A screenshot comparison between the new build of “Killzone: Shadow Fall” and the original gameplay reveal from the Playstation Meeting event in February.
I'm getting a Goldeneye for N64 vibe from the gameplay vids, which I still consider one of the greatest FPS games I've played. Really excited for Shadow Fall.
Thats what ive been thinking. And that hostage level reminds me of the perfect dark mission where you infiltrate the villa in the port. Looking forward to this is an understatement
It literally seems like the author took a screen shot of a youtube video... Taking a picture of decompressed video for comparison is laughable..
That what I said LOL! And I got disagrees for describing it as Deus Ex: Shadowfall and Perfect Dark: Shadowfall.
Umm... go back and look at the third comparison with the big explosion. It is VERY evident that the lower quality in the new version is NOT due to your unfounded claim that the new pics are "a picture of decompressed video". The new scene looks like CRAP. It's like they darkened much of the game to hide the the much lower texture quality. Instead of being in denial and while frantically attempting to find anyone other than Sony to blame, you should direct your frustration at those who misrepresented their product in order to increase sales. Some of you sony fanboys remind me of these Obama-drones who are now so happy to have "affordable" health care, even though they're now paying 2x as much for worse coverage (mine went from $115/mo to $265/mo) and my deductible going from $500 to $2500. Its hilarious because they keep trying to blame Bush, or Conservatives. lol. Obama owns this trainwreck just like Sony owns this. I wonder who is going to get their heads out of their a$$e$ first, Obama-Drones or Sony-Drones. lol.
what a ridiculous article.. Shadow Fall in just a month time!! i am so hyped i want this game
I personally think KZ, Shadowfall looks damn good1 It is just a shame it lacks real dedicated servers for multiplayer, and you have to settle for P2P. There is nothing worse than lag!
Wrong place for ACA/Obama-care debate...
Ryse fanboys don't want you to be excited for Shadow Fall lol
and shadow fail fanboys like you dont like people to be excited about ryse...those in glass houses bro... Killzone Shadow fall disagrees. That game looks better than Ryse and runs at 1080p WITH higher frame rates. That's not to mention how all the other developers are saying the PS4 is more powerful, even former Gears of War developer. No need for damage control Crytek, it is what it is. #50 27d ago by brometheos sony fans love to play down ryse and claim its been downgraded, if they removed polys and made no other improvements then yes thats a downgrade, but they improved texture detail, cloth physics etc, thats called OPTIMIZING! something crytec gets accused of being bad at alot, but in ryse compare pics, it clearly pays off.
as i always say KZ games looks and plays awesome but the story is meh and multiplayer is a normal multiplayer nothing special its better than COD off course but not as BF or halo or even titanfall and comparing a hack-slash game to a FPS games is the peek of fanboys retardation
You know, I was thinking, it reminds me of the originalperfect dark
Given that the screenshots were compressed and of low resolution to begin with other than some color palette changes I can't tell a difference.
are these real, which is the newer build. one looks good on each pic, the other looks horribly downgraded. the picture with the 2 things hovering , i see no differene in that one
I think the newer build would be the images that have the word 'new' imprinted on the upper right corner.
you can see why he has two bubs lol, the game is looking really, really good. i'm excited to play it.
Downgrade? I don't think so. The lightning have changed a lot, which you can see in the explosion images I've extracted from the latest story trailer. It's very detailed. http://sibbor.nu/index.php?...
90 percent of the difference is lighting... some of the textures have been changed a bit, but it's nothing really that huge of a difference... technologically anyway... lighting can make or break something though and it's clearly better... though the explosion maybe a can go either way
I think they should have made the pictures a little smaller so one could better see the differences. I mean 1080p game and 338p images. I feel like I am seeing too much.
The whole industry needs to rethink how they are going to show next gen games. We need 1080p screens and 1080p video with no YouTube compression.
You get down voted for telling the truth not a surprise there then. It doesn't look quite as good as the old build but its still very good.
