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Thursday Throwdown: Does COD: Ghosts 720p vs 1080p Matter?

"Some sites have been reporting on the NeoGAF rumor that Call of Duty: Ghosts will be running at 720p on the Xbox One compared to 1080p on PlayStation 4. However, the impact of this news is probably a lot less severe than most are making it out to be. We're sure a lot of PlayStation 3 owners are smiling because of the inferior ports they went through during the opening years of Sony's last console, so it's only fitting Microsoft's camp receives a little prodding of the stick this time around. Despite this potentially significant difference in resolution, do you think it really matters in the end or do you think it's just being blown way out of proportion?"

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GiantEnemyCrab979d ago

Maybe wait until IW actually confirms something? I expect a rather large backlash against MS and IW if it turns out true. Why even have this discussion when we are dealing with unconfirmed rumor at this point for XB1.

ArchangelMike979d ago (Edited 979d ago )

It is being blown out of proportion and won't really affect sales that much, but yet it still matters. Let me explain; 'Next-Gen', primarily means next-gen as far as graphics are concerned. The standard 720p graphical output was last gen resolution. 1080p should be the 'Next-Gen' standard. That's what it means to be next-gen graphically.

I know that in the end it will not add or take away from the gameplay, and that the game will still be fun to play. So does it really matter? Yes, in a way it still does, because I'd rather play the game on a console that delivers 'Next-Gen' graphics As Well As the fun gameplay!

s8anicslayer979d ago

To answer the authors question, when you go out to buy an HD TV, do you go 720p or 1080p? I'm sure the latter and yes it does matter cause it looks more detailed and as long as nothing else in the game is compromised to compensate then I'm all for it.

Eonjay979d ago

It will look better on a 1080P TV no doubt. I would rather play on 1080P than 720P. Everyone would. It is easier on your eyes and looks great on that TV you paid for. If you don't have a 1080P TV then who cares. But honestly, no one is gonna chose 720P over 11080P if their TV supports it.

Bigpappy979d ago (Edited 979d ago )

1080p resolution does NOT mean the Graphic will be better. What is means, is that if you have a 1080p or better screen, the image should be sharper.

Some people would choose the lower resolution if they don't have a 1080p screen, or if the game plays smoother and has better graphic effects. Often you can add more details to the graphics and get more consistent performance if you reduce the resolution. It is dependent on the engine, the GPU and the RAM. Any game can be made to run at 1080p on either X1 or PS4, but will there be effect or performance cutting is where you should focus, no the resolution itself.

shoddy979d ago

If resolution doesn't matter than stick with tube TV

n4rc979d ago

But cod was never 720p... It ran at like 640 since mw2

The price you pay for 60fps

Angels3785979d ago (Edited 979d ago )

A lot of people are arguing like this rumor is "game set match" (confirmed) not to say it will or it wont happen Im just saying there are xbox fans pulling eurogamer articles from 5 months ago to playstation fans acting like its already a fact. For now guys speak carefully with words like "IF this is true" because either side could end up looking very foolish.

Sure it may look like by some accounts that it is true, but the image could end up being broken by a simple "they're the same" in the coming days. You never know. Wait for some security.

Enemy979d ago (Edited 979d ago )

It's not about sales, it's the principle. They couldn't run the game at 1080p + 60fps on Xbone.

720p for a game as ugly as COD: Ghosts is pathetic. TitanFall will be the same.

joab777979d ago

Its gonna hurt a lot if the rumors about CoD and Titanfall are true. These are Microsofts bread earners and 720p would scream to everyone that there are problems with the xbox one that these two games could no t b made to run at 1080. The news may take awhile to become widespread but if initially there r big graphical differences on a game of this magnitude, expect many to make a shift. I am actually having a hard time believing it.

CrossingEden979d ago

1080p graphics don't mean anything. 1080p resolution does not equal better graphics. And people like you need to stop pretending that it does. -_-

Killjoy3000979d ago

Mike, here's the question I've been runnning through my head - With the steady increase in graphical fidelity for next gen titles in the coming years, will native 1080p go the way 60 frames did last gen? Meaning will it even be possible? I surely hope so. I never want to go below 1080 again, but I feel many developers will have to sacrifice it for other assets of their games.

mikeslemonade979d ago (Edited 979d ago )

If true then it is a bigger deal than you would think. When you extrapolate over a generation it is very telling the difference of power and the optimization level for each system.

Just think about it.. why would Infinity Ward go the extra mile to make it 1080p on one system. They would try their damn-est to make both console holders happy considering X1 has the exclusive content. So this is very telling about how easy it is to make a superior version on a PS4, and then we can take this (if true) as a preview of the next generation; being: we can expect to see superior version to be on PS4 with every game.

This could be the difference between the Xbox original vs PS2. When every game on Xbox original looked better and performed better.

Nitrowolf2979d ago (Edited 979d ago )

@ You guys saying "1080P doesn't matter, the game will lookt he same blah blah blah on 720P blah blah blah"

Take a moment and think. If the rumors are true about the X1 not being able to do 1080P, then doesn't that tell you how underpower it is compared to a console that does support it? To me, this just proves the whole idea that the PS4 is more powerful, and it won't just show in resolution alone. It's not like IW and all these other devs are just gonna slap 1080P on the PS4, they are gonna make sure it's top notch to with performance.

