Hardcore Gamer: Microsoft has opened up a whole new can of worms through their own ad campaign. The "Did You Know" part comes off as talking down to the audience while the hashtag is just asking for people to use it against the company.
"Did you know Xbox can play games online or offline?" Yeah, but will it blend? That is the question.
Well folks can say what ever they want but regardless of what the author thinks there are still casual gamers who don't know truth from fiction so this just provides them with correct information. He seems more concerned with what fanboys will say than what the actual ads are meant to do. Giving the public facts vs misinformation is never bad.
wonder if they will give the "facts" about data tracking, AKA spying.
Will they lie about it or avoid the subject all together?
JokesOnYou, Here I have an image for you that will ram the facts down your throat. Ryse vs The PS4 Sorcery tech demo... http://ic.pics.livejournal.... X1 Playable games look better than PS4 tech demos.
Smoke and mirror is thier specialty
B1663r Do you actually believe that crap you posted?? Please tell me you are joking. No one can be THAT stupid.
B1 you are a funny guy. Even if the Ryse model would look better they worked years on it and QD threw something together in a short amount of time. Also Crytek makes playable tech demos since Crysis 2 because they can only sell games on graphics and not because they make great games.
I'm no Microsoft fan by any means, but I am sick of the "spybox" crap. David Simon wrote a fantastic blog about the NSA and this method, and I would definitely suggest reading it. You may learn something.
@ newmonday honestly, how do you get away with this much trolling? How is is you can bluntly accuse MS of spying with kinect when it is well documented that - the connection of kinect is optional - the participation in user profiling is optional The facts are there for all to see and they are well documented, even before the console has released. The missteps that MS took were quickly corrected, yet somehow there seems to be a hateful element on here that will latch onto any negatives at all. The popularity of this story is a perfect case in point. How else should MS counter all the b*tching on the internet, except to set the record straight? That is exactly what they should do. What a damn shame I want to hear about gaming news and converse with gamers not trolls. Can you change your tune, Newmonday? Your commentary in these stories is like a very old broken record. Come on buddy, you can do so much better. You are starting to get a bad reputation as a troll. If that's what you set out to achieve, then well done. clap clap. You have won the troll of the day award.
Yeh i have to agree with you why is getting the facts straight a bad idea when so many people dont know what the next gen is bringing, most assume graphics etc. but with bad press MS had early on its very smart to have this get the facts straight campaign
@Jokes You say that as if these perceptions that may exist among casuals are a result of a third party spreading misinformation about Microsoft, as opposed to the reality that Microsoft's own policies and subsequent 180's are to blame. @The people jumping on Newmonday It's not as if he/she is without history in making that comment. That's another situation where MS has themselves to blame. Don't spy on people and you won't have to worry about people accusing you of spying.
Even as a hater, I can understand why Microsoft is doing this and think it's necessary with the amount of misinformation that has spread like wildfire all over the web. Still as a hater, I can see just how hilariously humbling some of these must be for the Xbox division at Microsoft.
@Lecreuset It seems that many people on here have a very short memory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... why is no one jumping on this? There appears to be Sony spying involved... Should we blame MS for this too?
@BBBird how in the hell is that even close to a camera watching you listening to everything you say and selling that data for advertisement purposes. "Following public scorn, government investigations and class-action lawsuits in 2005 and 2006, Sony BMG partially addressed the scandal with consumer settlements, a recall of about 10% of the affected CDs, and the suspension of CD copy protection efforts in early 2007." 10% affected CDS but last time i checked a 100% of people who buy the xone will have the Kinect you guys try sooo hard don't you. http://www.vg247.com/2013/0...
@BBBirdistheWord My criticism is directed at MS for reasons many find to be serious, I don't understand why some tak it personal, if we don't voice our opinions XB1 would still be online only, Sony listened to the hard criticism it got this generation and are better for it. On the spying issue, Alebert Penello was recently On NeoGaf dodging questions asking for further details about the data tracking policy.