I've just read your past comments and you aren't telling the truth you pro-xbox fanboy, please get out. Don't be mad about CoD not even handling 1080p on Xbox One lol.
Just curious. What parts of those sub-480p poor quality images makes you say that?
Umm... do you need glasses or something? Because the new pictures are not nearly as sharp, textures are now muddy, and it seems they dumbed down the Ambient Occulsion quality which results shadows having less variation in tone, causing them to look very dark.
@ andrew, Do you realise that the pictures provided are at like 480p ? You cant tell anything from these pics other than the lightng change, the game runs at a higher resolution than these screens can show making it look muddy as you say. Use your brain man.
The whole point is that it actually looks better in the newer build. Whether or not these images do an adequate job portraying that is another story.
No it doesn't. The heavy shadowing is a lower quality ambient occulsion and clearly does a fine job of hiding the lower quality textures from those who don't want to see the truth. http://i1248.photobucket.co... Look at this image I just put together for you as an example. Look at the plant, the subtle shadowing on clothing, and how natural the lighting is on the lower image. The biggest tell is the tonal width in the shadowing. Notice how the old shots have softer edges on the shadows as well? Soft shadows take a ton of graphics power and would be the first thing that would be reduced if devs needed additional FPS.
Andrew, how can you see all those details with such low quality screens? Be real man post direct 1080p screens or gtfo.
@ AndrewLB: Thats the picture itself nitwit, I love how your so insecure about your crapbox One80 purchase your going to use blown up screen shots of already low rez images and claim that is the actual look of the game...... You have Obamacare now since you felt the need to bring that up in your other idiotic post, so please use it and actually go have your eyes check cause you clearly need it done if you think your "proof" helps your claim at all, again the blur is even worse since your using blown up pics of already low rez images
You need to learn truth vs. opinion. One really can't be argued, though some will always try, the other is completely subjective and up to scrutiny.
Then you need glasses because I don't see how this was a downgrade.
Definite downgrade. Had to lower effects to get 1080p even at 30fps. Why didn't they just make the next gen a bit more expensive and stick a great GPU in instead of an average one? Think everyone would have been happy to wait another year as well
Could someone please point out what they see as downgrades. I am willing to discuss this but I really can'T see any downgrades... at all.
It's downgraded for sure. At first Killzone was very detailed, not it looks even darker and saturated but muddied and less detailed. But we all knew this when it was told that Killzone was going to now require less GB to install when at first it was way higher. This may be the reason Sony doesn't want the PS4 reviewed until a day before it releases.
@Fun The hell are you saying? Are you referring to the fact that SF was, at first, a 200+ GB game that was compressed into 40-something?
Muddied and less detailed could be a result of freakin' 338p Images. Could you please point me to a detail which can objectively be compared instead of the general 'looks worse'? In one of the pictures there are more particles in the explosion in the newer build but apart from that there really isn't that much qualitative difference in either way visible in these images.
I think people are mistaking quality with brightness. A few things have been scaled down in terms of detail, yes. But, in terms of overall detail, there is quite a bit more implemented. Also, I'd be hard pressed if anyone could say that the new build screenshots look 2D. Although the old build looks shinier, it doesn't give you that sense of depth which I would argue is one of the most important factors in FPS's.
You are out of your mind if you think this; http://i.imgur.com/GgwDyEs.... is a downgrade.
Look how much sharper it looks now and the smoke effects and textures are significantly better. Not to mention the lighting has been toned down and looks more natural, you can now clearly make out the buildings lining the wall where as in the original build they were disguised by the lighting. That isn't realistic. I don't get the gaming community anymore. They see what they want to see as they want to fit it into their agenda. Why a single person who supposedly likes games would have an agenda I have no idea but they do. Fanboyism blinds people. It works on both sides. This isn't a downgrade.
It looks like they changed the time of day so that it is dusk which is the only thing I really notice. Hardly a downgrade. It looks superb to my eyes.
They really got me looking hard ashell at these pics to find a downgrade and still cant see it but those explosions on the new build looks amazing more vibrant.
the character models hands looks better now and it looks like they changed the color of the lighting, in the old build the bloom looks kinda oversaturated
you dont see a downgrade in that pic??
