The Xbox One is no longer available for pre order at Amazon germany.
bout time i suppose. isnt the xbone one month away?
MS have flooded the 13 countries with Xbox one they are releasing in, this is good news. Selling out everywhere now, going to be impressive numbers.
It's easy to sell 5 or 10 new consoles.
Good to hear. Xbox One is definitely catching up thanks to the reversals and the excellent looking launch line up the Xbox One has. There is no doubt that it's going to be a close fight this gen with Xbox One definitely taking it like they did this gen. Xbox One day One.
"with Xbox One definitely taking it like they did this gen. " Yeah.... Being last in sales sure made them a winner.
Um, he wasn't talking about by the time it's released. I think he is referring too, in general taking it?
I wasn't referring to that either... And uh.. in general? General what? It doesn't have the highest rated exclusives and it didn't sell the most units out of the three systems of this gen.
About that: PS2: 157m Xbox: 24m PS3: 80+ X360: 80+ Comparing this gen to the previous (especially vs all the market that Sony lost) being last in sales never looked better for MS
I only look at that as grasping for straws. Each generation is always going to have a completely different out come. Microsoft's best attempt still made them end up in last place. Sony's first attempt took over the industry.
From XB generation to XB360 generation, Microsoft gained a drastic level of market share... From the PS2 generation to PS3 generation, sony lost a drastic level of market share. Also, you have to wonder how many "real" numbers of consoles there are for each console... RRoD, many console redesigns, console storage size changes, AAA collector bundles, etc. The difference between 80m and 79m for PS3 and X360 may actual be zero.
@neo They wanted market share they couldnt tap into in the 5th gen. To say their 8+ yr 360 tenure doesn't make them a 'winner' is idiotic
It made them successful... but a winner against the competition? Nope.
Close fight? LOL PS4 is #2 in the best sellers PS4 Killzone bundle is #20 PS4 Driveclub bundle is #43 While the Xbox Day One bundle is #21 and the Xbox doesn't have any other bundles in the 2013 best sellers so far. That is nowhere near a "close fight". EDIT: jgrigs09, on Amazon Germany. http://www.amazon.de/gp/bes... (#2 and #20) http://www.amazon.de/gp/bes... (#21, just like the article says sold out) http://www.amazon.de/gp/bes... (#43) The truth hurts doesnt it jgrigs.
On what site? ALL THE SITES? no....
Jgrigs just agree, it's easier he will see when they are released and the gap is not millions like they think. It's the same with the specs and games. Plus this is nothin to do with ps4.... It's an illness!
Also all PS4 bundles that had game delays have been discontinued in retail stores. Or some stores will offer another game. So pull that best seller shit out of your comment.
X1 never was in to 15 best selling on Amazon Germany. I don't how it sold out maybe their supplies of X1 were 5 or 10 consoles... lol
Flamehawk, if this is what you do for a living, scour the net for sales numbers..... no more needs to be said...
@PS4beaver, you mean searching for 10 seconds and copying and pasting a couple of links in which in total took around 2 minutes to do? Wow I didn't know I had only 2 minutes to live, oh wait I would be dead by now umm...
So you admit to looking at preorders numbers... indeed how sad, and judging by your agrees and my disagrees, what an infantile industry we are... reduced to such pathetic squabbles, but regardless, have fun with your choice of console, games.... that should be the bottom line.... I do not see this with Corolla/Civic..... its just choices, perspectives.... we here just make it all look so childish........ People complained about Mass Effect 3 ending.... no one complains about the end in movies... makes them change it.....
@flamehawk Since when has a kz game been a console seller? NEVER. 4th time a charm?
You do know xbox 360 is in last place worldwide. Beaten by two consoles that came out over a year after the 360. That is the definition of losing.
I respecfully disagree. Last gen spny had the market cornered with aprox. 75% now they lost lots of ground to MS, they are almost evenly split in market shares this gen at something like 35% each. For example PLasyatation 2 sold aprox 150 million units and the Plasyattion 3 has sold about half that sum While the Original xbox sold aprox 30 million and the 360 more than doubled that. That my friend is the definition of loosing.
depends on how you look at the numbers. how many customers did Microsoft gain during the 360 era vs. how many customers sony lost during the ps3 era. that's how this next gen is going to see who wins too.
no doubt they lost but they still have solid sales which are nearly equal to sony despite not being able to penatrate the second largest gaming market japan. this is also going against two companies that each have a decade more experience in the market, more ips, and more classics. they may have lost but its not by much, if they got obliterated that would be bad but they didnt and continue to establish themselves. its also almost a guarantee that they will take second in this upcoming gen too. not bad for a 3rd console while the others are on 4 and 6 and to top ot off, their product continues to grow. they went from somewhere around 20 million units with the original, to 80 million with the 360. took a good chunk of the market away from sony and nintendo and show few signs of slowing down despite the backlash earlier this year. 4x the growth hardly defines losing
@ mandf The original XBOX sold approximately 24 million units. The XBOX 360 has sold over 80 million units and counting. I don't think that any corporation would ever consider a 300% increase in sales as "losing"? Fanboys on the other hand...
