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Submitted by trunkswd 179d ago | rumor

PS4 vs Xbox One - US Pre-Orders Update - Xbox One Gains Ground

"VGChartz has gathered the latest pre-order numbers for the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One in the US. The data is up to the week ending October 19, 2013. The last time the data was collected was the week ending August 24, 2013.

In the latest pre-order data the PlayStation 4 has gained 125,000 pre-orders for a total of 725,000 in the US. The Xbox One has managed to gain ground on the PlayStation 4 as it gained 175,000 pre-orders during the same time frame. The Xbox One currently sits at 525,000 pre-orders. (Battlefield 4, Call of Duty: Ghosts, Dead Rising 3, Forza Motorsport 5, inFamous: Second Son, Killzone: Shadow Fall, Knack, PS4, Ryse: Son of Rome, Watch Dogs, Xbox One)

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JarqueMcLark  +   179d ago | Well said
Great to see Xbox One catching up!
trunkswd  +   179d ago | Well said
Not a surprise being US pre-order figures. It has always been Microsoft's strongest market. However, PlayStation 4 pre-orders are insane.
Lalanana  +   179d ago
Yes, No doubt. Both are getting some really good preorders.
4Sh0w  +   179d ago
hmmm so if these numbers are close the console thats had all bad PR and nobody wants is only 200k behind in game preorders with likely a larger base waiting to make digital purchases and sitting at a little less than a mil console preorders vs a little little more than a mil for the competition= pretty good momentum. Still got to take vg chartz or any unofficial #s with a grain of salt.

Either way I think the important thing is that ALL signs point to us getting 2 great next gen consoles that will remain competitive for long after launch.
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Gamingcapacity  +   179d ago | Well said
@4show
This is america where MS dominates. If these figures are correct and the PS4 is beating the X1 you can be sure PS4 is dominating in the rest of the world where its Sony ground
Eonjay  +   179d ago | Well said
This makes sense. Anyway. why is COD on Xbox One so much higher than all other Xbox One titles when PS4 is more balanced. Why are Xbox players so slanted against Battlefield 4?
NewMonday  +   179d ago | Well said
this is because major USA retailers sold out of PS4 pre-order allocations

so even someone who is crawling would "catch-up" to someone standing still.
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rainslacker  +   179d ago
@4Show

Why do people keep assuming that there is a huge difference between people who want to buy digital on X1 vs PS4? Is it because MS made a big deal about digital since the reveal? It makes no sense because Sony has been pushing digital a lot harder than MS this gen, and it seems to have quite a base of digital users given how the store has grown quite a bit in the last few years.

It seems to me that these numbers show MS doing better than reports on console hardware sales differences, or that X1 owners are going to be buying more games per console sold(attach rate) when the system launches.
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Death  +   179d ago
@Newmonday,

It's VGC so it's pointless to argue these made up numbers. Your comment is based on what though? Standing still is 125,000 pre-orders and Xbox One's 175,000 is crawling? Zero would be standing still. Sold out would be zero. None available is zero. 125,000 is approx 125,000 more than zero. So what are you talking about?

No doubt the PS4 has had extremely good pre-sales by all indications. Why are you trying to discredit Xbox One sales though? It just reeks of insecurity and not grounded in reality at all. Both are doing well, but the PS4 is doing better.
PoSTedUP  +   178d ago
its getting harder and harder to preorder a ps4 in the us, ive completely given up. glad to see an almost equal ammount of KZ preorders as cod n bf, guerrilla deserves it. guerrilla making money is only a good thing for gamers because you know they put 110% into their games.
stevehyphen  +   178d ago
Are there a lot of digital purchasers on Xbox 360? All of the people that I know with 360's would rather buy the physical copy every time.

Other side of the coin

Myself and anyone I know with a ps3 have made multiple digital purchases. PS Plus got me used to digital games on a console, and then plus sales keep coming along and make digital versions cheaper.

BTW I'm not trolling; I just don't understand this mentality that Xbox users will make more digital purchases than ps3 users when my experience has been the opposite.

I'm looking at the sales for this-and next-week on the PS Blog, and I can easily see why I own way more digital games than physical ones.

Edit: Here, and I presume all of Canada, the PSN doesn't charge tax; so, unless a game is on sale in store, it's always cheaper to buy the digital version. I don't know if this applies to other countries though.
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NewMonday  +   178d ago
@Death

just a metaphor, sheesh!
QuickdrawMcgraw  +   178d ago
With MS Out selling Sony almost 2-1 in the US this gen.Sony has sure cut into MS home base.
falviousuk  +   178d ago
yes newmonday trolling crap about the xbox as usual.

States PS4 has sold out of pre-orders which is why the xbox is catching up, yet there were still 125,000 pre-orders made.

This is another example of the idiotic statement made by sony fanboys to spin anything round and around.

N4G should do a trawl and just ban the constant trolling from these non-gamers that are only ever interested in attempting to put the console down regardless of facts.
BattleAxe  +   178d ago
The article should read "Xbox One Gaining Ground in Call of Duty Pre-Orders" LMAO.

Look at those BF4 pre-orders for PS3....just another example of EA's stupid decision to start up a so-called 'strategic partnership'.....this has to be hugely embarrassing to EA's management.
StoutBEER  +   178d ago
@Eonjay Just want to say that not every Xbox player loves CoD before stupid people run their mouths. I hate CoD, spawn killing is the name of the game there. Battlefield 4 is currently the only game I have pre ordered for X1. And Halo is mah baby, where you have to actually aim to take down someone. But yea, its pretty sad to see, I just hope they stay the hell away from my games and stick with CoD. DX
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Brutallyhonest  +   178d ago
Those are impressive number for Killzone :SF. Pretty damn good considering it's competing with the two top multiplatform shooters in the gaming industry. Well deserved. It's a great franchise.

I just can't wait for next gen to start already. I'm making changes to my gaming area (gaming room and adjacent theater) right now in preparation. All new seating and making a few sound upgrades as well. New generation, new toys to enhance the experience. Can't wait!
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abzdine  +   178d ago
these numbers mean nothing cause they only concern pre-ordered games. And let's admit that the case, PS4 games are still over 350000 ahead in global pre-orders.

3 weeks to go guys!!! 3 damn long weeks!!!
Utalkin2me  +   178d ago
@falviousuk

Maybe you could use some logic instead of going into defense mode. Maybe that's all Sony had to left (125,000) to allocate for pre orders, hence afterwards being sold out. Not saying that is what happend.

