Why Killzone Shadow Fall Is Almost 40GB (It Used To Be 290...)

There's been some consternation about the file size of next-gen games since Sony's UK boss told Eurogamer that Killzone was "cracking on for 50GB" and Nividia suggested that the PC version of Call of Duty: Ghosts required 50GB of hard drive space. (Infinity Ward has now reduced that to 40GB.) With the new consoles moving towards digital delivery and servers struggling to distribute titles like GTA5, how would our poor internets and hard drives cope with all that data? And why is Killzone so big in the first place?

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jhoward585947d ago (Edited 947d ago )

Dang, the graphic are incredible. KZ is by far the best looking games I've even seen.

DomceM947d ago

Console gamers never seen anything else so how would they know. pardon their ignorance.

supes_24947d ago

Great, here come the PC gamers on their high horses and have to blurt out anytime they can about how great their choice is over console gamers. If you're so confident in your rig why do y'all constantly have to try and justify it by coming on here and blurting out nonsense that had nothing to do with the post?

neoandrew947d ago

He surely hasn't never seen crysis 3.

Proof that n4g is a ps worst fanboys base, telling UNDENIABLE TRUTH = getting lots of disagree.

FIREsafety947d ago

best looking is subjective. his best looking doesnt have to be your's. he was only expressing his opinion. cant a guy have his own opinion anymore?

Am_Ryder947d ago

I'm a PC and console gamer- Killzone 2 and 3 look better than Crysis 1, 2 and 3 on ultra settings.

Largely because they're so well designed. The areas are still very large, too, thank you very much.

neoandrew947d ago

Fair enough, then my option is "on consoles" because crysis 3 is by far the best looking games I've ever seen.

And it is not only that, crysis 3 IS THE BEST LOOKING GAME, no one can deny it, this is the only TRUTH.

This is just lie and a funny one, comparing even to crysis 1 on pc, kz is nothing.

FamilyGuy947d ago

Pointless comment, as if you know every game he's ever seen. As if you know what makes a game good looking to him. As if you somehow speak for any and everyone.

No one cares to hear your snark remarks.

OT: killzone is at 40Gbs while Ghost is at 49gbs (according to the back of its ps4 case)
Yet killzone seems to be bigger, prettier, and to have a longer story. :/

Good work on shrinking it down GG.

ShinMaster947d ago

You get disagrees for trolling and instigating. Not for "telling undeniable truth" or whatever.

nunley33946d ago (Edited 946d ago )

Crysis 3 is so last gen,Killzone:SF is truly next gen. Too bad crysis gameplay never came close to it's graphics.

plaZeHD946d ago

Ignorance, really?
You amuse me. Don't emotional over a f*ckin VIDEO GAME.

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piroh947d ago

and it´s just the beginning

Shane Kim947d ago

PC elitists envy KZ graphics and constantly have to bash it to feel secure about their 2000 dollar PC rigs who barely show any graphical improvements and have no games to play.

neoandrew947d ago

Yeah "bash", you mean telling the TRUTH that you can't deny, and not 2000USD but at most half of it.

He can say that kz has the best graphics, i can say that crysis is better, which is true.

And i don't care what you think, i don;t care the price, any i care is the TRUTH, and the only truth is that console games just can compete technically and ever will.

Ps4Console947d ago (Edited 947d ago )

BF & Forza look good too but KillZone I'am very impressed at the moment really am with this game & most gamers have got fibre optic now anyway .

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mandf947d ago

Most games this gen will be 20+ gbs.

Misaka_x_Touma947d ago (Edited 947d ago )

with 10 hrs plus story and bad-great multiplayer

seems some people misunderstood a simple practice.

most games are just 10hrs plus and may have multiplayer that may be bad to great.

mandf947d ago

No all AAA titles are going to use hi-res textures which take up a lot of space. Uncompressing files take up resources from the hardware. Uncompressed assets are the future on consoles because of blu- ray. Things are changing in the industry and gamers better get used to it.

Misaka_x_Touma947d ago

hilarious amount of dislikes lol

UltimateMaster947d ago

No doubt about it.
And to think Microsoft wanted to install all their games on the 500Gb HDD. Ouch!
That's the advantage of consoles is that it can use High Storage Blu-Rays to play and have your games stored on rather than having all games on HDD.
Granted a PC can have multiple 4Tb HDDs, but always remember that it's an extra fee you have to buy more space for more HDD.

plaZeHD946d ago

Exaggerated, but I got what you mean. Devs seem to sacrifice a good lengthy story for technical achievement.

Misaka_x_Touma946d ago


That exactly what I am talking about.

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azshorty2003947d ago

Playable after a 7.5gb download. Thats still a lot.

Ive been curious just how small that 'play after only downloading small portion of the game' would be.

KwietStorm947d ago

Well it's definitely going to very from game to game. 7.5 gigs should ensure you won't have to worry about any lapses while the rest downloads, depending on how quick you get through that amount.

