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Mark Rubin confirms Call of Duty: Ghosts is 720p on Xbox One and 1080p on PS4

Mark Rubin: "Hey, been on the road last couple weeks so haven’t had a chance to update, but wanted to confirm that for Xbox One we’re 1080p upscaled from 720p. And, we’re native 1080p on PS4. We optimized each console to hit 60 FPS and the game looks great on both. Still on the road, but glad to see the great reception to Extinction. Can’t wait for next week’s launch." (Call of Duty: Ghosts, PS4, Xbox One)

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PlayStation_4  +   296d ago | Well said
Upscaled to 1080p... Sad news for Xbox fans!

Same with BF4 too, PS4 version has 56% more pixels on BF4 (native 1280 x 720 on X1 vs. 1600 x 900 on PS4).
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Lukas_Japonicus  +   296d ago | Well said
1080p native on PS4 and 720p on X1? Next gen hasn't even started yet and already the gap is noticeable.This has really surprised me, CoD Ghosts isn't even that impressive graphically!

Really good to see that devs are using the extra power of the PS4 and not aiming for parity.
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thereapersson   296d ago | Trolling | show
pyramidshead  +   296d ago | Well said
Lmfao. "only rumours!" "Sonygaf spreading FUD!". Maybe some of you will take rumours that start there a little more serious now aye? :P. This will sting for people who accuse Neogaf for making up rumours on the go.

But my my... come on now.. many sources confirmed this, even journalists for god sake. Even if some of you didn't want it to be true.

At least it's upscaled though.

Get ready for a botched up Digital Foundry comparison to down play the PS4 version too(dat washed out blur). Looking forward to that high contrast, crushed black and dialed up sharpness on the XB1 version.
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Robearboy  +   296d ago
Its nothing to do with the "power" of the xbox its just harder to programme for - its like a throw back to 2005 when teams were struggling to utilise the cell properly
Eonjay  +   296d ago | Funny
I don't believe it. Its just as the laws of physics predicted. More powerful hardware will in fact produce higher fidelity visuals.
xHeavYx  +   296d ago
First Battlefield and now this? It can only get better as developers get more time on the PS4
JokesOnYou  +   296d ago
Well its a no buy for me because they either rushed it or just didnt put alot of effort into it. The game is not graphically demanding so theres no way it shouldnt be 1080p on X1 when there are other games that can with better graphics.

Sounds like a launch window rushed port to make a buck. Anybody who thinks X1 cant run Ghosts at 1080p is foolish, they just didn't have proper time with the final hardware and instead pushing it back, they rather keep the launch date purely for financial reasons.

Also enough with the lying, sure he may have been on the road but he sure as hell saw all the resolution fuss, just waiting closer to release for damage control, also isnt this the same guy boasting before about 1080p on X1?
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

-Yep he said it was running on both X1 and ps4 at 1080p, so he was lying or they rushed the game. Confirmed.
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jatakk  +   296d ago | Well said
I'm actually a bit shocked, 720p on f-ing C O D! I didn't really believe the Neogaf rumours, but now I'll eat my hat!!

Time to consider cancelling my XB1 preorder.....
Enemy  +   296d ago | Well said
TitanFall is 720p too, even with those COD graphics.
Sci0n  +   296d ago
its easier to develope for now so they have no excuses. With the PS4's power now compared to the one we should see a even larger gap between multiplatforms performance.
pedrof93  +   296d ago
Enemy@

Not COD graphics, apparently they used Source engine, so CS graphics.
Eonjay  +   296d ago | Funny
@Jokes:

Just stop and think... if your plan is to only support developers that can get games to run in 1080p on Xbox One, you aren't going to own very many games.

Either be greatful that Microsoft is allowing you to play on yesterday's tech or get a PS4.
Game-ur  +   296d ago | Intelligent
If the BF4 and CoD reports turnd out to be true then we should start worrying about the X1 OS crash reports and frequent online disconnections, they come from the same sources, cancelling my pre-order till they sort things out.
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christrules0041  +   296d ago
@Robearboy
The difference is that developers use X86 architecture for PC already. Because they already use it for PC means they can squeeze out a lot more power of the consoles already compared to last gen. The developers can learn to optomize better but it isn't going to make a huge improvement like we saw with the PS3.

Just a comparison:
Lets say a welder is used to doing mig welding. His company gives him a special project to use a arc weld for some reason. Because it's different he has to get his technique down so it improves a lot over time. Then the company buys him a new mig welding machine. He already knows the basics and how to get lots out of it. He can get a bit better but he won't improve durastically because he already knows how to get lots out of the machine.
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thereapersson  +   296d ago
Eonjay, well it's the same logic as those who said they'd only buy exclusives on the PS3 because only PS3 exclusive developers know how to get the most out of the PS3. At least with the PS3 if you go that route, however, you still have a good chance at obtaining a solid gaming library due to Sony have a plethora of franchises and developers to rely on.
Bennibop  +   296d ago | Funny
The cloud seem to be improving the xbox then!
johndoe11211  +   296d ago | Well said
@jokesonyou

If it was a situation of it being rushed then it wouldn't be 1080p on the ps4 either.

Listen, I'm not saying that the xbox one can't run it at 1080p, apart from the fact that every one and their mother knows that the ps4 is a more powerful system , there has to be a reason other than "they didn't put any effort into it".

The ps3 cell and the xbox esram are two completely different things. The cell was never before seen tech, esram has been out for years. I know that it will take time for the devs to fully utilize it but to say that this game can't do 1080p on the xbox one because of 32mb of esram is absurd.

Microsoft has created a poor system, that does not deserve the title nextgen, regardless of how people may want to spin that fact it is becoming more and more obvious daily.

This is the consequence for loosing focus and trying to be a damn media box instead of a gaming system that can do media, e.g. ps4.

By your system, enjoy it, it will have great games and you should be happy about that but do not bash sony because they focused on a gaming system that is obviously going to rip the xbox one a new one when it comes to gaming performance. Blame microsoft for that.
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darthv72  +   296d ago
the tv i game on is native 720p so i wont really notice a difference between the two. then again, COD isnt about the look its about the gameplay and fun with friends.

both platforms will be a hit among the fans that play it regardless of the specs.
Brix90  +   296d ago | Well said
@JokesOnYou

"Anybody who thinks X1 cant run Ghosts at 1080p is foolish"

Guess Mark Rubin is foolish then lol..Come on bro not even Crytek which is known for they graphics can get 1080p on X1. Your excuses are weak, now its rushed so I guess PS4 was rushed too and hit 1080 no problem...

Guess you can enjoy those cloud servers though...
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805Junior805  +   296d ago
@JokesOnYou
If they rushed it, than why is 1080p on ps4? And Activision and COD is in MS pocket? How does that make sense? Also, MS threw money at EA for BF and still lower res than PS4. Get used to not buying games for your XboxOne since all the games on there are "rushed" but not rushed on PS4. :)
JokesOnYou   296d ago | Trolling | show
Lukas_Japonicus  +   296d ago | Well said
@Jokes on you

Mark Rubin CONFIRMS it to run at 720p on X1 but STILL you deny it and call it a lie?

Wow....seriously,wow.
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esemce  +   296d ago
This does not bode well for the Xbone, we have all seen how basic COD ghosts looks yet it cannot run at 1080@60fps.

You could almost forgive it for the BF4 specs as frostbite 3 is next gen but the COD engine certainly is not.

All the money MS has and they have penny pinched the GPU/CPU in favour of Kinect and buying the exclusivity of third party titles.

So glad I cancelled my Xbone pre order and kept the PS4.
BX81  +   296d ago
I think it's a mix of devs not knowing how to optimize the hardware and hardware made hard to dev for. Either way the system can do 1080p native. To be honest even the next cod looks this gen so I'm not stressing over 720 up scaled.
Brix90  +   296d ago | Well said
@JokesOnYou

"I will happily play any good game at 720p"

Don't have to much of choice do you...lol

No need to try harder when you make it easy lol
hakeem0996  +   296d ago
As far as hardware goes the Xbox One and the PS4 are not that far apart so software must be an issue for all these downgraded games .It's like the Xbox One became the PS3 .MS needs to rewrite their codes in order to catch up .Titanfall better be native 1080p other games are hitting that mark so it's not impossible .
nypifisel  +   296d ago
This rather proves it's not as much about GPU prowess and more about that terribly sized ESRAM. 32mb is too small for deferred rendering in any higher resolutions (Cause Xbox One really should be able to play crappy COD just fine if it weren't for the bottleneck ESRAM)
Cernunnos  +   296d ago
Not only is the gap noticeable, it's HUGE! It's running at twice the amount of pixels.
ThunderSpark  +   296d ago | Well said
Why does someone like "Jokesonyou" have so many bubbles when he continuously spews lies?? The PS4 is obviously the stronger hardware and the multiplats are proving that. I took off my fanboy goggles and as a xbox fan, even I can see the truth.
ziggurcat  +   296d ago
@ jokes:

if this isn't a sign of the weakness of the xbone hardware compared to the PS4, i don't know what is... and the fact that it's CoD (which isn't the most graphically taxing game coming out) is an even bigger kick to the groin.
JokesOnYou   296d ago | Trolling | show
ThunderSpark  +   296d ago
@jokesonyou:

Bro, just stop. Your fanboyism is starting to look really bad.
Reverent  +   296d ago
In regards to JokesOnYou, there really needs to be a down bubble option for "Lying".

Of course then he wouldn't have any bubbles...
Baka-akaB  +   296d ago
Everyone just know you always have an answer and excuse , whatever happens .

You are told something ? It's a lie

Said "lie" actually proves to be the truth ? They dont know how to use the hardware .

When you dont conveniently stealth edit your first post to twist your original argument .

My post wont stop you , you're in deep involved in your trolling process , either for the lulz of it or religious fervor . I truly hope for you as a human being that you are not that serious , you and your link minded acolytes , and just doing it for fun on your spare time . Anyway enjoy your day and upcoming console
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Studio-YaMi  +   296d ago
Some people are still in denial,I know "JokesOnYou" is at least.

You can't reason with a fanboy,no matter how rational you can be,he will still try HARD to convince himself that his "stuff" is the most powerful in the universe.

So now it's a difficulty in programming or devs being lazy? wasn't that the same excuse Sony fans were making last gen with the PS3? and what did Xbox fanboys do? ..yeah,figures!

The tables are turned this gen Xbox Fanboys,if you can't deal with the heat,don't make stupid excuses or run your mouth wildly,the truth of the matter is,PS4 is more powerful than the XboxOne,end of story.