But keep your little kid rants to yourself next time. You just got put on ignore, so i wont have to deal with you next time.
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NewMonday  +   178d ago
@falviousuk

to explain to you a bit of how retail works

for example 2 companies(A&B) "allocate" only 100k of a product to 100 retailers, 90 of them sellout of product A, while 50 sellout of product B..

..this means customers have a 50% chance of finding product B and only a 10% chance to find product A
minimur12  +   178d ago
'we have just as mamy pre orders as the PS4'
Blackdeath_663  +   178d ago
surprised to see titanfall doing so badly considering how overhyped it was coming out of E3
SegaSaturn669  +   178d ago
@ Eonjay

They want that dog, dude.

Activision finally had a genius idea:

let's copy fable 2 and mix nintendogs into our game!
jmc8888  +   178d ago
Wow...there are some real doozies in this discussion.

Sony fanboys didn't tell everyone that their console had to be online and that you couldn't trade games.

MICROSOFT TOLD THEM.

As I SAID EARLY ON....once Microsoft confirms or denies the rumors that will set the standard that will be talked about.

If Microsoft comes out and says there is game trading and offline restrictions...then there will still be MILLIONS of potential buyers who will STILL THINK THAT....even if they later RETRACT IT.

That's called common sense. When you have everyone's attention, that's when you give them the news.

If you told them the WRONG news, or news that would later be changed (i.e. 180), then they won't have the same opportunity to reach those people and the people those people talked to.

I can sit here and tell you Microsoft told Xbox Fans about these restrictions, and they will still be trying to re-educate their fans for YEARS.

In 2015, there will still be people, because of MICROSOFT, who still think you need to have the Xbox One connected, and all the other 180's.

How people can blame Sony for Microsoft's idiot message is incredibly sad.

The same thing goes with consoles pre-orders. Everybody has been saying it's sold out. Lots of people who want a console are waiting because they were told they're both sold out. Some have been told that the PS4 is out...so they look for an Xbox One. Regardless, what will really drive the story is how each sells outside of the holiday and launch season when both are freely available and in stock.

So that's how you can have both consoles 'sold out', yet some still take orders, and how you can still have hundreds of thousands more sold. Because pre-order standards are different across the board with different companies setting each.

Some are still taking sales. Some aren't. Also the consoles didn't sell out together. Meaning when one really hit a guaranteed preorder sellout, the other didn't, and could continue to be sold.

So people need to look at what these really mean. What it tells you. What it DOESN'T tell you.

Also I don't see VGChartz as a 100 percent accurate and all inclusive of every console and game sold. For example it's notorious for not counting digital game sales.
Ezz2013  +   178d ago
@4sh0w
1. this is Vgchartz ....which is very unreliable site (never trust that site)

2.even if we believe those numbers
this is USA (the Holy Grail for xbox)
and the fact that ps4 is beating it in pre-orders in it own home.. tell the whole story
ps4 is pretty much gonna dominate the world wide sales
and having more pre-orders in USA too is not helping Xbox case at all
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JokesOnYou  +   178d ago
Just as I thought X1 is doing very well despite the initial bad PR soon it will lead in the US once folks get their hands on it, then millions can dismiss the silly rumors and misinformation. That said its vg chartz so its just "ballpark" figures. Also yes micro has been leading the digital future vision which alot of X1 gamers are looking forward too so it only makes sense that X1 will see MORE digital sales than ps4, nobody saying both wont have more than last gen but clearly this is something by design that micro looks to move forward and establish with X1. In fact sonys stance is completely neutral, while micro is promoting it as the future and the way they are going forward/planning.
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rainslacker  +   178d ago
@Jokes

I was actually with you on your comment until this:

"Also yes micro has been leading the digital future vision which alot of X1 gamers are looking forward too so it only makes sense that X1 will see MORE digital sales than ps4"

Why do you say that? The initial backlash and lack or pre-orders wasn't because Xbox fans were looking forward to the digital future that MS was giving them. It also wasn't all from Sony fan boys. It seems to me many Xbox fans aren't too inclined towards a digital future.

Look, I'm sure there are a lot of people that are into digital. There were a lot this gen. The number of digital software sold has risen dramatically this gen, particularly in the last year, but it is still not close to retail purchases, especially in the home console market. In this, one has to assume, since these numbers aren't separated when reported by third parties, that the amount of digital content being sold between each system should be relatively even. I also highly doubt that a massive influx of people are eagerly anticipating buying all their games digitally come a new generation, as most of the kinks that hold DD back still exist. At this point in time there are just too many questions left unanswered about how much control a person has over those purchases, and if those purchases will even last past a single generation. DD is popular on PC, but consoles are an entirely different beast in this regard. In fact, some reports are already saying that it's unclear how PS1/2/3 digital purchases will carry on in the future, or wonder why PS1/2 isn't available through emulation on the PS4.

For my part, there is no way I would buy DD from any company that has shown such an anti-consumer stance on the idea of DD. What it all boils down to is that MS wanted control over my purchases, but offered little in the way of making that a attractive value to me.

"In fact sonys stance is completely neutral, while micro is promoting it as the future and the way they are going forward/planning."

That's right, but Sony has also been promoting DD heavily these past few years through PS+, PS+ sales, heavy redesigns for their stores, pre-loading games for day one release, etc. Sony hasn't been slouching, but they leave the choice up to the customer. In the end, Sony has made DD more attractive by not showing off that they want to control the software sold on their system, when in fact, it's not much different from what MS or other DD markets offer. They certainly don't tout it as the future, because they know that retail still trumps digital in a big way.

Edit:
One other thing to note. Given that COD, a highly successful multi-plat title is relatively even with a slight edge on XB1 mean that the ratio of people that are buying it is about even across both consoles. I'm just asking for anyone to show any sort of evidence that a significant number of people buying an X1 are anticipating getting it digitally. I haven't seen a single report that suggests this. The only ones saying this are some people on forums, and their logic doesn't really make any sense.
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Xer0_SiN  +   178d ago
4show: the numbers are nothing to go by console number wise. there are a lot of people that pre orderd consoles but didnt pre order games.
Fil101  +   178d ago
Hmmm some people are jus week I can`t forgive microsoft for the bs they tried to pull when they first annouced the xbone, ps4 for me
PSX04  +   178d ago
playstation 4 still the best in the final result, i want to ask the Americans about the love story with Microsoft ???
boldstarr  +   178d ago
Time to buy SONY Stocks
aCasualGamer  +   178d ago
The number one nextgen sports title that truly has nextgen visuals, nba 2k14, isn't on the Xbox One top ten list...

..in USA where the sports console is considered to be Xbox One...

