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GDEX REPORT: Pokemon Battles for Position While the Wii U Surpasses Sony's PS4

Another week, another opportunity to evaluate the state of social hype as we pick apart the GDEX to see which movers and shakers are making the most noise. The Pokemon crowd is collectively keeping their favorite franchise towards the top of the pack while GTA V's biggest competition is finally starting to fade. So, get your thumbs ready for some social reaction as we share this week's numerical notes courtesy of the GDEX. (3DS, Pokemon, PS4, Wii U, Xbox One)

Kingthrash360  +   841d ago
lol gtfo. wiiu had a year by itself while ps4/x1 hasnt even going by the bs fanboy war? lol ok guy ill sit and watch ps4 followed by x1 surpass wiiu sales in a couple months...if not by christmas. lol funny article.
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awesomeabe1998  +   841d ago
Woah fanboy much? You want to hear my predictions on short term (by end of 2013)

PS4: 2 Million units
XB1: Around 1.5 Million Units
Wii U: 6 to 10 Million Units

Wii U has more 1080p 60 FPS games. It has more must have games coming out. It is only $300 for the console and a game.

PS4 and XB1 have better graphics and awesome shooters. Great Apps, too. PS4 is $400 and XB1 is $500 console only. It stops there.

Wii U is more affordable, has a hardcore game library along with family friendly games. It also has great multiplayer games. Nintendo is the best gaming company. Microsoft has an all out entertainment system and Sony has a good gaming and social system.
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   841d ago
You're smoking some seriously good stuff my friend.

awesomeabe1998  +   841d ago

Is that in a good way?

If you disagree that is your opinion which i respect.

Will you please bubble me up to continue this convo with you guys?
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LOL_WUT  +   841d ago
Didn't Nintendo at one point had to cut their hardware sales forecast? ;)

I'd love to see them reach those 10 million units but the way things have been going for them proves it's nothing but wishful thinking. The nice little boost they got recently proves this, while the percentage number went up the exact number of consoles sold wasn't all that impressive.

You're kidding yourself if you think the PS4 or the X1 are only going to do 2 million by the end of 2013. ;)
awesomeabe1998  +   841d ago

I have seen your comments before so im not surprised. The coming generation wont be like the present generation. PS4 is 3 million max.
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Eonjay  +   841d ago
Are you predicting that the Wii U will double or triple its lifetime sales in the next two months? You are expecting the Wii U to sell more than the PS4 and Xbox One, combined? I question your logic.
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Half-Mafia  +   841d ago
@awesomeabe1998 NEVER invest in any company, you will lose alot of money.
zeal0us  +   841d ago
LMAO this is the second time I heard a statement like this.

First time:
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KwietStorm  +   841d ago
10 million? Oh man..
tetsuhana  +   841d ago
Dude PS4 is probably past 1.5 million in preorders alone. C'mon son.
ZHZ90  +   841d ago
PS4 and X1 aren't even out yet, the only slight advantege for Wii U is just came out a year ago.

Can't wait to see what will happen to Wii U after release of PS4 and X1.

Oh btw PS4 has already surpassed 1 million preorders and it has alot of demands andn it's the most talked console compared to other two.
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AbortMission  +   841d ago
Please. Stop. For you and the Wii u fanboy's sake.

How many times have you drones opened your mouths only to be hilariously owned months later?

"Wii u will have the definitive version of all your favorite games!"

"PS4 will not be much stronger than the PS3 and appeal to casuals!"

"Pikmin 3/W101 will be a system seller!"

You're setting yourself for a slap to the face, really. (Not that you don't need it)
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christrules0041  +   841d ago
The Wii U isn't going to sell 6 to 10 million by the end of the year. Nintendo had Wii Sports and it was a system seller. Everyone wanted to try out Wii Sports and you needed a Wii. The Wii U doesn't have a system seller. For the Xbox One people are looking forward to Dead Rising 3, Ryse : Son of Rome or Titanfall. For the PS4 they are looking forward to Killzone shadowfall, The Order : 1886. That compared to Luigi or Donkey Kong? Xbox One and PS4 will sell a crap load more then the Wii U.