PC is still the most powerful though,that nobody can argue about that at least.

PC + PS4&WiiU(both for fantastic exclusives) are the way to go next gen(if you have the money I mean).

Now simmer down everyone,the battle is likely over,for the first year at least.

Xbox fans,you can thank the "multimedia" for this,Microsoft wants to push sooo much with the XboxOne that it backfired on what is more important for a console .. GAMING!

Have a nice night/day everyone.
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jackdaddy  +   296d ago
As far as I can see, Microsoft is screwing over it's customers by trading this off as next gen. Their core consumers are CoD players who are being offered a sub-standard product and i can't see how you recover from that.
JokesOnYou  +   296d ago
Last words on this thread. No need to PM me hate mail, not even going to read it from the usual suspects...say whatever you like in the comments then Ill read it. Its not going to make me silent or believe the hive-mind.
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malokevi  +   296d ago
I'm definitely getting the PS4 version of COD, then. Bummer, and somewhat perplexing. I had figured that COD should be able to run at 1080p, considering nicer looking games are running at higher res on XB1.

I'm inclined to blame the developers, or possibly hard-to-use architecture... but I would love a no-nonsense explanation from Microsoft. Give it to me straight.

I guess in 3 weeks devs will be free to tell us what the deal is.
vulcanproject  +   296d ago
Well technically 1080p isn't 50 percent more than 720p. PS4 has a 56 percent battlefield 4 resolution lead. But this.....wow. This is something else.

Its a 125 percent increase.

One Hundred and Twenty Five.

That is absolutely enormous. It actually shouldn't be that large really. Xbox one should do better based on the disparity in specs.

What it really suggests to me is that Infinity Ward struggled here to get their engine working properly on Xbox one.

PS4 should always really win but this isn't a 50 or 60 odd percent win you would expect, its a total massacre. Ouch.
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I_am_Batman  +   296d ago
I think it might have something to do with Xbox One's EsRAM. If you look at the system requirements for PC it needs a minimum of 6GB for whatever reason (BF4 only needs 4GB minimum). Maybe that's why the Xbox One version has such a low resolution.

Don't get me wrong with the stronger hardware and it's dev friendly architecture I was expecting the PS4 to technically have the superior versions of multiplatform games from day one but 1080p to 720p seems too big of a difference when we assume that effects, details and framerate are identical.
Computersaysno  +   296d ago
Hell, Wii U fancies its chances at 720p on this game!

Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U

Call an ambulance for Xbox One because its taking a proper beating before its even launched!
XisThatKid  +   296d ago
For those that missed this nonsense here it goes again.
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Robearboy
"Its nothing to do with the "power" of the xbox its just harder to programme for - its like a throw back to 2005 when teams were struggling to utilise the cell properly"
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I LOLed repeating it.
ziggurcat  +   296d ago
@ jokes:

"ziggurcat you basicly explained exactly why your own theory is flawed"

not sure how it was flawed. if CoD isn't that taxing, then why isn't it 1080p on xbone? there's two possible answers here:

a) it's telling of xbone's actual power, and any corner cutting was the result of weaker hardware.

or (and this is the more hopeful answer)

b) IW just really sucks at making games.

however, it makes no logical sense that the xbone version would have been "rushed" - especially when it had a pretty significant spot during the xbone reveal back in May - compared to the PS4 version... unless the PS4 really is that much faster/easier to develop on or the PS4 really is 50% more powerful as the specs on paper suggest (and we don't even know the PS4's CPU clock speed, either...).
AdventurerDonLocke  +   296d ago
@JokesOnYou

It time to give up on this facade. We know you are an MS Reputation Manager and not a "gamer". It's time to give up on this alt and make another. At least that will buy you some time as we try to figure the next one (probably not long btw).
amiga-man  +   296d ago | Funny
Can somebody pass this information to Albert Panello apparently he doesn't know.
MazzingerZ  +   296d ago
MSFT was REALLY aiming to the TV box all the time, obviously you can't perform a 180 when it comes to HW and this is the result

I even feel like getting COD (haven't purchased one since COD3 LOL) just to show publishers and devs that we PS4 owners will reward a game taking advantage of the HW we invested in, really guys, Activision and EA knows which is the larger installbase from day one and they don't want to piss them off, I applaud that!!
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ThanatosDMC  +   296d ago
Meh, it's CoD anyway... what are they gonna say about Xbone that Fish AI took too much computing power???
ZombieKiller  +   296d ago
Reaper youre right. This game is played by casuals for the most part. So who cares about 720 vs 1080p?

I'm just glad to see that PS is getting at least a LITTLE bit of love from Call Of Duty. I feel like they treat the PS brand like a red-headed step child that nobody wants, which could not be further from the truth.
Jazz4108  +   296d ago
called zero optimization on xboxone and a rush job on ms drivers. Things will improve for both next batch I hope.
FamilyGuy  +   296d ago
A lot of the comments from you guys are hilarious but I'm not really one to bash for the sake of bashing. The significance of this announcement to me is the solace in knowing that they aren't forcing parity.

I'm freakin ecstatic that with this and BF4 both having different resolutions between the PS4 and X1 version it means the devs aren't caving in to "gaming politics" and actually putting out the games in a form the respective hardware can handle. I was concerned about this for months and have been very vocal about it since the first mention of a possible push towards parity.

I say good job EA and Activision for not letting MSs systems shortcomings be forced on Sony gamers.

With this rumor being true I am now a bit concerned with the other negative rumors that have surfaced from NeoGaf recently. Their validity just went up a notch as they were right about cod, bf and even the driveclub delay.
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MysticStrummer  +   296d ago
@Jokes - "Well its a no buy for me because they either rushed it or just didnt put alot of effort into it. The game is not graphically demanding so theres no way it shouldnt be 1080p on X1"

I guess you won't be buying Titanfall either then, but there is a way that makes the difference in resolution explainable, and that's a difference in power. Higher res, better AA, better lighting... if it was a rushed game issue than PS4 wouldn't have these advantages.

@Robear - "Its nothing to do with the "power" of the xbox its just harder to programme for - its like a throw back to 2005 when teams were struggling to utilise the cell properly"

People really need to stop pretending ESRAM is comparable to the Cell in terms of complexity issues. There will be improvement just like there was with the Cell, but the improvement will not be to the same degree.
ABizzel1  +   296d ago
@eonjay

LAMO, ULTIMATE BURN.

Getting on topic, I know it seems hard to believe that COD is only running at 720p on XBO, but it really depends on what all they're throwing into COD Ghost. Using Black Ops 2, as an example it can really pound GPU's depending on the AA.

Look at these settings
Mid
http://www.tomshardware.com...
High
http://www.tomshardware.com...

An XBO GPU based on that PC should run BO2 in 1080p, 60fps, 2xMSAA (DEMANDING AA), AO, FXAA, with Medium - High settings

An equivalent PS4 GPU based on that PC should run BO2 in 1080p, 50fps, 8xMSAA (DEMANDING AA), with High settings.

I say "based on that PC" because while the PS4 and XBO have faster RAM, the PC has 1GB of GDDR5 at 96GB/s (which represents the XBO, but XBO has faster RAM than that), and 2GB of GDDR5 153GB/s (which represents the PS4, but PS4 has faster RAM than that). However, the PC has 16GB of DDR3 and a much better CPU.

My guess is the game is 1080p, Ultra settings, 4xAA, and the PS4 can run that easily at 60fps; however, the XBO is going to to struggle, and to get the game flawlessly locked at 60fps they dropped the resolution down to 720p. That's the only explanation I have regarding the resolution, and I'm sure with more time they could have moved it up to 900p, but that's what happens with launch titles.
Autodidactdystopia  +   296d ago
I am now completely at a loss for words, where on earth does Microsoft get off selling this machine that is clearly clearly falling WAY short of the competition for $500 an extra $100 for a slower system.

This doesn't add up ms needs to drop the price to $400 if not $350 or they are gonna lose their market.

They always say you get what you pay for, clearly this is not the case.

what are they doing? really can someone explain this to me.
morganfell  +   296d ago
It is utterly ridiculous to equate the Cell with ESRAM. The desperation is so thick you can cut it with a knife.

While you are asking Rubin about 1080p maybe you should ask EA about the X1 stage demo of BF4.

And it is CAPICHE. I know by the time you typed that anger had the better of you but if you are going to ask someone if they understand and choose to do so via Italian slang (Italian - capisci) do not make your question about said understanding more difficult to comprehend.
sinjonezp  +   296d ago
Want to know something that is funny. Multi platform games ran better on Dreamcast compared to ps2. Games ran better on Xbox over ps2. And Xbox 360 games ran better than ps3. Dreamcast failed, Xbox was a gooD system but couldn't even sneeze at the ps2. The ps3 over time became the system of choice. So who is to say the xbone cannot achieve success? Yes the ps4 is more powerful and I will be getting one. But I will not dog the xbone just cuz of cod and bf4. It is sad to see that the resolutions of these games are the same as current gen and in this day and age, gamers want the best possible experience. The xbone will do fine and their is an audience for that system. I am a gamer and next year everything will be 1080p.
SilentNegotiator  +   296d ago
You mean that Microsoft and the gang were apprehensive to tell the resolution because it's embarrassingly low? Oh I'm so surprised! /s

The semantics are so predictable.

Woah! Jokes got a "trolling" mark instead of an automatic "Well said" for 10 times as many disagrees as agrees?! Are his other accounts broken, or did his mod pal go on vacation??
dmitrijs88  +   296d ago
Vote for NO Parity!
AceBlazer13  +   296d ago
@Jokes if your gonna skip every game that doesn't hit 1080p you'll have a very empty xbone collection. killer instinct isn't even hitting it.
MiHX2  +   296d ago
@Robearboy ESRAM is really hard to use.
nosferatuzodd  +   296d ago
thats why microsot buy out titan fall they need a advantage cuz they have none
AsimLeonheart  +   295d ago
Xbone: Dat cloud powered balance!
abzdine  +   295d ago
Guess who's behind this. Make some room for the boss:
http://abload.de/img/vylvmr...
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Kryptix  +   295d ago
This further confirms that the Xbox One is a rushed console if it can only run a CoD game at 720p native.

We all knew that, well, except the Xbots and I really think a bunch of them will play Xbox Defense Force 2013 to deny this when it has been confirmed.

Wonder what MisterX is thinking right now?

MisterX: Everybody knows less pixels means sharper textures. Ghosts Xbox One version is the best.

...I hope the Xbots eat it up again.