Thanks for clearing that up.
You can even make out the individual windows on the building to the right in the new build
No Krillin solar flare = Downgrade
Sorry man I like KZ But it does look like a downgrade. The lighting quality is lower. Not talking about the excessive bloom, but the reflections etc are lower quality
I think because it's not a bright and glaring some are assuming it is a downgrade. Everything looks much sharper and better to me... I love the new playthrough videos too, look so fantastic.
Alot of that actually has more detail when you look at it that way.....It's just the Xbots who are insecure thinking about doing One80s on their brand of choice
to be fair you can clearly see that it's unfinished... a untexured building and though they did cut back a little on some of the lighting effects I think that if it was a design decision to hit 1080p30 then that's fine
Then you'd have people who come and say it's too expensive.
DOWNGRADE? Im laughing at these xbox fans saying this! Who calls Fod a downgrade for added ambience!? You know what I call a downgrade. Dropping the poly count from 150K to 85K for all characters, dropping from 1080 30fps to 1600x900/900p to run at 30fps... and this is ALL after overclocks to CPU and GPU to gain "BALANCED" performance, which comes after the fact that RYSE was actually running on a PC that was more powerful than the upspeced Final XBOX ONE, let alone what was announced at the May 21st Event this year. Quit it already. KZ does more and looks better than RYSE with NO downgrades to game engine and upgrades to hardware needed!
What does Ryse have to do with killzone?
Everything to do with the topic of "downgrade"
It's an interesting instance, this. Here's the thing: it looks downgraded, because more shadowing was added to give a better sense of depth. As pictures, the old build would look better, but this being a moving and dynamic game, the shadows as it does improve quality as in most other games. Look up Ambient Occlusion. All in all, I don't think that screenshots do any of these games justice; if there is to a comparison, it should video clips of the game. Either way, I can't wait to play. And also concerning Ryse, we as a gaming community need to stop trying to raise an axe to comparably similar games. Ryse is, by no matter of opinion, a completely different type of game; from a technical standpoint, there is nothing that it has in similarity to KZ. If you want to compare KZ for fanboys-sake, compare it to another shooter like CoD of BF4. Oh, and (last thing, I promise) the term "downgrade" seems to be a hot word at the moment, but you also have to realize that optimization is selective downgrades that allow higher priority upgrades. It's a balancing act in many cases.
I don't know about another year but yeah I would have paid more.
It still looks good but looks like a bit if a downgrade from those pics.
We already know not to take ANYTHING you say about a Sony game serious. OT: A very nice UPgrade, indeed. Textures, lighting, environments. All of ahead of the Feb build.
one bub sony hater no surprise you would think that lol. the game looks great you need an eye checkup seriously.
What downgrades do you people speak of? All I see is that they made the colors/scenery a little more grounded - darker tones instead of ultra brightness (bright blues and yellows).
Indeed, the only thing I see is that they made the light much more believable. The explosion also looks much better.
"What downgrades do you people speak of?" The ones they want to see.
Here, try this. Load the two photos before the explosion into photoshop and compare the histograms. Then perhaps to a real photo's histogram with afternoon lighting. The earlier images are FAR more accurate color and tonal representations.
Doesn't look as good as when they originally showed it off.
ok guy you need to have your eyes checked lol. the new build definitely looks better than original build.
Compare pictures 5 and 6 and tell me that's not a downgrade? There are textures missing.
There aren't any textures missing. There's a lack of visibility of certain details due to that huge ass explosion. Such a massive light source would naturally obscure details of other things, so that they appear as little more than silhouettes. Dunno why I'm bothering, but this crap is pathetic. There's no downgrade at all. In every picture, the level of increased detail is noticeable. The new build has darker images, but more textures and richer colors. Give it a rest, people.
So the skyscrapers in the first two shots look identical?
Nay, better in the second?
Looks good..the old build vs new build almost look like two completely different games.