UltimateMaster979d ago

PS4 is confirmed 1080p.
X1 isn't confirmed yet.

Hicken979d ago

They're only saying it because the XB1 can't or currently isn't being shown to do it. That's literally the only reason.

webeblazing979d ago

next gen don't mean gfx. next gen means new system for people to buy. with a lot of products(thank god its games) they could just release the same with new firmware update. if yall think next means gfx the new systems definitely didn't come far. the gfx are making progress each gen, but lets just enjoy the games people.

ZodTheRipper979d ago

If it would be native 1080p Microsoft would just say it straight out like Sony. But they know that this is a huge deal so they won't tell you that it's 720p or something in between.

Benchm4rk979d ago

If the game doesn't run at 1080p native on Xbox One it won't be from a lack of hardware but rather a software/driver problem. Looking at the specs there is no reason that it couldn't run at 1080p

SilentNegotiator979d ago

Only an ignorant person would ponder for a millisecond whether or not it "matters" if it's 720p or 1080p. The difference between 720p and 1080p is massive.

badz149979d ago

@Bigpappy

isn't "sharper" image means "better" image?

Ps4Console979d ago

They said this gen was 1080p but we only saw it on the PS3 on a couple of games .

Army_of_Darkness978d ago

1080p vs. 720p on my 50" Samsung hdtv makes a huge difference.

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B-radical979d ago

If it is true i am canceling my x1 pre order. I'll just buy a new gpu for my pc next year instead

MasterCornholio979d ago

For 500$ you can get a real monster of a GPU.

Nexus 7 2013

Ch1d0r1979d ago

You should just man up and get a PS4, don't be one of those guys that sees Xbone as the only option. If you get that new GPU i hope you enjoy it. The new Nvidia stuff looks interesting.

Shake_Zula979d ago

I think it is more so that IW and MS is staying quiet on the subject for this console while its counterpart is confirmed 1080p. Typically in marketing, you want to advertise the good things, and everything else (usually negative) is left to discovery ESPECIALLY when you have direct competition. The competition in this case is a very-well marketed BF4. The silence tells us one of two things. The X1 version of the game is not going to be 1080p, and will either stay that way or the game is technically not finished and will be in a future patch (hopefully day one).

Either way, we can treat the resolution as a benchmark for how much is going to be happening in the game at one time per console. So, since CoD passed QA running 1080p it's safe to say that under the development methods, more can be added in referencing to textures and details without a need to degrade any other quality of the game. In the inverse on the X1, it can also be said that since the target resolution could not be met (again, under the prescribed development methods), the game has maxed out the hardware's current capabilities, and the addition of more detail is not possible.

With that said, I think the reason why the game doesn't look as good as it should might be because an obvious graphical difference between two versions of the game would be bad for sales overall. And for those who are wondering, there is a sizable difference between 720p and 1080p. To say that there isn't is like saying there's no discernible difference between 480p and 720p.

Sorry for the long post :)

#Geek

bryam1982979d ago

It dosent matter cuz the game engine.looks.like.shit

B-radical979d ago

It does matter it says alot for future x1 3rd party versions

Nitrowolf2979d ago

While I agree that the game engine and the game looking like shit, shouldn't that just further show that it does matter? If an engine like this can't get a game running 1080P on X console while the other can, doesn't that just say something? And do note, that this engine is pretty much the very same engine that's been optimized to run on the Xbox system since the first MW.

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF979d ago

It wouldn't mean anything but "lazy devs" at this point. NBA 2K is going to be 1080p/60...

joseph1111979d ago

I agree that of Xbox one can't keep up with ps4, I am going to cancel my pre order as well... If true, Microsoft blew it this time....

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imt558979d ago

Yes it's important to have 1080p on next-gen. C'mon dudes, 720p is the standard for the PS3/X360. Obviosly the 1080p is the next gen standard.

Too bad the COD : Ghost is not 1080p on XO. Yes, it's confirmed indirectly. How the hell Adam Boyes knows that COD : Ghost's is 1080p on PS4 and Phil Spencer or Adam Penello does not know for XO what are 3rd party are doing:

http://www.playstationlifes...

http://www.dualshockers.com...

1080p does matter. WHO THINK THAT 720P IS OK ON NEXT-GEN, THEN STAY WITH PS3/X360. 720p is not good on next-gen. And it is even worse when 720p is upscaled to 1080p on XO. GAME WILL LOOK THEN FUC**** DIMMLY!

Battlefield 4 Open Beta.

Upscaled 720p to 1080p :

http://i2.minus.com/iDViUoc...

Upscaled 900p to 1080p :

http://i3.minus.com/ibzQupH...

Pure 1080p

http://i3.minus.com/ixzjANg...

Upscaled 720p to 1080p :

http://i.imgur.com/5s48iLh....