...is kinda surprising.
abradley  +   178d ago
I'd love to have known what the Wii U pre-orders were so we could roughly judge the info against what they sold in the first month. Might have given us a better idea on how many each next gen will sell in the coming month.

Can't find the figures anywhere online so if someone does run into them, please PM me with the link. Cheers.
aceitman  +   179d ago
sonys preorder numbers 1,518,249 - ms has 1,151,980 sony ahead by 366,980 sony is doing well for being ms territory .
Idba  +   179d ago
agreed.
obelix01  +   179d ago
Disagreed.
MorePowerOfGreen  +   179d ago
Disagreed again.

MSFT sells XB1 on Xbox live, in Microsoft stores and MSFT websites. XB1 is ahead of PS4. Wish MSFT had XB1 selling in all the places PS4 is though.

Also XB1 software tracking is pointless now. Xbox gamers will be going digital, waiting for those XB1 sharing features to return.
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thrust  +   179d ago
How do you know this?
Darrius Cole  +   179d ago
Where did these numbers come from?
mxrider2199  +   178d ago
@ morepowerofgreen why is everyone claiming this digital BS for Xbox one PS3 has had digital downloads for what 2 years now? so they have a way bigger base who would like to digitally DL then xbox does so even then the numbers could be even worse
nukeitall  +   178d ago
Whatever number you get at this point is pointless, because supply is constrained for both MS and Sony.

It says nothing about demand, but rather at best about the supply.

Even then, the grand scheme of even a few million units is miniscule for the overall lifetime sales.

To even get an indication you really have to wait until next holiday when more of the games are out, the direction is clear and the console is in peoples hand and the word of mouth and hype train starts.

It is pointless and too early to tell is my point!
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   179d ago
These are imaginary numbers.Completely made up.

Wait for official, released numbers before anyone starts thumping their chests.
mhunterjr  +   179d ago
Or just don't pump your chests at all... In the last two generations, no one has "lost" as they've all made a lot of money and served a lot of customers. consoles sold isn't a great 'winners' metric as there is a bigger picture (software attach rate, online services, etc) The wii u might be the first 'loser' since the dreamcast, but its not out of the fight yet.
ArchangelMike  +   179d ago
WOW!!! I really did not expect the PS4 pre-ordes to surpass the XbOne pre-orders on US soil. I thought it was just world wide pre-orders. I guess at launch PS4 will be clear in the lead.

The other thing that is interesting though is that all the multiplatform games (except COD:Ghost) are selling better on PS4 than XbOne.
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thrust  +   179d ago
Ps4 pre orders will not surpass in USA your right
Computersaysno  +   179d ago
Its pretty astounding if PS4 can even beat Xbox one in North America only by a slim margin. Xbox 360 has a massive massive market share lead over PS3 there.

Sony look like they are going to take vast chunks out of Microsoft's primary number 1 market very early on!

God knows what the sales are going to look like in current Sony lead markets.
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Caffo01  +   179d ago
@jr85prix
rofl the first exclusive on xbone is on 5th place with only 90k preorders, it seems xbone fans are buying it solely for (inferior) multiplatform titles..
Death  +   178d ago
@Caffo01,

Maybe they buy the inferior versions for the superior online service? Some actually prefer game play and the overall gaming experience over graphics. Just a thought.
bryam1982  +   178d ago
And this.is USA Just imagine how well is ps4 kicking ass in europe and around.the.world poor xbone
Caffo01  +   178d ago
@death
Don't make me laugh.. Superior online service?sure, like the one that used to make users pay for p2p while ps3 had dedicated servers for first party games and was free? the one you have to pay to access netflix and other services? The one that tried to screw us with the drm? Yeah, that's the better online service /s
Death  +   178d ago
Caff,

Once again, it comes down to online play. Ease of access and ease of use make it the better choice. It looks like Sony is making big strides with the PS4. If free access to Netflix makes the gaming experience better for you, then that is great. To me,being able to access all of my friends, start up a group chat regardless where they are online and send out a group invite makes online more fun. As for dedicated servers, how did that make your game experience better than mine? I honestly have no idea when I played on a server or over p2p. Isn't that the important part?

As for the whole DRM thing, I absolutely liked the idea of being able to rip all my games to my consoles HDD and access them from anywhere and any time. All my consoles are connected 24/7 already and I've never gone 24 hours without service. Even if I ever do, I own a cell phone that I can use as a hotspot to transfer the small file needed once every 24 hours to verify my library.
allformats  +   179d ago
Nice to see. The Watch Dogs and Driveclub affected Sony. But PS4 still strong.
ape007  +   179d ago
yeah but they still have to make a kinectless SKU at 350$

i guess they're testing the waters with mandatory kinect 2.0 the first 6 months or so till E3 and see if the snap/voice command/skype/camera integration are gonna catch with people or not

i say they'll introduce a white kinectless xbox one at 350$ after showing halo 5 and releasing Titanfall This E3, mark my words
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UncleGermrod  +   179d ago
I also think they will wait to see how well the kinect sku sells at 500, and if they need to then they may sell a second sku with out it. I don't know how soon, but a year seems a bit early. I wouldn't be all too surprised though if they do indeed make a move around fall 2014 with halo/titanfall. Then again, I would think MS would rely on these titles to sell systems next fall rather than drop price...but we'll see
Nocando  +   178d ago
Microsoft will never, ever release a Kinectless box. So tired of seeing this ignorant statement.
Blaze929  +   179d ago
places here in Maryland have been taking PS4 pre orders since february vs Xbox One pre orders since August.

5 month difference in the states and there's only a ~200,000 difference with Xbox One gaining ground quickly at a higher price point and "bad PR".

I think that's very important to notice. And i don't know why people are like "this is america where microsoft dominates."

wut? They've only been successful for one generation vs Sony's three. The fact that its the USA means nothing seeing as the playstation brand is more known and popular.
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Dno  +   179d ago
M$ has killed sony here in the USA since 2005 that's 8 years. Kids have been born and grew up on the xbox brand now. this post you wrote is invalid.

Its a huge thing that sony is beating M$ here in the US just like it was when M$ we beating sony.
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Aceman18  +   178d ago
@Dno

Blaze is right it's only ONE generation as the PS3 is Sony 3rd generation system, and MS 2nd generation system.

