlefield, now Call of Duty. Almost all multiplatform games from now until the end of the generation will bear out this technical advantage.
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Connectivity has been the major issue with CoD the past few years, yet apparently what we all need is more resolution. You guys make me laugh.
Post a link if you have heard otherwise about the dedis. Thanks
Amen to that! I will wait on that link showing 100% confirmed full dedis for PS4, not hybrids, not listen servers
Give us a link where CODG is specifically listed using your precious cloud servers.
Give us a link where CODG is specifically listed using your precious cloud servers.
neither are going to play differently except psn network isnt exactly the optimum network for online gaming..lol
Agreed, even that was not for long, shortly after vince zampella the main guy at respawn tweeted that it was just the first game in the series which was exclusive, and that the sequels were not! also by the way he worded it, it seems like even they were not aware of this news till recently, most likely a back room deal made by ea at the last minute to please m$ due to the bad bf4 news! LOLOLOL seriously xbots need to realise they are being taken for a ride, xbox1 will be a entertainment first console, and kinnect casual gamer focused second, and then finally a core gamer console third! i called it ages ago, after seeing the wii success with casual's m$ has been itching for that money! hence the total lack of core gamer focus the last 3 years on xbox 360, and the complete focus on kinnect!
M$ is just roping in the core to build that initial install base, and then when they are ready they will most likely bring back all those garbage policies and concentrate on kinnect and casual gamers! its known as a bait and switch ladies and gentlemen, just remember i called it, see you doubters in a few years when your mad!
Granted its just my opinion, and a prediction,so don't bite my head off guys! but i wouldn't put any of it past Microsoft! just look at the x1 reveal, pure games console? my ass!! like i said before Sony have always put the core gamers first!!!! this is fact,take it or leave it!! i just wish the xbots would wake up! i feel sorry for them since they are all gamers like you and i! and deserve better!
as usual...in denial!
Its sucks But I doubt its "sad news."
I honestly think at this moment the X1 is not ready to be released to the public. There are way too many fu**ups, Microsoft needs to fire the people responsible for the Xbox devision and get new blood, people that understand what they're doing.
Sorry trolls but if you squint your eyes and look really hard the blade of grass in the distance might look smoother.
Pathetic laughable sonybots will never get it...
I just have to laugh, this isn't about believing the Hive-mind! lol, its coming to terms with the increasingly growing number of quantifiable facts that the PS4 is more powerful. if launch games hat are multiplatform are showing these type of disparities then just imagine what the end game will be like 2-5 years down the line?
And you said that you wont buy it because the game isn't 1080p...
Looks like you'll be just down to Forza as of right now, because nothing else from MS's stable runs that high natively...
Not Ryse, DR3, or all the slew of multiplatform games launching with the console. And its gonna be funny if DF does the inner findings and tech breakdowns and finds that Forza 5 is upscaled from 720p to 1080p...
I guess you get what you pay for... $500 and under performing! Good luck with your console. i'm sure you'll only enjoy Forza.
Give it a rest already!
Trying to make it sound as if online on PS4 is practically unplayable or something.
Good god...
So what in THIS UNIVERSE does the EVIL Sony console need to do for you to concede even an INCH that the holy relic (Xbox One) could actually be less capable a machine?
Is someone threatening you or your family? That if you EVER give anything but praise to this one company/product/line of products you will pay some price?
:/ so puzzling...
I detest many of Microsoft's business practices on principal alone, but I can do it like it's nothing, watch!
See there was this one Xbox One trailer showing all the voice commands and the Snap functions and the camera use for a Skype call and switching between everything and even recording and uploading gameplay, was an incredible trailer and if it actually worked that smoothly it would be awesome.
See, simple... try it, come on.
But seriously, I don't think that's it, not for CoD.... it really should go 1080p on just about anything.
So crazy
http://www.ign.com/articles...
Also, just because I'm not tech saavy and don't know the real difference, what will the graphical differences be between native 1080p and upscaled?