And they do.
FamilyGuy  +   295d ago
Lol, I checked out that misterx blog recently and the stuff they come up with is just plain ridiculous. You'd think it was all meant as a joke, one enormous list of sarcasm but no. Him and his followers are boarder line insane.
avengers1978  +   295d ago
@ jokesonyou what games run 1080p on the XB1?
Kleptic  +   295d ago
this is unfortunate...and confirms one of the biggest problems i had with the hardware when the consoles were announced...

2005-2012 Xbox 360 600/60fps in every CoD

2013 Xbox One 720/60fps ...in at least the first one...with freaking identical visuals...

I can't believe anyone would find this acceptable...for a $500 brand new machine that is outperformed by 2 year old mid range gpu's...its unbelievable to me, ESPECIALLY in a game as visually unimpressive as Ghosts...

So i guess the ps4 'wins', if you could call it that...even on PS4, ghosts looks like a dated mess...I'm just blown away that they couldn't get the xbox one to run a last generation game at a higher native resolution...
Boody-Bandit  +   295d ago
Final straw for me. I've been on the fence being that I'm a huge Forza fan. I am constantly looking for a hint of anything to purchase an XBOX ONE just to play that one game. But COD @720p is simply unacceptable.

$100 more, less power, proprietary hardware (no existing 360 peripherals compatible with X1) and less value for their online service vs their direct competitor.

All signs point to MS was not initially going to release their new hardware this year. Everything about this hardware seems very rushed. Been there, done that with the 360. I'm not taken that ride again. The money I'm saving not getting an X1 will go to more games for the PS4.
Lukas_Japonicus  +   295d ago
@JokesOnYou

"-Yep he said it was running on both X1 and ps4 at 1080p, so he was lying or they rushed the game. Confirmed."

That same eurogamer link? The one that DOESN'T have the developer saying that Call Of Duty is running at 1080p on the X1? Everyone says "IW said its runs at 1080p" but if you actually take the time to read it properly you will notice the only person who says its runs at 1080p is the author of the article, he says "Call Of Duty ghosts will run at 1080p on the X1, IW confirms" but IW doesn't mention 1080p at all in the entire article.

Funny how you tell me that i need to improve my reading skills but you lack the reading skills to tell the difference between a developer saying something and an author of an article saying that the developer said something.
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Koyes  +   295d ago
I am genuinely surprised! I knew that the X1 was underpowered but not by this much. Next gen has just started and already a difference, and a graphically lackluster game like CoD too
Drekken  +   295d ago
I usually mark JOY's comments as "immature" because there isn't a "Full of S**t" option. He isn't really trolling because he believes the BS he types.

He thinks he gets disagrees because of reading comprehension. He gets disagrees because he is an obvious company shill that talks a bunch of BS and expects people to believe it.

I throw my vote in for a "Lying" option when downvoting. Most of the time I push the bubble down option it is because of lies.
Maddens Raiders  +   296d ago | Well said
50% Stronger
$100USD Cheaper.

And these differences are at launch, imagine the difference in graphical fidelity 3 - 5 years from now (or sooner).
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MMEHTA  +   296d ago
I don't think its got to do with the power but how difficult it is to develop for, most likely, in 5 years time both will have even better visuals and the PS4 will have a slight edge with the power but the differences wont be as big as its being put by fans......
Death  +   296d ago
Seems kind of short sighted, no? More difficult to program for PS3 took years to get as good as the inferior Xbox 360. Today the Xbox One is the more difficult platform due to eSram/DDR3. If the PS4 is as simple as devs say, wouldn't logic dictate the Xbox One will see a bigger performance increase than the PS4? How is it the PS4 can only get better and the Xbox One will stand still or get worse?
DevilishSix  +   296d ago
Lets call a spade a spade and stop acting like the X1 architecture is so much different from the 360, cause it's not. Each have a small ERAM buffer. Problem is that MS failed to increase the size The EDRAM is 32mb in the 360 and the X1 has 32mb of ESRAM. IT was fine for 360 but its to small for X1 it should have at least been 42 mb and should have been 56mb. MS screwed up. Thank the now gone Don Mattrick for that one. It is what it is, its to small a frame buffer for true 1080p visuals and thus the added upscaler in X1, but at the end of the day they screwed up. If they planned this then they went the super cheap route.
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HighResHero  +   296d ago
People are going to be shocked and amazed when they see what some of Sony's first party studios are working on for the PS4.
I don't care much about COD res but this could be a sign of good things to come for PS fans.
PS4 is clearly powerful and easy to develop for which should give us games with not only great graphics, but great gameplay, and more.
Looks like XB marketing division might have their work cut out for them.
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Death  +   296d ago
Call a spade a spade? The Xbox 360 and PS3 were PowerPC based (Risc). Sure, the devs were used to the eDram, but not eSram and a completely different architecture. The tools used on the previous console are not applicable to x86 so none of them ported over. Now everything is written very much like PC games with the exception of the PS4 using GDDR5 for CPU functions and the Xbox One using eSram to increase the speed of the DDR3 for GPU functions.
johndoe11211  +   296d ago
@ MMEHTA

You are living in a fantasy world. The ps4 hardware is already way ahead of the xbox hardware and that's without devs taking advantage of its optimizations.

When devs begin to max out both systems there will be a very noticeable difference in games. People seem to think that it's only the xbox that has hidden potential. They both have hidden potential but xbox has it on much weaker hardware.
VonBraunschweigg  +   296d ago
Nah Death, PS3 was superior yet harder to program for, X1 is inferior and harder to program for. PS3 games started to outshine 360 games by 2008-2009 (MGS4, WipEout HD, Uncharted 2), X1 games probably won't. Inferior can't become superior no matter how much money you throw at it.

Coming gen even the multiplats will show this, day one by the looks of it. Of course there will be improvements on both platforms through the years, but the gap will probably grow wider.
DevilishSix  +   296d ago
Death the best analogy I can use is a water hose. The 32mb buffer was fine and maintained a steady stream flowing thru it on 360. The X1 has turned the water pressure up but has not increased the hose (32mb buffer) to allow the stream to flow properly and at an optimal rate. Thats the easiest way I can put it bro.
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BX81  +   296d ago
@ maddens raiders let's be honest it's only cheaper because it's not bundled with the ps camera.

Ps. Oakland is the best b!tches
CryofSilence  +   296d ago
@Death

32 MB of ESRAM will not balance the disparity between the consoles. The PS4 holds a 600 gigaFLOPS advantage over the Xbox One (for perspective, my 520 GigaFLOPS GPU in my 3 year old laptop can run Battlefield 3 at high settings reasonably well). Here are the other advantages: 384 more GPU cores (1.5x), 16 more ROPS (2x), 6 more compute units (1.5x), and so on. There is no way at all that a slightly higher theoretical* RAM bandwidth will offset that. It's just not physically possible.

Source:
http://i.imgur.com/Z4CvNT1....
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johndoe11211  +   296d ago
@BX81

The ps4 is $400 without camera, the xbox one is $500 with camera. The ps4 camera is $60.

Now, doing basic math that would mean if you add the cost of the ps4 camera($60) and the ps4($400), that would give you $460. so that would mean the ps4 bundled witth the camera would be $460 and the xbox one would still be $500.

Could you explain what mathematical formulas you used to deduce that with the camera bundled the ps4 would have been the same price or more than the xbox one?
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mistertwoturbo  +   296d ago
^Excellent points CryofSilence.

The biggest pitfall of the Xbone will ALWAYS be the GPU. Even if it had GDDR5 like the PS4, it won't matter since the GPU is weaker. It has NOTHING to do with how the system uses RAM. However, it's even more saddening on top of the weaker GPU, it uses slower DDR3 and that bottleneck 32mb of ESRAM (fast, but severely limited in size.)

While on the PS4 end, developers are having a field day with that big gigantic pool of fast GDDR5 RAM 5-8GB (whatever it is) without the limitations of that small frame buffer, coupled with a more powerful GPU (think HD7870).

The specifications of both systems told anybody with any sort of computer knowledge that the PS4 is more powerful.

In 2-3 years time it won't matter, it will always be the same.
BX81  +   296d ago
@ johndoe I can only assume since the 1st kinect was more than $100, the next kinect will at least be $100 at launch. Thus the $100 extra or maybe more depending how MS sees it. I personally would like a kinect less bundle but I'll pay an extra $100 for some extra features. Here's is the way I look at it. All these people saying the ps4 is only $400 don't get the camera, and that's ok. Sony doesn't believe in their camera as much as ms does. Who knows where it'll go. He'll Sony pushed 3d gaming hard as hell I don't hear a peep about it now. I pay $500 for xo because I can afford it and I prefer the online on Xbox live over psn. Things can change, just like Sony charging to play online. Idk how many times I read about Sony gamers thinking it was stupid to pay to use ur net you already pay for just to get online. Either way that's my long ass response. I'm getting both consoles. Walmart is saying delivery for both consoles by x mas if anyone is interested.

Also I'm not saying the ps4 w camera is $500 I'm saying the Xbox without camera is $400 or less.
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abzdine  +   295d ago
just at VGAs with some world premiere gameplay of The Order or Uncharted teaser.
UncleGermrod  +   295d ago
yes and no on this one. the gap will be there, but won't both systems get better with time?
Kleptic  +   295d ago
yeah, i'm not a developer...but whats pretty much unanimously agreed upon is both the ps4 and xbox one are mostly gpu bottlenecked...which is saying something, considering the PS4's is very clearly a more powerful unit...

and this all makes sense now when you go back through the initial announcements...the first penciled in specs of the ps4 were to only use 4gb of ram...from a cost vs. performance balance standpoint...that makes sense...the designers felt 4gb was all it really needed...however, the OS ended up growing to the point where it ate up a lot of that 4gb pool...and devs complained...Sony listened...its very likely MS went through a similar situation...

but on the other side...the gpu's weren't changed...which weren't all that memory starved to begin with...the xbox one's theoretical specific use memory bandwidth benefits doesn't amount to anything...you can store all kinds of instructions in ram as long as you want, but it doesn't matter when a cpu and/or gpu can't read it fast enough to begin with...which is seemingly exactly whats happening...

and thats the other side...both machines use cpu's that, literally, have more in common with high end smart phones than dedicated gaming devices...yet another reason that memory bandwidth is something both systems have to spare...concrete per core processing speed and gpu output are whats limited
Sitdown  +   296d ago
Why sad news? Does the upscale mean they will be unable to enjoy it?
PlayStation_4  +   296d ago
Not at all, but they will not have the same experience as PS4 users
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Xwow2008  +   296d ago
It means u pay 100$ more for an inferior machine.
This is 2013 ffs how can a game like cod run in 720p in nextgen console.
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TKCMuzzer  +   296d ago
I struggle to enjoy COD no matter the resolution, some of the things that go on in that game fry my head.
TheBrit  +   296d ago
Of course they will have the same experience.
If this was a slower paced adventure game like oblivion I agree but for heavens sakes you don't get that much time to oooh and ahhhh over the graphics when your actually playing the game unless you like to stop still in the middle of fire fights to look around.

