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Here's How the Xbox One and Forza 5 Look Played on The Gigantic World's First 84 Inches 4K TV

Do you want to see how the Xbox One and Forza Motorsport 5 look like while played on the world’s first 84 Inches 4K TV? You’re in luck, as LG hooked one of Microsoft’s new consoles to one of its gigantic 84LM9600 displays at the Geek’s Live show, currently happening in Paris. (Forza Motorsport 5, Xbox One)

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PFFT  +   333d ago
HOT DAMN!!!!!!!!!!
JokesOnYou  +   333d ago
Yeah too bad 4k tvs are still waaay to pricey....still its so goddamm beautiful though.
malokevi  +   333d ago
I'm considering this over the next few months:

http://forums.bit-tech.net/...

$1299 4K TV from Seiki, bare bones, no added features, just amazing resolution at the lowest pricepoint available.
robotgargoyle  +   333d ago
Totally. I upgraded to a new set this year (plasma Panasonic Viera) with OLED sets and 4k still being ridiculously priced.

Doesn't look like they'll be going down in price anytime soon.
PFFT  +   333d ago
I agree! Better start putting money into my piggy bank.
Abriael  +   333d ago
@malokevi: I heard some good and bad things about that one...
malokevi  +   333d ago
@Abriael

Care to elaborate?
Abriael  +   333d ago
@malokevi: mostly ghosting on the screen. Of course you get what you pay for, so it's still a pretty good deal
guitarded77  +   333d ago
Midway through the next generation they'll be reasonably priced. At the beginning of this console generation, LCD TV's were very expensive.
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UnholyLight  +   333d ago
<2 years you'll see reasonable prices. There's 2 4k TV's on display at my local Future Shop for 3k. Prices are dropping faster for 4k than they thought. I say less time than it took Plasma/LCD prices to drop
AliTheSnake1  +   333d ago
It would look really ugly and blurry. 1080p unscaled and stretched pixels.

Very poor pixel Density.
malokevi  +   333d ago
hmm, I'll probably hold out, then. Though I'll check the reviews before I buy anything. Thanks for the heads up.
SignifiedSix91  +   333d ago
They're not as expensive as people were making them out to be.

Pretty cheap if you have to ask me!

http://www.bestbuy.com/site...
BallsEye  +   333d ago
@malokevi

Not like native 4k but new generation upscaler does wonders and Ryse is best example, looking better than man native 1080p games

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...

looks great with no jaggies.
jidery  +   333d ago
This obsession with higher resolution is silly. Its like buying a car simply because it has more horsepower, when as a metric is only tells part of the story. I would take a good 1080p tv with solid color reproduction and better processing over a "cheap" 4k.
ThanatosDMC  +   333d ago
Yeah, where are the jaggies and the pixelated mess... i call shenanigans.
nukeitall  +   333d ago
hot daymn. The Xbox One makes that 4k TV look really good!!!

=D
Autodidactdystopia  +   333d ago
Seeing as how i'm looking at a downrezzed PICTURE of a 4k tv playing a 1080 or less game

I am confused as to what I am supposed to be impressed with?

the size of the tv in relation to the guy?

I don't get this.

why not look at a screenshot which is actually clear and then imagine it as big as you want..

http://www.computerandvideo...
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ohiostatesman  +   333d ago
I am so proud that Forza has been the best rated racing game in the last 10 years. It dethroned Gran Turismo many years ago and continues to carry the fire.
mkis007  +   333d ago
ohiostatesman in reviews, not in sales.
Ps4Console  +   333d ago
The new consoles aren't upgraded to run full 4K though are they , they just upscale but not to the full 4K .
abzdine  +   333d ago
on a screen like this even a Gameboy game would look good.
mrmarx  +   333d ago
i'm more impressed by the fact that guy could fit into those skinny jeans..
Erudito87  +   333d ago
whats the point? i thought max res is 1080p(but there are quite a few reports of lower res games)

Why the disagrees? its true. Id say the same for any system that doesn't take advantage of the extra pixels
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Abriael  +   333d ago
TV like that one have a pretty powerful upscaler built in. If you play games on it, you won't get the full crispness of 4K, but you're still getting a benefit over 1080p