Microsoft has only done well for ONE generation here in the USA. so it's not a big deal that it has swung the other way since Sony has been in the gaming business for almost 20 YEARS.
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nypifisel  +   178d ago
What kind of silliness is this? I grew up with Nintendo consoles that doesn't mean I'll exclusively buy them. When PS1 came out my dad bought that for me cause he thought it was a better value with games being cheaper for instance and also of course the stellar new games. Brand loyalty is stupid. The PS4 will lead in the US for the simple fact that it is cheaper - and remarkably a more powerful machine as well.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   178d ago
@Jarque Don't worry about the disagrees. N4G and its anti Xbox nonsense is practiced daily here. Your disagrees will only get worse I'm afraid.

I don't why fanboys can't be happy with whatever console they have. And simply ignore the console they obviously hate.

Yeah, the higher priced console is surprisingly gaining ground.

Sony will rule this holiday season none the less. Next year should be interesting though. After holidays.
x5exotic  +   178d ago
Another reason not to buy X-box: More cod fans.

(replace the letter n with g in the last word if you will... hehe; N 4 G)
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TechMech2  +   178d ago
Another reason not to buy a ps4: more fanboys
GamerzElite  +   178d ago
Most hyped game Ryse: Son of Rome - 82,888
malokevi  +   178d ago
Count me in on that. Digidownload day 1.
dale_denton  +   178d ago
lol just for CoD
malokevi  +   178d ago
For all the ranting from PS4 fans about multiplat preorders on PS4 killing those on XB360, this list sure doesn't speak to that. COD is quite a lot higher on the XB1 than it is on the PS4.

I guess it goes to show where the casual audience is heading.
dmitrijs88  +   178d ago
X1 the console of call of duty
TechMech2  +   178d ago
X1 the console of halo and online multiplayer
1Victor  +   178d ago
FAKE AND BAKED numbers as always
CRAIG667  +   178d ago
Here in the UK me and most of my friends are getting the xbox first, I will be buying both consoles but a few people I know will just stick with the xbox.
Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II  +   178d ago
No its not it doesnt deserve to.
RAGE91  +   178d ago
Dunno Why so many disagrees, I'm an Xbox fan and think it's great that the PS4 is doing well. The PS3 fell short current gen even though it caught up at the end and it was a great console. I like many many 360 owners, had a ps2. I loved it, and think that PS4 deserves recognition.
xtremeimport  +   178d ago
Wow. Considering all the hype and all the bragging xboxfans have been doing about Titan fall, it sits at the bottom of games people actually want to play.

Destiny which isnt even a launch titles is ahead of it. that really surprises me.
kenshiro100  +   178d ago
If we're to go by these numbers, then Sony is on fire.Killzone SF looks very impressive so far.
LordHiggens  +   178d ago
I'm shocked it's that high...gamers have a really short memory.
cellfluid  +   178d ago
Only because ps4 can no longer b preorderd.. only reason.. Lolol
Walker  +   179d ago
I think in the end PS4 will beat Xbox One in terms of selling
trunkswd  +   179d ago
No matter who sells more, they will both be successful for Sony and Microsoft.
JarqueMcLark  +   179d ago
In the USA? I doubt it. Worldwide? Almost definitely.
Idba  +   179d ago
Maybe if they give the americans something they cant say no to :P
ape007  +   179d ago
we still don't know the effect of implementing dedicated servers for all games, that effect will show its full potential with a 399$ or a 350$ kinectless Xbox Box one
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Revolver_X_  +   178d ago
COD Ghosts and BF4 are not using X1's dedicated servers. Why do you fanboys think every X1 game will use them. Your living in a dream. Only exclusives will use dedicated servers. Just like last gen where both consoles had dedicated servers for exclusives.
Idba  +   179d ago
Ryse : 82,888 US pre-orders
DR3: 86,648 US pre-orders
Forza: 90,573 US pre-orders

= 260,109

Kilzone : 250,155 US preorders.

It seems like more xbox gamers in the US are converting to PS gamers :P
4Sh0w  +   179d ago
nah I think more xbox gamers are just waiting to make their digital purchase.

Either way I dont get your point based on the info you highlighted 260k is more than 250k so how does that indicate xbox gamers moving to ps4? lol, I take it you didnt do well in debate class. The only thing that points to is that the xbox fanbase purchases are split over 3 games, while ps4 gamers pretty much are going for KZ exclusive.
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sic_chops  +   179d ago
Yeah, and start filling up that non-replacable hard drive.
FunAndGun  +   179d ago
HEY!

Whenever Sony/PS3 fans defended sales figures because of the number of games and variety of games, that was never good for 360 gamers.

Now that there is a moment of variety for X1 gamers, NOW it is ok that each game doesn't have 250,000 pre-orders because the sales are spread out?
YodaCracker  +   179d ago
Exactly! Again and again people would say that PS3 exclusives didn't sell as well because PS3 owners had more to choose from. Now Xbox One owners will have more to choose from, so that argument no longer matters!
Foxhound922  +   178d ago
Man your trolling never ends. You do realize that people have been doing digital purchases on the ps3 for years now right? Also, how does that explain that KZ has the same amount of preorders as the entire xbox exclusive line up? It's funny to watch you try and spin facts to make it seem that the x1 is doing better than it is.

Not to mention that this is US numbers, the ONLY area Microsoft can compete in.
AD705  +   178d ago
"nah I think more xbox gamers are just waiting to make their digital purchase."

You can say the same thing about the ps4, the ps3 has been doing digital distribution for years now and the ps4 will continue that.

There are just as many people waiting on their digital releases on the ps4 as they are on the xbx one.
WarThunder  +   178d ago
You act like, PS4 users can not make their digital purchase.

http://www.computerandvideo...

Delusional MS fanboys are Delusional....
4Sh0w  +   178d ago
FunandGun well see thats where you're wrong I never said anything about variety being why X1 one games arent selling better than KZ. "Reading is fundamental" I simply resonded to his invalid assumption and pointed out his poor logic that 260k vs 250k DOES NOT MEAN XBOX GAMERS ARE CONVERTING TO PS GAMERS.

Foxhound it doesn't matter if ps3 gamers(so could 360 gamers) buy digital games before. Most of last gen it was arcade/psn titles not full retail AAA games and only late this gen have both made more big titles available for download day one. FACT micro is the one who pushed digital strongly THIS GEN, lol most of the controversy comes from this and its well known micro is on record saying some form of the "family sharing plan" is coming back, alot of xbox informed gamers are anticpating this of course sony could do the same but they certainly arent talking about it. This site is a small indicator as there are far more xbox fans who say they are going all digital. When we see official sales dont be shocked when you hear how many more xbox game sales are digital. Also its doesnt matter if UK and US is only where micro can compete at the end of the day 80mil sold mostly in 2 regions is still same money spent as 80mil in 5 regions.