With me I would buy all 3 but I don't got the time for it. The Wii U is on the low end of the toadem pole.
thejigisup  +   841d ago
The wii u pales in comparison to the ps4 and xb1 the casuals are gonna be blinded by visuals, the "hard-core" gamers are in a loyalty battle and are probably already locked in, and the media buffs are going to be astounded by the new capabilities and potential for 4k. Ninty is really gonna have to do something to stand out more.... although imma probably buy a wii u just for smash bros. Your numbers are crazy. Systems are selling out like never before, the greater gaming community is more aware of these systems and we are spending more money than ever on technology. The first thing you say is fanboy much? and then you say things like best gaming company and it has more must have games? That... that right there... no just no.
stuna1  +   841d ago
Ha ha ha, here I was thinking that the Nintendo fanboy was a dying breed, and here you come to resurrect that myth!

Your fanboy goggles have to be about as thick as old coke bottle bottoms.

Here my prediction! The WII U will more than likely sell less than all the next gen consoles, it definitely won't sell 10 million, and that my friend you can take to the bank.
awesomeabe_1998  +   841d ago
Its just my prediction, but I will adjust it due to the statements that you guys offered.

PS4: 4 million
XB1: 3.5 million
Wii U: Around 6-8 million


Oh and im not a fanboy. I have a PS3, Sony Vaio and Sony TV, but the PS4 does not interest me in any way.Its the same as PS3 just better graphics.

My opinion.
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fsfsxii  +   841d ago
I never laughed so hard in my life.
Lopez_josue would be proud of you.
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awesomeabe_1998  +   841d ago
I love that so many people disagree. You guys do know that the PS4 wont come to Japan until 2014? You do know that Wii U has more 1080p 60fps games than the other two? You do know Wii U costs less? You do know Nintendo consoles have a more diversity of games? You guys act like its Wii vs PS360.
ShinMaster  +   841d ago
"""It has more must have games coming out""

You mean like Nintendo's legendary IP, Zelda?
The last game, Skyward Sword, on the Wii, a system with a 90+ million install base couldn't even outsell any of the three Uncharted games, or GOWIII or GT5 or LBP and other third party games on the PS3 with a lower 70+ million units as well as 360 games.

""Wii U: 6 to 10 Million Units""

LOL you're saying the Wii U will triple its lifetime sales in 2 months during the launch of both the PS4 and XBO?

You think Wii U having 1080p@60fps games means visual fidelity parity? Wii U didn't have meany 1080p games at launch. Not even Nintendo's own Mario game was 1080p.

""Wii U is more affordable, has a hardcore game library""
After over 1 year, I'd hope so. However, it's not there yet.

You sir, need to quit drugs.
awesomeabe_1998  +   841d ago

I dont think you understood what I typed. There will be 6 to 10 million Wii U 's by 2014 meaning Nintendo will sell 2 to 6 million Wii U's this holiday.

Well you fanboys said that PS4 and XB1 can handle 1080p and 60fps easily while Wii U had to be tweaked. Im saying this to prove you people wrong.

I dont see many games on PS4 that are must have imo. Ive played Killzone before and I didnt like it. Never played Uncharted. We have Bayonetta instead of GOW. I loved GT....... on the PS2. We have Project Cars.

No Hardcore Games? Hardcore games arent just shooters. I doubt you can master a Mario game. If you can I will be proven wrong. Mario is easy to play, hard to master. Same goes for Pokemon Zelda DK SSB and MK8.

Wii U has little third party support, but all the suppot it needs is FPS games like CoD and Action games.

Bubble me up to continue the convo.
kwandar  +   841d ago
I think you will see a sales drop-off for PS4 and Xbox1 in January, as systems are returned by those trying to make a fast buck from Xmas consumers.

As for asusomaeabe1998's predictions, they actually are likely to be close (at the bottom end for the Wii U), as Wii U is starting with a base of 4MM - and with Wii Fit U coming out, lower price, more software, Nintendo are going to take their fair share of holiday sales.
Hicken  +   841d ago
Short version:

Your prediction is crap.
Brazz  +   841d ago
WiiU 10 million!? no way in hell, 6 milion is ok, maybe 7 milion, but that is it.