@BBBirdistheWord That wasn't a spying link you provided...do you even know what that scandal and law suites were about...it was to prevent pirating of software. The CD's installed blockers that were hidden and hard to remove. These did not track and read your emails which Snowden has revealed MS has done. It did not collect your video and phone calls from Skype (MS owned) and give it to the government. It did not collect consumer information to sell to marketing companies to help them better target you as a product buyer. The only reason MS unplugged Kinect is because 3 different countries were already investigating the need for the constant connection and remote access as a spy device...go google this. Remember they said "it's not they can just flip a switch to turn it off" yet that is exactly what they did. Didn't they also say that they couldn't turn the kinect off because "it's hardwired into the functionality of the XBOXONE features"... If you are going to post a link that tries to create misinformation you need to come correct because if not we'll call you on it.
@BBBirdistheWord: I love when people use that outdated Rootkit argument as though it applies to today. Some questions for you. How many console games have rootkits installed on them? How many people don't have rootkit removal software on their computers that would automatically block CD rootkits? How is a rootkit the same as a camera that can monitor your vital signs in order to tailor ads to you? How is a rootkit the same as a systemic, company wide consumer espionage program that built in security backdoors in the world's most used operating system to allow for spying, monitors Skype conversations, and records emails?
It's interesting how so many can believe the Xbox One is spying on them when it hasn't released yet. It definately happens, but no one has it. Every single Vita has two cameras in it. DS has a camera and a mic too. The PSEye is a camera. No one thinks these are spy devices. If you are really this paranoid that the NSA is going to watch you, unplug your tv and throw away your phone with built in GPS tracking. You may want to ditch whatever device you are using to access this website while you are at it. It really is a tired and old arguement that is baseless. Because they can do it, it happens? The Constitution still applies. Educate yourselves and then re-evaluate your conslusion.
@Death what did the "Constitution" do about the MS Prism program?
Why must people insist on making "spying" an issue? Hear me out: (or read me out, I guess) The NSA building a database on phone calls, texts, internet usage, etc. was to be expected. In fact, the idea of PRISM would still have been LEGAL pre-patriot act. A court can still approve the collection of data without a target. This was set in stone before the internet saw popular usage. It would only become illegal to actually use the data without court consent. This is where you would need probable cause (without using said data) to obtain a warrant to search said data. To be clear: I'm NOT a fan of Microsoft. Don't take this comment to be in their defence. Why must this be an issue for buying a video game console? Because some out there will say anything to "win" an argument. It's paranoia and paranoia only. The PRISM coverage was a scandal and nothing more. News media chose to fearmonger a mountain out of it-as they typically do-because scandals easily pay the bills. I see a whole lot of arguments about the "spybox" yet no one seems to say anything about the issue itself. They only seem to speak about the fact that there's a camera watching you. Seriously, do some reading on the subject if you're paranoid. edit: The idea could have been executed within the constitution and be completely legal. Whether the execution that actually happened is constitutional or not is still up for debate.
Exactly. Without probably cause, the government can't access any data and use it against you. If they did use illegally obtained information, the Constitution protects the people from unjust prosecution. With probable cause and a warrant they can use your phones GPS tracking and monitor your calls. This does not keep anyone from using their phones. If you are running from the police, government, etc, chances are you don't want to use your phone or game console that is registered to you. If this scenario doesn't apply, why are you so concerned?
Probable cause? Are you kidding me? You do understand that the American government detains people arbitrarily and without a warrant all the time right? It's been all over your own news. Hell, Obama signed into law acts that would expedite such things. The American Constitution is ripped to shreds on a daily basis. Why is this an issue? Because Microsoft made it one. If they had been smart, they'd have never tried to force Kinect on people, they'd have never forced people to buy Kinect, and they certainly would never have implemented any kind of data tracking, optional or not, at all. They also would cease all cooperation with the NSA period, and they can legally do so. But no. Microsoft went and designed a camera that can monitor your vital signs, and then come out and admit that they can data track (oh, but only if you want to right? Because the NSA cares about your permission). Every instance of accusations of privacy violations or possible ones is Microsoft's own doing. It's been proven that there are built in backdoors in Windows, it's been proven that Microsoft monitors Skype conversations and hotmail emails, and now they have an advanced Kinect that they can use for data mining and you DON'T want people to get upset and go "wtf?" Please stop being naive.
@Death&XboxFun the big issue here is that Prism is operating for years without the "knowledge" or "consent" of citizens. many people with knowledge of the issue are avoiding the XB1 entirely, but many uninformed consumers will use the system while being oblivious to what is happening to their private information or the fact that it is being extensively collected at all, and that just doesn't sit right.
