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Forza 5, Ryse Son of Rome and Dead Rising 3 Install Size and Rear of Cases Revealed

The install size of few Xbox One exclusive has been revealed along with back coverart (Dead Rising 3, Forza Motorsport 5, Ryse: Son of Rome, Xbox One)

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ABeastNamedTariq  +   299d ago
Hard drives are going to fill up fast, good gracious.
Ausbo  +   299d ago
Damnnnnn. 47 gigs for ryse? My hard drive will be full day one! Guess ill have to delete and reinstall games often
minimur12  +   299d ago
I've ordered a 1TB HDD for my ps4, might take advantage and just install all the games I get. And when PS Plus picks up more a few years into it's life cycle I'll need that for that time.

but lol everyones going crazy, Have they forgotten that you can just play from the disc?
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FamilyGuy  +   299d ago
@ minimur

You can't really play from the disc on X1. All games MUST be installed. I'm pretty sure you can play whiiiile they install but there is apparently no option of not installing. You need the space no matter what if you want to play.
fardan85  +   299d ago
That's too much. I hope there will be an option to install the mandatory files only to get the game working, not the whole 47 gigs. At this rate the HDD will be full with launch games.
True_Samurai  +   299d ago
@FamilyGuy but you don't have to wait. You can play while it downloads in the background
ABizzel1  +   299d ago
@minimur12

Correct me if I'm wrong, but for Remote Play we have to install the game to the HDD or have the disc in the PS4. Anyone planning to take advantage of that will have to install everything as well, which is my big concern and why I say 1TB HDD isn't enough we need confirmation on saving to externals or something.
sic_chops  +   299d ago
Too bad it's not upgradable. Just sit your external hard drive beside your power brick.
HammadTheBeast  +   299d ago
Well, graphically it looks pretty high up there, so its understandable. Much more so than the 45 for CoD Ghosts.
Khajiit86  +   299d ago
Its time! To use... Teh Powaaaaa Of Da KLAUD!
blackout  +   299d ago
No you don't. Xbox One has free cloud storage for all LIVE members., no need for a new HD just store in the cloud. Microsoft perks how nice.
Ravenor  +   299d ago
@Blackout #1.1.9

Please be joking, please be joking, please be joking, PLEASE BE JOKING!
Ponchao87  +   299d ago
no digital downloads for me
Ju  +   299d ago
PS4 is the same. It does not have installs from disk. To play without a disk you must purchase it from the PSN and download it.

PS4 caches the same way XBOne does. You can play when inserting the disk, but the OS caches the disk to the HDD - all of it - in the background. You won't notice and you have no control over it. It does not support manual installs any more (like PS3 did).
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dantesparda  +   299d ago
Yeah but Ju on the Ps4 you are only losing at most about 40-50gb to play a game, and the rest of the HDD is left to you. Whereas on the X1 all games must be installed so, everygame you play is taking up like 40-50gbs. Huge difference!
lsujester  +   299d ago
For real. I was hoping that 49GB for COD was just an anomaly, but doesn't seem so. Guess my gaming investment is going up some more for a bigger HD.
mhunterjr  +   299d ago
The 49gb is still an anomaly for COD, with those bland textures. I still don't understand why it would be so large...
Rynocirator  +   299d ago
@mhunterjr The same thing can be said for the 30gb for Max Payne 3 on pc, the bottom line is they are using uncompressed data and textures which are easier and faster for the system to read, which (in max payne 3's case, allows for faster loading during cutscenes so there are no hangups when the game begins after the cutscene is over) helps for seamless transfers. Final Fantasy XV has said to be a 7:3 ratio of in engine to CGI cutscenes that transfer into gameplay without a load screen, you can expect the same for probably most games now. Bottom line is as games get bigger, they want them to load faster so you aren't waiting for cutscenes to load or levels to buffer, and the best way to do that is to not compress the data.

Edit: Also, installing it makes it load a lot faster than running off the disc, as the BDD in the systems (probably both the same) will run at 2x for 50GB discs, and 1x for 100gb discs...which if you don't know much about disc drives, most DVD drives run at like 24x or 26x.
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Kenshin_BATT0USAI  +   299d ago
@Ryno

Compressed or not, it shouldn't matter to a pc with an SSD, just saying.
The_Troll_Whisperer  +   298d ago
I have a question: If every game I buy is 50 GB, and since the Xbox One has a non-replaceable HDD, what will I do once the space runs out?