Pure 1080p :

http://i.imgur.com/IPLimo2....

webeblazing979d ago

why do yall care about 1080p. I do but I don't get bent out of shape about it. people just enjoy the games. seriously if more devs start to drop res for gfx on both systems later this gen I feel like its going to be a mass suicide on this site.

ZodTheRipper979d ago

^Yes just accept the laziness of some devs instead of complaining about it to make it better.

wsoutlaw87979d ago

@webeblazing how are you going to try and say they are dropping "res for gfx"? you think they made graphical improvements on only the xb1 version and chose to lower from 1080 and just chose to make ps4 1080? dont be crazy.

bjmartynhak979d ago

To be honest, no big difference in my 17'' screen

I tried to download 2 movies from the same uploader just to test (one in 720p and other in 1080p). Both are highly compressed, the 720p simply sucks, while the 1080p is ok.

Depending on how the TV and the console upscale, the size of your screen and how distant you stand, it won't matter at all.

But sure, 720p, COD? This game is not even pushing graphic fidelity. At some point, I believe that PS4 games will be pushed back to 720p at the end of the generation to keep up with PCs... and what about Xbox One? This is what really concerns me.

bjmartynhak978d ago

lol at the disagrees,

People are really seeing any remarkable difference in these screenshots?

The building in the middle of the screen is the only different thing

720p vs 1080p depends on distance and screen size, it's a fact:
http://img.digitaltrends.co...

The biggest problem in all this is that X1 is not future-proof.

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Kayant978d ago

The real problem here I feel is that Phil Harrison & Albert Panello has said multiple times that have no idea of the res of third-party games even though Adam Boyes from Sony somehow knows. To add to this some MS execs have been saying there won't be a difference between the two for a while.

In the case of COD I don't think it matters too much because well it's COD it's hardly the most demanding game out there & you have Ryse running @900p arguably one most the best looking next-gen games & we have Forza 5 @1080p 60fps. What matters is the fact especially with Albert Panello is that he has repetitively said he doesn't know the res of third-party game however that doesn't seem to be case as seen with Sony now the question is how far those this rabbit hole go and how many more things has he been glossing over.

But 1080p does provide more than often a noticable shaper image over 720p.

deecee33978d ago

I'm with Crab. Smart money says MS and IW should NEVER, ever let this happen. An inferior port would be a stain on both of their brands. Like it or not, the COD community was built around the XBox brand.

But keep eating that popcorn, boys, this could get interesting.

tordavis978d ago

You guys realize no matter what, people won't notice because if it is NATIVE 720p, it will upscale to 1080p anyways? And do you also realize that you get more effects at 720p than 1080p. Devs talked about this before the systems were announced.

If you want 1080p/60 on all your games, get a PC.

imt558978d ago

Nope, it doesn't work like that. If you get 720p upscaled to 1080p, you will not see some graphics effect clearly because picture are dimly. Go see the pictures above. The higher resolution you get, less AA you need and less jaggies there will be.

tordavis978d ago

You'll never know what the native 1080p version would look like if there is none, so there's nothing to compare it against. Also, it's not likely people are buying a game based on the resolution. It's more likely that people buy a game for 60fps over 30fps because that affects gameplay. And your response about 'dimly' didn't make any sense.

StoutBEER978d ago

See, this is my position as of now. I dont care about CoD so this doesnt bother me. But if in the future I see more and more games that are lacking, theeeen I might get worried.

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TechMech2979d ago

Yes it matters. It would show whether Xbox one will have a significant power disadvantage, in which case it would convince many Xbox one potential buyers to buy a ps4, including myself.

Benjammin25979d ago

You know what's funny? Last gen 360 owners wouldn't shut up about how PS3 got so many inferior ports. But now that the Xbox One is getting them, it doesn't seem to matter anymore. This is a big deal if true, because it may mean that the definitive console version of many third party games will be on PS4

TechMech2978d ago

If the definitive version of games will be on ps4 (which they probably will be), then the non halo fans and non xbox fanboys will probably buy a ps4.

StoutBEER978d ago

@Techmech Sooooo Sony fans? Lol

TechMech2978d ago

No. I'm probably buying a ps4 first, and an Xbox one later. I love halo, and consider it my favorite game series, but it's not worth losing out on a larger community, better graphics for third party games, and the other Sony franchises I love.

Riderz1337979d ago

That article is very old. Plus, wasn't Eurogamer the one who said Ryse and Killer Instinct are 1080P?

For now, it's confirmed to be running native 1080P on the PS4 by Adam Boyes. We still have yet to get an official answer from either Infinity Ward or Microsoft regarding the Xbox One's resolution.

Software_Lover979d ago

Does Ryse look better, Visually, than COD ghosts?

scott182979d ago (Edited 979d ago )

We really don't know for sure how Ryes looks and plays because we haven't seen a long playthrough of a campaign level yet... So far from what I have seen of screenshots and gifs it looks great.

Ju979d ago

First...it's a rumor. Probably not true.

But with that said, Ryse runs 900p @ 30fps. Nowhere near 60. If true - which I doubt - the XBone has some serious bandwidth issues.

Angels3785979d ago

Things could have changed. But in all seriousness there are people on here who are taking it as fact already without confirmation.

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