Oh, people already know the facts about Xbox One. They just don't like them....
YEP! Thats Sonys specialty alright. They are Masters at Smokes and Mirrors! Sony has no equal when it comes to just that. OHH and BS bar none they are the best at BSing as well!
Dragonknight stop the soap box rants. If you are do concerned about our protecting privacy and consumer rights why do you sound so one dided? You're all over this thread grandstanfing but root kit sony applied doesnt matter, you beat your chest over "kinect spying on us" but offer not 1 valid link of consumer fraud, jail time, or harm suffered from the original and of course nothing indicate kinect2, but most of all not only did you fail to get to the bottom of why psn was hacked, which resulted in lost of network security for quite awhile but there was ACTUAL COMPROMISE OF PERSONAL DATA AND SONY WAITED TO TELL US- but you told us to shut up be quiet snd just wait until sony fixes it. DONT ASK HOW OR WHEN OR WHAT HAPPENED? Why freedom fighter, why? Dragonkight: "Microsoft is bad for gaming and gamers and the rest of the gaming populous who aren't defending them for their B.S. don't want what Microsoft does to further damage what is already becoming a far too corporate medium." vs DragonKnight + 0; 910d ago PLEASE NO MORE OF THESE ARTICLES OF SPECULATION!! We KNOW enough about what happened. PSN was compromised. We DO NOT need to know the details of exactly HOW it was compromised as that won't change anything for anyone. All that's important to know is that it was compromised, Sony shut it down to fix it, it'll be up when the fix is finished. That's all we need to know and I seriously challenge all the writers of these articles, and any commenters here,to give a real and legitimate reason for Sony to give you more answers than has already been given when we already know everything but one thing. That being when exactly PSN will be up and running again. http://n4g.com/news/751733/... -Im dissapointed Dragonknight I thought you wete fighting for ME, but unfortunately it seems your Hero Platform is built atop a MOUNTAIN OF HYPOCRISY.
Dragonknight, If you are so concerned about our protecting privacy and consumer rights why do you sound so one sided? Sony is no Saint with past "corporate schemes" to make money. Trying to blame the future ruin of the gaming industry on micro is just your emotional fear of micro being a competent competitor to sony/ps. You're all over this thread grandstanding but EVIDENCE of ACTUAL ILLEGAL root kit sony applied doesnt matter, you beat your chest over "kinect spying on us" but offer not 1 valid link of consumer fraud, jail time, or harm suffered from the original kinect and of course nothing indicate kinect2 will harm us other than speculation but most of all not only did you fail to get to the bottom of why psn was hacked, which resulted in lost of network security for quite awhile but there was ACTUAL COMPROMISE OF PERSONAL DATA AND SONY WAITED TO TELL US- but instead of fighting for us you told us to shut up be quiet and just wait until sony fixes it. DONT ASK HOW OR WHEN OR WHAT HAPPENED? Why freedom fighter, why? Dragonkight: "Why is this an issue? Because Microsoft made it one." "DRM isn't good" "How is a rootkit the same as a camera that can monitor your vital signs in order to tailor ads to you?" "Microsoft is bad for gaming and gamers and the rest of the gaming populous who aren't defending them for their B.S. don't want what Microsoft does to further damage what is already becoming a far too corporate medium." vs DragonKnight +& ;amp ;#16 0; 910d ago PLEASE NO MORE OF THESE ARTICLES OF SPECULATION!! We KNOW enough about what happened. PSN was compromised. We DO NOT need to know the details of exactly HOW it was compromised as that won't change anything for anyone. All that's important to know is that it was compromised, Sony shut it down to fix it, it'll be up when the fix is finished. That's all we need to know and I seriously challenge all the writers of these articles, and any commenters here,to give a real and legitimate reason for Sony to give you more answers than has already been given when we already know everything but one thing. That being when exactly PSN will be up and running again. http://n4g.com/news/751733/... -Im dissapointed with your soap box rant Dragonknight because I thought you were fighting for ME, but unfortunately it seems you just pick 'n choose when to use your Hero Platform which means it is built atop a MOUNTAIN OF HYPOCRISY.
