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60fps vs 30fps vs 20fps Comparison Using F1 2013

PC Games Hardware "From how many frames per second, smooth game starts? To this question are the ghosts - and has been without the current discussion about faster lap times with higher fps in F1 2013. We compare the smoothness of the basis of this game at 60, 30 and even 20 fps in split-screen video. How do you see the differences in the video?"

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Lalanana1012d ago

60fps looks much clearer for sure.

GameNameFame1012d ago

With weaker spec, you are likely to hit lower rez and lower frame rate.

Also, you could have lower graphics in general due to lower spec.

mattdillahunty1011d ago (Edited 1011d ago )

the 60fps clip is so far beyond the 30 and 20fps ones. i've never understood why people say 60fps isn't a big deal, or that you shouldn't hold it against devs if they can't achieve it in every game next gen. like hell you shouldn't. not only does it make the game that much better, but it directly affects gameplay (which is what really matters).

i'm fine with not all games being 1080p out of the game, the hardware isn't that powerful compared to high end tech, but i'm not ok with games not being 60fps right out the gate on PS4 and XBox One. go 60 or go home.

sinjonezp1011d ago

What gamers must realize is that, when you play a game on 60fps, and then play a game on 30fps, its almost like going back from HD TVs to standard def. It almost hurt your eyes. If you do not believe me, play ac3 on PC with everything turned on at 60fps and then go play the xbox360 version. You will never want to play at anything but 60fps ever again in life. I think 60fps is that modern threshold. You have to have it; similar to 1080p. Now anything beyond 60fps is irrelevant. I have run benchmarks on games at 120fps-240fps and it just makes the game run really fast as apposed to smooth. 60fps is the sweet spot and I think all publishers should achieve that with future releases. Granted not everyone plays games on 60inch TVs where 1080p is very noticeable so 720p, 900p, etc is fine but having that 60fps is the most important to have a smooth experience.

P0werVR1012d ago

This is the ONLY reason most PC enthusiast build PC for. High frame rates, simply because this is what defines how powerful your PC is.

kB01012d ago

yes but it's also because of the eye candy and the advantages of being able to run the game the way the dev intended.

Tundra1012d ago

A higher frame rate also can contribute to a lower input latency from your keyboard/mouse or controller.

Irishguy951012d ago

Its not really, achieving the /best graphics while not sacrificing the FPS/ is the reason. As you can see, almost every Ps4 and X1 game cannot achieve their graphics without sacrificing the framerate.

Also PC's have MANY more uses than gaming. PC GAMING enthusiasts would be the one you're looking for, where they build a powerful PC only for gaming. Powerful PC's can do so much more than gaming alone.

Gamer19821012d ago (Edited 1012d ago )

I agree somewhat even with that video I cannot tell the difference between 60fps and 30fps. The thing about staying well above 30fps is I know it's not gonna drop below 30fps though. Soon as you drop below it that's when slow down begins. That's what you want to avoid.

BTW I'm a PC gamer and have a nex gen beating PC.

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Haules1012d ago (Edited 1012d ago )

60fps is smoother!

Its great to see PS4 exclusives at 1080p 60fps.

Irishguy951012d ago (Edited 1012d ago )

Remind me which exclusives again?

edit- Not really kBO seeing as there is only one AAA game there that is actually pushing graphics along with being the full 1080p and 60fps. And even then it's only Multi(however the multi looks amazing anyway so it oounts). Driveclub isn't. Warframe is a small indie game.

The list is basically

Killzone MP
Small indie games that would be disgraceful not to achieve those settings and FPS(may as well praise the Ps4 because it can run cod 4 at 1080p and 60FPS)
And Old PC/Ps3 games

Hey don't fret, the X1 only has Forza doing it too

ABeastNamedTariq1012d ago (Edited 1012d ago )

@Irish

Off the top of my head:

Killzone's MP
Resogun
Deep Down (I think)
FFXIV
DCUO (I think)
Warframe (I think)
All smaller indie games at launch
(Potentially) DriveClub

EDIT:

Oh, and I'm pretty sure Injustice will be. Since you asked.

kB01012d ago (Edited 1012d ago )

@IrishGuy95

Sucks to ask a sarcastic rhetorical question and get an answer eh?