Of course it's nowhere worth 10k bucks, but hey, some people have money to spare and no intention to use it to further world peace so...
dennett316  +   333d ago
Upscalers aren't some miracle producing chip of the Gods, upscaled images vs native resolution is ALWAYS a loss for the upscaled image.
The game would have looked better being demoed on a top of the line 1080p screen - would have looked sharper. All they're doing is trying to push that the One can do 4K, and I'm sure it possibly can for video....maybe. But for games? Forget that notion - at least, forget that notion without a dev dropping every setting down to low and creating a VERY undemanding engine with no graphical effects. The One is simply not capable of 4K gaming. PS4 either. It'd have fewer sacrifices in order to achieve it, but it would still be a very basic looking game that just happens to have a nice, crisp resolution.
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Saviour  +   333d ago
@dennett316- True. but 4k upscaled is better than 1080p native, still price is not worth to get 4k at this point.
Rageanitus  +   333d ago
ummmm upscale does not make magical resolutions.

I have a 1080p monitor and connected my xbox 1080p upscaled. It looks AWFUL vs a native 1080p game
mcgrottys  +   333d ago
There really is no loss in detail when up scaling from 1080p to 4k. Essentially 1080p = 1920x1080, 4k= 3840x2160. 3840/1920 = 2 and 2160/1080 = 2, 2x2 = 4 hence the term 4k. This was done for the sole purpose of scaling, if you run a 1080p stream on a 4k set you will end up with each pixel of data from the stream being displayed on 4 pixels on the 4k, without any scalars it would look just the same side by side with a 1080p display, so scalars should essentially only make it look better weather it be some smoother edges or better color reproduction.

If you want to see a proper example of this then just go to your closest bestbuy and the should have a Sony demo unit that displays both up scaled 1080p which looks better than my 1080p display and 4k which looks amazing.
wishingW3L  +   333d ago
since you guys have no idea what an upscaler is then here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

@mcgrottys, stop talking so much nonsense you have no idea what you're talking about. My goodness... lol
BallsEye  +   333d ago
@dennett316

Yes native is better but new generation upscaler can do wonders and will look way better than 1080p with some good AA going on. Just look at Ryse with its 900p

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...

Looks better on my screen than the PC games 1080p I run without AA.

Hana2 chip doesn't just stretch the pixels, it does much more than that.
-SIXAXIS-  +   333d ago
The game is upscaled to 4k resolution. It will not even be close to 4k. Imagine resizing a 480x270 to 1920x1080; it's the same size jump. There is no upscaler that will make it look good. In fact, it would look better at it's original size but smaller.
Ju  +   333d ago
What are you guys going on and on about 4k. None of you will buy one anytime soon anyhow.
tigertom53  +   333d ago
the xbox one can upscale to 4k that why it comes with 4k hdmi cable...
sprinterboy  +   333d ago
"what's the point". 4k movies is the point
Erudito87  +   333d ago
forza isnt a movie
MrCastle  +   333d ago
There are only a handful of 4k movies out right now. And they are 30+gb a movie. Definitely drawbacks.
Giru017  +   333d ago
Too bad for the disagrees, but yes, you are correct. Not only that, 4K TV's are capped at 30hz when displaying 3840 x 2160, so you won't make it past 30 fps with a 1080p 2x upscaled image... No thanks.
RedSoakedSponge  +   333d ago
looks good but pointless to have these pics really. we cant see the difference on our lower resolution displays
Septic  +   333d ago
This reminds of that episode in Futurama where Amy shows us her naughty tattoo but our measley, pre-3000AD TV's wouldn't let us see the images properly.
RedSoakedSponge  +   333d ago
haha! that is a perfect example :P

oh and the people who disagreed with me. are you guys retarded? lol
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Fishy Fingers  +   333d ago
Same as it would look on a 84in 1080p TV I assume.
Abriael  +   333d ago
Nope. That TV has a powerful upscaler built in. It won't look like it was rendered at 4k, but it'll definitely look different than on a 1080p TV of the same size, which would have pixels as big as your thumb (yes, I'm exaggerating)
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Fishy Fingers  +   333d ago
Fair comment. I'm not a fan of upscaling personally but I suppose on a TV this size it might provide a small improvement. But even upscaling to 1080 from 720 offers little improvement and thats 'only' double the pixels, here your talking 4x the native input, that in itself can cause issues like input lag as the extra processing on the TVs side does take time, not such an issue when your watching TV but possible when playing a game.