So, to that end, can someone tell me where I can still pre-order a PS4? There must be some still floating around out there somewhere.
KZ:SF will be better anyway...
PC MASTER RACE.
Upscaled from 720p must look like blurry, jaggy, hideous mess.My god.
Wow that leaker has been spot on with the rumors lately
Well I guess I can add this to my list of multiplat victories.
Edit: I made a mistake the rumors came from thurway not CBOAT
PS4: 3
Xbox One: 0
Tie: 0
P.S in case your wondering where the third came from its Need for Speed.
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Wow that leaker has been spot on with the rumors. "
Didn't he say Titanfall was coming for the PS4??
I love how Vince can just say whatever the F he wants on twitter even just criticizing his publisher. Just because Microsoft and EA need him more then he needs them.
Microsoft must've secured a deal in recent weeks.
Yeah I agree but that means that Respawn hadn't even begun working on the PS4 port.
they most probably had something playable and very unoptimised on PS4 since they have PS4 dev kits (again decoding Zampella's tweets). in any case we've all heard of how easy it is to run PC code on PS4.
I mean at the end of the day they are a multiplatform dev. they probably have Wii U kits as well.
Microsoft generally buys exclusive games while Sony generally has them made.
Tis thy truth.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
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It was just confirmation after confirmation.
He has gotten alot wrong in the last year.
PS4: 3
Xbox: 2
Tie
TF not going to PS4 & Drive Club being delayed but not X1's racer F5
I see I've angered some people :3
↓↓ PS4's racer isn't ready for launch but X1's is. Hahah I never said F5 was or is going to be on the PS4 XD I'm just playing the score game with you
@Olger awww :-3 I see you're taking this a tad too serious. Calm down
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Edit: @Majin damnnnn well i guess titanfall resolution will go up it launches next year but the OS the console launches next month woah xbox fans better hope that one isn't true.
He called MS's E3 90% correct too.
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then they would get lots of points
Just out of curiosity.
Btw your fanboyism is showing hard.
The X1 being weaker than expected is not a victory to anyone. Since most devs kill probably support it, that means this generation will be held back a bit as far as what devs will optimize for.
*hides*
I started getting suspicious when Microsoft, for the first time in years, allowed EA's Battlefield and Titanfall to be shown at their E3 press conference, instead of Activision's COD. Call of Duty has been demonstrated live on Microsoft's mainstage for years now; it's become a perennial expectation for E3. But not this year, for some reason.
I can imagine, if I were an employee at Activision and am hearing about all these deals Microsoft is doing with EA, I would be exclaiming something along the lines of, "Wtf? We've been loyal partners with Microsoft and supporters of Xbox for almost a decade, and they pay us back by promoting all of our rival's triple-A FPS titles?"
EDIT: 360 had 10MB of eDRAM which was not enough that it would cause a huge development problem even at launch.
I know well enough that it's complete BS to try and spin it as being hard to develop for. PURE SPECS alone dictates from the beginning the PS4 not only has a more powerful GPU (which is needed for HIGHER RESOLUTIONS) on top of having GDDR5 in which has been used for GPU's since god knows what 2007?
It's ZERO SURPRISE that the X1 can't output at a higher resolution being bottle-necked by that measly 32mb and slower DDR3, AND a weaker GPU.
What's so hard to understand? There's no magic sauce or fairy dust that will add compute units to the X1's GPU.
It's gimped at the hardware level. Accept it already.
Don't believe the N4G hype - go read some other sites and X1 is doing just fine. And Mark said both versions are looking great! Sounds good to me! =)
I'm sure xbone is doing just fine, just not as fine as PS4, clearly.
OT: I'm not surprised by the resolution that the PS4 version is at, but what the hell happened with the XBO?