Ps4 already have like 1.5 milion pre-orders, so... are you say that they will make holiday season with only 500,000 units? do not play boy, they will hit at least 3-4 million. now the X1, I do not know, depending on the production of microsoft, 2-3 million ...
long term (2014 and early 2015)> Wii U will get 10 milion, in the end of 2014, and ps4 will surpass at the end of 2014. X1 will have very close numbers, but will have to wait util late 2015 to surpass WIIU.
EliteGameKnight  +   841d ago
Interesting thing about looking into the future, It typically is always drowned in personal preference and desire. I believe that it is far to early to make a sales call.

Though the PS4 and XBox One have quite an impressive number of preorders, there is no telling if the demand may drop off a cliff due to lack of console units similar to what befell the Wii U 3 months after its initially launch, or if it will stay stable. The consumer base is a very fickle thing after all.

There is also the possibility that the Wii U will turn around this holiday season, "Pulling a 3DS" if you will, with the games releasing in the coming months. I have no idea if it will, it may very well not, but the chance is still there.

If the PS4 and Xbox One do fall into a drought similar to what the Wii U went through, because lets be honest most console launches don't go according to plan, and the Wii U did pick back up, then awesomeabe1998's prediction may be possible. It is very very unlikely but just like anything, it is possible.
VINNIEPAZ  +   841d ago

"Will you please bubble me up to continue this convo with you guys?"

LMMFAO You MUST be new to this site, there is NO "convo" on N4G if your opinion isn't 100 percent pro Sony. Please don't even try, it wont work, believe me.
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zero_gamer  +   841d ago
Wii U is awesome and has a lot of potential, but Nintendo = best gaming company is entirely opinion. Nintendo makes just as many business mistakes as Sony if not more.
Ezz2013  +   841d ago
where are you getting those numbers from ?!
d3nworth1  +   841d ago
The Wii U has mostly current gen games 1080p 60fps. Games that are no where near as complex as games on the PS4 and XB1. Games that have less geometry, particle effect, characters on screen and lighting effects. The games that the PS4 and XB1 run at 1080p 60fps wouldn't run on a Wii U period. Your sale prediction didn't include how long the consoles were out. Let me help you with that.

PS4: 2 Million units in 2 months
XB1: 1.5 Million units in 2 months
Wii U: 6 to 10 Million in a 12 months

Do the math both the PS4 and Xb1 would have outsold the Wii U in the same time frame.
Ezz2013  +   841d ago
""The real battle will be between xbox one and ps4
with xbox one selling more units overtime because of tv intergration in the end. ""

where did you get that xbox1 is selling more than ps4 ?!
ps4 so far have been beating the hell out of xbox in both hardware/software preorders
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madjedi  +   841d ago
@abe "Wii U is more affordable(ps3/360 is cheaper still), has a hardcore game library along with family friendly games(again see ps3/360). It also has great multiplayer games.(ps3/360 haven't disappeared yet).

You have the gall to call another person a fanboy after that blowjob post wow.

The only thing worse than a fanboy is a two faced hypocritical one that pretends to be a neutral gamer.

1080p and 60 fps means jackshit without taking into account how taxing the game is or how highly detailed the world/characters are.

My fat ps3 played my ps2 games in 1080p, still didn't stop the games from looking like shit on my 1080p tv.

So who is going to buy a wii u over a ps4 or a xbone, the casual buyer they will snatch up ps3/360's for 8 yrs worth of mp and exclusives game.

The non-nintendo hardcore console gamer will be likely be buying a ps4 or xbone, this holiday, the ps3/360 are old and obsolete. For non-nintendo gamers the wii u belongs in the ps3/360 gen and not the ps4/xbone gen.