Good find Jokes...But why bother, Dragon will just shrug it off by not answering or acknowledging what you found or said. People like Dragon love to keep the flames of accusations and conspiracy theories going but when presented with an actual question of proof of it actually happened he goes into defense mode and lashes out with name calling. No more is this about games and individual preferences, nope, it's now has become a fight for American freedoms! And of course Dragon wants everyone to shut up and look the other way when his beloved company of choice makes a huge mistake and exposes the confidence of their customers to hackers. Nope, it's all "no more of these articles, the media is biased!" or "who cares". Funny how he excepts that Sony shut it down to fix it and everything is now a-ok, end of story. yet won't except that MS turned down NSA and reversed the policies for the better. And here we have Miyamoto confirming what I said about the SDF's paranoid delusions of a video game console. The Xbox one is the start of Skynet! Seriously, Truly sad...
Damm freakin double post...pfft lol XboxFun its actually pretty easy I just remembered that there was alot of "its not sonys fault" type comments around the time of the psn hack -just google that with n4g, -click 1 of the links, and bamm who would of guessed the biggest defender of our freedom here against micro was all over that situation defending sony. Ironically that is a actual case of harm to the consumer, although unintentional by sony it was due to poor security/oversight by sony and they waited awhile to damage control before informing customers they had been exposed. Why not set a so called "precedent" then that such lapses in security of private info is "bad for gaming". Why no preaching to us then? HYPOCRISY AT ITS FINEST is why. In micros case nobody has been harmed. Point is shiii happens, if its unforgiveable say your peace and move on, coming back to xbox or ps threads to soap box rant over and over again is just a haters excuse to hate for the sake of brand loyalty. His agenda is transparent.
Just uh... Gunna leave this here http://m.neogaf.com/showthr... ...Microsoft should let people know that fact ;)
What gets me is they say "Kinect not required" yet they still force it on everyone!
They ain't forcing it on me.
Exactly lol.. "Hey did you know Xbox One doesn't require a Kinect to be plugged in for the system to function." "Hey did you also know you still have to buy kinect anyway." The article is spot on with everything that's wrong with this campaign. It's only a matter of time before some PS fans with too much free time on their hands do some counter campaign called "Hey did you also know" or something along those lines. Sad thing is, they've probably got a far longer list of legitimate things to call the console out on than Microsoft have positives.
Id rather be able to buy a console and know that i can use everything in the box, not like the ps4. Oh look a shiny new DS4 controller, oh whats this blinking red MASSIVE led on the front of my controller? motion tracker you say! ok so how does it work? You have to go and buy WHAT? a camera! So your telling me that Ive been given half of the tech? Gee, thanks sony for undercutting MS in price and under cutting me in functionality. See what I just did there? There will always be a way to find negatives in MS and with Sony, so just drop it with this kinnect not required nonsense, we all know the score, you dont want it, dont buy it. edit: fixed typo
@B1663r Take a closer pic of Ryse to show details of the faces. Take a farther pic of DarkSorcerer not to show them. This damage control is fucking hilarious. Listen, have you seen the complete demo, with the effects, and all the stuff. Now take a very CLOSE look at Ryse background... it's complete SHIT. LooL. That's what bother me with Ryse. They push the quality for faces animation during CINEMATICS, 'cause it's one, and their background textures, drawing distances, NPCs look like shit. When you look at Marcus, u're like "OMG" then you look behind him and you scream "WTF?!"
Not to mention their disinfo "poly" figures. Crytek gave their 150k/85k figures in *triangles,* not polygons, while QD and GG have only referenced polygons. And NO, they are NOT the same thing; the triangle count on a model will always be higher than the original poly count on the same model. I wish QD/GG/Sony devs would just give the triangle counts.
Wow,some people really have too much time on their hands. This is just getting way too deep into semantics. Every shitty gaming website seems to have an inane ability to make news out of the simplest things. My favorite part of this 'news' is... "the image does neglect to mention that the system did at one point in time require the Kinect to function + Another issue with the ads is that they’re so wordy" = Contradiction. All bark and no bite.