WTF does my previous posts in favor of the XB1 has to do with my decision now? I haven't post on N4G for months and was dead set on getting a XB1 thinking that games like Battlefield 4, COD Ghost would be similar in performance in addition of the XB1 having the launch games that I want. Now, seeing that the disparity that is so one sided in favor of the PS4, I can't justify of what MS is doing charging $100 more for a weaker system, even with the inclusion of Kinect 2.0.
90% of my games are all third party games and I have most of them for X360 this generation because it performs better; thus, that is one of the huge reason I like the X360 more than the PS3.
I was dead set on getting a XB1 thinking the performance would be close but it is clearly not the case now. There is no way I can justify paying for a system that can't even handle COD (which looks like crap) at 1080P. There is just no excuse.
Down the line you can get a XB1 with a price cut for a Halo/Forza fix. That's my plan at least.
(and really surprising to see you saying it... it even sounds trolling, lol)
It wasn't my decision to cancel the XB1, MS made that decision for me over that past couple of months. First, it was Killer Instinct (everyone thought it was 1080P, then downgrade to 720P). Then it was Ryse @900P. News came out that Titanfall might be 720P instead of the promised 1080P, and finally, actual gameplays of Battlefield 4 and COD Ghost are the straws that broke the camel's back. I mean, it is one thing to to perform worst at low resolution but when the competing brand offer something that performs 50% or more better at $100 less, it is not a contest. MS should now really consider selling a Kinect-less SKUY for $299 because the spec that is inside the XB1 is ancient hardware, man. They are not Apple that can get away with robbery like this.
After 8 long years of favoring the Xbox brand over the PS brand, I am heading back home to the PS brand like it was before. Luckily, I already had my PS4 reserved at Best Buy a long time ago for the just in case scenario and I am glad I did.
If you want REAL exclusives from 1st party devs with a focus mainly on games that would be supported for longer and Naughty Dog choose Sony.
For me it's simple as the only console to have GT, Killzone, Team Ico, GOW, Uncharted/TLOU will be from Sony and that's enough for me to make it essential.
If only you could get through to some of the Xbox lovers on here that are still in denial and making excuse after excuse to defend the company and console they unconditionally yet irrationally love. I don't get it, I really really don't get it. How can anyone be so stubborn, so hard headed, so completely blind as to not see what you now see, and that a lot of us already have seen.
Welcome back to the darkside, good for you!
And I am going to be very clear - that it is because Microsoft doesn't care for gamers.
I know they'll refute that, but I will say "if they truly did, they'd have made hardware capable of parity"
IT CANT ACHIEVE PARITY - I'm jumping ship.
But there is a silver lining for all die hard Microsoft fans. If they actually stick to their word and follow Sony's lead with pushing and supporting their studios this time around, instead of closing them all and splashing out on exclusive deals, we may see some amazing games further down the line.
Price cuts, great games and no Kinnect may even bring in the Sony fans. We do all love great games, after all!!
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooom
Check my comment history to see what how much saying this means to me.
:( :'( :"(
I seriously don't know. I have both systems pre-ordered.
I've been flip flopping on which to cancel soo much, I kinda just wanna cancel both.
I'm still playing GTAV constantly.
just sayin' though.
So take Watchdogs:
PC>PS4>XB1>WiiU simples.
* Disagree all you want but I will inform everyone that both consoles are the same , it's just a matter of how lazy a developer is
If this disparity isn't just down to the Xbox's supposedly (at the moment)inferior dev tools then they are pretty screwed.
Lot's of face lost, both Microsoft and Activision.
2 things.
1. How in the name of hell could the XBO version be 720p? It should be running at 900p native at LEAST. Ryse is and it's much more demanding.
2. This basically debunks RTU's 'sources' about the PS4 version of COD ghosts running at 720p.
If we're already seeing this much of a gap in power at launch, then I can't imagine what it'll be like in a few years.
Just check NeoGAF, they're already on meltdown.
I have no clue honestly. Just offering up a valid reason as to the increase in resolution due to a decrease in fps.