Maybe I'm just bitter I can't justify a 4k purchase (see: annoyed girlfriend) yet so trying to console myself ;) But 1080p upscaled will still be a far cry from 4k native.
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Volkama  +   333d ago
But does the Xbox (or ps4) scaler do 4k, or is it the TV doing the work here? It matters because so far 4k TV upscalers have a great image but with enough lag to be a bother for gamers. And this is the £4000 models, so the higher end processors...
AliTheSnake1  +   333d ago
WRONG. Upscaling stretches the pixels, and makes them look blurry. 1080p of the same size, will have crispier picture. ICC is a marketing stunt.
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Nocando  +   333d ago
Serious question, since the manufacturers are pushing 4k so much, does this mean a new format? Or will it just be higher capacity BR?
LAWSON72  +   333d ago
I believe Blu ray will continue to be the main disc format because it has been improved a lot over the years and now holds up to 100GB
JackStraw  +   333d ago
i love how everyone is saying how amazing it looks when... you don't have a 4k display to see how it actually looks lol. them xbots.
OmegaShen  +   333d ago
I think Sony was the first with a 4k 84.5 tv, but the cost is a real killer. $24,999.99 (thats without tax or shipping). But god it looks awesome and has the best sound out of all tv's out there (even better then alot of Sony's tv's).
Zancruz  +   333d ago
I believe you right about Sony being the first to sell 4K products.... But check this out Sharp made an 8k tv!

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

I definitely want that for Christmas! Lol
IHassounah  +   333d ago
How much does an 8K resolution TV cost ? I want one
Zancruz  +   333d ago
@IHassounah

Its just a working prototype and every techshow that I watched said the 8K picture quality was beyond amazing.... So I would say IF it was for sale it would a few hundred thousand dollars.

Don't you just loved getting disagrees because of something you like? Lol
CyrusLemont  +   333d ago
With high dpi displays a little under half of 4K on tablets and 1440p monitors costing less than $500, why is 4K still priced so unbelievably high? Have I missed something? Or are companies just trying to milk the main consumer for its release?
HeyYouGuyz  +   333d ago
Much like every new TV feature in the past, 720p, 1080p, LED, etc., they will try and make a large profit off of the early adopters before lowering the price and making it affordable for the average consumer. Over time their costs to make the new tech will go down as well.
ZoyosJD  +   333d ago
Several reasons:

display production costs are per area and per resolution

doubling diagonal quadruples screen area

and these are huge

the processor built into the TV to handle the image is also proportionally increased in cost

tech prices are an exponential curve

you can get a Chinese 4k tv for $800, but it would be terrible quality.
CyrusLemont  +   333d ago
Thanks for the enlightenment! :)
HeyYouGuyz  +   333d ago
What most of you fail to realize is that the game is only running at 1080p, regardless of the television's screen resolution. Just like you can play 720p games on a 1080p TV, that doesn't magically make them 1080p, or look better, you're looking at the same thing here. Just clever marketing to trick stupid people into thinking its running at 4K. Who am I to blame though, apparently it worked.....
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Phoenix76  +   333d ago
I think it hilarious that you got disagrees within just a few min on this site :-D just goes to show how many ppl are foolish enough to believe in PR B$ when it's feed to them.
Drekken  +   333d ago
This site has an infestation of people that have multiple accounts that have nothing better to do but log in all of them and push disagree with anyone not praising MS. I mean, you really can't blame them for doing it since they are most likely getting a paycheck to do it.
R6ex  +   333d ago
G-Sync should work really well with 4K.
MrCastle  +   333d ago
There are hardly any 4k movies and not a single 4k game on the horizon. Upscaling is upscaling. But lets not call it a 4k experience. The TVs are out before any of the formats support it. Unless you own a movie theater, 4k is a waste. There is a reason why they use 4k projectors in the big theaters. Because they are BIG theaters. Unless you sit a couple feet from the screen, you will not benefit from the high resolution. Until the resolution fidelity can imitate true 3D without glasses, Im not sold.
llMurcielagoll  +   333d ago
I bet this would look spectacular in person, pictures like that are taking away the high res detail.
Kryptonite42O  +   333d ago
Anyone excited for 4k should do some research first...
http://carltonbale.com/does...

your eye wont even be ABLE to notice the difference unless you fork out big bucks for a massive display AND you sit incredibly close.

