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Batman: Arkham Origins Video Review | Gamespot

GS - "Carolyn finds out what its like to be a young Batman facing master assassins in Gotham City."

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Abriael1793d ago (Edited 1793d ago )

Here's Carolyn Petit going for another controversial low score backed by super-flimsy, super-subjective reasoning.

"it's not new and innovative enough!"

Yeah Carolyn, you got it.

dasbeer881793d ago

It's funny because the Call of Duty games are rarely new and innovative from their predecessors, YET they receive high review scores.

zeal0us1793d ago

Activision money goes a long way. Plus people fear Activision black balling them to give it a low score.

plaZeHD1793d ago

She didn't review it smart ass.

mdluffy1793d ago

After a while what can you do new? bigger worlds, better graphics, better resolution. You can's expect every game to be the next big thing, but this game is good for what it is!

I like the game, 6/10 is much to harsh.

Lovable1793d ago

Let the series rest for a while. It might be having the Assassin Creed Syndrome.

Pintheshadows1793d ago

That is a bit unfair Lovable. 3 games in one generation vs 6. The fact is people are just claiming this is 'milked' because Rocksteady are not making it. I bet if Rocksteady came out with this exact title it would be getting praise and half the criticisms would suddenly vanish.

It is like people are forgetting the doubt surrounding Asylum before its release. I gave Rocksteady the benefit and it paid off. I feel WB game studios deserve that same courtesy, and after playing Origins they deserve it.

Peoples preconceptions are clouding their judgement.

Outside_ofthe_Box1793d ago (Edited 1793d ago )

@Pintheshadows

There is no way Rocksteady would have put out the same game that WB game studio is putting out right now. Lets be real here.

It is no surprise that this game isn't as good as the previous ones. I knew this from the jump. Rocksteady is what made the Arkham series good. Imagine GTA or MGS being made by another developer. You think those games would have a prayer being as good as the previous ones? Heck no!

Also, think about how bad games with superhero licenses usually are. Now think about the review scores those games usually get. Now look at the the review scores Origins is currently getting. Arkham Origins is just the best of the bunch of all the cash grabs on superhero licenses with WB just playing it safe by making the game as similar to Arkham City as they can get away with. When Rocksteady releases the true follow up to Arkham City you'll see what I'm talking about.

Pintheshadows1793d ago

You see, i'd agree with you if any of what you said was true. Origins is just as good as the Rocksteady Arkham games. In many ways it is better. WB seemed to have sat down and planned a story which fits an open world.

They have vastly improved the detective mode, the boss battles are the best the series has seen, the open world is larger and feels more dangerous, having people react to seeing Batman for the first time as he is still almost mythical offers a new take, the puzzles and non assassin characters are implemented more naturally into the world.

This game, despite the opinions you seem to hold is not a cash grab. It is a legitimate game in the Arkham series and it is developed by people who know what they are doing. They have improved things that Rocksteady seemed intent on ignoring. And if that sounds like a lazily developed cash grab to you I don't know what to say. It really isn't. It is thoroughly excellent.

overrated441793d ago

Too harsh* not that I agree with you, I just find it really annoying when half the internet doesn't know how to use the word "to" and it's variations correctly.

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Enemy1793d ago (Edited 1793d ago )

Well, Arkham Origins hasn't been seeing the best reviews from other websites either. This 6/10 is hardly surprising enough to call out, but I hear it's amazing.

Pintheshadows1793d ago

Having played the game Enemy I think the content, not just the scores, of these reviews should be called out. They are criticising things that were a)ignored in the previous two games and b)are ignored in series that actually improve less than Origins does for the Arkham series.

I won't call it out but I am concerned about the gaming medias flip flopping around this topic. It seems they just make a decision based on what side of bed they got out of. 'Today I have decided that all the things I previously loved about 'insert game' I now find bad'.

That is how I feel about it anyway. I don't really like inconsistencies. I feel gaming media has been full of them this generation.

aPerson1793d ago

Wow. Usually game reviews are spot on, but lately I've found myself disagreeing with many of them. First Sonic: The Lost World and now this. I enjoyed both games.

nthstew1793d ago

w.f.t is wrong with that bitch ....

majiebeast1793d ago

Didnt take very long

http://images.wikia.com/mk/...

I dont even want to see the Gamespot comment section bet its total chaos.

Abriael1793d ago

The problem is that, as usual, it will be used as an excuse to defend a bad review.

majiebeast1793d ago (Edited 1793d ago )

Oh im not making any excuses for the terribadness of the review. Im just saying, that the comment section is gonna be, anything from death threats to transgender insults.

young7yang1793d ago

i have seriously mixed feelings about this game.. I will try it when it becomes available as a used purchase

RedDeadLB1793d ago

I'm having a blast playing it. I don't understand what's so bad about it. I honestly can't.

Lionalliance1793d ago

you have mixed feeling and you haven't play it yet?

plaZeHD1793d ago

Yeah mixed feelings about getting or not getting it. It's not a rocket science bro.

EditorAtGNG1793d ago (Edited 1793d ago )

The game is simply incredible. If you liked Arkham City than you would love this. The world is at least twice as big, there's a shitload of new events/items/challenges not to mention upgrades, enemies, much improved boss fights.

Also the younger Batman is much more deadly and badass (if that was even possible) and the story seems much more focused and intriguing.

I can't for the life of me understand all these reviewers claiming it is not innovative enough. Like, the hell you people expect? It is a continuation of the series, the end of a trilogy. It uses the same engine, most of the fighting system and it still feels fresh. By their logic, every game from the AC universe, the Half Life 2 episodes, Borderlands 2 and its DLC, COD and its dozen sequels, Battlefield 3,4 and many other games should be called inferior. Great logic huh?

