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Submitted by Abriael 550d ago | news

Tetsuya Nomura Thinks the PS4 is "Too Much"; 8 GB RAM Will Help Considerably with Kingdom Hearts III

Sony Computer Entertainment published a new interview of Tetsuya Nomura about Kingdom Hearts III, as part of the “Conversations with Creators” series. He has some fairly interesting things to say about the PS4. (Kingdom Hearts 3, PS4, Tetsuya Nomura)

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Wizziokid  +   550d ago | Well said
Too much is better than too little
richierich  +   550d ago
Totally
georgeenoob   550d ago | Trolling | show
cannon8800  +   550d ago | Well said
@georgeenoob

256 mb of ram and 256 mb of xdr ram.

They used every last bit.

oh and that's a last gen console by the way, so what makes you think that sony first party studios wont use all the ram when their games become more complex and have to utilize more ram?
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Septic  +   550d ago
@george

It's called future-proofing.
minimur12  +   550d ago
Did you see the fire spells in the D23 video 0.o
Bathyj  +   550d ago
256? Were you only using half your PS3?
nypifisel  +   550d ago | Well said
@gerogeenoob

You don't realise how restricted developers been due to the lack of RAM do you? Xbox One have enough memory though it's not fast enough. Evidently even with the eSRAM it will be hard to push 1080p on Xbox One
Eonjay  +   550d ago
@George... the point is that they could have done more with more resources.

@nypifisel to be fair, even some early titles are gonna have a hard time getting to 1080p. It should still be noted that the Xbox One has an upscaler. I think it will be a while before the Xbox's resources are completely saturated like presently on 360 and PS3
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DragonKnight  +   550d ago
@georgeenoob: Oh hi there, you've been gone awhile haven't you? Firstly, there really isn't a such thing as too much memory. Devs didn't WANT 512mb of memmory, they HAD 512mb memory. They'd have definitely loved more. Secondly, no one cares about or brought up Xbox One so kindly take it elsewhere.
SoulSercher620  +   550d ago
@georgeenoob

Wow that comment proves you have no idea how RAM works or what it is for that matter
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isa_scout  +   550d ago
^^^ I read your comment in the Bill and Ted voice...lol
nypifisel  +   550d ago
@Eonjay

Upscaling isn't doing IQ that many favours though, it got nothing on native. Xbox One will hang around for a while but I still think MS did a fatal mistake not investing in more powerful hardware, the PS4 will pull ahead (hell we already see it with all PS4 titles so far being announced as 1080p while Xbox One is suffering from 720p and 900p in their exclusives, only 1080p except Forza on the XB1 as far as I know is Cod Ghost!)
Mr_cheese  +   550d ago
Oi, one bubble. Be quiet.
Ezz2013  +   550d ago
GirlOnFire  +   549d ago
Totes! Quiet georgenoob...please. 86 and counting disagrees. ^~^
iceman06  +   549d ago
LOL @ the commercial reference!
pete007  +   549d ago
256mb gddr3 + 256mb xdr Rambus @3.2 ghz
Freedomland  +   549d ago
C'mon guys give georgeenoob a breathing space.
RumbleFish  +   549d ago
Reading first comment, seeing those two disagrees and realizing: there are two boys with way too small ducks in here. Please excuse my bad spelling.
Anarki  +   549d ago
Only 'cause S-E cannot wont have something to blame when they corner cut now. Their games have been lacking lately.
Ritsujun  +   549d ago
The clown of the day goes to to GGn00b, again.
Withdreday  +   549d ago
Isn't Square the company that suggested both consoles use 8GBs of ram though?

I don't get the "too much" comment (unless it was tongue in cheek)
abzdine  +   550d ago
i couldn't say less :D
Magicite  +   549d ago
Too much of Greatness can never be too much :D
Tsar4ever  +   549d ago
Although he was only joking, He just doesnt need as much memory for the game he's creating on his Kingdom Hearts 3 engine. But I bet All devs don't share that sentiment. 3.5gb is dedicated to the OS/UX and DVR recording. Hopefully like this gen, the memory footprint may expand and more memory would be usable to games as the years go by, maybe from 4.5–5gb to 6.5gb. I BET They're OTHER game engines out there that will probably tax the PS4 memory beyond it's means further down it's lifetime. 8GB may seem like overkill now. BUT Sony made sure the PS4 had longer legs this time. But will 8gb be enough for games creation in around 2018?
Deadpoolio  +   549d ago
Uh If your talking about the PS4 you know that rumor that 3.5gb dedicated to the OS was debunked right....It's 5.5gb for games with a flexible 1gb extra with the rest going to the OS
Jazz4108  +   549d ago
Too little and too much are all opinions. In my opinion I would rather have a perfect balanced console then having a unbalanced console that's great in certain areas but gives up other important areas. I feel neither the xboxone nor the ps4 are a perfectly balancd console but I do believe they will both have there pros and cons and it will be about this time next year that we have games that can significantly use the consoles strengths which is memory, and 8 cores to name a few. Off topic.. I tried to trade my ps3 in at gamestop for new system next month since they have a 30% bonus right now and I know my system is the smaller one at fat 40 gigs but the offer was for 50.00. I kept it as the bluray player is worth more than 50.00. My point is gamestop has been ripping off gamers from day 1.
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Beastforlifenoob  +   549d ago
Then why cant PS4 play battlefield 4 at 1080p?