"for a 84-inch screen, 4k resolution isn’t fully apparent until you are at least 5.5 feet or closer to the screen. For a “tiny” 55-inch screen, you’ll need to be 3.5 feet or closer. Needless to say, most consumers aren’t going to sit close enough to see any of extra resolution 4k offers"

Quote from Sony FAQ:
How close to the TV must I sit to appreciate 4K?
The short answer is that between 5 and 6 ft. is the ideal viewing distance for a 55” or 65” Sony 4K Ultra HD TV. However, on a 55“, you can now sit as close as 3.6 ft and enjoy a visibly smoother and more detailed picture (e.g you won’t see the individual pixels). On a 65“ TV, you can sit as close as 4.2 ft. to appreciate 4K.
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DevilishSix  +   333d ago
Wow you got disagree already after quoting manufacturers FAQ, some on here are true idiots, they must be in mom's basement drawing welfare or disability and clicking disagree.
Angerfist  +   333d ago
So its practically pointless. Thanks for sharing😊
Zancruz  +   333d ago
Yep... Big is the only true way to go for Ultra HDTVs, when I'm ready to upgrade im going 70 to 80 inches. IF I was to get a smaller HDTV I think I would just get a really good Computer monitor something on the lines of an OLCD or Retina display.
Looks Amazing. Im gonna be a proud XB1 owner soon.
Drewminati  +   333d ago
agree.. Now we know why driveclub got delayed
BattleTorn  +   333d ago
Look at the size of that Xbox One! (not the bluray player.. further to the left)

It's almost as small as the PS-eye that centered under the TV!!!
AceBlazer13  +   333d ago
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

4k won't mean squat unless you have big enough a display or sit close enough
JOLLY1  +   333d ago
Companies have 70" displays right now. You can tell the difference quite easy on that size.
Mister_G  +   333d ago
Next gen is gonnna be awesome which-ever console you choose :)
wishingW3L  +   333d ago
it's upscaled... I thought the game ran at 4k. -___-
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ziggurcat  +   333d ago
where was it written anywhere that forza was 4K?
clouds5  +   333d ago
Plz use your brain... The XB1 does not even run every game at 1080p, how in the world could it run 4k??
MCTJim  +   333d ago
How can anyone tell this is up scaled to 4k? It's taken on a crappy phone camera. What I want is actual video feed of said game. I've seen Forza and DR3 running on actual hardware and they look awesome.
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Nocando  +   333d ago
Title of this piece is horrendous.
dja1nhb  +   333d ago
ill make do with my pioneer kuros 43 ich plasma still looks great
Zancruz  +   333d ago
I'll be ready to upgrade again when tons of 4K content is available, Till then it's pointless for me to buy a 4k tv.... Sidenote 4K TV's prices are dropping fast, I saw some nice 60in for $4000 compare to $20k last year, so in a year or two they should be around $2000 for a good 60in.
mhunterjr  +   333d ago
I'm no expert, but wouldn't a 1080 60fps game look worse at on a 4k tv than a 1080p tv? I'd assume we'd be better off with a letterbox.

In this case, is the TV doing the upscaling or the system?

Also I wonder what happens when apps are snapped to the xb1 UI. Would the game return to its native resolution. Or would I see a shrunken upscaled image?
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clouds5  +   333d ago
You are right. LCDs always have a NATIVE resolution. They are built for content in a certain resolution and it's usually the highest the monitor/TV can achieve.