Campy da Camper947d ago

Well for me, when I'm playing a new game I always take my time looking around, getting a feel of the mechanics and checking out every nook and cranny so I'm hoping this works well. Heck, in Skyrim I spent over an hour after the initial opening scene just scouring the area for secrets and loot before venturing out to the nearest town...of which sucked up another hour or so of my time.

UltimateMaster947d ago (Edited 947d ago )

I think GT5 was around 5Gb and it was a lot.
It took forever to download and install from the disc.
"The initial Disc installation."

Killzone Shadow Fall couldn't have it on the disc, so you'll need to download it.
Am I the only one who thinks they'll need much more storage on their discs?
You can go much higher in capacity with Blu-Ray.

Bolts947d ago

Killzone is an open world shooter. Looking around every nook and crany is about as pointless as deciding to flank a Helgas to stab him in the back or to shoot him in the face. Either way, he dies.

Skyrim it ain't.

zippycup947d ago

triple layer blue ray discs hold 128gig so they have enough for everything no need to download anything over net other than patches

wich will in the gigabytes now

lol man i hope devs get it together and release games as close to 100% as they can and not fall back to the screw it we can patch it later

HighResHero947d ago

If people have problems with the downloads they should probably consider a physical copy.
Some companies will still release "incomplete" games but maybe people will catch on.

KwietStorm947d ago

What do you mean by no need? I will be downloading some games because I want to. I have the storage space and the internet connection to handle it, and having my games accessible all in one spot without having to swap them in and out is a convenience.

UnHoly_One946d ago

So am I correct in assuming the percentage of the total game size required to be able to start playing will vary wildly from one game to the next?

For instance, with this game it works out to about 20% of the entire download size.

But I am guessing depending on how other games are designed, that percentage could be more or less, correct?

I was originally thinking it would be a flat percentage from game to game, but I guess that wouldn't make sense.

For instance, a game like Skyrim that sets you loose and you could just take off in any direction would basically require the entirety of the map to be downloaded first, I would assume.

I'm interested to see how this pans out once we get a few more examples to work with.

hollabox947d ago (Edited 947d ago )

I can remember not too long ago arguing with a couple of idiots about Blu Ray 50 GBs not being big enough for next gen. One guy claimed model complexity and texture size did not impact disc storage. You throw in 1080P video and 24bit 48-96 KHZ sound and suddenly BR 50 GBs seem like DVD9. I don't know if Sony and MS can allow 120 GB Blu-Ray disc to be readable via software/firmware upgrade. If so optical storage won't be too bad within the next 5 years because I will hate to download 50 plus GBs on my decent 25 mbps internet connection. Not to mention my 250 GBs cap my ISP put on me per month.

cell989946d ago

These must have been the same idiots that defended Microsofts decision to stick with DVD for Xbox 360

UnHoly_One946d ago

The 360 came out before Blu Ray and HD-DVD.

hollabox946d ago

Probably, dumb on MS part, X360 could have sold allot more. But yeah not even into first gen software already and Blu Ray is starting looking obsolete, at least the 50 GB version, especially with 4K content on its way as well.

cell989946d ago

@Unholy_One nice try, but try thinking outside the box my friend. MS very well knew about Bluray and HD-DVD, youre not going to tell me it was developed in 2 years. MS simply chose to go the cheap way, and defended that decision at all costs, saying their "compression technology was miles ahead" and how choosing DVD meant better "streaming" all bullshit of course..

UnHoly_One946d ago

Yeah, and the 360 would have been two hundred dollars more expensive, too.

It's all a give and take, they thought it wasn't worth the extra expense, and they were right.

How many games really suffered from the disc space problem? There were a couple games that used multiple discs, big deal.

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MrCastle947d ago

External Hard Drive support is a MUST for all next gen consoles. Let us use more than 12 gb. Looking at you xbox....

ipach947d ago (Edited 947d ago )

sure hope they have an easy way to move installs from the system disk to external. i don't need the game to be playable - just want to be able to store it there...

and of course this would then allow me to drop in a modest/affordable SSD and shuffle games in and out.

otherwise, i think for the sake of capacity just getting a SSHD might be the most practical way to go. looking forward to future versions with bigger NAND pools... I'm sure the launch 500GB HDD will be fine until those bigger/faster SSHDs come out.

zippycup947d ago

usb 3.0 should be fast enough were the external drive can run games no problem

i wouldn't mind buying a 2 or 3 terabyte drive formatting it in whatever encrypted algorithm they use and just use the drive for ps4 and nothing else

CoLD FiRE947d ago

If you're talking about the 360's limit on external USB drives, you obviously have now idea. You can use up to 32GB external USB drive for games/dlc/saves..etc. You can connect 2 32GB USB drives at the same time totaling 64GB of external storage.

With the Xbox One there will be no limit to the size of your external USB Drives.