The "Experience" as you put it wont change, playing this game your not going to notice the subtle details between 1080p up-scaled and 1080p native as your flying around the screen trying not to get shot.
Death  +   296d ago
@TheBrit,

Exactly. I don't see many Xbox One gamers feeling sad that they are playing 1080p upscaled and not native. The game experience will not change from resolution, it is impacted by how we interact/control the game and by the people we play with. It's weird that some PS4 fans think resolution is key yet don't move to PC which is capable of much, much higher resolutions than the PS4 or Xbox One.
VonBraunschweigg  +   296d ago
Nah Death, controls and people will be fine on both sides, but we're not talking about games here, we're talking videogames. Video, so resolution is important. Not key, important. In shooters, racers, consolewars:)
vigilante_man  +   296d ago
Microsoft have built an amazing upscaler - and now we know why. They also want to upscale movies for 4K output and have included a 4k-compatible HDMI lead (smart move btw).

Games will look brighter than PS4 games because PS4 will have more depth and realistic textures. XB1 will have to brighten things up to disguise the disparity.

Both systems will be amazing compared to last gen. It is just a surprise that PS4 is now confirmed as the most powerful. It will take XB1 developers and system engineers 2-3 years to get to current PS4 standards. By that time PS4 will have become even more optimised.

Lets thank all devs for having the balls to go for it when we all thought they would not!
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MysticStrummer  +   296d ago
"Does the upscale mean they will be unable to enjoy it?"

Not at all. It's just early proof of the power difference that many on here claim doesn't exist.

@Death - "I don't see many Xbox One gamers feeling sad that they are playing 1080p upscaled and not native."

That's because most of them are 360 owners who are used to pretending that "1080p" on the back of the box actually means the game is 1080p.
Ezz2013  +   296d ago
coming from the horse's mouth

and just like BF4
i said developers don't have any more excuses about ps4 since it's not hard to work with and have the best hardware
so multiplat games will look better on ps4

and as it seems ....i was right (again)
and once again CBOAT was right

but makes you wonder
this game don't look that good
why xbox can't hit 1080p native with it ?!
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LonDonE  +   296d ago
exactly, with so called next gen tech at the very least irrelevant of the esram, the cpu,nect gen gpgpu and 8gb of ddr3 ram should be more then enough to run cod at native 1080p!

And the PS3 situation was nothing like x1 esram situation, back then everyone knew PS3 was more powerfull! but with X1 everyone is knows its a fraud of a next gen console! granted when they get to grips with the esram performance will improve,but i doubt by much.

Time to wake up and smell the cofee guys,just remember even if developers get to grips with x1 what makes u think PS4 optimizations will just freeze? the devs will get better at using the PS4 strengths which everyone even microsoft know 30,40,50% power diiference? whatever it may be will show even more!
And take into account the GDDR5 ram bonuses and quickly any unbiased gamer will know PS4 is the horse to bet on this generation.

Sorry but already you can see the difference, the gap will only get wider as the gen goes on, as games become bigger,and more complex which is what always happens, the icing on the cake will be indeed the wiiu version turns out to be native 720p since wiiu and x1 share allot of design features, that will be like a 12 inch slap with nintendo's sausage in microsofts face! LMAO XBOX-720P
vigilante_man  +   296d ago
Better to put great textures and effects into 720p than compromise just for the sake of 1080p. So the developers have done the best thing here.

A great smooth running game is what we all want. All this story does is prove what we all have really known for months.
Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II  +   296d ago
Hey Jokes on you WERE HAVING A PARTY.
Septic  +   296d ago
That's just worrying. The X1 can't even run the mediocre looking COD:Ghosts at 1080p native? Wtf is going on?

I guess those rumours of ESRAM problems were true but to have this kind of discrepancy in resolutions at such an early stage of the console's release- I mean who anticipated that?
Ezz2013  +   296d ago
same thing that was on my mind
ANIALATOR136  +   296d ago
maybe IW are being lazy as usual
sigfredod  +   296d ago
This confirm what several devs are stating, the ESRAM is a bottleneck
stuna1  +   296d ago
What really going to be the kicker is when it comes out that Forza is truly 720p, up scaled to 1080p! All these things give credence to the idea that the Xbox1 main focus was never really games to begin with, it was the media side they have been interested in. Right now their media side functions are operating in 1080p, they have 3 different OS, one that is supposedly heavily vested on the media side of the Xbox1. It wouldn't surprise me if their cloud service wasn't meant for the gaming side of the Xbox1, but for the media side of Xbox1.

Sure Microsoft are going to invest in games, but truthfully I think that's only to hold onto the fanbase they already have, and pick up some stragglers along the way.
2cents  +   296d ago
What a balls-up this is.

How sad that people are judging MS against COD's lack of commitment to the platform. These are current gen games ported to run on the new gen. We all knew by the info that the PS4 is a joy to code on. The Xbox One is now the more complex platform, clearly due to the rushed and buggy SDK,s, sh1tty drivers and a general confusion from MS has led to this. But there is no stopping the powerhouses of BF and COD, cookie cutter games that rinse and repeat every year with hardly any deviation from the existing model.

As I said many months ago, I was never concerned about the capability of the PS4, but there is much doubt surrounding the state of affairs at MS. Unfortunately though, this news will be framed in gold and touted for the next few weeks as the definition of the coming generation. COD have effectively hammered the second nail into the Xbox Ones coffin (first from BF).

MS you put your faith in the wrong developers, who cares about exclusive content and early access to stuff when they know that they have an inferior product. You should have spent your money on more coders to get your SDK's and drivers finalised many moons ago so that these lazy devs could have actually made something special for you. Now your stuck with touting Forza as the only AAA 1080p game. Fools.
bmx_bandit  +   296d ago
I don't get it.

I mean, the 360 is running CoD in 720p at 60fps already since years.

X1 should be at least 3-4 times stronger with 8GB RAM and a way more powerful GPU than the X360 from 2005.

Apart from fanboy-wars I simply don't get this 720p Stuff on the X1.
WTF is join on with the tools? Something is really wrong.

Comparisons between X1 and 360 will be really interesting.
SuicideKing  +   296d ago
I'm seriously shocked that they couldn't even hit 900p. I didn't believe all the rumors, I had most of my games preordered for xbox, but that it's going to change. I may cancel my Xbox one pre-order all together until Titanfall. Well I'm sure ac4 isn't 1080 either on Xbox. I can't believe Xbox would put out such a weak console. Shocked and disgusted with them.
Sevir  +   296d ago
Ok, 2Cents!!! Its not just COD that we are judging the console by its the fact that games this early in the life cycle where most should be striving for parity, you'd expect that the consoles, both of which are early platforms with learning curves, yet from the jump we see that even mediocre game engines cant even run at 1080p.

This is COD for crying out loud and the X1 is running this game at Last gen resolutions...?

and that's just that one, We've also got Battlefield which is far more impressively technically and Its still running at 720p on the X1... Killer Instinct, and Dead Rising 3.

Ryse runs at 900p...

The proof is in the putting!
Septic  +   296d ago
@Sevir

"The proof is in the putting!"

Pudding my friend....pudding. Horrible pudding laced with tears p_p
CryofSilence  +   296d ago
@2Cents

You might want to consider that there may be more to it than bad drivers and development tools. The PS4 is undeniably more powerful, and no amount of ESRAM or cloud computing will offset that advantage. Note: this figure does not show the updated theoretical bandwidth limit of 204 gb/s for ESRAM; however, that is not nearly enough to balance it.

http://i.imgur.com/Z4CvNT1....
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T2  +   296d ago
Yet another cboat rumour confirmed while I was getting hate pms from xbots just for stating his track record was decent .....
So is there any doubt why the embargo for cod xbone is so close to release date?
Sevir  +   296d ago
@Septic! LOL! Yeah I realized this and couldn't edit!

I've gotta say I'm Very shocked by this! This game which is doing less than BF4 cant even manage 1600x900.

This right here is one of the things that make you go "HMMM"

Have at it XBOX fans, You aren't playing a next gen game at all!

I was never getting the PS4 version of this game to begin with but It seems Developers simply aren't doing parity with multiplatforms...

Both EA/DICE and Activision/IW are in bed with MS, and the xbox one version of the games aren't even on technical parity with the PS4 version.

Mark Cerny was right! GDDR5 and a 1.84 TF GPU would do well, and that Devs would have no problems getting things to run!!!
LonDonE  +   296d ago
@2cents
My friend the cold hard facts are that even forza is no where near next gen! sorry but its true,it has last gen pre baked lighting, no dynamic day night cycles,sub par physics engine,no dynamic weather, no diverse race types, as in rally, nascar, kart etc i mean come off it just what does it have?

Gran turismo 5 a last gen game which is years old now was practically native 1080p, granted it was 1280 by 1080p and up-scaled to 1920 by 1080p, and at 60fps, it has dynamic lighting, dynamic weather, dynamic day night cycles,LOTS OF VARIED RACE TYPES, rally,nascar,kart, etc and again i repeat its a current gen game and gt6 looks to improve on everything, so imagine what gt7 on ps4 will do?

Racing games are the easiest to pull off at 60fps with higher resolutions, and still they couldn't even give you guys real time dynamic anything? dynamic being the key word? LMAO
Even a beat em up, killer instinct they couldn't even get running at native 1080p 60fps? hell their are beat em ups on current gen which run equivalent to or better then ki
CJDUNCAN  +   296d ago
At launch I expected some nonsense from multi-plat releases. While this is disappointing and definitely makes me think about skipping COD again this year, I know that getting a new console is an investment for it's future.

It's not like games will never achieve 1080p / 60fps on X1. If anything all this is showing me is that the multi-gen launch releases are nothing but money grabs.

I'll stick with Ryse at launch and wait for spring for some cool releases.
Soc5  +   295d ago
Yeah, well it started to look really bad when the guy (Don Mattrick) who was in charge of the planning and development of the thing jumped ship before it was even released! He couldn't even stay around to see it launched, that's crazy, and should have concerned a lot of people.