Edit: NVM, I read down further in the comments and apparently USB drives are compatible, but not at launch
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AngelicIceDiamond  +   299d ago
MS gonna need a solution for this quick. Titan Fall, Destiny, Watch Dogs among others will fill that thing quick.
jackanderson1985  +   299d ago
they have said you'll be able to plug in an external drive into one of the USBs
Saviour  +   299d ago
it's already got usb 3.0 so external hard drives won't be a problem, speed will be fast too.
GodGinrai  +   299d ago
Have they said if their is a size limit on how much space on an external HDD can be used? I really hope they have not done something stupid like cap the size again. I have a 250GB HDD. never needed to use a USB stick, so the 16GB cap never really bothered me. But with 30GB+ installs that 500GB HDD does not seem sufficient. We need at least 1TB this gen.
strickers  +   299d ago
External HDDs are not available at launch on XB1.
strickers  +   299d ago
External HDDs will not work with XB1 at launch with no date given
blackout  +   299d ago
Free Cloud storage for all LIVE members. Look it up, your all set.
MysticStrummer  +   299d ago
@blackout - I don't think that applies to installs...
SilentGuard  +   299d ago
don't fret none, you can hook up an external drive and set it next to your power brick and kinect. Hope you don't mind a cluttered entertainment center.
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RedSoakedSponge  +   299d ago
@blackout

please dont tell me youre being serious?

the cloud storage is for saved game data. not game installs.
BX81  +   299d ago
I don't want an external hd. I want my $500 console to be complete.
Infamous298  +   299d ago
Holy Shit!!. Dead rising 3= 35 GB, Ryse = 47GB, Forza 5 = 35GB, 117GB gone on launch day, 383 GB left for other games!!

Glad PS4's HDD is replaceble,seems xbox one buyers will have to wait till 2014 to increase their storage.

Can you imgaine?!?! 30-50 GB install for 1 game!!!
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timotim  +   299d ago
In all fairness...I don't see anyone running out of space on X1 in the couple months it will take MS to implement the feature. And even then they would have finished at least one game that could then be deleted to free up space for another.
MiHX2  +   299d ago
Just dance 2014????
MiHX2  +   299d ago
I am planning to buy awesome games.Price-Space left-0.1 bytes.
BBBirdistheWord  +   299d ago
Yeah got to admit this has me concerned.

On the ps4 you can install your own 3.5 HDD... so can go 3TB +++
MS better not charge a premium for HDD upgrades.

On the other hand... is it possible to install the local content to the cloud? That would solve the HDD issue.

Anyone know?
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Saviour  +   299d ago
@BBBirdistheWord : The max right now u can install on ps4 is 1.5tb and xbox will support external HDD. after console is launch MS will release some update to add support.
mhunterjr  +   299d ago
I really don't foresee many people needing to upgrade their storage prior to 2014.
JackISbacK  +   299d ago
both consoles will not be filled at launch day because 3rd party games are not that big and only exclusives are big ,ps4 owners will have no problem if any body of them buy all launch titles because there are not much exclusives ,most of them are indie which will require 2gb most.xbox ownere still can face problem because they are having lot of choises in terems of games,but still it will not completely filled ,but there will not any space left for extra apps from xbox live if any body buies all launch titles in xbox one.
NoLongerHereCBA  +   299d ago
BBBirdIsTheWord, You have to buy 2.5inch HDDs :)
Deathdeliverer  +   299d ago
You don't have to install on ps4. Just need enough space to cache the data. So say 50gb set aside for caching and your set from game to game. I wonder if XB1 has this as a option.
alb1899  +   299d ago
Come on, how many games do you buy in one year?
How many do you keep playing after you finish?
You guys want to make Microsoft looks bad at all costs!
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koolaid251  +   299d ago
who's going to buy 10 games at launch and install all of them to the hard drive? you fool.
esemce  +   299d ago
Even less mate as you wont have access to the full 500gb prob 430Gb.

If MS force mandatory FULL game installs then that would be a very bad move, partial installs with the option for full install or from disc play would be better.

