The upcoming release of both GTA IV and Wii Fit show the gap between different types of gaming is growing fast: DarkZero argues that it might be time for serious gamers to give up hope for the Wii...
I can't see Wii Fit topping the charts once both games are on shelves. Maybe a month or two down the line Wii Fit might keep going strong, but for the first month of sales I see GTA IV being the winner in terms of units sold
blah blah blah. Write a pointless article get a pointless comment on it ^^ focus on one game will you okay then I think once Singstar is released I think Sony is waving goodbye to gamers and seeing that Scene It is out for the 360 I think MS waved goodbye to the gamer as well. Yup all the console makers have waved goodbye to the gamer. Sad day it is.....
Haha, hell no! Sony and MS releasing Singstar and Scene It! Are their attempts to gain a piece of the Nintendo pie, which will both be in vain.
Granted but seeing that all he is focusing in on is one game why can't I? Everyone says DS only has Nintendodogs well then PSP only has Lumines right? Wii only has WiiFit coming out so I guess 360 only has Viva Pinata and PS3 only has the Loco Roco downloadable game. See how ridiculous I sound? GTAIV is going to sell amazing and WiiFit will sell too. Both won't even hamper each other too so big sales for all. Just because WiiFit is hardly a game it doesn't stop games like Fatal Frame, Monster Hunter 3, Crisis Day of Disaster, Deadly Creatures, and Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles from being released on the Wii. Just like we all know because MS and Sony release Scene It and Singstar that doesn't stop all the other games they release.
It doesn't say that they just have one game though- it just points out how vastly split the market has become in the fact that two AAA games can be released which are absolutely no competition to each other.
All this article is showing is that the author isn't looking into Wii games. I just listed some that he probably doesn't even know they are coming out to the Wii. It's call perception and so many people have a clouded view of the Wii. They only see Cooking Mamma and WiiFit they don't see the others. Gamers can look forward to Wii games seeing that the Wii does have games other than Wario Ware and Carnival Games. You just have to look at the Wii news like you do with the 360 and PS3. edit: but you are right that there is a split that two big games can be released side by side with no ill effect. That's kind of a good thing for the industry seeing that it'll bring in more money then just one big named game ^^ and thanks for the help BrotherNick ;) I hate spelling never ask me to play scrabble >< lol
Let's not forget both Singstar and EyeToy were released on PS2 a few years before Nintendo took this new route with their games!
Yeah it's true, that was when Sony had a pretty large chunk of the casual market- something they've now lost!
"Yeah it's true, that was when Sony had a pretty large chunk of the casual market- something they've now lost!" so what if they have? the point zdonit was making is that singstar is in no way an attempt by sony to copy anything nintendo is doin as it was an established franchise far before wii was a twinkle in nintendos eye.
"2008: Nintendo Waves Goodbye to Gamers" "DarkZero argues that it might be time for serious gamers to give up hope for the Wii... " ...call me stupid but i dont see the connection XD and no i didnt read the article it must be about this"I KNOW IT ALL"( but infact didnt do much research) guy so his opinion is useless anyway =D. ""DarkZero argues that it might be time for serious gamers to give up hope for the Wii... " WHAT HOPE BTW? i bought the Wii as a Gaming system...like i said i didnt read the article but really....hes tlaking about "GFX" and stuff like that? MEH! Lost Winds looks awesome....just saying XD
well i don't think its so much about the graphics but the games wii won't be getting a lot of the multiplat games of ps3/360. but i didn't read it all. im biased towards wii i won't be buying one but im not going to put the system down it does have some fun games to play and i wouldn't mind playing some of them.
The only reason Wii Software sells are so high is because their hardware sales are too. Now their "attache rate" on the other hand is actually low compared to 360 and PS3. And I'm sorry, but you can only remake SSMB and Mario so many times until they get stale. The Metroid series is also pretty crappy. Even the new Zelda game wasn't that great - i got 3/4 of the way through the gamecube version and just stopped playing.
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Wii consoles sales to date are 24 million. Software to date is 123 million. Now this might be hard for you but if you divide 123 million by 24 million you will see the Wii attach rate is just fine. BTW those are using actually NPD figures. I dont know where you got your info about the poor attach rate but I'll bet anything there is not a single bit of proof to back that claim up... Also FYI, 360 is ahead of the Wii still in sales in the US, yet some how the Wii has managed to sale just as much software as the 360 in the US even with being behind by 1 million console.. NPD will confirm my post.
the last time I checked the wii had a higher attach rate than the ps3 except in one particular article. And the wii also sells more software than the 360 at this point. Hardcore games tend to sell well too despite a total lack of advertisements. Zack and wiki and overlooked gem with "kiddy" art style that's quite pretty but a fairly hard puzzle game. Its a AAA wii title and it sold 300,00 copies. The resident evil games have sold more than a million each. And btw the ps2 has about 3-4 ratchet and clank games and they aren't that different from one another, I owned a ps2 I would know. And it was anew franchise i think that's milking a franchise. Mario on th eother hand has one game a generation and zelda has 2 . metroid is variable. They aren't rehashes they all feature new dungeons and are a delight to play. If bright colors make you think a game is childish I pity you and ask you teally understand what gaming's about. Its no what 12 and 14 year old teenage boys make it out to be. I used to think gamers were a brotherhood true there were rivalries amongst consoles but everyone could appreciate their rival console. Somehow that feeling's gone. Perhaps having some new blood will actually change that.