It seems that whoever was in charge of keeping an eye on sonys plans really dropped the ball, because it looks like they were caught with their pants down big time. I mean just as an outsider looking in it looks like Microsoft thought Sony was launching later, at a higher price, with drm, and with a weaker console than they imagined and they were wrong in all counts. It couldn't get worse.

Their stragety was poor on all accounts. It's almost like someone at Microsoft(really working for Sony) was feeding them fake intelligence on everything and they bought it.

And now it looks really really bad that you have launch games released on both systems that run better on a competitors console at a much cheaper price! How do you spin that?

It's not like in the old days of xbox and the 360 where the people in charge were trying to push boundaries this time around I think they wanted to make a profit sooner and went for a cheaper mainstream product fueled by hype ala the wii. And it's backfiring because gamers expect more and Sony pulled one over on MS.

Have to admit at first I was disappointed and annoyed but not being too attached to one console I decided to just go with ps4 for now for lots of reasons (one being those horrible used car salesman reveals early in the year that left a bad taste in my mouth) But for xbox fanatics this must be killing them.
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Xsilver  +   296d ago
i really don't understand why COD of all games cant do 1080p on the xone i find that sad.
Legacy212  +   296d ago
Yea I dont understand why not I mean if they can push ryse 900p and battlefield 720p no reason why they cant run COD at 900-1080p. I am very disappointed but never planned on playing Ghost. Hope when they start getting used to the ESRAM the games shape up better graphics.
vigilante_man  +   296d ago
Remember the XB1 also has a less powerful GPU compared to PS4. So we should not expect games to be of the exact same quality, graphics wise.

There is more of a difference this time compared to PS3/360. Microsoft will make millions from Kinnect 2 and casual audience once their advertising kicks in. That is where the XB1 strength lies.

In time XB1 may prove an awesome kit, just not the best for pure gaming.
Statix  +   296d ago
No shocking news here.

Anyone who's done an ounce of research on the specifications for these next-gen consoles already knew that PS4 has a sizable performance advantage over the Xbox One. First, Battlefield, now Call of Duty. Almost all multiplatform games from now until the end of the generation will bear out this technical advantage.
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mistertwoturbo  +   296d ago
Exactly what was on my mind. It's from a pure specification stand point. It was in their faces the whole time and they still kept trying to argue it.
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AnteCash  +   296d ago | Funny
But they didnt use the secret sauce yet!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-m...
sigfredod  +   296d ago
lol
Ezz2013  +   296d ago
lel
DevilishSix  +   296d ago
lol, I was thinking they forgot to get their rocket scientists on the job. Sorry I had to say it.
Destrania  +   296d ago
That was freakin' funny lol.
llMurcielagoll  +   296d ago
Doesn't matter the game will still look crap with smart fish.
scott182  +   296d ago
Pardon my ignorance but when they say upscaled and native... what is the difference and why does it matter if something is native vs upscaled?
mistertwoturbo  +   296d ago
Native means that's the true resolution the system is rendering. Upscaled means they rendered it at a lower resolution then projected it to the higher resolution on the tv. 720p is 921,600 pixels and 1080p is 2,073,600 pixels. That's more than twice the resolution the X1 is outputting. The difference is in clarity, less aliasing, and sharper everything.
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sigfredod  +   296d ago
ok have ever take a plastic bag with a logo printed and strech it? you notice how the logo began to look less sharp and more blurry?, thats is basically what happen when you take a 720p image and upscale it (stretch it) to a 1080p output
dktxx2  +   296d ago
Native means that the images are rendered (created) in 1080p. Upscale means that they are rendered in 720p and stretched (via software) out to 1080p.
Angels3785  +   296d ago
here is the difference in quality with visual aids

http://www.red.com/learn/re...
esemce  +   296d ago
Cod On PS3/360 is 540p scaled to 720p for example.
Funnymonkey013  +   296d ago
Damn this is something. So now we have 3 games that r better on PS4 BF4 COD G and NFS R. I'm getting worried 4 the X1 future as I feel like MS has really not been thinking of what's good and what's bad 4 the system and dare I say May end up being like the saga dreamcast if Sony pulls away with selling more system everywhere and being the most popular gaming system on the market. They should of just made it like PS4 make it a gaming system first then all others like TV and kenect 2nd. I have a feeling by next year we will be seeing loads of ps4 outselling X1 by a larg margin. Anyway only a little more then 2 weeks when PS4 coming out sofreaking excited!!! Can't wait to get my killzone bundle with cod and NFS r to my house and start playing it none stop 2 full days:)
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fullymoated  +   296d ago
Not really too sad about it.. I'll play 720p with DEDICATED SERVERS over 1080p with peer-to-peer connection ANY DAY
Bennibop  +   296d ago
Erm Ps4 cod has been confirmed as on dedicated servers a while back. In fact ps3 games have been using dedicated servers since launch only the likes of cod have not been using them.
fullymoated  +   296d ago
You mean this confirmation? “Ghosts will be using a hybrid system of dedicated servers and listen servers.” Is that the one that you think 100% confirms full dedicated servers for PS4? You might be disappointed.
GrandpaSnake  +   296d ago
how do yo have so many bubbles in n4g and not know that was old news, dedicated servers have been confirmed for ps4 a while back son!
raWfodog  +   296d ago
Whether its dedicated or listen, it's still not 'peer-to-peer' as you suggested.
fullymoated  +   296d ago
Snake - everyone knows the old news =) My point was that it was not confirmed PS4 is full dedicated. They could very well be listen servers. Also known as connecting to another player in your game and not a dedicated server.

Connectivity has been the major issue with CoD the past few years, yet apparently what we all need is more resolution. You guys make me laugh.

Post a link if you have heard otherwise about the dedis. Thanks
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Bennibop  +   296d ago
There are far to many people on here that think they are all knowing just because they support a certain brand. Try doing some proper research or read actual news not rumour and conjecture!
fullymoated  +   296d ago
@Bennibop
Amen to that! I will wait on that link showing 100% confirmed full dedis for PS4, not hybrids, not listen servers
Revolver_X_  +   296d ago
Better yet fully

Give us a link where CODG is specifically listed using your precious cloud servers.
Revolver_X_  +   296d ago
Better yet fully

Give us a link where CODG is specifically listed using your precious cloud servers.
FANTA1180  +   296d ago
noone cares guy ...xbox fans are still going to buy call of duty.

neither are going to play differently except psn network isnt exactly the optimum network for online gaming..lol
TheTwelve  +   296d ago
Hope Xbox fans enjoyed those hours of good Titanfall news because now it's back to the grind...
amnalehu  +   296d ago
Its not an accident that was announced when it was. t was meant to soften the blow.
TheTwelve  +   296d ago
I definitely agree with you.
LonDonE  +   296d ago
@The Twelve

Agreed, even that was not for long, shortly after vince zampella the main guy at respawn tweeted that it was just the first game in the series which was exclusive, and that the sequels were not! also by the way he worded it, it seems like even they were not aware of this news till recently, most likely a back room deal made by ea at the last minute to please m$ due to the bad bf4 news! LOLOLOL seriously xbots need to realise they are being taken for a ride, xbox1 will be a entertainment first console, and kinnect casual gamer focused second, and then finally a core gamer console third! i called it ages ago, after seeing the wii success with casual's m$ has been itching for that money! hence the total lack of core gamer focus the last 3 years on xbox 360, and the complete focus on kinnect!

M$ is just roping in the core to build that initial install base, and then when they are ready they will most likely bring back all those garbage policies and concentrate on kinnect and casual gamers! its known as a bait and switch ladies and gentlemen, just remember i called it, see you doubters in a few years when your mad!

Granted its just my opinion, and a prediction,so don't bite my head off guys! but i wouldn't put any of it past Microsoft! just look at the x1 reveal, pure games console? my ass!! like i said before Sony have always put the core gamers first!!!! this is fact,take it or leave it!! i just wish the xbots would wake up! i feel sorry for them since they are all gamers like you and i! and deserve better!
reko  +   296d ago
@joy

as usual...in denial!
AngelicIceDiamond  +   296d ago
"Upscaled to 1080p... Sad news for Xbox fans!"

Its sucks But I doubt its "sad news."
come_bom  +   296d ago
I think the X1 could handle Call of Duty: Ghosts at 1080p, but at this moment, the X1 is so badly optimized due to Microsoft's various 180's, that they had to lower the games settings to get it too run properly.

I honestly think at this moment the X1 is not ready to be released to the public. There are way too many fu**ups, Microsoft needs to fire the people responsible for the Xbox devision and get new blood, people that understand what they're doing.
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JonnyBigBoss  +   296d ago
You sound happy to find this out. You're a hateful person.
jamsam360  +   296d ago
Microsoft already said that they are late with drivers and software for improvements. So I will go with that for now.
C-Thunder  +   296d ago
Excuses, it will always lag behind.
Trekster_Gamer  +   296d ago
May be upscaled but superior online ..
Sorry trolls but if you squint your eyes and look really hard the blade of grass in the distance might look smoother.

Pathetic laughable sonybots will never get it...
davidDIRK  +   296d ago
Lol. Priceless.
Campy da Camper  +   296d ago
So you have compared the upgraded PSN on the PS4 to LIVE? Can you bullet point all differences please?
JetP0619  +   295d ago
in Response to Campy da Camper, i dont think trekster knows what he's talking about. Also funny that the same person that leaked this info about the resolution also said that Xbox live is having major problems and they werent talking about weeks of fixing it. Dropped connections and matchmaking problems. That's what happens when you build your whole infrastructure with DRM in mind only to reverse it later on lol. Enjoy that downgraded Live and resolution. Xbox 360 is looking more like the next gen console than the xbox one lol.
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Sevir  +   296d ago
JokesOnYou-

I just have to laugh, this isn't about believing the Hive-mind! lol, its coming to terms with the increasingly growing number of quantifiable facts that the PS4 is more powerful. if launch games hat are multiplatform are showing these type of disparities then just imagine what the end game will be like 2-5 years down the line?

And you said that you wont buy it because the game isn't 1080p...

Looks like you'll be just down to Forza as of right now, because nothing else from MS's stable runs that high natively...

Not Ryse, DR3, or all the slew of multiplatform games launching with the console. And its gonna be funny if DF does the inner findings and tech breakdowns and finds that Forza 5 is upscaled from 720p to 1080p...