So if you have a FULL HD 1080p display, that means of course there are 1920*1080 pixels. If you feed it with 720p content a chip inside the TV becomes active and "scales" the 720p to 1080p. Which means the information of one pixel is now displayed by multiple pixels. There are better and worse "upscalers" but you will always loose image quality doing it. Usually the image gets more blurry.

Now basically all modern consoles, for example the XB1, WiiU (and even the 360) have internal upscalers. That means the console renders in lets say 720p, sends the image through the internel scaler and then sends an already upscaled 1080p signal to the Tv. This is usually the better way, because the consoles have way better scaling chips than TVs.

So when you start your console and it says "1080p" on your TV, that doesnt mean that your game is rendered in 1080p.

I'm not sure if the xb1 hardware can upscale games to 4k (it can for video, but not games i believe), but nevertheless the image will be heavily upscaled and will not look ANY better than on a 1080p screen maybe even worse.

The XB1/PS4 even struggle with 1080p from what i've heard, so no way on earth can they do 4k. You'd need a top of the line 2000$ PC with multiple graphic cards to do real 4k gaming.
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mixelon  +   333d ago
For the amount of money you'd end up spending - you could get an HD tv with insane picture quality.

Early adopters are a vital part of the market, but personally i think most of them are a bit crazy. 4k displays are going to drop in price very quickly over the next year or two. And they'll be better displays too.
thedon8982z  +   333d ago
True-dat HDMI 2.0 was JUST finalized...Led 4k tv with the new hdmi spec are TRUE 4K TVs.All these early 4k tvs, unless they have some upgrade plan will give you limited 4k capabilities, IN SHORT- wait until the price comes down and the new standard is in full affect, which I suspect will be late 2014!! I also believe that sony will do just like they did with the ps3 and there latest 4k tvs, which is release a firmware update for PS4 and upgrade the hdmi port on it as well.So if you have one these early tvs you wont be able to enjoy watching a full 4k movie at 60fps, you will be stuck at hdmi 1.4a spec which is 24fps. Now as far as up-scaling games to 4k I suppose you could do that but I still would rather wait for the up-scaling tech to catch up to the new hdmi standard first,because maybe there will be some more breakthroughs in up-scaling also which can make it a more justifiable purchase.

http://reviews.cnet.com/830...
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lesrima88  +   333d ago
meh,consoles on a 4k tv dont do it justice,run a gaming pc on one of those screens maximum settings,and i'll be impressed
Lboogieskells  +   333d ago
Looks beautiful
Epic_Troy  +   333d ago
Lol too bad ps4 can't play games in 4k Lmfao
ziggurcat  +   333d ago
neither can xbone, so...

both xbone and PS4 support 4K, but only for video playback. there are no games in 4K resolution (nor will we ever see games in that resolution). just because it's being shown on a 4K TV, it doesn't mean the game is 4K - it's the same as a 1080p TV showing a game that is 720p.

try harder, troll.
Welcome2Die  +   333d ago
LMAO! I love these xboners, if the mighty PS4 couldnt do 4k what makes them thing their feeble xbone can?
ZBlacktt  +   333d ago
As someone who has played all 3 of the up and coming car games/simulator. I'm telling you, GT6 had the least amount of flaws and it was on a PS3. It's total nitpicking yes because all 3 looked very very good. But if you are the type that look over everything ( dash, cross drilled rotors, when the camera pans over, etc, environment, etc ). You will notice the difference.
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Objective  +   333d ago
ROFL! C'mon try to be credible here! Polyphony couldn't even near compete on a technical level when Turn 10 was doing this gen, what chance do they have against Turn 10 on next gen platform?
ZBlacktt  +   333d ago
Have you played all three or are you just some random poster on the Internet? Take it for what it's worth. Let the reviews fall where they land when all 3 are out. Who knows, maybe the delay in Driveclub was for the best.
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clouds5  +   333d ago
Don't buy a 4k TV for the Xbox1 unless you enjoy upscaled graphics. The xb1 will never output games in 4k. Makes absolutely no sense to have a 4k TV atm. Unless maybe you have a 3000$ PC with Titan SLI or something.
Audiggity  +   333d ago
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

But, yeah... upscale only... far are the days where games can run in 4k native.
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