Nobody said sony doesnt do digital but youte lying if you say micro has not been at the forefront pushing digital for next gen, which is exactly why its a factor for preorder #s. Logic is logic. As usual you guys missed the point or convenient overlook the obvious.
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Juangie3  +   178d ago
Why does everyone keep saying ppl will wait for digital on xbox when there is no option to upgrade the harddrive. If I did not have the option to upgrade i'd be limiting my digital purchases.
Revolver_X_  +   178d ago
MS leads the digital market? Lol, thx for that laugh. XBL copying PSN+ free games isnt XBL playing catchup? BtW Every PS4 launch game is on PSN and has been since E3.
Foxhound922  +   178d ago
@4show

You really have no clue how the retail and digital market work do you? I feel like I'm on a tilt o whirl with all the spin from your posts.
4Sh0w  +   178d ago
"Why does everyone keep saying ppl will wait for digital on xbox when there is no option to upgrade the harddrive."

Why does that matter the digital games are tied to your account/gamertag you can fit alot of games on the HDD, delete them, redownload old ones in years when you want to play again, its always available on xbl, plus you can save other content to externals.

Revolver how is giving free games copying? Free didnt start with sony and actually dont you keep xbox free games even without a active account? ooops

Foxhound again you cant dispute micro THIS GEN has so far pushed for a digital online structure than sony, hell if they had their way with initial plans that was exactly the eventual goal, so you rant and call names because yo know its true.

lol this is why its hard to explain anything to misinformed people who already have a stubborn opinions based on bad info.
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moparful99  +   178d ago
@4show If Microsoft was leading the "digital revolution" in gaming then please explain to me how Sony brought day 1 digital sales and digital prebuying to the PS3 before Microsoft had it on the 360? You are dead wrong man.. Sony is also leading the charge with their game streaming and digital backwards compatibility on the PS4..
4Sh0w  +   178d ago
360/XBL allowed digital sales its entire life cycle. The point is not just having it "available" as an option as Ive stated a thousand times now the point is micro is push8ng it as they preferred way to game going forward.

Sept 3 2013
"Microsoft Talks Digital-Only Future, Kinect, and Why Xbox One is Worth $100 More Than PlayStation 4"

"Penello said the company plans to support trading, loaning, and reselling of digital games down the road."
http://www.gamespot.com/art...

June 13 2013
"Xbox One: “We believe the digital world is better” says Microsoft"
http://www.vg247.com/2013/0...

June 20 2013
"Microsoft's Vision Of A Digital Future Is Delayed, But Still Alive"
http://www.gameinformer.com...

Need I go on????

IGN "PS4: Sony Sees a Disc-Based Future"
http://www.gamespot.com/for...

See the difference micro even AFTER the drm mess is promoting and leading the push to all digital while sony at best is just along for the ride= available. Hell Gaikai isnt on the same level as Azure and both are planning BC support, with no dates as far as we know micro could do it first but either way that speaks to just a workaround because neither consoles hardware is BC thats not because they want a digital future.

Case Closed.
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thrust  +   179d ago
Ok mate :) this is usa Sony is not going to win there!
GalacticEmpire  +   179d ago
I bet PS fans said something similar near the end of the PS2 gen.
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Tornado  +   179d ago
But the truth is, Sony is winning :D :D :D LOL
Foxhound922  +   178d ago
Actually...they are. Sony has higher numbers(even in the us), better hardware, better price, more hype, more positive feedback, more talented developers, it's releasing in almost double the countries at launch, and more consoles are allocated at launch. Since Ms is losing on their home turf, expect the rest of the world to be even more grim for the x1. To deny this, you could be labeled as delusional at best.
MELMAN26  +   179d ago
I would argue that the killzone is the only next gen ps4 exclusive worth getting.

But yes, the numbers dont lie
GalacticEmpire  +   179d ago
Not an argument, it's an opinion and a dodgy one.
DevilishSix  +   178d ago
Funny you say Killzone is the only next gen PS4 exclusive worth getting, because I was looking at Ryse, Forza, and DR3 and thinking that Killzone was the only exclusive worth getting from either system.

and George has left on a high note.
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u got owned  +   178d ago
@DevilishSix

If we go by track record Forza franchise has a better overall score in reviews score than Killzone.

Killzone has a lot of pre-order but then again its the only real exclusive PS4 has, unless you think knack is a good game.
moparful99  +   178d ago
Lol @ Xbox fans using the fact that they have 2 more exclusives at launch in their argument.... ohhh the irony in that argument... How many 360 exclusives have come out this year? facepalm
nirwanda  +   179d ago
Why would anyone preorder forza you can get the game for free when you buy an xbone.
dethpuck  +   178d ago
Not in the us.
MELMAN26  +   179d ago
@galacticempire

So you are saying that Knack is an exclusive worth pre ordering for your ps4.
AceofStaves  +   178d ago
Perhaps not on its own, but when combined with other games Sony's offering, for some of us, it is.
strickers  +   178d ago
I take it you don't have kids? When you gain some life experience, you may feel different. I have a 9 year old gamer and on PS4 we have loads to share. More evidence of XB fans being kids that know bugger all.
u got owned  +   178d ago
@ strickers

what... for a who has kids you are really naive. Im 30+ years old and dont have kids and i think Knack is crap. Do that makes me a kids that know bugger all? Get out...
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B-radical  +   179d ago
Your comparing a fps to 3 different game genres :-/
Volkama  +   179d ago
Why do people pre-order games? Is there concern that they will sell out, or is it for the pre-order bonuses?
Veneno  +   178d ago
In my experience if I didn't pre order a game that was popular I would not get a copy on day one or i would have to go to different shops til I found one because they do sell out. Or if I didnt pre order a game that was more niche than the shops wouldnt carry it at all or not until days or weeks after launch. I think there's just too many games out now for any retailer to have room for each and every one.
xDHAV0K24x  +   178d ago
Mostly for bonus content
TRD4L1fe  +   179d ago
you realize you comment just means that killzone is the only exclusive ps4 game worth having at launch while xb1 owners are decided which game to get first
FunAndGun  +   179d ago
Yeah, that same thing has been happing all this past gen.

PS3 = many and varied exclusive games
360 = Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable

Maybe you guys understand how having a selection feels now.
MELMAN26  +   179d ago
If Ryse was the only game available for me to see what the console is truly capable of, I would probably pre order Ryse, however I have a choice between 4 games. And I am personally still undecided which is why I have not preoreded a single game (I may get all).

I would hardly say that killzone is a system seller, but if you already have your mind made up that this is the console you are going to buy, you will probably get the best and most impressive looking game on that system.