The 360 install system is fine as it was.
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Deadpoolio  +   299d ago
Yes but is the 35gb for Forza before you get home and have to download half your game or is that after you get home and have to download half your game or it will not function?
BoriboyShoGUN  +   299d ago
Yeah these are basically full game installs geeesh. I didnt think we would have to install so much. Guess I will be expanding the PS4 HD soon.
minimur12  +   299d ago
I'd do it now, if you do it at a later date you'll lose everything on your HDD before you swap. It's a pain in the ass losing that stuff :(
BLAKHOODe  +   299d ago
@minimur12

That's actually an advantage to the cloud. All your saves and profiles can easily be pulled down from the clown to store on a new HDD. So, if you switched out HDD at some point, all you would have to do is reinstall whatever games you want on there.
GrandpaSnake  +   299d ago
the hardcore will fill this puppy up quick.
CRAIG667  +   299d ago
I have the day one Forza5 bundle, I will be waiting a long time for that to finish downloading!
I will also be purchasing Killer Instinct the moment the xbox is set-up, interested to know how much space that it going to consume...
kewlkat007  +   299d ago
I tend to play at most 2 games at one time...people will have to manage.
bryam1982  +   299d ago
Poor.xbones too bad you.guys cannot change HHD so.easily i got 1 tb HDD waiting for.my ps4
miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   299d ago
Too bad you can't watch DVD's and Blurays out of the box with the PS4 and not even after the 1.5 patch. Have fun waiting.

See.. we can all play that game.
blackout  +   299d ago
No need to spend any extra money like you p4 users. X1 has UNLIMITED CLOUD STORAGE FOR ALL LIVE MEMBERS. http://www.informationweek....
BLAKHOODe  +   299d ago
@blackout

You seriously don't understand the cloud's storage.

Yes, it's unlimited and you can put as many game saves and profiles up their that your heart desires, but your games.. and all the games you DON'T have.. are all up there, too, waiting to be downloaded by you, just as the "on demand" games that are on PS3 and Xbox 360 are now. So, if you buy Dead Rising 3 or Killzone: Shadow Fall and download it, it'll still be up there in the cloud waiting to be downloaded again, available to everyone else who buys them. It's not like you can save your very own personal copy of those games and they will be available to you INSTANTLY on demand via the cloud. They will have to reinstall again.. and while you can play while it installs, you will still need to allow enough data to download before you can do that. Nobody knows how much data has to download before you can play.. so, it might be you have to download the first 10 GB of a 50 GB game to play, which would take my internet connection about 2 hours. I'm sure every game is different, but maybe now you get the idea.
bryam1982  +   299d ago
@midnighter watching dvd and blue.ray movies? Thats.why.we have.netflix and movie streaming services that.we cant watch.whitout.paying.a.dime anyhow our.problem just.need a.simple.patch.and.is.fix while.your problem cant.be.solve that easily
miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   299d ago
16 racers online! Awesome news!
kingduqc  +   299d ago
Sony and microsoft went full retard with the HDD space... 500gb is so small. On top of that they put slow ass 2.5 inch 5200 rpg Hard drive in these... If it was 3.5 inch you could upgrade for cheap to 3-4 tb but NOOOO they had to chose the worst hard drive they can think of for the consumer.
xtremeimport  +   299d ago
well, Sony kinda put it in the users hands. They gave you something that'll get you by with the ability to upgrade yourself in the future.

Does MS let you to save game date to external drives? i cant remember. But i do know you cant upgrade the builtin HDD.
BLAKHOODe  +   299d ago
500 GB is too small, but I don't think they went full retard. They have always "started out" with small HDD. Why? Because they want you to upgrade, which puts more $$$ in their pockets.

I fill a 320 GB HDD on my PS3 in no time, so I knew a 500 GB wasn't going to hold s**t, especially with the size of next-gen games. But it's what they are giving us to work with right now. By the end of next-gen, I wouldn't be surprise if they are selling Xbox One and PS4 with 10 TB HDD.
xtremeimport  +   299d ago
I would like for them to make it a little more noticeable on the case. It's kind of an important statistic.