Maybe you should have researched first and typed second:)

Haules1012d ago (Edited 1012d ago )

@Irishguy95

KZ SF ---1080p 60fps (MP)
Knack ---1080p 60fps
Infamous ---1080p 60fps
WarFrame ---1080p 60fps
WarThunder ---1080p 60fps
Planetside 2 --- 1080p 60fps
Resogun ----1080p 60fps
Deep Down ---- 1080p 60fps
Blacklight retribution --- 1080p 60fps

Kleptic1011d ago

do you have a link for Planetside 2?...seriously asking, not disagreeing...

reason being...that game is an absolute nightmare on PC for a stable framerate...its unanimously described as the current world champion for absolutely trashing nearly any cpu (nothing to do with gpu)...

the cpu bottlenecking that happens on the PC version is insane...very often even powerful rigs will drop below 25fps in any from of big battle the game is known for...

currently its threaded for only dual cores at most iirc...even on the lowest possible settings i'd be averaging around 10 fps (funny...as it looks literally worse than a playstation 2 game at that point) in bigger battles...and would log my cpu usage to see 1 core at 100%, 1 at 99%, the other two just hovering around 8%...so i uninstalled it...

if they can get that game to run even 30fps on the new consoles, considering their cpu power...i'll be very impressed, and hopefully some of that parallel processing code will filter back to the pc version...

Saviour1011d ago

killzone mp is not locked 60fps means it can dip down os its not true 60fps, knack,driver crlub are 30fps and those u think doesnt matter since u are not developer will know when devs confirm. there's only one true 1080p/60 fps atleast at launch on both console thats forza.

shadow27971011d ago

Could you name a next-gen console game that is locked at 60fps? And please don't say Forza, because then you'd look silly.

Your ideal "true 60fps" is going to disappoint you tremendously.

dontbhatin1011d ago

@savior

Yeah if you really think locked at 60 fps is "true 60 fps" then you are out of your mind. Even Cod on 360 and ps3 werent locked at 60 fps. So that muct mean its not true 60 fps.

And are you really gonna brag about the fps on a game that hasnt even been released or analyzed yet?? Get over yourself man. LOL kids these days...

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webeblazing1012d ago

what 60fps don't matter unless sony do it. Next don't wanna hear it talk to the hand

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Neonridr1012d ago (Edited 1012d ago )

No doubt in game like this 60fps is paramount.

Some games can get away with 30fps and still be playable. However I would rather have a slightly lower resolution and 60FPS.

cyguration1012d ago

I think Uncharted and Last of Us can get away with 30fps because it's close to the 24fps that movies use, and in those particular cases they feel a little like movies.

I think for everything that isn't trying to emulate the look or feel of a movie, 60fps is a must.

deadfrag1012d ago (Edited 1012d ago )

Framerate in games has nothing to do with framerate in movies its a completly diferent scenario!Get the 24fps smooth movie play out of your mind when talking about games because one thing has nothing to do with the other!Games are made of writing code and writing files to assets....it has nothing to do with how movies shot frames!

ABizzel11012d ago

Fighting & Racing games are 60fps must IMO (some shooters as well).

Everything else is fine at 30 - 45fps.

kB01012d ago

RTS games, and RPG games (tactical) can usually get away with 30 fps, so can games like Walking dead but even then I prefer all in 60 fps with min of 40 fps (40 is when it starts getting very fluid)

STK0261012d ago

@kB0

I agree for RPGs, but RTS must be at 60 fps. Try playing either League of Legends, DOTA2 or StarCraft 2 at 30 fps, then play it again at 60 fps, and, to me at least, it makes a really big difference. I don't mind playing the campaign modes in most RTS games at 30 fps, but competitive multiplayer at anything lower than 60 fps is a disadvantage.

MidnytRain1012d ago

deadfrag

I get where you're coming from, but the truth is that ND aims for that film feel, which you don't get with crazy high frame rates, least not in the cutscenes...

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dontbhatin1012d ago

And people say you cant notice 60fps with your eyes. LOL

deadfrag1012d ago

Its obvious they can,but there are ways of making a 30fps game seem like its running at higher framerates using blur technics......

dontbhatin1012d ago

Agreed. but i just cant stand it when motion blur gets overused. makes the game look like crap with everything smearing across the screen.

FlyingFoxy1012d ago

Sonic Adventure on DC is like one of the only games i'm surprised that runs at 30fps, i can usually spot the difference straight away because 60fps is really fluid.

Volkama1012d ago

Never been a fan of motion blur. If something is moving fast then my eyes can take care of the blur thank you very much.

NaAsAr1012d ago

the video says it all. frame rate is king!!!!

2pacalypsenow1012d ago

I don't care as long as im entertained

duplissi1012d ago

Higher fps usually will do just that. Smoother gameplay, and reduced input lag do wonders for your enjoyment of games.

2pacalypsenow1012d ago

have many version of games on PC /ps3 and xbox 360 enjoy them all equally

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