Lmfao! I thought I was the only one that was confused at many parts of the article too.. Lol ms is trying to change that bad image of them with all that drm and this guy feels like ms should spend their ad money reminding everyone about it first! The person that wrote this is out of control and his posting should be revoked! Lol
Well, having to require online for initial setup defeats the purpose of having an offline console. If I don't have an internet connection, I would have been one of the people complaining about always on, obviously, right? So then MS tells me that I must have an internet connection to start using the system. So I won't be able to! Now, I know a lot of people have internet connection (even if its very basic), but there are circumstances in which you just can't get one. For example, I moved to a new house that it was completely empty. I had to sleep on the floor for several weeks while I purchased furniture. The only thing I had was a TV, so I went to the store to purchase a PS3 (and Ninja Giaden Sigma 2). So I opened it and started playing. With Xbox One, I wouldn't have been able to play. Maybe MS will have the initial patch already install by the second production wave, but at least at launch is alienating people that really can't have access to internet connection.
Or.... If you buy it at a GameStop, Walmart, bestbuy etc. maybe you can open it and dl the patch their?! Think positive! I'm sure that will be annoying but at the end of the day you will get to play your game and that's all that matters right? You must be a very nice person, so concerned about the ppl with out Internet and how those poor souls can't play! I wish I had you as my neighbor.. I bet your the kind of person that doesn't lock your wifi just so everyone can share!
lol ya.. I can see it now... Employee: "Hold on sir do you have an Internet connection at home?" Sir: "No" Employee: "Hold on we have to open your Xbox here so it can work at your house" Sir: "wtf?"
Ya sono it wouldn't be the best experience for those that don't have Internet but if you really wanted to play..... I'm just glad I don't have that problem and I'm sure everyone here on n4g doesn't have that problem either.. Sir wouldn't be wtf? If he was informed before hand, goodness you ppl really think that no one ever knows what they are buying..
I don't see anything wrong with getting the word out to people. MS is darned if they do, darned if they don't it seems. If someone doesn't want the X1, they don't have to buy it. No need to cry about it to everyone and write an article about it. Or come into every X1 comments section and be negative. Just don't buy it, and go mind your own business.
There's that same B.S. argument all Xbox fanboys use. "If you don't want an Xbox One, don't buy it." None of you Xbox fanboys get it because you don't want to understand the basic truths. Microsoft brought every single piece of negativity on themselves for all the B.S. they've tried to do and are still trying to do. People don't let up on them because they don't want ANY other company even thinking about trying to pull what Microsoft has tried to pull. DRM isn't good. Forced online connections just to allow the bloody console to function isn't good. Requiring an external peripheral so the console works isn't good. DATA TRACKING ISN'T GOOD! Having a larger focus towards everything but gaming (even if gaming is there) isn't good. Creating endless paywalls isn't good. Xbox fanboys can sit there and make up excuses about why they don't care about what MS is doing, or that some other thing they are doing justifies the stupidity that has been coming from Microsoft, but the rest of the world isn't blind like that and we don't want Microsoft to set precedents that are good for them and bad for us. They started microtransactions and DLC for consoles, now look where we are. They started pay to play online, and Sony is now following suit. Microsoft is bad for gaming and gamers and the rest of the gaming populous who aren't defending them for their B.S. don't want what Microsoft does to further damage what is already becoming a far too corporate medium.
Why are you talking about DRM Dragon? It has nothing to do with what the guy is saying at all. Talk about ranting like a madman. There is nothing wrong with MS letting people know that their policies from E3 have changed. Not everyone is on N4G writing paragraph-long rebuttals against the corporate evils of Microsoft. There are genuinely ignorant folk out there who are unaware of the changes made to the console, and good business practice mandates that you LET YOUR CUSTOMERS KNOW WHEN YOUR POLICIES HAVE CHANGED.
So when will it be ok to jump in and enjoy the great games now that all that is changed? Can I get an exact date on when it's ok to move on? And I would rather you simply not buy It then to see you go on such a hate rampage...
@buynit: No one is telling you not to enjoy the games. What's being said is stop trying to act like MS didn't try, and aren't still trying, to screw over gamers. Microsoft are allowing data tracking to occur and have built the Kinect around that. They are still committed to their original vision of control over the consumers. Both of those things haven't changed and both are still wrong. You like the look of game? Cool. But the rest of us are looking beyond just the games and seeing how Microsoft is trying to steer the direction of the industry to the point where one day simply trying to play the game will involve so many control measures and fees it won't be worth it anymore.