Seems like they've tried to hide it in the fine print a little.
Back-to-Back  +   299d ago
I dont get wtf they are doing with all that space. I can't even think of one pc game that came close to 30gb. Ryse isnt full hd either which is even more of a shocker. It almost seems like they are doing no data compression.
colonel179  +   299d ago
I am pretty sure that by E3 2015 we will see new PS4/Xbox SKU with at least 10TB.
demobot  +   299d ago
I am glad I am not a hardcore gamer. Out of sheer curiosity, does anyone know if once a game is installed to the X1 can that install be moved to a external HDD and then back to the X1 when needed?
4logpc  +   299d ago
I dont see why not.
corvusmd  +   299d ago
You can install and leave it on an external...and from what I understand (maybe not at launch) you can install and leave your games on the cloud servers as well.
BoriboyShoGUN  +   299d ago
You really think your going to play 50GB games directly off cloud? What magical connection do you have sir!
ma1asiah  +   299d ago
@ BoriboyShoGUN,

Some current gen games for the PS3 are already 40GB+ games are they not????

So when Gaikai is finally launched and as this is a cloud based streaming service wont this mean that you will be playing full games like Unchartered 2 or 3,The Last of Us etc via Gaikai which is SONY's cloud.
BoriboyShoGUN  +   299d ago
@ma1asiah

I dont know how thats going to work. I was under the assumption you would download them. If it is just streaming, I doubt we'll see games that size for a while.
DigitalRaptor  +   299d ago
"you can install and leave your games on the cloud servers as well".

Have you even considered the logistics of this? Why would you install (upload) your games on the cloud servers when the games are already on Microsoft's servers for you to download? That is epic data redundancy.

What you're suggesting is basically game streaming, but from Mifrosoft's game storage servers, rather than your own cloud space which is reserved for cloud saves, profile data etc.
cfir  +   299d ago
It was never uploading your games to the cloud. All games are available from the store so you could download it to xbone if you already owned it. But this was tied to the DRM. So not sure it's still a feature. Why would you bother. You need the disk in the drive to play. It would have to be faster to re install from the disk than download.
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mhunterjr  +   299d ago
@BoriboyShoGUN game steaming (onlive, gaiki) already works. The size of the game has nothing to do with it. All of the content is stored on the servers, all of the processing is handled in the cloud. Your controller input is sent to the servers, and (essentially) the video of your actions is streamed back to you.
Kayant  +   299d ago
@ma1asiah

true but like mhunterjr pointed out gaikai just streams the content nothing is stored on your XB1 locally. However as we know when you install a game you still need the disc for verification so if you save the data to the cloud it's wouldn't be able to read it because it's reads it from your hard drive. It's like the update program where on PS4 you get the digital version for a discounted price but you still need the PS3 disc in your PS4 to play the game.

Also I don't think that type of data is related to the unlimited space MS is giving to everyone.
Ravenor  +   299d ago
@ All of you

You aren't storing anything beyond profiles and save games on the cloud, goodness gracious.

@ Some of you

Gaikai and OnLive stream you the images of the game being run on other hardware. The control inputs are sent from the PS4 to the data center and the video being streamed to you reflects that. It's never the same as playing the game locally and the latency kills it. But what I'm trying to say is the size of the game is irrelevant, all that's streaming between you and the data centre is the video feed of your game and control inputs.
4me2  +   299d ago
Not at the launch. External storage support will be added later on. Probably beginning of 2014.
KwietStorm  +   299d ago
I don't know why, but that just made me feel weird inside when you said "I am glad I am not a hardcore gamer." I've never actually heard anyone say that before.
mhunterjr  +   299d ago
I don't see why not. I also don't see why you would need to move it back to the xb1. I play DR2 from a thumb drive in my 360.
obliterator  +   299d ago
Lol. Only these three games will fill 100gb . Great job guys giving us 500gb non- replaceable hdd.
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dethpuck  +   299d ago
you can download from the disc as you play and remove them. Its not a big deal. You can also add an external drive. PS4 games will do the exact same thing, and are also quite large. It would have been nice to have option to upgrade the internal drive, but with cloud storage, and digital download play as you download, who cares.
obliterator  +   299d ago
Afaik external hdds are not supported at launch on x1.
Gamer666  +   299d ago
I have over 500 purchased arcade / GoD plus add-ons through X360 marketplace...

That equates to 12 x 320 GB hard drives...

It is a friggin' nightmare managing storage!