This article is actually not far from the truth, for those that actually read it. Consider 2 markets: one focused on violent and mature rated games, one focused on younger and casual players. Each console has some games in each market but the ratio differs. The PS3\360 are focused more on the violent\mature games and the Wii is focused more on younger\casual games. What I think the author is trying to say is that if someone bought a Wii and only a Wii and expects to play a lot of violent\mature games, they will be disappointed. I think this is true but in reality Nintendo has been very upfront about the marketing of their Wii has being for younger\casual gamers. So for those that feel misleaded or let down, it's kind of really their own fault. Of course, if your tastes range from the casual to the mature, then the best option is to get more than just one console if you can afford it.
I dont see what person would think to buy a nitnendo system and expect a wealth of mature games. It does have a fair amount but it will never compair to 360/PS3. I just dont see how he brings up a Nintendo game which was never aimed at the hardcore market which comes out close to 3 weeks after GTAIV and says all is lost. Nintendo is releasing another big game the same damn week as GTAIV and its a brilliant move on their part. Mario Kart isnt gonna touch the sales of GTAIV just like GTA wont touch its sales. The hardcore nintendo fans are gonna buy it regardless if they are caught up in GTA or not while all the parents trying to not have their kids play GTA are gonna flock to mariokart. Also when talking about the wii he mentions mario kart and smash when talking about the wii mote while kart can and will by a lot of people be played with the wiimote Im sure most are gonna use the cube controller. Why not mention MP3, WarioWare or any number of games that actually try and inhance the gameplay with motion cntrols. As for the person above attacking Nintendo for just releasing the same games. Your retarded, Nintendo releases them because people want them. Not to mention but your using that comment when the article is talking bout GTAIV and Wii Fit. hmmm which one is a sequel? People need to head up their asses about companies if they are gonna attack Nintendo for releasing sequels. What are all the big games from this gen? Most are not brand new games. Halo3, GTAIV, GT5, MGS4, CoD4, RE5, FFXIII and so on.(those games will all sell millions) Yes there are new games, but for the most part the big sellers are all sequels.
Last time I checked the console with the most hardcore games of Nintendo was the GC. YEt we all now how the hardcore crowd ignored Nintendo last gen. Now this gen they want more hardcore games yet when Nintendo actually offered thme they wanted nothing to do with it..Also I think the Wii has more M rated games right now than PS3.
"I dont see what person would think to buy a nitnendo system and expect a wealth of mature games. It does have a fair amount but it will never compair to 360/PS3." Very true. Just like most families with gaming children under the age of 12 would buy a 360 and expect it to have much family friendly content.
Though it should be noted, that some people (like me) bought a wii for the games it offers and not for shooters. That is what the PC is for... And about the article, Nintendo is not waving good-bye to gamers. It is turning non-gamers into gamers!
I think a lot of people have presumed me to be biased, I must make it clear that this is analysis of the market as a whole and not my personal opinion. I should also make it clear that I have no personal affinity for either type of gaming.
forum_crawler - "Nintendo is not waving good-bye to gamers. It is turning non-gamers into gamers!" I don't speak for everyone, but they waved goodbye to me. I've been a Nintendo fanboy all my life and have owned all their home consoles and I've never owned a Sony... ...until now. Sold the Wii on ebay, and bought a PS3. Apart from Zelda and Galaxy, I really didn't enjoy the Wii much at all. Especially when I saw what my friends were playing on 360 and PS3. I still monitor all the Wii games coming out, as I'm a big Mario and Zelda fan, but I don't think I'll be picking up a new Nintendo until the next generation and they (hopefully) improve their hardware. I just hope they make the next Zelda something special for their next console and not bother making the next one for Wii. 3 gamecube Zeldas are too much.
Gamers play on 360 and PS3. Wii is a waste of time. HA HA HA HA!
The Wii is a waste of a good portion of everyone's space-time continuum.
Yeah most people will buy GTA IV whether PS3 or 360, and probably play it for a long time. However, he forgot that PS3 owners are going to flock to buy MGS4, beat that, and then probably continue GTA IV. I know I am.
WiiFit.. I cant beleive its actually going to sell. i dont see how its fun to stand of a schale! but i guess the Dance Dance Rev style game is going to be fun.. even though it only has 2 mats.
I gave up on Nintendo when they changed the Nintendo Revolution, to the Nintendo Wii.
I am just a a little shocked at your comment, you actually gave up on an elite gaming company (its elite because of the games it makes because even if their games are rehashes which i don't agree with they are really good) I am not a nintendo fanboy I owned a ps2 last gen and it broke (sniff0 and an n64 before that. I think you're a little pathetic for saying that. I am not trying to be offencisve and I do apologize.
and yet I'd rather get Wiifit over GTA4 and I really don't want to get Wiifit.... None of them appeal to me and yet both will sell millions..... But I wouldn't say GTA4 was more hardcore any, it's a pretty casual, pick-up and play game....
Your both fuking losers.
the sony fans are really trying too hard.. Its become a little too obvious
unless you're a loser without the slightest bit of talent on a real instrument, you don't shell out more than sixty bucks for a vg. wii fit won't sell becaue of its price and not because of its quality. besides how much of a gamer can you be if you think that new peripherals are lame and once again the same formula of bang bang make money ride car. oh wait that's the same reasoning people have against nintendo when it comes to mario and zelda games, and yet they aren't playing anything better. nintendo tries something new and everyone suddenly says that's not gaming. people need to seriously think of what they want.
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