I couldn't agree more, with everything you said. -DragonKnight- (All of the horrible policies set forth by M$, would affect us through cultural osmosis, that is why we must keep up the good fight.)
Dragon I completely agree and the fact that these mindless Xbox fanboys reply with these idiotic remarks says it all.. Microsoft is not god for the gaming industry, they are only complicating things. The way it would be is you could buy a console with a set list of features and you could use it and those features PERIOD. The direction Microsoft is heading is you get this console with very limited features and the rest are put behind this paywall and that policy and it's just ridiculous... and whats even worse is they make you pay an extra fee to use what you already pay for JUST to use it on something you've already bought (Xbox One) But the Ignorant Microsoft sheep just accept this without question.. and let's not forget the ones that defended DRM and always online.. *cough* jokes *cough* that right there is enough to show he can't think for himself and that he is beyond help, he would let Microsoft make him bankrupt and he would still defend them. But the thing that bothers me most are the xbots that are like "ooh poor Microsoft why are the Sony fanboys so mean" Time for a wake up call.. it isn't just Sony fanboys mad at Microsoft.. it's anybody who has the least bit of common knowledge and self respect. You think the Xbox One games look fun? Good for you.. You want to buy an Xbox One? good for you.. just don't come rushing to defend Microsoft every time something negative is said twords them.. because they deserve every bit of negative news they get. Microsoft is the bad seed of the gaming community.
Dragon, your first post is just pure shouting. cleverly highlighting past trending negativity surrounding MS and milking it for everything its worth. I don’t think there is anyone here who would say that MS were not wrong with their initial vision. Although you don’t want to move on from the may announcement, it sounds as if your happily stuck in the past, happy as a pig in shit, because thats all your slinging. If you could actually take some deep breaths, calm down and actually look at the concept MS have and separate it from the security and DRM for a moment then you may understand what they were actually trying to achieve and will ultimately do in some shape or form in the future. Unfortunately they failed in being able to implement a way to protect software and licenses to prevent the Xbox one from being a hackers dream come true. So yes, they failed miserably at that. From locked to region and requiring an internet connection every 24hours to region free and fully offline, 180 indeed. The kinect is integr.... blah blah blah, you know what Im saying, and I know you know it makes sense from a development platform perspective, whether you choose to admit it is another issue all together. From E3 to Gamescom to Eurogamer we have all seen that the xbox IS intended to play games and it does it damn well. There is a decent selection on offer for early adopters and there is good news in the light of more studios under the MS umbrella, not to mention the [email protected] So all I see when I think of the future of Xbox one is Games Games Games! + TV + Unique Shows + Music + Apps + Internet + BluRay Player etc all working in tandem on a seamless operating system controlled by your voice, gestures or the controller. WOW! The final nail you try to hammer into the coffin regarding the Data Capture is just pure and selective paranoia. You seem to forget that MS dont just do gaming, their software runs most of the world, so naturally they will be of key interest to the NSA just as other communication services are. You come here in full attack mode and then criticize people for trying to defend their thoughts is just stupid. You are being stupid, you ask for a fight then you ridicule people who step up to the plate with your little trolls kissing your ass following you like lost puppies. Well my bubbles are gone(only 3 left as you can see and of course by your logic I deserve only three or less, where you have 7, because I’m so ignorant compared with your educated and well thought out arguments) so attack away.
"damned if they do, damned if they don't" that's exactly it, and it's 100% their own doing and NO ONE should feel sorry for them, NO ONE should defend them. when a company makes decisions that impact far beyond the borders of its own consumer base (i.e. Xbox One was a cancer to the entire industry) then I feel we should all chip in and we're all entitled to our €0.02. Microsoft got themselves into this little shithole and tried to drag the rest of us in, affliates and rivals. now we're all laughing from the outside and no one should help so they can learn their lesson. so that dumb "you weren't going to buy an Xbox One" line doesn't cut it. it's a classic case of "live by the sword, die by the sword"
Oh geez. We got the ultimate sony fanboy Dragonknight telling us why we should hate MS.