@funandgun
My point exactly!
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XboxFun  +   179d ago
Actually KZ is the ONLY game to order for PS4 while the masses get a choice of great launch line up for the Xbox One.
FunAndGun  +   179d ago
X1 does have a great launch line up, but will that continue in the coming years? Using this past generation as an example...it doesn't look likely.

Your steak dinner now will be an empty plate in the future. While PS4 will treat me to an unlimited buffet for life! lol
ABeastNamedTariq  +   179d ago
Lol, whatever you say.
XboxFun  +   179d ago
Unlimited? You guys act like theirs this great sea of exclusives that everyone is rushing the stores to get...

Last I checked GTA and CoD were gangbusters on the PS3. Both multiplat games, while your exclusives hardly break even.

But if you guys like getting your games late in a console cycle while we have had a huge back library from the beginning then by all means stick with Sony.
Stevino123  +   178d ago
People still play Killzone 2 & 3? Uncharted 3? Uncharted 2? Hell, I'll replay all of these just because they are that amazing. Other than recycling Gears and Halo. :) I embrace the word Fanboy.
MysticStrummer  +   178d ago
"But if you guys like getting your games late in a console cycle while we have had a huge back library from the beginning then by all means stick with Sony."

As the XBox folk correctly pointed out all this generation, the vast majority of games are multi plats. Buying a single console comes down to which exclusives you like better. For myself and many others, every gamer I know in real life actually, that means Playstation and it's not even close.

Judging a console by a list of launch games is beyond idiotic. History says Sony's console will win the exclusive battle, while MS's will start strong and then fade. Learning from history has never been a strong point of the human race in general though.

I waited to get a PS3 instead of jumping on the 360 bandwagon like all my friends did and never lacked a game to play, despite the year's head start of games the 360 had. Now none of my friends game on 360 and none of them wants an XB1, so your blanket statement doesn't make much sense at all to me.
strickers  +   178d ago
Dull games. Forza is a good game. Early word on Ryse is that it is not good.
DR is a boring series. KI is 2nd rate. Unlike some of you guys, I've actually played all these series.
I bet you've not spent 50 hours loving each KZ online AND been bored by DR/ KI regardless of format.
Talking out your ass
Volkama  +   178d ago
"I waited to get a PS3 instead of jumping on the 360 bandwagon like all my friends did and never lacked a game to play"

You have a short or (more likely) selective memory. While you were waiting for your PS3 your friends were playing the likes of Call of Duty 2 and Gears of War. While you were waiting for Lair to show us all what the Cell and Blu-ray could do your friends were playing Mass Effect and Bioshock.

360 blasted out critically and publicly acclaimed games for it's early years, PS3 started slow but kept them coming for a bit longer.

I would not swap those early games for any Uncharted, TLOU, God of War or Killzone but I'd accept that someone else loves them and I accept that they are good games in their own right.

It's OK to acknowledge good games on both platforms, and it's better than OK to anticipate good games on both new platforms.
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TechMech2  +   178d ago
Or it means there are more ps fanboys than Xbox fanboys....
NoMercyOnlyRage  +   179d ago
i'd like to see numbers for canada .
trunkswd  +   179d ago
Canada numbers are more than likely around 10 percent the US numbers.
NoMercyOnlyRage  +   179d ago
no kidding
can 34.88 million
us 313.9 million
joecanada  +   178d ago
Canada numbers are similar to U.S. most of the time, same ads, promos, prices, etc... but with 1/10th the population, hence 1/10 of orders generally.
a_adji  +   179d ago
I'm in the UK and it's clear MS built the box for a US-centric audience. It's good to see both systems doing well because it's great for gamers and the industry.

I have my Wii U at the mo but I'm defecting from the xbox to the ps4 this time around because they have the better price point and games thus far.

Once Titanfalls drops I am on the big box again though.
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MELMAN26  +   179d ago
Thank you! Now this is a good reason stick with the ps4, THE PRICE. The next gen exclusives arent there yet, multiplayer games will be better on the xb1 plus the xb1 has more next gen games. These are the reasons I am gettin an xb1 first then a ps4 later when they bring more next gen exclusives.

@abeastnamedtariq
If he is into indie games then sure, I am personally not getting a next gen console to play games that can be ran on my cell phone. I want the heavy hitters, everything else is secondary.
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ABeastNamedTariq  +   179d ago
Lol, the exclusives are obviously there (to him) since he's getting the PS4 first.
Darrius Cole  +   179d ago
You don't know whether multi-player will be better on the XB1 or not.

I wouldn't say that the XB1 has more next gen games either. We also don't know whether what games we will be looking at a year out.
mcstorm  +   179d ago
@a_adji for me the WiiU has the best lineup of games between now and the beginning of next year. I have a Xbox one on pre order with KI and Forza 5 but the test of my pre order games have been Pikmin 3, Zelda WindWaker HD, Wonderful101, Sonic Lost Worlds, Mario World 3D, Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros, Donkey Kong and Pokémon X.

I decided to have the next few months off FPS games as I have found my self getting bored of them after hammering them over the last 8 years but with the games I have said above im sure there is enough to pick from before the One or PS4 has the games you crave.

For me no matter what type of gamer you are it is a great time to be a gamer as the WiiU, Xbox One, PS4, 3DS, PSV, Xbox 360 and PS3 all have must own games on them.
InTheLab  +   179d ago
You guys need to go out and pre order inFamous
ABeastNamedTariq  +   179d ago
I'll be doing that on November 16th! :)

I can't wait until that comes out.
NoMercyOnlyRage  +   179d ago
why ? it's due out for release in FEB? i'd rather wait it out til the last few weeks of release.
jocomat9  +   178d ago
waiting to buy digitally
xDHAV0K24x  +   178d ago
@lab

I'll wait for another Prototype xD
Derajcan2  +   179d ago
Expected really, ps4 will so more but xbox will still a good amount
Animal Mutha 76  +   179d ago
Great numbers all round but I really dislike the way in which the 'pre order' is now used to judge the success of a product before its even in the public domain. Its almost like a political opinion poll in terms of trying to determine a likely outcome.

The pre order was introduced to ensure product availability in a situation where supply was limited (such as new consoles where its properly used). Now its been bastardized by companies into a method of securing purchases, up-selling 'special' editions and features and/or predicting sales patterns and manufacturing volumes.

I used to like the days when a games sales performance wasn't known before it even hit retail, and when a purchasing decision wasn't influenced by what plastic figurine comes in the box or how big a night vision camera they can get away with charging you £200 for or what gun texture is included to make you look hard.