This is a huge issue for me going forward. I will have to buy a SAN just to have 50 games on my console!
BLAKHOODe  +   299d ago
You still have to install so much data before you can "play as you download". Nobody knows how much data that is, but if the game is close to 50 GB, I'd say it could be anywhere from 5 to 10 GB, which would still take my connection 1 to 2 hours. So, it's not like you can just push the download button and start playing 20 seconds later. You might have to give it a few hours.
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DaGR8JIBRALTAR  +   299d ago
I dont get it...I thought this was only if you bought the game digitally. You mean even if I buy the physical copy I still have to install that much information? Wow!
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timotim  +   299d ago
Correct. This holds true for either X1 or PS4. Blu-Ray is very good at storing data on disc, but bad at giving that data to the system to use in a timely manner. So you either install or have some ridiculously long seek and load times which can make games unplayable. They opted to force installs in both cases. Why do you think so many PS3 games forced you to install huge chunks of the game on the HDD before they even let you play it?
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PsylentKiller  +   299d ago
Anyone notice that the box doesn't specify the resolution?
dethpuck  +   299d ago
yeah i noticed that as well. of course the system will upscale anything to 1080p as long as your tv will accept the signal. I think alot of things will have a different native resolution upscaled to 1080. they have been doing it all the time this gen.
MasterCornholio  +   299d ago
That is interesting because with the 360 they stated then resolution on the back. The PS4 specifies the resolution as well but I'm not sure about the Wii U.

Nexus 7 2013
PFFT  +   299d ago
I believe the WiiU does as well.
Animal Mutha 76  +   299d ago
Yeah that's very interesting. I suspect X1 will use its Hana2 scaler to just match your TVs native ( including 4k as per that Forza on LG tv), but that doesn't help us understand what these games are being rendered at by the GPU.

My Bravia only supports 1080i max so I'm happy it will sort it until I can buy my next tv.
MasterCornholio  +   299d ago
So the PS4 doesn't have a scaler?

I find that difficult to believe but maybe it doesn't even need one.

Nexus 7 2013
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jakehammer  +   299d ago
At least the Xbox One will support external hard drives in the future. These have to be placeholder cases anyway. Ryse says it'll only have one player on live when they've already showed off multiplayer videos.
AD705  +   299d ago
Yeah but for the most part external harddrives aren't very good for running games off of.

Hell I played some of my steam games on my external harddrive and had all kinds of performance issues.
SITH  +   299d ago
"Dead Rising 3: Needs 35GB HDD space for installation, plus there's no co-op"

Co-op has been discussed so much in dead rising 3. There is absolutely co-op. So many websites have shown it, and video of the developers talking about it exists. This site has disgustingly lost any credibility.

http://www.polygon.com/2013...
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timotim  +   299d ago
You are reading it wrong. The box states it has 1-2 player co-op over Xbox Live.
PsylentKiller  +   299d ago
There is no local co-op, only co-op on xbox live. It was a typo because it says co-op on the box.
Nick_515  +   299d ago
Obviously they mean there's no local co-op.
mxrider2199  +   299d ago
i still dont get only max of 2 players where is the power of microsofts dedicated servers on their exclusive... shouldnt it be 4 playrs...
vallencer  +   299d ago
You do realize that for co op and things of that nature it's based on the engine used for the game right?? It has nothing to do with servers.
mxrider2199  +   299d ago
@vallencer but da power of the clouds.. if you have to be online shouldnt the cloud be able to give it that extra power they have been boasting about....
timotim  +   299d ago
LOL...now its MS fault for not having more players? You guys will say anything haha! This isn't an MMO my friend...its not DESIGNED to have tons of players running around, that would make the game something other than what its intended to be...which is a SURVIVAL game...not an action MMO
mxrider2199  +   299d ago
@timotim who the fuck wants to play a zombie game with only one friend... i would think they would atleast have 4 player online coop...
Loki86  +   299d ago
Unlimited cloud storage for all X1 users, problem solved. Stop making a big deal out of nothing people.
SniperControl  +   299d ago
You can't install games to cloud! So many people think that you can, you can't.
The game is in the cloud for you to download to the hdd, it still needs to be installed on the hdd in order for it to work.
Loki86  +   299d ago
I know how azure works and they can use the storage to run a proprietary program I.E. a pre installed game and actually launch it as long as you have access to it via internet connection. This is pretty simple stuff, it just like running a program through a VM.
SniperControl  +   299d ago
@loki

That's called streaming, still does not mean you can install a 50gb game to the cloud.