I guess you get what you pay for... $500 and under performing! Good luck with your console. i'm sure you'll only enjoy Forza.
Mills93  +   296d ago
Because games can only be enjoyed if they are 1080p forgot about that
Sevir  +   296d ago
i'mg going by what he said. he said he wont be buying a game because they cant reach 1080p... LOL! The enjoyment factor isn't dependent on it but lets just cut the rational talk really, had this been the other way around like it was with the PS3 back in 06 the vast majority of XBOX fans would be flaming this to hell. Now that the tables have turned what was said months ago suddenly doesn't matter.

Give it a rest already!
davidDIRK  +   296d ago
Game over xbox.
admj83  +   296d ago
Same but now its 125% more pixels! This turning out very bad for xbox fans.
boneso82  +   296d ago
Maybe they predicted this sort of thing based on the system they made and this is why they didn't call it the Xbox 720...
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corvusmd  +   296d ago
Honestly, I know you'd think it's a sad day for XB1 fans, but not really. 1. Being as NO ONE on this forum can actually tell the difference between upscaled and native 1080p when playing anyway...that point is invalid (as I have been saying since day one) not to mention that XB1 has an advanced upscaler so perhaps using that instead of being native leads to reason #.. 2. Perhaps the reduced resolution will free up the system to provide some other graphical enhancements (and since you still can't tell the difference between native and upscaled...this will mean it actually looks better.) But MOST IMPORTANTLY #3...since you can't tell the difference graphically...the fact that XB1 will have ACTUAL dediated servers not just pretend ones like KZ and PS4's COD...the online experience will be MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better...As shown by the comparisson between BF4 on PS4 and XB1...XB1 looks just as good if not better...so would XB1 fans like native 1080p sure, as long as it doesn't take away from anything else...do they need it? Absolutely not....Does PS4 need a better network instead of investing fully in a machine that can ONLY do native 1080p....ABSOLUTELY ...especially since it doesn't create any REAL advantage. Cry all you want, you know it's true, either way I'm a true gamer and will have fun playing the games I like
MysticStrummer  +   296d ago
Much was made about smaller differences during the PS3/360 years, so why wouldn't bigger differences be pointed out now, especially when it's two impending next gen consoles?
ErcsYou  +   296d ago
Lol, that was the funniest sh!t ive read in a long time, thanks for the laughs..
mkis007  +   296d ago
Your point is invalidated as I routinely notice those differences. Next time don't speak in absolutes. Then look at the fact it is pushing these pixels at a better frame rate than the xbox1 is doing at a lower resolution and you see where the problem is corvus. Even better is the fact the console that is pushing more pixels and preforming better is 100$ cheaper. If need be Sony can buy dedicated servers, where as MS is stuck with its consoles hardware. So you were willing to think they would gimp the ps4 version of games a while ago, but now that the tables have turned you believe they will give the xb1 better textures?? I don't like to be one of those guys, but you telling me what I can and can't see is dumbfounding.
cyclindk  +   295d ago
If nothing else, you are TRULY deluded...

Trying to make it sound as if online on PS4 is practically unplayable or something.

Good god...

So what in THIS UNIVERSE does the EVIL Sony console need to do for you to concede even an INCH that the holy relic (Xbox One) could actually be less capable a machine?

Is someone threatening you or your family? That if you EVER give anything but praise to this one company/product/line of products you will pay some price?

:/ so puzzling...

I detest many of Microsoft's business practices on principal alone, but I can do it like it's nothing, watch!

See there was this one Xbox One trailer showing all the voice commands and the Snap functions and the camera use for a Skype call and switching between everything and even recording and uploading gameplay, was an incredible trailer and if it actually worked that smoothly it would be awesome.

See, simple... try it, come on.
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joseph1111  +   296d ago
I always purchase both systems and based on this information, this will be the first time I purchase multiplatform games on the PS4. I just hope the online is as good as the Xbox live is and Sony will be on fire!!
dmitrijs88  +   296d ago
SO IT BEGINS...
HeroReborn  +   296d ago
I think it's the esram thats causing this hiccup. The unified gddr5 can not be contested and this in the beginning, shows why. My thought is as time goes on the playing field will level a bit more. Still all around we all win as gamers these numbers personal don't mean much more the experience coupled with services
walkincarpet  +   296d ago
that's strange that IW can't 1080p their cross gen game on X1. Makes me wonder what MS did to their console... still I'll take xbox live and the controller over PS4 and 1080p all day long.
cyclindk  +   295d ago
ESRAM :)

But seriously, I don't think that's it, not for CoD.... it really should go 1080p on just about anything.

So crazy
Xboxonefan27  +   296d ago
Good Luck with the PS4 over heating.
jocomat9  +   295d ago
LMAO your trying to hard or not hard enough. Look at your name. Smh
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AsimLeonheart  +   295d ago
Mobile device processors with integrated GPUs DO NOT heat up like discreet GPUs. The PS4 runs at 35 degree Celsius which is lower than PS3's 45 to 55 degree Celsius, you butthurt troll.

http://www.ign.com/articles...
cyclindk  +   295d ago
And twice (100%) more on CoD
Thegamer41  +   295d ago
This gen is going to be interesting. I always find it entertaining seeing Xbox fanboys making excuses, id like to see what they have to say when the gap widens in the future :)
mewhy32  +   295d ago
Well so it begins.
IRON883  +   295d ago
Sad sad day for the xbox one shot down before it even had a chance
FunkMacNasty  +   295d ago
Im actually really surprised about this! Given how ps3 was a bit more powerful than 360 this gen, yet it really was only the Sony exclusives that looked better graphically than other games... I figured devs would try to acheive parity between mutiplat release this gen as well, but i guess not!

Also, just because I'm not tech saavy and don't know the real difference, what will the graphical differences be between native 1080p and upscaled?
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SL1M DADDY  +   295d ago
This will be the first gen that I have chosen to go with only one console. I am glad that I have chosen the PS4. With the bad taste left in my mouth with the Xbox360 and the many failures that were virtually never addressed, the Xbox1 was the clear choice for what console to leave on the store shelves. This is only the icing ont he cake.
GW212  +   295d ago
Well, I'm sorry to say that I just cancelled my X1 pre-order. I am and always have been an Xbox guy and I've done my best to go along with the BS in hopes it would all pull together. As of now, that doesn't look like it's going to happen any time soon. Maybe in the future I'll pick one up.

So, to that end, can someone tell me where I can still pre-order a PS4? There must be some still floating around out there somewhere.
MMEHTA  +   296d ago
Well that sucks, but kinda expected since all the development issues......Hopefully the dev's will get more familiar by next year and develop more native 1080p games.....
BeardedPriest  +   296d ago
PS4 MASTER RACE!!!

KZ:SF will be better anyway...
FITgamer  +   296d ago
I prefer PS4, but this "Master Race" BS needs to stop. I don't want be associated with PC "Master Race" guys.
xHeavYx  +   296d ago
I'm pretty sure he is joking, he is a silly banana
PixelNinja  +   296d ago
PC MUSTARD RICE!
JonnyBigBoss  +   296d ago
If you want to be like that...

PC MASTER RACE.
vigilante_man  +   296d ago
Would that be dual-core PCs with basic GPUs or are you talking expensive setups? But I get your point..
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   296d ago
This game looks terrible, even in crystal clear 1080p native on PS4.

Upscaled from 720p must look like blurry, jaggy, hideous mess.My god.
PixelNinja  +   296d ago
Those Jaggies, I feel like one is going to come out of the screen and stab me lol.
LonDonE  +   296d ago
@PixelNinja made me lol so hard a bubble for u good sir!
Campy da Camper  +   296d ago
And what really sucks is it can stab you from across the map.
MasterCornholio  +   296d ago
Another CBOAT rumor confirmed.

Wow that leaker has been spot on with the rumors lately

Well I guess I can add this to my list of multiplat victories.

Edit: I made a mistake the rumors came from thurway not CBOAT

PS4: 3
Xbox One: 0
Tie: 0

P.S in case your wondering where the third came from its Need for Speed.

Nexus 7 2013
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Septic  +   296d ago
"Another CBOAT rumor confirmed.

Wow that leaker has been spot on with the rumors. "

Didn't he say Titanfall was coming for the PS4??
famoussasjohn  +   296d ago
He did say that, though he did not say which one Titanfall. :P There's a high possibility for a sequel and being on the PS4.
majiebeast  +   296d ago
He said it was timed exclusive and if you looked at the reaction Vince Zampella gave on twitter yesterday. That was the original deal before EA made the exclusive deal behind Respawns back.

I love how Vince can just say whatever the F he wants on twitter even just criticizing his publisher. Just because Microsoft and EA need him more then he needs them.
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torchic  +   296d ago
judging from Zampella's reaction, Titanfall was coming to PS4 as far as he was concerned.

Microsoft must've secured a deal in recent weeks.
Xsilver  +   296d ago
http://www.spawnfirst.com/n... actually titanfall was a timed exclusive until recently so yeah it was coming to PS4 they were right but MS took it.
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Septic  +   296d ago
@torhic and Xsilver

Yeah I agree but that means that Respawn hadn't even begun working on the PS4 port.
WeaseL  +   296d ago
My guess is MS panicked because if a PS4 version was made and it ran @1080p it would have made them look foolish with all the cloud talk.
torchic  +   296d ago
@septic

they most probably had something playable and very unoptimised on PS4 since they have PS4 dev kits (again decoding Zampella's tweets). in any case we've all heard of how easy it is to run PC code on PS4.

I mean at the end of the day they are a multiplatform dev. they probably have Wii U kits as well.
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majiebeast  +   296d ago
This deal only benefitted EA and Microsoft while Respawn got screwed over. Respawn gets money for sales of the game and seeing as the game isnt coming to ps4 and probably ps3 thats a lot of money lost. Plus they wont see a single penny of the recent deal between EA and Microsoft.
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Deltaguy  +   296d ago
It was coming to ps4 but, Microsoft had them duffle bags though...
kingPoS  +   296d ago
@torchic

Microsoft generally buys exclusive games while Sony generally has them made.

Tis thy truth.
Kayant  +   296d ago
No that was from famousmortimer & thuway.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
MasterCornholio  +   296d ago
Thank you for correcting me. I get confused between leakers all the time.

Nexus 7 2013
pyramidshead  +   296d ago
Cboat did step in to confirm it as well actually at some point when he directly replied to Albert Penello in a thread once stating that "he already knows the resolution", but some don't really take CBOAT's word as gospel as they think he has an agenda.

It was just confirmation after confirmation.
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Loki86  +   296d ago
Like TitanFall's exclusivity, Mirror's Edge being exclusive, X1 not removing DRM, ect..