And no its not ecause devs dont know the hardware its X86 architecture jsut like PC's. X86 means it has pretty much been already optimized.

So yeah why is it not running @1080p, im not trolling im still buying a PS4 but im simply not believing its "too much"
AbortMission  +   549d ago
Call it, the "Wii u syndrome"
TheSaint  +   549d ago
It's all about future proofing it, in 4 - 5 years the games will use most if not all of this RAM.
sephiroth420  +   550d ago
yeah they prefer these god damn tablets now ey?
first1NFANTRY  +   550d ago
Better to have more than less. Even if devs don't use the whole 8gigs it's still better to have the option.
Furesis  +   550d ago
wasn't it something like 4.5 gigs that they can use? i can be wrong i don't know
first1NFANTRY  +   550d ago
you may be right i have no idea at this point. guess we'll find out at launch
itBourne  +   549d ago
I forget, I think it was like 4.5 gigs, and some sort of extra 1 gig for things too.
Dmagic  +   549d ago
it was 6.5 and the other went to os
Brix90  +   549d ago
4.5 was a rumor it's 6.5 believe
hazeblaze  +   549d ago
It's 4.5 GB by default, but there is an extra 2GB free floating that devs can allocate if necessary.
Deadpoolio  +   549d ago
It's 5.5gb for games with an extra 1gb flexible so basically 6.5 for games and the rest goes to the OS
Chard  +   550d ago
I understand that Kingdom Hearts is a much loved franchise, but I really don't wanna hear Nomura talk about anything other than Final Fantasy XV for now. For the love of Jeebus just get that game done!
Magicite  +   549d ago
I must agree on this one and btw I really hope that FF15 will be at least superb game, FF series been in stagnation for too long.
noctis_lumia  +   549d ago
ppl waited more than 10 years for a Kingdom hearts myself included

so i believe it deserve all the attention
we all know a new FF game is coming every 2-4 years so let KH3 shine
Irishguy95  +   549d ago
Hopefully by Jump festa in December
DigitalRaptor  +   549d ago
It has to be out by the end of next year at the very latest, it just has to.

It feels like Square Enix have found their focus again.
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Eamon  +   550d ago
Now guys, just imagine a game that fully uses all 8 Gigs of RAM.

Monster.
scott182  +   549d ago
uncharted 4... :o
AsunaYuukiTheFlash  +   549d ago
Let us wait for Naughty Gods next IP.
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By the end of PS4's lifespan it won't be enough and it will be canceled and put on the PS5 instead.
Abriael   550d ago | Off topic | show | Replies(1)
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MysticStrummer  +   549d ago
By the end of any console's lifespan, whatever tech is inside won't be enough for what certain devs want to accomplish.

I wonder if you'll get another bubble or make a relevant point by the end of the PS4's lifespan...
ApolloTheBoss  +   550d ago
He can't even handle the awesomeness that is PS4. Can you blame him?
Evilsnuggle  +   550d ago
Having too much ram is like having too much money !!!! NUFF " said
MasterCornholio  +   550d ago
Better that they complain about having too much than to little.

@Georgeenoob

Oh knock it off already no matter what you say or do it won't stop the PS4 from being successful.

Nexus 7 2013
pyramidshead  +   550d ago
Let him one bubble whine. The more he comments the faster he gets banned again lol. He brings it on himself.
r21  +   550d ago
Oh man, still cant believe KH3 is FINALLY coming out. Still in awe.
Cryptcuzz  +   549d ago
Yeah me too, it has been a long time I've been waiting for it to be announced.

Did you see the new trailer? It looks so awesome and its still early in development, so it can only get even better.

