DICE might not have been 100% honest in their previous claims
DICE....owned by EA....not fully honest..... Nope, doesn't surprise me! Anyone else surprised?
Not surprised, at all.. I wish DICE, was not under the EA umbrella -most of the time. (dedicated servers being the exception)
Dedicated servers arent a feature, I consider it a must have. Dedi support was standard for most PC games before the 2000s, we made a massive step back.
It's EA, you know for a fact that they're going to attempt to nickle and dime every one of us as much as possible...
I wish no games were under EA, but sadly it can't be helped.
It's a common theme at EA, don't blame DICE for it. They work for them.
DICE has no control over any of that.
"March 2010, less than a month after DICE released its acclaimed multiplatform sequel to the PlayStation exclusive Battlefield: Bad Company, DICE senior producer Patrick Bach stepped forward and told the world that Battlefield DLC will always be free. Now to put these words in context, one of its free DLC packs for Battlefield: Bad Company 2 released on March 30th; the same day as the Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Stimulus package hit the shelves of the Xbox Live market place." I remember this. I thought at the time DICE was the best dev ever. Now under EA's wing, they're going to nickle and dime wherever they get chance. I suspect gun, player and vehicle camos will be for sale on top of the Premium purchase. Of course there would be dog tags for sale. Of course cosmetic items aren't a big deal, either you buy them or don't, you won't get split up from your friends who DID buy Premium or a certain map DLC. Selling maps is a sure way of splitting up the community.
During the Beta, the most annoying thing I found was the Battlepack crap. Considering how the have been milking their customers in the past, I could imagine them selling those too. Luckily these Battlepack do not only contain camo, BUT NOOOOOOOO they contain attachments etc. too. EAs business practices are at the same low as Activisions by now...
They'll sell shortcuts. For example "Assault shortcut. Contains all the attachments for all Assault rifles". They've done this in BC2, BF3, and will most certainly do it in BF4. They just calling it Battlepacks. It not a huge deal, but it's certainly annoying to know that it's there. When you're playing the game and grinding your way to unlock stuff, someone will just buy it, and have all the attachments from day 1.
Dice hasn't been honest ea hasn't been honest microlost hasn't been honest add that to the list santa clause!!
I thought DICE said we were getting free DLC w/Battlefield 3. And that everything isn't going to be $15 (or something like that, don't quote me). Wag of the finger to you, DICE!
Personally, I think EA is telling DICE to do all this. Its just a theory, but I honestly don't think DICE was ready to release BF4. Maybe a spin-off of some sort, but not BF4. It's what happens in this business industry: the designers work on their projects, and their investors come in and say what they need more of or less of. The reason Mass Effect 2 and 3 are more action heavy than 1 is probably because some EA representatives checked out progress on the game, and told Bioware, "Okay, a little less on the RPG, and a little more on the action. That's what sells now-days" DICE probably wanted to do a spin-off Battlefield, but EA pressured them to go with another numbered installment: "Look, our competition does numbered installments, and that's what the consumer wants. We'll even give you a raise. Just make another installement. That's what sells now-days." EDIT: I know its lengthy, and not really my style to say this much, but this is my envisioned theory. Not saying DICE is perfect, but I think they're interested in pleasing the crowd. EA is more interested in market shares and sales.
I agree, the business practices of most of the publishers are more than questionable. The industry went away from a focus on the game, to a focus on the consumer. Its not about making a game good, its about making exactly what the new demographic of Dudebros and 12 year olds like.
I think it's hilarious that Dice ran a whole campaign about free DLC, trying to humiliate Call of Duty. Fast forward a few years and they're selling all DLC. Another thing I find funny is that CoD had Elite which was $50 a year but gave you access to ALL CoD DLC for every CoD game, all under the same subscription. Premium is $50 a year and requires separate $50 yearly purchases for every BF game you own. And originally Dice said they didn't even need a system like Elite because they had Battlelog which is free. Dice/EA are just as bad as Activision, and in some cases they're much worse.
They have marketed their DLC as expansion packs. The quote was about map packs, and as far as I am aware, they haven't released a paid DLC map pack (yet?). It's why they released BC2 Vietnam as paid DLC, because it was labeled as an expansion.
Now tell me the difference from B2Karkand and a mappack? Just because they call it expansions doesnt change the fact that 90% of the stuff in these packs are freaking maps. The value/ price ratio is just way off.
Map-pack contains maps. B2K contained maps with new vehicles, new game mode, and new weapons. Those weapons could also be used on the original maps too. You might as well have asked me what the difference between BC2 Vietnam was from the base game.
BF2SF added insane amounts of new mechanics to BF2, 'Nam was essentially a whole new game. BF3 packs simply didnt add much besides new maps.
They're doing the same thing with SWTOR so it doesn't suprise me.They are changing the rules with dlc/expansion packs to justify what they are doing and charging for it. And battle packs, seems like the brought that over from SWTOR too. More and more ways to milk people for even more money. Meh, i'll wait till the Premium edition comes out next year and get it under $40 bucks. Not worth it atm.....
Back then, I was never under the impression that was for the entire future of the Battlefield series. I just assumed that was for that one game. There are too many factors at hand like ownership, production costs, competition, and the state of the industry to make a claim or promise like that have and it hold up. Sure I'll take everything free I can get, but thats just not realistic.
I'm sorry, what? Bad Company was on the 360 as well... Also, please take note that Bach said "We don’t ever want to charge for our maps [...]". Every bit of DLC for Battlefield 3 was an expansion pack, including some or all of the following: new weapons, new vehicles, new maps, and/or new gametypes. Expansion packs =/= map packs.
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