The thing is: most of us with any level of intelligence already know why we should hate Microsoft. The only ones who don't seem to get it are the ones who can't do anything but love Microsoft. In other words: folks like you who are brainwashed. Also known as fanboys.
Do have to say, that MS doesn't have to "We Use to do This, Now We Do This," in regards to the XB1. But one thing that should be getting the message out about, the one thing they'll likely *need* to, is that one-time required online registration. The last thing they'll want are people finding out about that after they've opened the box and hooked everything else up.
That's probably why they included this as part of the campaign... http://www.hardcoregamer.co...
Next article to be submitted.... not liking that Microsoft uses the color green because they are mockinh gamers by taking their money. How about an article bashing Microsoft for its release date being too close to Thanksgiving .. which makes it anti family. Any other topics that need to be covered?
I love how they let us know that we don't need to be connected to the internet to play offline games, like they are doing us some sort of favour. We never have needed to have an internet connection to play offline and you shouldn't need to remind people of it, it shouldn't even be an issue to address. To the disagrees, what are you actually disagreeing with? Would you actually PREFER to have to be connected to the internet to play offline games? Jesus Christ the level of blind fanboyism is laughable. You shouldn't need to tell your customers that an internet connection isn't required to play offline because that's the way its always been. MS isn't doing you any favours or being "good guys".
They should remind people that they need a one time online connection for the system firmware update.
How does it sound like a favor? It sounds like they had a bad policy, changed it, and now they are responsible for making sure everyone is aware of the change. You're right, there shouldn't be an issue to address, but their IS one... So they HAVE to address it.
Spot on response.
There isn't an issue to address, people have been gaming for decades and an internet connection has never been needed, so based off that, people know this already and don't need to be reminded by MS trying to act like good guys after what they tried to pull with DRM and 24 check ins. Do you see Sony or Nintendo saying that an internet connection is not required one month before launch? No, because its common knowledge and has been for decades. It reminds me of that one game a few years ago that said "Multiplayer completely free with every copy", i think it was Call Of Duty or Battlefield. Its like....YEAH WE KNOW, you aren't doing us any favours by saying its free.
@Lukas Wow, did the response you replied to go completely over your head? There is an issue, the issue is Microsoft's original policy which some people might think is still in play..... there for Microsoft is on a campaign to inform the masses that those original policies are no longer in play and/or never existed. This is not about Microsoft trying to be good, this is about them spreading the new policies of there console. Microsoft was going to change policies that have been around for decades, but now they are not, so they have to get this information out there. This has nothing to do with Microsoft acting like they are doing favors.... turn your hate off for a second.
It seems that there are many people who aren't getting what Lukas is saying. He's not saying that informing people is bad. He's saying that Microsoft should have never put themselves in the position of needing to tell people that they don't need an internet connection to play offline games because we've never needed one before until Microsoft decided that they were going to try and force that on everyone. THAT'S what Lukas' problem with this is. Not the general idea of informing people.
@Lukas_Japonicus How is there no issue to address? Not everyone is as into gaming news and you and I. A casual gamer may have heard about xbox one DRM on cnn this summer, and may still be under the impression that the drm is still in place. MS owes it to themselves, their partners, and especially their customers (past, present, and future) to make sure consumers are operating with the most recent information. Are you dense or something? Sony and Nintendo aren't making this statement because neither of them ever had a policy that required internet connections for offline games. Microsoft did have such a policy, and now need to make consumers aware that they changed the policy.
And who's fault is that? The consumers or Microsofts. If you try to implement a policy change that goes against a practice that you yourself used at one point or another, you have no one to blame except yourself if it hasn't been clarified! The point being made is Microsoft chose to rewrite their own policies, and now they are scrambling to 180 the policy back to the original form, which was "No internet connection required to play games offline!" When they should have left well enough alone or, at the very least eased their fanbase into the changes they planned on instituting gradually, not in one big fell swoop.
@stuna1 we know it's Microsoft fault. No one it's debating that. We've come to that concussion months ago. Now (for whatever reason) we are debating whether or not Microsoft should be letting people know that they've done a 180. The truth is Microsoft has two options at this point. Let everyone know that they have changed their policy to something better or build a time machine and undo the drm in the first place. Since the latter is impossible, Microsoft is letting the public know that they've changed their policy. How can that possibly garner further criticism?