He has gotten alot wrong in the last year.
PlayStation_4  +   296d ago
all these were likely talked about in internal discussions, and they decided to change their minds
True_Samurai  +   296d ago
Actually it's
PS4: 3
Xbox: 2
Tie

TF not going to PS4 & Drive Club being delayed but not X1's racer F5

I see I've angered some people :3

↓↓ PS4's racer isn't ready for launch but X1's is. Hahah I never said F5 was or is going to be on the PS4 XD I'm just playing the score game with you

@Olger awww :-3 I see you're taking this a tad too serious. Calm down
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MasterCornholio  +   296d ago
I said multiplats. Jeez unless you have proof that Forza 5 is on the PS4.

Nexus 7 2013
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scott182  +   296d ago
I am pretty sure they could release Drive Club now and have the best racer on the market, them wanting to perfect it makes me want it even more. Can't wait until it gets released!
Xsilver  +   296d ago
O.O damn what are the other CBOAT rumors?
Edit: @Majin damnnnn well i guess titanfall resolution will go up it launches next year but the OS the console launches next month woah xbox fans better hope that one isn't true.
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majiebeast  +   296d ago
Titanfall will be 720P on Xbone and the xbone OS is unstable as hell.
RandomDude655  +   296d ago
An ass-storm is coming too apparently
He called MS's E3 90% correct too.
otakukidd  +   296d ago
Cboat was still right. The developer tweeted yesterday saying it was a year exclusive and Microsoft made a deal only recently. Cboat was talking about a timed exclusive before e3.
Bennibop  +   296d ago
Ea might have to say that it is a lifetime exclusive as part of the agreement with Microsoft or risk costing themselves a fortune for breach of contract! I don't believe we have heard the last about titanfall ps4, find hard to believe ea would invest in development and then pull the plug., I think it's more of a case of double bluff.
otakukidd  +   296d ago
we can always hope for titanfall: sigma.
AnteCash  +   296d ago
By now every1 shoul know CBOAT is Agent Phil.
TIER1xWOLFPACKx  +   296d ago
Secret agent Phil
DEEBO  +   296d ago
Now that's funny!
KwietStorm  +   296d ago
Your list of multiplat victories? Man this is depressing. I am ALL IN with PS4, but I'm feeling like the p in 1080p stands for politics. When did this hobby become such a mess hall peacock show?
TheTwelve  +   296d ago
At least give Xbox One a point for the Titanfall news. Alright, well it's on 360 and PC so maybe give it 1/3 of a point???
MasterCornholio  +   296d ago
If you look at the list its obviously about the technical prowness of multiplats on the Xbox One and PS4. Unless you want to include all the FTP games on the PS4 that are on PC as well plus indies.

Nexus 7 2013
TheTwelve  +   296d ago
I'm more or less joking, good man.
Soc5  +   295d ago
They should have used the money they spent on securing exclusivity, on building a better system
then they would get lots of points
AngelicIceDiamond  +   296d ago
@Master will he be right about this one? http://www.gamefaqs.com/boa...

Just out of curiosity.

Btw your fanboyism is showing hard.
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Qrphe  +   296d ago
>my list of multiplat victories.

The X1 being weaker than expected is not a victory to anyone. Since most devs kill probably support it, that means this generation will be held back a bit as far as what devs will optimize for.
kingxtreme81  +   296d ago
Buying both PS4 and XBO on day one so I have no dog in this fight, but I gotta say this is going to get ugly.

*hides*
s8anicslayer  +   296d ago
I preordered and payed for both as well, but news like this makes my choice for multiplat a lot easier.
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jocomat9  +   295d ago
save your money from the xbone and buy more games for ps4. ehh?
Kayant  +   296d ago
Neogaf restored again loool... Now I wonder how much of the other info from the *insiders* are correct.
Sarobi  +   296d ago
#TeamCboat
Statix  +   296d ago
Good to see a developer being more forthcoming with actual facts and information than some companies (i.e., Activision or Microsoft).
s8anicslayer  +   296d ago
I think activision is a little upset about the Titanfall deal.
Statix  +   296d ago
Hmm, you and I can joke, but Activision really has been loyal partners with Microsoft for many years now. For Microsoft to literally be supporting Activision and Call of Duty's DIRECT COMPETITION (i.e., EA's Titanfall and Battlefield), one must logically assume that Activision can't be totally happy about that.

I started getting suspicious when Microsoft, for the first time in years, allowed EA's Battlefield and Titanfall to be shown at their E3 press conference, instead of Activision's COD. Call of Duty has been demonstrated live on Microsoft's mainstage for years now; it's become a perennial expectation for E3. But not this year, for some reason.

I can imagine, if I were an employee at Activision and am hearing about all these deals Microsoft is doing with EA, I would be exclaiming something along the lines of, "Wtf? We've been loyal partners with Microsoft and supporters of Xbox for almost a decade, and they pay us back by promoting all of our rival's triple-A FPS titles?"
Brix90  +   296d ago
Think thats why Activision slapped MS in the face with exclusive content to PS4 for Destiny made by the Halo creators lol...
Loki86  +   296d ago
This clearly has to do with IW not having enough time with the eSRAM, it is sad that this is the best that they could do. Oh well, I have been done with CoD since MW2.
mistertwoturbo  +   296d ago
No it has nothing to do with that. The whole esram thing is the same as the xbox 360 and what did people say about the 360? That it's easy to develop for. It's just the fact is that the x1 gpu just isn't that great with only 1.3tflops and bottlenecks itself with ddr3
Loki86  +   296d ago
You clearly know nothing, it has to with the fact that 3rd party devs just got the kits last year and have not had enough time to work with eSRAM and the tools for the X1. It will get much better post-launch, look at a game like Ryse running at a stable framerate for proof.

EDIT: 360 had 10MB of eDRAM which was not enough that it would cause a huge development problem even at launch.
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mistertwoturbo  +   296d ago
Clearly know nothing? lol

I know well enough that it's complete BS to try and spin it as being hard to develop for. PURE SPECS alone dictates from the beginning the PS4 not only has a more powerful GPU (which is needed for HIGHER RESOLUTIONS) on top of having GDDR5 in which has been used for GPU's since god knows what 2007?

It's ZERO SURPRISE that the X1 can't output at a higher resolution being bottle-necked by that measly 32mb and slower DDR3, AND a weaker GPU.

What's so hard to understand? There's no magic sauce or fairy dust that will add compute units to the X1's GPU.

It's gimped at the hardware level. Accept it already.
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Elit3Nick  +   296d ago
you can tell that the game is heavily unoptimised judging from the abnormally high pc requirements. I'm really not surprised that this rumor was confirmed, I'm a little disappointed, but this is more development issues than anything else
PR_FROM_OHIO  +   296d ago
Not shocked by this everyone knows the PS4 is more powerful! But imagine the difference in games when SONY's first party devs start getting a feel for the PS4 in a few years. What a scary thought lol
vigilante_man  +   296d ago
You say scary, I say woooaaaahhhhhh - cannot wait!
TKCMuzzer  +   296d ago
I am a bit surprised, considering how much more is going on in BF4, including player count. Would have thought 1080p would have been achievable on both.
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fullymoated  +   296d ago
It's early tech, they got the dev kits much later than the PS4 dev kits, and the X1 ESRAM is harder to work with. You are correct, if BF4 can hit 720p/60 then CoD can do much better.

Don't believe the N4G hype - go read some other sites and X1 is doing just fine. And Mark said both versions are looking great! Sounds good to me! =)
boneso82  +   296d ago
Hype? This isn't hype, it's cold hard facts from the developers mouth... There is no belief needed for facts, they are facts. 1080p > 720p, fact!

I'm sure xbone is doing just fine, just not as fine as PS4, clearly.
R0n0rve  +   296d ago
Wow... This is quite surprising. I understand the Battlefeld situation but Call of Duty? I mean, the game really doesn't look too graphically demanding at all. Ryse looks 100x better than COD and that still manages to run at 900p. This is ridiculous.
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No_Limit  +   296d ago | Intelligent
Damn, after all these bad news, I am officially cancelling my XB1 and am getting a PS4 with Killzone SF, NBA 2K14, and Battlefield 4 at launch. Even if I am going to missed games like Forza 5, Killer Instinct, Project Spark,and Titanfall, there is no excuse for MS (being as rich as they are) purposely gimping the X360 successor and charging more than the competition. I am done with Xbox as a brand. WTF MS??? I heart is broken now but at least there is an alternative in the PS4 that I can be looking forward to now that the cat has come out of the bag regarding specs.
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EXVirtual  +   296d ago
You're trolling, aren't you? I'm getting the PS4, but from the posts that I've seen, you favor the XBO. Plus, Titanfalls on the 360 and PC
OT: I'm not surprised by the resolution that the PS4 version is at, but what the hell happened with the XBO?
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No_Limit  +   296d ago
Fanboy, PLEASE!!!

WTF does my previous posts in favor of the XB1 has to do with my decision now? I haven't post on N4G for months and was dead set on getting a XB1 thinking that games like Battlefield 4, COD Ghost would be similar in performance in addition of the XB1 having the launch games that I want. Now, seeing that the disparity that is so one sided in favor of the PS4, I can't justify of what MS is doing charging $100 more for a weaker system, even with the inclusion of Kinect 2.0.

90% of my games are all third party games and I have most of them for X360 this generation because it performs better; thus, that is one of the huge reason I like the X360 more than the PS3.

I was dead set on getting a XB1 thinking the performance would be close but it is clearly not the case now. There is no way I can justify paying for a system that can't even handle COD (which looks like crap) at 1080P. There is just no excuse.
Sevir  +   296d ago
No_Limit! I'm clutching pearls right now after reading that from you!!! This is a first i'm reading something like this from anyone. No one here has ever admitted that they are changing camps after being dead set on one platforms. that's crazy! On N4G you're actually one of the first to defect to PS like this and not being afraid to admit it! Bubs for the honesty.
PlayStation_4  +   296d ago
Project Spark & Titanfall are both on 360/PC... you're not missing out on very much.
FITgamer  +   296d ago
Wait..did someone hack No_Limit's account? This can't be real.
iceman06  +   296d ago
Gotta be trolling....HARD!!!
torchic  +   296d ago
wow, you used to be the most hardcore of all hardcore Xbox fans.
bjmartynhak  +   296d ago
Well... hopefully one day devs will overcome the ESRAM with better dev tools. But inferior specs will keep inferior all gen.

Down the line you can get a XB1 with a price cut for a Halo/Forza fix. That's my plan at least.