I know I'm old fashioned but there are no surprises anymore (or very few anyway)...
Volkama  +   179d ago
You can even pre-order digital downloads. It's just not right.
ABeastNamedTariq  +   179d ago
Glad to see Knack in the top 10. It looks really fun to me.
ape007  +   179d ago
agreed, knack, super mario 3D world and DK Tropical freeze in feb 2014

dem good times
ABeastNamedTariq  +   179d ago
I'll definitely play those when I get a Wii U, which is whenever Smash Bros. comes out. But I'll admit, the wait has been hard. Wind Waker HD almost made me give in!
Amigaengine  +   179d ago
I just want to play the games
deviouslight  +   179d ago
I think that we see more preorders because the xbox one is still taking preorders and the ps4 is holding some supply off to be on the shelves
danny818  +   178d ago
I really hope you are right my friend! I was wasn't able to preorder mine and I really hope I can find one at the shelves day one!
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twinspectre  +   179d ago
if XBone sell more than PS4 , i'm sorry but Mericans are Not Gamers #DealWithIt
http://www.youtube.com/watc... this is for the PLAYERS , XBONE FANBOYS can you guys get what this video means ????
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xboned_you  +   179d ago
Lol you sound mad about something
twinspectre  +   178d ago
no , but i start to think Mericans are not Gamers
Ashby_JC  +   178d ago
I pre ordered a XB1. Dont really care if it sells less then the PS4 as long as it sells and is a success is fine with me.

We all have owned a PS at some point. Its people like you who think you have to stay loyal to one company for what ever reason.

From Colecovision to XB1/Ps4 ... I play games. You should try it and stop trying to dictate what a gamer is.
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Serjikal_Strike  +   179d ago
Activision wants GTA5 numbers?
I don't see that happening this year or any year after this ....
CoD will do ok, but no where near GTA5
YodaCracker  +   179d ago
I'm surprised to see the Xbox One so close to the PS4 in preorders considering the $100 higher price tag and all the lingering harsh feelings over the old policies.

Not to mention, the Xbox One is going to appeal to a much broader audience than just gamers - the kind that does not preorder so won't show up on this chart as a potential customer.
Ashby_JC  +   178d ago
Im surprised and NOT surprised.

The system has some solid launch games (which is attracting me...I have never purchased a launch system) The BAD PR and just all around negative aura surrounding the system im sure is hurting pre-orders

But at the end of the day. Not everyone pre-orders and there are millions who are not getting either system for awhile.

This whole back and forth...unfortunetly wont stop anytime soon or ever. Once the systems are out...the games played. People will argue about anything and everything on the NET.
TheFallenAngel  +   179d ago
I think shadow fall is taking players from cod and battlefield.
TheFutureIsBlue  +   179d ago
Yeah, it's crazy they are actually up there with 2 big fps franchises. I think a lot of people see Killzone as "true next-gen" judging by the videos they have seen. It's not being held back by this gen. Good job GG =D
dethpuck  +   178d ago
Only in the killzone universe. Battlefield is way better than any killzone game. CID players will get Cod. I just hope there are players on killzone by the time I get my ps4
TheFallenAngel  +   178d ago
Your opinion. I think Killzone is better than any battlefield. That's my opinion. With shadow fall being 60fps I think it will attract more people since is going to be quick and more responsive. personally in getting FIFA, shadow fall and cod.
cjflora  +   178d ago
There are still people playing Killzone 2 and 3 online so you will be fine.
strickers  +   178d ago
Well, I went back to KZ3 recently with some friends. We dudby struggle to find a game and it was still fun.
jgrigs09  +   179d ago
I wonder what the amount of consoles will be sold at the end of the year. Some people are just probably waiting for christmas to get some good deals. Goes for both consoles. Either way, Xbox one it seems to look like its gaining some grounds. I'm curious to see what it's like in other countries.
svoulis  +   179d ago
I don't get this article. (If you can call it that)

Are they assuming that each pre-order documented is one per household? Is this how they figured it out? Do they assume that each person who ordered a PS4 and Xbox One ONLY pre-ordered one game?

This article is non-sense. I mean the only way to tell is when the systems come out.

But by the looks of it I still see PS4 on top by a great amount.

3. Killzone: Shadow Fall - 250,155

5. Forza Motorsport 5 - 90,573
6. Dead Rising 3 - 86,648
7. Ryse: Son of Rome - 82,888

Total Pre orders for exclusives = 260,109 total for Xbox One

That is scary to me. Ryse Looks like its going to be an awesome game. I think Xbox Fans are too afraid to jump ship just yet to Xbox One. Where as it looks like more people are willing to trust Sony and get a PS4.

Here is an example of what I mean.
*US ONLY*

COD GHOST 360 - 673,015

COD GHOST Xbox One - 329,032

COD GHOST PS3 - 326,733

COD GHOST PS4 - 298,180

Its sad to see that COD is the system seller for Xbox One. And the numbers aren't more evenly spread out. I would like to see Ryse become IP much like God of War did, but with low pre-order numbers its gonna be hard to pull off.
UncleGermrod  +   179d ago
Don't forget that with ganes like CoD etc., they have an install base already and the midnight launches are huge, as well as added preorder bonuses. I think a new game like ryse cannot be judged only on preorders. I know as of this writing, I want the game, but I just plan on walking in and grabbing it. No need to pre-order IMO
svoulis  +   178d ago
Yea I guess, but when you look at it from a exclusive perspective, you have to take into account that all 3 games combined have the total pre-orders of ONE PS4 game, that is in my eyes the wow factor.

Microsoft has to be somewhat worried if this is a representation of what to expect. If you plan on grabbing it and not pre-ordering it, couldn't that be said for most games these days.

It's been years, and I mean YEARS where I couldn't go into a store and pick up a copy of a game I wanted Pre-ordered or not. Evn GTA V I saw sitting on shelves same day not selling OUT.

I remember back in the day when you HAD to pre-order or you were waiting for weeks sometimes.

EDIT: The point I am trying to make is that if people are always saying exclusive this exclusive that then how come they aren't all pre-ordering "the best" exclusives for Xbox One? Microsoft expects these games to be system sellers, that is why they invest heavily into them.