"Nintendo is the best gaming company." For die-hard nintendo fans i agree for everyone else lmao. But your not a fanboy, right.
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Dunban67  +   840d ago
so you think the wii u will sell between 1 million to 2 million units per month starting now in October thru this December

how many have been sold this far in October? Prob not much more than 100,000
thomasmiller  +   840d ago
great comment , notice how the blind and stupid trolls don't even realize what you are saying is going to be true, but what ever helps the losers sleep at night!! they are going to be in for a big shock on how little the ps4 and x box one sell, they have no big games for this holiday, and Nintendo has Mario 3d!!! the morons just never learn!
Amsterdamsters  +   840d ago
To all of you who are bragging about the number of PS4 pre-orders there are, I don't think they are as high as you think. Also, I only know a couple people with one on pre-order, and they are planning on selling theirs to try and make a few bucks off them. I'm sure a large percent of the pre-ordered systems will end up on eBay and Craig's List.
brewin  +   840d ago
I think more people will agree with your statement if Nintendo wpuld just blow everyone away with a crazy next gen looking Zelda Wii U reveal.
elmaton98  +   840d ago
Well I'll be buying a wiiu at one point or another for mario alone since I grew up with it but in all honesty, the wiiu isn't looking too hot right now specially when the ps4 and xbone are coming out in less than a month.
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weekev15  +   841d ago
The article isnt saying WiiiU will outsell the other 2. They analyse social media and give points to each system/game based on mentions. So it could be "better pack up my wiiu so I can use it to pay off my ps4" and both will get a point. I have to say its still surprising that more people are talkin bout wiiu though.
Why do you think the PS4 and Xbox One will outsell the Wii U
There is no way that the Xbox One is going to outsell the Wii U
And The PS4 and Wii U have a 50% chance that they are going to outsell each other
Fanboyssuck27  +   841d ago
butt hurt ps fanboys, you gotta laugh at them. loooool
When ps doesn't sell as much as they assume that it will I will be lmao as it means soooo much to them. lol smh
PositiveEmotions  +   841d ago
PS4 sold over a million units and Xbox one 7,000 units and there not even out yet now just imagine how many PS4s and Xbox Ones will be sold at retailers.

Also PS4 and Xbox One broke the sales record and again the next gen consples arent arent even out yet.

So this article is a little silly to me imo.
Amsterdamsters  +   840d ago
"PS4 sold over a million units and Xbox One 7,000"...pull numbers out of the air much? No one is going to take anything you say seriously with a quote like that.
PositiveEmotions  +   840d ago
Is the truth tho look it up.
elmaton98  +   840d ago
Well judging by pre-orders yes you're right but still, I can't wait to hold my ps4 on my hand.
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majiebeast  +   841d ago
Gdex is so completely flawed. I dont know why GT uses it.

It works on tweets can you imagine if it worked on Youtube comments then the N word would be the number 1 game.
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Concertoine  +   841d ago
the ps4 and xbox one wont beat the wii u by christmas, but they easily surpass it by the end of 2014
Eonjay  +   841d ago
Nintendo is predicting sales of 9 million by 3/31/2014. Sony is predicting 5 million by 3/31/2014. Microsoft is keeping its mouth shut.

Current Standings:
Wii U: 3.8 million
PS4: 0 (duh with 1 million+ preorders)
Xbox One: 0 (duh with at predicted preorders at 600-700k)
Concertoine  +   841d ago
yeah i know, even their 3ds sales are over optimistic and thats the best selling console out right now. they were hoping for 45 million 3ds's and im not even sure if they have 40 yet. their sales projections are always just ridiculous.
as for 5 million ps4s by FY 2014, i dont know about that either. i would predict a bit less than 4 million, theres just a lot of competition with xbox one and it's having a late arrival in japan too.
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Concertoine  +   841d ago
do you people honestly think they'll sell 5 million consoles in 4 months, with it not coming out til feb. 14th in japan?! historically last gen outsells current gen for quite some time, so the 360 and ps3 would be selling more. this would beat wii records, a system that had a strangle hold on the 2007-2008 sales partly because it was half the price of the competition. ps4 will sell the most but the xbox fanbase is still big enough to compete. as for the wii u, still a big question mark, to me at least.
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AbortMission  +   841d ago
It's Nintendo fanboys. You honestly expect to reason with them? Lol
Concertoine  +   840d ago
im referring to the ps4 outselling the wii u (around 4 million units) by christmas which is ridiculous. 5 million by march is at least possible but even sony arent predicting to outsell the wii u by christmas.
but yeah nintendo fanboys are still a pain in the ass, as are all fanboys lol....
strigoi814  +   841d ago
lolz GDeX is a complete joke! only lame people pay attention to that crap
AceBlazer13  +   841d ago
i was puzzled as hell when i saw the title . i was wondering if the ps4 had some surprise launch or something. kinda pathetic that the wii u was behind in the first place
WeAreLegion  +   841d ago
Have a Wii U. Pre-ordered a PS4. Can confirm that nobody would rather have a Wii U. -_-
KwietStorm  +   841d ago
Brucis  +   841d ago
Considering all the PS4 games I'm interested in don't come out until later and there are Wii U games out now that I want, I'd actually take the price-dropped Wii U over a brand new PS4.
WeAreLegion  +   841d ago
If you insist...