Here: PS2: 157m Xbox: 24m PS3: 80+ X360: 80+ I think your definition of losing is a little bit wrong
All those that replied to me are partially correct. This gen market has grown from last gen We went from just a little bit less than 200million sold to 260 million. Market share this gen is the topic not who gained th e most market share that is nintendo. kudos to the xbox brand for their success but they are still in last place and haven't won the top market share this gen. success they have but that is it. Only once this gen is over then we can say who has won or lost.
You make it sound like RROD didnt happen. Are you MS, who brushed it under a dirty stinky rug?
That's cool. The only thing stopping me from getting one is the price tag.
Think a lot of people are like that, cheap is cheap! In the uk, it's only £50 more because of the free game.
In Australia its $50 more expensive for the PS4 as it has a free game.
I'm surprised the X1 is starting to do this well.
I would like to say based on what numerical dsta did you conclude they're 'doing well'? When MS commented and said their system was hot sales this summer I laughed because at that point we got cut off by them at 30 units per store, PS4 were at 150+ per store at that point. We 'sold out' at 30 till they reopened preorders. We now have a whopping 62 preorders for Xbox One in my store and 352 PS4 preorders. So keep on believing the BS microsoft is telling you even though they won't give numbers. I just attended a meeting with our Xbox Rep and guess what the training was on? How to sell Xbox Ones! A month away and they got employees from all our stores to come out for pizza and tell us why Xbox One is the better choice and how to sell their product. Sony had no need for such a meeting.
I think people forget the XB1 has a better CPU than the PS4. When people talk about the 50 percent the PS4 been better than XB1. They are only comparing the THE 8 gigs of gddr5 to the 8 gigs of DDR3 found in the xb1. Yes here the memory speed is double. But many overlook the XB1 ESRAM 32 MB OF Embedded memory.
Uh no.. It's also because the GPU is faster in the PS4.
Microsoft responded to this a few weeks back and i agree with their response. Ryse looks amazing, while the gameplay may lack, the graphics look as good as anything shown by the PS4! -[PS4's] 18 CU's vs. [Xbox One's] 12 CU's =/= 50% more performance. Multi-core processors have inherent inefficiency with more CU's, so it's simply incorrect to say 50% more GPU. -Adding to that, each of our CU's is running 6% faster. It's not simply a 6% clock speed increase overall. -We have more memory bandwidth. 176gb/sec is peak on paper for GDDR5. Our peak on paper is 272gb/sec. (68gb/sec DDR3 + 204gb/sec on ESRAM). ESRAM can do read/write cycles simultaneously so I see this number mis-quoted. -We have at least 10% more CPU. Not only a faster processor, but a better audio chip also offloading CPU cycles -We understand GPGPU and its importance very well. Microsoft invented Direct Compute, and have been using GPGPU in a shipping product since 2010 - it's called Kinect. -Speaking of GPGPU - we have 3X the coherent bandwidth for GPGPU at 30gb/sec which significantly improves our ability for the CPU to efficiently read data generated by the GPU.
@KNWS That list of reasons was destroyed at neogaf...
wtf are you talking about!! you trolling stop talking bs
Until Sony shows a game that looks 50% better than and xb1 game, this is a mute point.
well said dude.
Until Microsoft shows the power of the cloud it's all a moot point. Also a month away and our microsoft Rep got workers from all our stores together to train us on how to sell Xbox Ones. Sony didn't bother wasting our time. Guess who's not happy with their numbers? Yeah the people the got us together for the BS meeting to tell us how to sell their product.
Don't forget about tiled resources being exclusive to directx 11.2 Being able to convert 6 gigs of memory into 36 mb's is huge
I like some XBox Boots comments on this news, looks like Microsoft's agents are trying even harder to push the XBO through people's ass. please MS boots, stop saying bullshit like "the numbers are gonna be imrpessive" that's totally unrealistic.
Bout time sony been selling out everywhere in days if not hours when they are allowed to be pro-ordered
how come we never get the preorder numbers in any other region but america? What about europe or asia and other regions of the world?
If u live in america wtf u care?
maybe I'm just curious as to whats going on elsewhere in the world? What's the deal with the dick response?
they should bundle it with an awesome world war 2 game.
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