There is NO WAY Capcom isn't worried by this, considering the financial crisis they are in rightt now. But since these numbers are all we have to go by, I still think this article is garbo, it shows and means nothing.
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alb1899  +   178d ago
After all what happened with the x1 you guys don't see as a good news to Microsoft that the preorders are starting to top ps4. I mean 25,000 more and it will increase as the day launch approach.
After we se the reviews of the launch games and people start to talk about what they are playing.... X1 will go up and I can tell you that by the time TITANFALL is out they will be on top in USA.
REMEMBER I SAID IT FIRST!!!
strickers  +   178d ago
Titanfall is almost confirmed multi plat by Major Nelson today. Says he's really not worried if it goes to PS4 :-). I still don't want it.
Only XB exclusives I would consider are Ryse and Sunset Overdrive. Just like 360, there will almost no games to miss.
L4D and Gears were the only 2 on 360 that didn't come to PS3 that I would've missed. Luckily I had a launch 360 played Gears1 / L4D1 and 2 before it died. I didn't buy another.
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alb1899  +   178d ago
Titan fall is exclusive because when it launch if you want to play it for next Gen you have to buy an X1........if is time exclusive or not until now is just speculation.
Ashby_JC  +   178d ago
Pre -order numbers for software are not actual numbers. I havent pre-ordered ANY game ever.

GTA5...I walked into the store on release day. Made my purchase and walked out. (no pre order needed)

It will be the same for PS4 or XB1. Software rarely sells out.
theXtReMe1  +   179d ago
Why does anybody care how many systems each respective manufacturer sells? Do you have a vested interest in the corporations? It shows what I was talking about in my most recent blog. People seem more interested in sales numbers and jumping on the bandwagon of their favorite system instead of enjoying the games for what they are and not what game sites and forums, tell us they should be.

Yet, it seems sales numbers and preorder figures make gamers feel better about the purchase they are about to make. Like they are somehow validated for the choice they made in hardware, because their system sold 10 more units than the next. The only way these numbers make any sense, is if you were an investor who has that vested interest in one of these companies. Even then, it is trivial, because anything can happen in between now and the launch of the systems. Whether that be shortages, hardware defects or multitude of other issues that would drive the profit, if any, down or totally negate it.

Too many gamers seem to care more about sales numbers and validating their purchases than they do about gaming itself. Hell-bent on throwing their own personal choices in the faces of those who don't agree with them. Who cares if you like the Xbox or the PlayStation brands. You chose your system for one reason or another and both systems are going to have great games. Yet all gamers can do is turn everything into a pissing contest. Trying to win some sort of imaginary race they build up in her head. A race they are neither in control of or a part of. Because the ultimate winner isn't you or I, it is the corporations. Those same corporations who would choose money over you without a second thought. Who would totally destroy gaming, if it meant a higher bottom line.

All of us gamers need to start fighting the fight for gaming itself and not our own personal preferences. Because one day, it's going to bite us all in the ass and we will only have ourselves to blame. Which I'm sure a lot of us would only point the finger at somebody else, making it their issue. Because nobody seems to want to take responsibility for their own actions anymore. Always making it somebody else's fault, to keep their imaginary level of perfection intact.

It is the games, not the systems, that drive our original intention... to have FUN.
TheFutureIsBlue  +   179d ago
Winter is coming! Get behind the wall(of text)!

http://www.liveforfilms.com...

Seriously though, good read =p.
LoTuZ  +   178d ago
Lmfao u must have off today.
jessupj  +   178d ago
I absolutely care about gaming.

And that it why I want Sony to sell a lot more consoles, because they actually push the industry forward will trying to find a profit in the process.

MS just sucks everything dry and extracts every last drop of revenue they can. Just look at the draconian DRM they tried to implement purely for the sake of more profit. They knew dam well what a horrendous thing they were doing to the industry, but still tried. It is no understatement to say MS is a cancer on the industry.

So when I say I'm concerned about sales numbers it's not because I'm a fanboy, it's because I'm a gamer that loves this vibrant industry and want to see it thrive instead of choke to death after becoming an empty shell.

What's even more sad are the MS apologists that defend this company and give that lazy, unintelligent argument that I'm a fanboy because I think MS is very bad for gaming.
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djplonker  +   178d ago
I agree look at gold membership and all the free adverts you get with it they are very very greedy...... hell they were even going to make a profit per xbone sold.
KNWS  +   179d ago
I think once the x box is out gamers will see the benefits of having an online system thats uses dedicated servers to host games. Sony has the advantage at launch though, but i think that advantage will slowly diminish over time.
neocores  +   179d ago
How is xbox one even close add the numbers lol other then that stop telling yourself lies already xboners
vallentiin  +   179d ago
these numbers does not represent console sales.. some people might have preordered more than 1 game. and some might not have pre ordered any.

1.100.000 games on xbox one
1.500.000 games on ps4
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solidworm  +   179d ago
So to conclude the hardcore are guaranteeing Sony a WW lead and the mainstream/casual crowd will extend that come general release.
pyramidshead  +   179d ago
Well if PS4s are all sold out, what else are you gonna buy I suppose lol.
gdguide  +   179d ago
I don't think many are expecting Sony to win in the US outright. But Sony breaking even in the US and UK basically means they would easily have the most worldwide sales. If the X1 doesn't sell as much as the PS4 in the US? Then they are toast worldwide.
Stevino123  +   178d ago
It feels like current gen but the favor is switched. Haha.
Stevino123  +   178d ago
I'll be honest. I play CoD, but I also play other games, like Infamous, Need for Speed, GTA, Battlefield, amd Saints Row, am i considered a gamer? Because, people say if you play cod then you are not a gamer. So, jw.
svoulis  +   178d ago
I think you are misunderstanding when they say

"If you play cod you aren't a gamer"

I think its more

"IF ALL YOU PLAY IS COD, you aren't a gamer"

and I know people who do this, and I do not consider them "GAMERS" I consider them COD players.
miklo84  +   178d ago
PS4 or XBone, hmm, really don't care who outsells who. I'll be picking both up as day one releases (hold applause).
JuniorCE  +   178d ago
I am quite surprised with these number on Xbone:
5. Forza Motorsport 5 - 90,573
2. Battlefield 4 - 153,221
WTF....

I am not surprised at all that the PS4 is getting more pre-orders, it makes sense...

I must say, I am very happy that Killzone: Shadow Fall - 250,155... I played this game!! And it's so much fun!!!
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joeyisback  +   178d ago
The PS4 been sold out of pre orders for over a month or 2 so of course the xbone could get caught up almost oh well xbots dont cry when PS4 owns the xbone this gen
alb1899  +   178d ago
How can that be if SONY sold 125,000?
LeCreuset  +   178d ago
"The data is up to the week ending October 19, 2013. The last time the data was collected was the week ending August 24, 2013."
alb1899  +   178d ago
Then is the same for both
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