USMC431793d ago (Edited 1793d ago )

Agreed. My favorite Arkham game yet. Don't listen to reviews, everyone, play this game.

InTheLab1793d ago (Edited 1793d ago )

This review and most others are a lie.

The combat is not the same. It's incredibly sloppy and the timing for the enemies are off. Cape stuns are pointless now. Evades no longer reset mobs with any regularity. And enemies will attack in the middle of a takedown.

The upgrade systems of the first two games has been replaced with a tree that forced you down an unnecessary path like pointless armor upgrades. So instead of unlocking combat skills first to get higher combos and XP, you're stuck with armor.

I don't respect reviewer that speed through games like this. I don't care about the score but almost all that reviewed this game says nothing has changed....but the most important aspect of the Arkham series has been ruined by the B Team.

SpiralTear1793d ago

Dude, it's one thing to disagree with a review. It's another to call it "a lie" when it is someone's opinion by definition.

InTheLab1792d ago (Edited 1792d ago )

Surely you understand the difference between fact and opinion. The critic says combat has not changed. It has. Whether that's good or bad would be an opinion but the fact that it's changed is fact.

I don't know what your experience is with Free Flow but at one point last year I was #4 or better on the worldwide leaderboards for most of the FF challenge rooms. I know this stuff and I can assure you it's different.

I even outlined why it's different in my original post.

The review is factually incorrect. If part of it is wrong, the whole review is bogus. Part of the problem with critics these days is that they half ass everything. This is one of those cases.

denero11793d ago (Edited 1793d ago )

I can confirm inthelab is correct -_-

SpiralTear1792d ago

Of course I know the difference, but I've read many reviews of this game and these "most others" you're talking about aren't as "factually incorrect" as you claim, even if this one is.

I'm not defending the publishing of inaccurate information and using it to support a review verdict, but it's sad how a handful of poorly constructed reviews can make people provide blanket statements of how miserable the gaming press world is and vilify it. I've seen some real problems, but I can guarantee that not everyone is out to ruin it as you seem to claim.

InTheLab1792d ago (Edited 1792d ago )

Handful? That's not even the conversation we're having but since you are clearly wrong, I'll play ball...

Gamesradar- "Bat's attacks and counterattacks fluidly debilitate foes like a whirling symphony of fists--he's Mozart when the battle begins. It was damn near perfect before, and it still is in Origins."

CCC- makes no mention

IGN- "Origins keeps the foundation of Arkham Asylum and Arkham City’s amazing combat intact, "

Ausgamer- and this one is a blatant lie in regards to animation...."The highlight of the Arkham games has always been the combat, which remains the case here. Rocksteady’s fighting system is beautiful, and the decision by the developers to leave it largely untouched was a wise one. The electro-gloves from the Wii U’s Armoured Edition of Arkham City make an appearance, but other than that changes are limited to a few enemy types that I didn’t recognise and slightly smoother animation."

Eurogamer- " Batman: Arkham Origins really recaptures is the solid middle of an Arkham game - the combat,"

Shall I continue?

The point is, if you are proven wrong in a conversation like this one, it's best to just accept that and move on than try to shift the conversation to another point that proves what I originally said to be true.

Go ahead and downvote me despite making my case on your terms...lol

Edit: I didn't hand pick these either. Just went down the list on Metacritic and to be honest, that last quote was cut short a bit for space. Wasn't trying to misquote to prove a point...

SpiralTear1792d ago

Dude, chill.

Firstly, you're using Metacritic specifically. Even though they're "wrong", you're giving credibility to the same type of people who you are clearly against by citing their opinions in your explanation. Metacritic is traffic-based, not quality-based. Not every one of those sites is worth your time, trust me. There are Youtube channels who could tear publications like Game Informer a new one any day of the week when it comes to expressing a respectable and worthwhile opinion. They are worth trusting; Game Informer, not so much.

Also, I don't know where you got "shifting the conversation" from, because I replied to your comment. I didn't back off like you think I did. You said these reviews (and most others) were "a lie," implying that a majority of the reviews online were in fact inaccurate. Maybe the ones you listed were, but not a majority. Once again, it's all based on popularity.

If you're so dead set on proving to yourself that you're right on all fronts, go ahead. I will not censor you. But I am going to play and finish Arkham Origins myself and make my own opinion before claiming 100% falsehood on others' reviews. If you've finished it, more power to you.

Lastly, if you're spending more time tearing apart gaming publications that you don't like instead of supporting those you do, your time is clearly mishandled. Have a good one and enjoy Arkham Origins. I sure as hell am.

InTheLab1792d ago

Not worth continuing this conversation as we're clearly having two separate discussions...

I said the Gamespot review is a lie based on her statements on the Combat, which is the heart of the Arkham games, and that most reviews are also lying about the combat.

You start talking about opinions can't be lies or some nonsense and how I'm going off a handful of reviews when you don't really know what I'm talking about or how many reviews I've read.

I show you exactly what I'm on by presenting quotes for the first 5 or so reviews on Metacritic (which I use as an easy way to get to reviews that peak my interests and not for a meta score),

You start talking about metacritic and how much time I spend tearing down publications(which is bulls*** btw as I pull those quotes which took less than 5 minutes)I supposedly don't like. Where you're getting that from is probably the same place you're getting the my fake schedule of time spent obsessing over reviews...

I'm lost and you have no point to make aside from your last which is all you really needed to say. Almost everything you've said is a generalization and probably from a conversation you've had with others about reviews. Who knows or cares...

You like the game and will defend it no matter what so....enjoy your game dude and come back when you've figured out how screwed up the combat is.

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