Just imagine over the lifetime of the X1, it has something like 80mil sold units and every user installed their games to cloud, let's do the math.

50gb game X (let's say 100 games over lifetime) = 5000gb(5tb). Now multiply that by units sold, 5000gb X 80000000 = 400,000,000,000gb.

Are you seriously saying that MS 's azure is going to have 400 billion gb ready for it's users to install games to?

Get real man......
DigitalRaptor  +   299d ago
Explain to me how this "unlimited cloud storage" will work, cause Microsoft sure haven't. You're dreaming, you have no idea how this "solution" will work, so you can't tell people that they're overreacting.

Here's some logic for you - why would you install (upload) your games on the cloud servers when the games are already on XB1's servers for you to download? That is epic data redundancy.

What you're suggesting is basically game streaming, but from XB1's official game storage servers, rather than your own cloud storage space which is reserved for cloud saves, profile data etc. There would be no reason in uploading your games to the cloud when they already exist on there.
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MorePowerOfGreen  +   299d ago
I think he's talking about this.

"Xbox Live offers Xbox One unlimited storage space in the cloud for all Xbox Live members to store numerous types of Xbox Live content, including your profile, games, Achievements and entertainment. This content is stored and saved in the cloud so you can automatically access it anywhere, anytime, no matter where you are."

http://www.techspot.com/new...

http://xboxonedaily.com/201...

Why are there so many trolls in here?

Anyways you can have your entire library in the cloud and you use the local HDD in the XB1 for rotation or just wait for the patch for external drives.

The unlimited cloud storage, rotation on console method was the plan from the start. I don't see why PS4 fanboys are angry over this, acting as if this is all of a sudden planted fiction, when MSFT has been talking about for months.
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heliumhead2030  +   299d ago
Yes on top of what @morepowerofgreen said. M$ has been streaming games to windows phones behind closed doors and it looks Legit
DigitalRaptor  +   299d ago
@ MorePowerOfGreen

That is no confirmation at all. I've seen that - when that news broke I said that it was a vague explanation at best. And it still is.

What it implies is you have to buy your content digitally to be elilligible to download it from the cloud. You don't install your game to the hard drive and then upload it, that's ridiculous. Read this phrase carefully and think about it: "numerous types of Xbox Live content".

This is content that is native to XBL. Meaning that content that is already stored on their server. Entertainment like Xbox Music, and whatever they're doing with TV and Movie services. It doesn't mean you can torrent a film or your favourite album and then upload it to their servers. Like I said earlier, it also doesn't mean you can upload a game to the cloud that is already there on Microsoft's cloud server.

I have to say, Xbox fans are some of the most credulous individuals out there.
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IRetrouk  +   299d ago
How did you work that out?????
MasterCornholio  +   299d ago
In other words, you have to buy all your copies digitally if you want to download the games from Xbox Live.

Solution for owners of retail copies: just buy an external HDD but it will be slow compared to the internal HDD.

Nexus 7 2013
heliumhead2030  +   299d ago
You are so right. See what Sony trolls petitioned for? They lightweight ruined the Xbox one
DigitalRaptor  +   299d ago
Ah... so naive in your belief that it was a petition, or that it was even Sony fans doing this "petitioning" that caused them to flip-flop.

It was a huge storm of irked gamers who didn't want to be controlled by anti-consumerism. It was the fact Xbone pre-orders were dismal in comparison to the PS4 that made the changes happen, and no one is to blame but Microsoft.
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SniperControl  +   299d ago
I still think MS are gonna make us buy expensive propriety HDD's just like they did with the 360.
Pascalini  +   299d ago
Ms are doing external harddrives

Don't won't be doing that- they will make you bin your existing one to upgrade
r21  +   299d ago
Wait, it says there on the box, co-op 1-2 players on DR3. Am i missing something here or error on authors part.
TheFutureIsBlue  +   299d ago
Wow. All of those games are gonna pacman that hdd up.
whitefang1988  +   299d ago
A quick question for anyone who knows please. How far into the install does say a 50GB game need to be to start on the xbox? I think for the PlayStation its 7GB right? Is it the same?
JunkieJedi  +   299d ago
I have no doubt this is another money grabber for Microsoft. There is no reason for them not to include the option to upgrade the internal HDD..unless they are planning their own proprietary (and, naturally, hugely price inflated) external solution. Wouldn't be the first time they'd done it.