I recommend LEGO City: Undercover, Zombi U, and New Super Luigi Bros. U.

I was SO disappointed in Game & Wario. All they had to do was make a new Wario Ware and they screwed it up. :/
Ol_G  +   841d ago
you can only confirm for yourself don't talk for 4 mil+ people who do love their consoles
Amsterdamsters  +   840d ago
Do you speak for everyone now? I have a 3DS XL, PS3, Vita, Wii U and Xbox 360. I'm not buying either a PS4 or Xbox One anytime soon and really enjoy my Wii U, so, no you cannot confirm that nobody would rather have a PS4 than a Wii U.
WeAreLegion  +   840d ago
I can, in fact, confirm it. Because it was a joke. -_-
iceman600  +   841d ago
"nah sorry bro.. Wii u is last gen to me

The real battle will be between xbox one and ps4"

actually its current gen dummy, and so will the ps4 and xbox 1 with their outdated hardware when they are released...get it right.
Lalanana  +   841d ago
lol. fail
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Rask  +   841d ago
What a load of crap.
Avernus  +   841d ago
But... Wii U is out a year now while PS4 / XB1 hasn't even been released. Like saying PS3 / 360 surpasses Wii U...

GDeX is a joke anyway. Nothing against the Wii U, but c'mon.
r21  +   841d ago
This is the first I've heard of GDEX. Also wth at the SSB ranking BELOW Peggle2? Is this a joke article or what?
just-joe  +   841d ago
These aren't sales people, calm down.
ironmonkey  +   841d ago
those wii u games at 1080p 60hz arent even big games. i would compare them to games like wipeout hd thats 1080p 60hz as well and games like that dont need much attention. not hating on nintendo but just because its 1080p doesnt make it a must have.
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Patr33k  +   841d ago
To be honest... I own a wii u and it is dead like the vita to me... I packed up my wii u to save it rrom collecting dust i honestly just bought it for mh3u. Also pre-ordered a ps4 very excited about that and meh in my opinion ps4> wii u in sales very soon. Nintendo really effed up this time around but it'll do fine its not gonna die like the vita, comon guys; lets be real who doesnt want the ps4 or wii u? Should get both but the ps4 will eventually prevail since it'll feel like next gen to most people :x .
Ol_G  +   841d ago
that most people group is actually really small most consoles are sold to kids and casuals and i don't believe they care about the more realistic water in ac4 or some free to play games like killer instinct
but these same people show interest in mario titlles so we'll see what will be considered next gen to the masses
Misaka_x_Touma  +   841d ago
reading all these posts is hilarious!

not but people fighting over piece of plastic.
nevin1  +   841d ago
those piece of plastics generate $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
TwilightSparkle  +   841d ago
Thats exactly what I was going to type arguing over inanimate objects that will be useless in a few years just all other gadgets,
DivineAssault  +   841d ago
wii u did so poorly in sales that they had to drop the price by $50 in LESS THAN a yrs time.. Its going to be 1yr old already too.. Sales comparisons cant be done if the other consoles arent even out yet! 1 thing is for sure tho, PS4 pre orders #s CRUSHED wii u's.. Im sure sales will reflect that as well in less than a months time
Ol_G  +   841d ago
do you have the numbers to say it crushed it cause last time i looked wii u preorders were more than ps360 combined and very impressive wii u sold 3 mil in less than 2 months so where did ps4 crush it with 1.5 mil preorders
fghtrer3fb5erg  +   841d ago
He´s talking about "pre orders" aka launch day sales and not 2 months after the consoles come out, wiiU only sold about 600 thousand on launch day, ps4 will sell over 1 million on launch day, id say 3 times more than the wiiU sales on launch day, since when is there a console launch day every month? -_- New consoles come out once in their lifetime and the first comparision of sales are the launch day sales, 2 months after dont count as launch day sales.
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Misaka_x_Touma  +   840d ago

Wii U sold 1.8m first week in US
sold 3.06m worldwide from Nov 18-Dec 31, 2012.