(and really surprising to see you saying it... it even sounds trolling, lol)
Sarobi  +   296d ago
You aren't alone.
Themba76  +   296d ago
WHAT??? no limit cancelling x1 I know the sky is falling now.
No_Limit  +   296d ago
@Themba,

It wasn't my decision to cancel the XB1, MS made that decision for me over that past couple of months. First, it was Killer Instinct (everyone thought it was 1080P, then downgrade to 720P). Then it was Ryse @900P. News came out that Titanfall might be 720P instead of the promised 1080P, and finally, actual gameplays of Battlefield 4 and COD Ghost are the straws that broke the camel's back. I mean, it is one thing to to perform worst at low resolution but when the competing brand offer something that performs 50% or more better at $100 less, it is not a contest. MS should now really consider selling a Kinect-less SKUY for $299 because the spec that is inside the XB1 is ancient hardware, man. They are not Apple that can get away with robbery like this.

After 8 long years of favoring the Xbox brand over the PS brand, I am heading back home to the PS brand like it was before. Luckily, I already had my PS4 reserved at Best Buy a long time ago for the just in case scenario and I am glad I did.
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amnalehu  +   296d ago
Some bad choices were made with their choice in hardware. esram is choking everything out and I don't think there is any patch that will address this issue. It is a hardware problem. I also am no longer pre-ordering the X1, not so much because of this but more because they have known that this is going to be an issue and tried to hide it from everyone until the money was spent and the base all had their systems in house. It's also coming out that all of the UI footage that we have seen has been faked. They are hoping that the masses are under informed. I think the funniest thing that no one has mentioned is that the the Xbox one and the Xbox 360 version of Ghost will essentially be the exact same game, same engine and same resolution. Welcome to next gen! yeah right. See you on the PSN!
esemce  +   296d ago
If you want Fable, Forza, Halo, Kinect and timed (payed for) exclusives choose MS.

If you want REAL exclusives from 1st party devs with a focus mainly on games that would be supported for longer and Naughty Dog choose Sony.

For me it's simple as the only console to have GT, Killzone, Team Ico, GOW, Uncharted/TLOU will be from Sony and that's enough for me to make it essential.
Mkai28  +   296d ago
Very disappointing indeed, COD has or had more preorders on the X1. It pisses me off to that they have that much money but chose a weak GPU so they can make a profit on day one. Cancel you preorders ppl, they need to be punished..
Kujii  +   296d ago
Wow. For the first time in the comments section when I read "pre-order canceled" I know people actually mean it.
boneso82  +   296d ago
Well done no_limit, for having the common sense to choose the better value, more powerful console, and the balls to admit, on N4G no less, that you have changed your mind after months of Xbox allegiance.

If only you could get through to some of the Xbox lovers on here that are still in denial and making excuse after excuse to defend the company and console they unconditionally yet irrationally love. I don't get it, I really really don't get it. How can anyone be so stubborn, so hard headed, so completely blind as to not see what you now see, and that a lot of us already have seen.

Welcome back to the darkside, good for you!
Clarence  +   296d ago
Who are you?
No_Limit  +   296d ago
"I am your father" [in Darth Vader, heavy breathing voice]
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RiPPn  +   296d ago
Wow, can't believe what I'm reading. Well anyway welcome to the dark side No_Limit.
Onehandband1t  +   296d ago
O.........M.........G! That is all
BattleTorn  +   296d ago
This may sounds incredibly sad, but I think I am going to go (on Halloween night, early) to an Xbox One demo and tell every one of the PR guys that I am a diehard Xbox fan - and I am going to cancel, or sell unopened, my Xbox One.

And I am going to be very clear - that it is because Microsoft doesn't care for gamers.

I know they'll refute that, but I will say "if they truly did, they'd have made hardware capable of parity"

IT CANT ACHIEVE PARITY - I'm jumping ship.
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vigilante_man  +   296d ago
After the PS4 reveal in feb I was sure MS would come out with something amazing. The first few minutes in I got excited about the "Turn on this.." voice stuff but it went downhill from there.

But there is a silver lining for all die hard Microsoft fans. If they actually stick to their word and follow Sony's lead with pushing and supporting their studios this time around, instead of closing them all and splashing out on exclusive deals, we may see some amazing games further down the line.

Price cuts, great games and no Kinnect may even bring in the Sony fans. We do all love great games, after all!!
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jatakk  +   296d ago
Wow... this is sad! Really shocked they can't squeeze out more on the xbone.
DarkLordMalik   296d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(1)
sourav93  +   296d ago
Why isn't CoD at least 900p on the Xbone? With BF4, both versions run at 60fps; 900p for PS4 and 720p for Xbone. So for ghosts, the discrepancies should have stayed constant i.e. 60fps with 1080p on PS4 and 900p on Xbone. It's surprising that it's not the case. It's evident that the ps4 is the stronger hardware, but I'm just wondering if there is some lazy coding at play here as well. Anyways, can't wait for the 29th. Greatness Awaits.
KodevEx  +   295d ago
Maybe the Xbox1 isn't stable to handle it? It was originally a 2014 release after all.
Deep-throat  +   296d ago
Megaton.

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooom
BattleTorn  +   296d ago
Fuck Xbox. Fuck Xbox. Fuck Xbox.

Check my comment history to see what how much saying this means to me.

:( :'( :"(
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T2  +   296d ago
Well if you have a 1080p Plasma sitting in your living room ..... Whatcho gonna do ?
BattleTorn  +   296d ago
@joecanada

I seriously don't know. I have both systems pre-ordered.

I've been flip flopping on which to cancel soo much, I kinda just wanna cancel both.

I'm still playing GTAV constantly.
NaAsAr  +   296d ago
COD on 360 was upscaled to 1080 and it looked and performed better than the ps3.

just sayin' though.
vividi  +   296d ago
It is common knowledge that the ps3 COD were the bad ports, seems like things are changing for next gen
NaAsAr  +   296d ago
agreed. i was just stating an observation.
esemce  +   296d ago
When it comes to many 3rd party titles the PS4/XB1 will be essentially getting ports of the PC code. So whichever console has the most raw power and is easy the dev on will probably get the better version.

So take Watchdogs:

PC>PS4>XB1>WiiU simples.
Idba  +   296d ago
But now the ps4 version is native 1080p
amnalehu  +   296d ago
The irony is that COD Ghost on 360 will probably perform as good and look as good as the xbox one version.
Back-to-Back  +   296d ago
And cod on 360 looks dated so what your point?
dethpuck  +   296d ago
Cool can we move on now. Who is buying cod anyway?
joe90  +   296d ago
probably around 15 million people.
sigfredod  +   296d ago
Unfortunately millions
IHassounah  +   296d ago
People saying Xbox One can't get 1080p ? then just go and see Metal Gear Solid V gameplay , it looks better than CoD and still runs identical on both the PS4 and the Xbox One , I would even say 100% , it's just a matter of how lazy Infinity Ward is

* Disagree all you want but I will inform everyone that both consoles are the same , it's just a matter of how lazy a developer is
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Angels3785  +   296d ago
In all honesty we have to wait for the technical details of mgs to be released...because they haven't said what either will be running at.
Enemy  +   296d ago
Lol wait till MGSV gets downgraded on Xbone next. It's happening with every Xbone game.
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GrandpaSnake  +   296d ago
do not slander kojimas name, when we get more info on mgs5 because of this whole 720p debacle, pretty sure people will start to tweet kojima questions regarding this matter. If you know anything about metal gear you would now that playstation is the baby's daddy and chances are the playstation version will be superior.
IHassounah  +   296d ago
I still think Kojima and his team made a great job and weren't lazy
C-H-E-F  +   296d ago
Do you truly believe that Kojima will nerf MGSV in its entirety for the likes of the Xbox? Idk if you've noticed but with every version of MGS, Kojima pushes the engine he uses so much that with the next iteration of MGS he has to create a BRAND NEW game engine. With that being said the PS4 has 50% more power graphically and you think he will lay off of that? Kojima is a perfectionist you better be grateful if he doesn't cancel the xox version because it can't look like he imagined it would.
bromtown  +   296d ago
What I don't get is Microsoft have been the ones touting the possibility of future 4K gaming on it's console, whereas Sony have just said "Maybe, but unlikely - we'll see" and MS can't even get a multi generation Call of Duty game to run in native 1080p!

If this disparity isn't just down to the Xbox's supposedly (at the moment)inferior dev tools then they are pretty screwed.
ambientFLIER  +   296d ago
I have no doubt there will be 4K games on the xbox. Simple, downloadable ones. For example, geometry wars 2 is native 1080p/60fps on the xbox 360 (and looks stunning). I don't think the xbox one will struggle much to play that game at 4K/30fps.
Deathdeliverer  +   295d ago
Isn't forza supposed to be 4k? They have 4 k pictures up.
Baltar  +   296d ago
And thats the pre-order star from Microsoft, i wonder if consumers who bought/will buy both systems will trade their COD pre-orders based on this..
pabadamus1  +   296d ago
Oh boy! Well...we all know that both versions of the game will sell well and people will enjoy themselves. Ultimately that is what counts. If this iteration has a good single player and reviews well I will pick it up. Otherwise it will solely be Battlefield and Killzone come the 15th.
SmokingMonkey  +   296d ago
This took way to long to confirm.

Lot's of face lost, both Microsoft and Activision.
EXVirtual  +   296d ago
Well, I knew this would get confirmed sooner rather than later.
2 things.
1. How in the name of hell could the XBO version be 720p? It should be running at 900p native at LEAST. Ryse is and it's much more demanding.
2. This basically debunks RTU's 'sources' about the PS4 version of COD ghosts running at 720p.
If we're already seeing this much of a gap in power at launch, then I can't imagine what it'll be like in a few years.
Just check NeoGAF, they're already on meltdown.
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Neonridr  +   296d ago
1. I imagine it has to do with CoD being 60fps and Ryse is probably only 30fps.
IHassounah  +   296d ago
Then explain Forza 5 ?
Neonridr  +   296d ago
1st party vs 3rd party. 1st parties always know how to push their systems more??

I have no clue honestly. Just offering up a valid reason as to the increase in resolution due to a decrease in fps.
Enemy  +   296d ago
@ Hassounah: It's a racing game with static environments and baked lighting. There's your 60fps. Wake me up when Forza finally gets dynamic lighting, night racing, real rendered clouds, and real rendered environments.
Faztkiller  +   296d ago
Forza 5 doesn't look much better than Forza 4 Heck GT5 was running close to 1080p 60fps on PS3