Make it 500GB so it fills pretty quickly and then charge the Earth for additional storage solutions. If our customers are prepared to pay over the odds for an underpowered console and a camera think how much money we can rake in from cheap external HDD's by making them proprietary and virtually mandatory.

Ooh ooh ooh - and let's only make it work if they pay for Live too!!!
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WeAreLegion  +   299d ago
Are you all absolutely sure we have to install the games to the HDD? That doesn't make sense.
JunkieJedi  +   299d ago
On Xbox One - yes. (it even says 'required' on the back of the box art)
WeAreLegion  +   299d ago
Man... This is a massive hit to console gaming if all games are like that.
jay2  +   299d ago
Wow, That's just a bit of an install update isn't it? Whats the point in installing the full game this gen?
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Etackett2010  +   299d ago
man, what happened to local co-op???
ballsohard2013  +   299d ago
Fcuk man... both Ps4 and X1 only come with 500 gigs so i gotta go buy 1 TB for each console. or atleast get one expansion for the X1 first cause thats where i'll do majority of gaming til Ps4 get more exclusives out.
Yo Mama  +   299d ago
Funny that they only list the resolution for Forza, the only confirmed 1080p game. I bet Microsoft mandated that sub 1080p not list on the back of the box for fear of looking inferior or weaker than the competition.
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BadlyPackedKeebab  +   299d ago
Lets be realistic though at 50GB a game and say 50GB system reserve thats still 9 games installed at any one time. I dont think many of us will be activially playing 9 AAA games at the same time. One or two maybe with one or two go to onliners installed ready and waiting? Having said that for PS4 my worry will be space for keeping those + games that I want to go back to at some time. Deffo want to opt for a 2TB sooner than later on that one.
Baka-akaB  +   299d ago
Yeah never understood that kind of fear . The people that will immediately feel strangled on either consoles , are those purchasing all games all the times AND keeping media content such as videos .

And those people have the means and opportunities to get some damn external drive or to get their ps4 a 1 or 2tb drive at least .
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Deathdeliverer  +   299d ago
PS4 only needs enough space to cache the data. You don't have to install. Wonder if XB1 does this also.
HeroReborn  +   299d ago
Disc reading is a thing of the past this is what is going to be standered along with having your own external drive. Sucks because until they patch to use hard externals we are stuck with balancing
nxtgengod  +   299d ago
DID EVERONE FORGET? YOU CAN USE THE CLOUD TO STORE YOUR GAMES. SO COME DOWN:)
Jihaad_cpt  +   299d ago
Do you think your internet connection is faster than the Blu-Ray drive? The cloud wont wont benefit anyone in this reagard
edwick  +   299d ago
yes, you can store your games there/ but you can't play the games solely from there. you have to download the game from the cloud to the hdd.
DevilishSix  +   299d ago
Any mention of how much hdd space of the 500 on each system will be available? On the 360 and PS3 they partitioned of a nice chunk for the OS and updates etc. I have not heard this talked about yet.

So we are not really going to have 500 more like 450? I don't know I'm guessing here, anyone know?
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GmIsOnPt360  +   299d ago
Dead rising 3 is co op what is dude talking about ?
osprey19  +   299d ago
I thought xb1 has got unlimited storage, apparently Microsoft have said due to cloud they can use that to give people alot of memory.
LordDhampire  +   299d ago
This is the worst part about console gamers, they are technology illiterate, microsoft will give you unlimited storage for game saves, and small stuff like that not a massive game install

Microsoft intentionally does uses tricky wording so its not all your fault, in the official statement it did say you can store games...which just means that games you buy will always be available to you on the market place for download, its not saving it just for you...its just you can play and download it from anywhere.
Mister_G  +   299d ago
Nice to see blu-ray capacity fully utilised, now that both console are using it.
Relientk77  +   299d ago
How do these companies think 500 GB for PS4/XB1 is enough space

thats 117 GB for 3 games just here
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