That was only one month.
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mohuzas  +   840d ago
let me remind you that Sony dropped the PS3's price by 200$ in a shorter time frame.
LOL_WUT  +   840d ago
But let me remind YOU that while still higher in price the PS3 was doing a lot better than what the Wii U is currently doing. ;)
Why do people think that the Wii U is going to die when the PS4 and Xbox One comes out? I'm pretty sure the Wii U will be fine. Yes,
Okay first off, there is a 50% chance that the Wii U outsell the PS4 and there is a 50% chance that the PS4 is going to outsell the Wii U
I'm sure there is no way the Xbox One can outsell the Wii U
Sm00thNinja  +   840d ago
Its inevitable both will pass the Wii U in sales. And who knows if they can grab that niche market like the first Wii. The Xbox One and the PS4 sales predictions cannot be guessed.
mitchell1188  +   840d ago
I don't know about Wii U but I can say for a fact that at least one ps4 will be sold and I'll be playing it November 15. I'm a huge Zelda fan (I have a triforce tattoo if that says anything) and I huge pokemon fan (midnight release of x and y FTW) BUT Nintendo hasn't given me personally a reason to buy the Wii U. I'm a fan of Nintendo and a fan of Sony (used to be a fan of Xbox) but Nintendo has begun to fall off a bit. I want both Sony and Nintendo to be around when I have kids so hopefully all goes well till then.
mohuzas  +   840d ago
Nintendo were around back when my great great grandfather was alive and kicking.
TheObserver  +   840d ago
Awesomeabe is born in 1998. . . He's 15 years old. No wonder he's a Nintenyearolds fan. Haha.
arbitor365  +   840d ago
this score is based on how many times a word is found when browsing social media. it has nothing to do with sales or success. what a pointless and laughable article.

the PS4 will surpass wii u sales by the end of the year
McScroggz  +   840d ago
The idea of GDEX is interesting and all, but it doesn't actually represent anything meaningful.
Sm00thNinja  +   840d ago
Lets be honest. Next Gen starts on November 15th. I love my Wii U. Itll be here for Smash Bros, Mario Kart and Zelda whenever those titles decide to show up, but thats the issue. Nintendo's heavy hitters are showing up so late to the party it pretty much negates Nintendo's big head start.

Xbox One and PS4 games look so much above whats possible on current gen the Wii U looks ancient. Ryse and Shadowfall are LAUNCH GAMES. Remember what Resistance Fall of Man and Perfect Dark ZERO looked like as launch titles? Compare those to The Last of Us. Lets not discuss the Wii U's gamepad trump card being a non-factor as few games utilize it whatsoever.

Not saying NINTY is done for, there will always be a niche for them in my heart, but the next generation surely starts November 15th 2013.
Jay70sgamer  +   840d ago
I wouldn't say they wasted the whole year they have sold almost 4 million units plus without a Zelda ,Mario or donkey kong A title . I Would say also it is impressive to have games in its first year of doing hd games running at 1080 /60fps already so early in the systems life where as Sony and Microsoft has been in hd for 8 years and haven't run as many game at that frame rate than nintendo ....also you have to remember even if nintendo doesn't sell well this winter they still have smash,mario kart,Zelda u ,donkey kong ,X etc coming out next year ...if Sony or Microsoft start out slow they have to rely on there3rd party to help them get out of a bind where as nintendo can go into there first party archives and bring out a new game ....yoshi,metroid,luigi, Mario,Zelda,donkey kong,Pokemon etc and can move millions instantly .....nintendo can sell over 30 million units just on there library alone ..that's a fact
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