@For those making a big deal about this, Nomura said it in a joking way, hence, the laughter at the end of his quote. No need to down play the PS4 and Nomura since the other console has 8 GB too!
r21  +   549d ago
Saw it and it looks close to those CG cutscenes from KH2 :)
THC CELL  +   550d ago
Naughty dogs are going to blow us away like. Always
Pain  +   550d ago
Good for you Nomura.. now hurry up and and releases a bloody game already.. last time people talked about this guy *cough* FFXII vs *cough* my friends didn't have kids and where not married.
clouds5  +   550d ago
All I care about is wether they release it to PC. It just seems so stupid that they develop a game on the PC and have it running and then don't release on it. Makes no sense whatsoever. I already missed out on enough KH titles because i didnt have a perticular system.
Furesis  +   550d ago
i don't think they'll do it but that would be cool
xXxSeTTriPxXx  +   549d ago
I thought that console games where developed on dev kits with pc being a catalyst of sortz?...
clouds5  +   549d ago
I have no idea how they actually program a game like that :) But I do know that the Nomura guy was talking about Directx11. And that's obviously a PC thing (and XB1). If it runs on Directx11 it should run on PC...
I mean xb1 and PC, the chips are made by the same manufacturer (AMD) they have the same CPU structure, same kind of ram, and they even use the same API. I'm no expert but that doesnt sound like alot of "porting" to me. It should just run with minor modifications.
Hicken  +   550d ago
Been waiting long enough.
MightyNoX  +   550d ago
Forgive me, people, but I'd like to run an experiment. I once read in an article that though KH games are loved, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who understands the story.

Click Agree if you DO understand the plot of the entire saga or Disagree if you do not.
clouds5  +   550d ago
I love deep stories but I'mnot prepared buying 5 different ssystems just to play all of them...
thejigisup  +   549d ago
That's why i waited to get a collection and now they have 1.5 remix which im playing now and loving. Now they have announced a 2.5 which should really fill the gap and give you the ability to play KH and not have to buy 5 systems.
Ron_Danger  +   550d ago
The plot is simple:

Sora lives on an island with his best friend. He wishes there was more to life and explores the island. Then his boss drives up in a Porsche golf cart and drives him around for a little bit. Then his boss does and Sora and Adrien Zimmed have to pretend he is still alive. Antics ensue...

Oh wait... That's the movie Weekend at Bernie's... Nevermind...
KonsoruMasuta  +   549d ago
It not that hard to understand. I understand the whole thing and I haven't even played all the games.
Hicken  +   549d ago
It's not TOO complicated- though the details are pretty in-depth- but I couldn't explain it to you because it's been years since I've played.
noctis_lumia  +   549d ago
more complicated now that this game is released also on xbox one

anw ps4 day one for me and if there is a spcial edition then thats the way to go
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Infamous298  +   549d ago
true that.
Clarence  +   550d ago
More powerful and cheaper. Can't ask for a better console. Hope there's a limited edition of KH3.
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Ron_Danger  +   550d ago
When I read "too much RAM", I thought "too much rum," and was like "so what's the problem?"
MightyNoX  +   549d ago
You need to hide it from Elizabeth.
Shakengandulf  +   549d ago
You need to hide Elizabeth from me.
akurtz  +   550d ago
Just finish it! You skipped a whole generation, i miss sora :(
metalgod88  +   549d ago
I think that while more memory is a great thing for developers, at the same time I think it's a burden for gamers. A curse if you will. Let me explain.

With the Playstation 3 only have 256 mb of ram to work with at any given time, the developers had optimize the hell out of all of their code and get it running as efficiently as possible. This may have been extremely difficult to do, but it helped shape the best games we've ever seen.

Now with more memory comes games with the possibility of less optimization and less focus on quality. Now, I'm not saying that studios aren't going to try their best to make sure they create the best game possible, but I'm saying that I think we're going to see a flood of terrible games. With all that memory, It's no longer an issue really, so developers won't have to focus so much on optimization as they will getting the game to run properly.

With that said, I can't wait to see what we get next gen.
AceBlazer13  +   549d ago
If any game can make use of the ps4's power it's kingdom hearts, make it happen nomura max it out.

Besides that ram is gonna fix one of my few problems I had with ps3, that browse.The ram is also gonna allow the ps4 to pull off everything the ps3 was limited from, like playing music from the xmb menu in game.
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mediate-this  +   549d ago
Some of the best p.c games utilize only 4-5 gb of ram, so i think thd console devs should be happy with three to four gigs of ram let alone of 8, what a leap from lmast gen to this gen.
ZHZ90  +   549d ago
He also want the PS4 touchpad to work KH3, he really he'll do so as well with FFXV.

No one can deny the power of PS4.
yewles1  +   549d ago
'WHAT' 8GB? You don't HAVE 8GB to work with, just like X1.
noctis_lumia  +   549d ago
ps4 can still use more ram than microsoft
TheGrimReaper0011  +   549d ago
Fine, just get a steady framerate (60 would be sexy smooth)
I cant wait till it comes out
cyguration  +   549d ago
If 8GB is too much then does that mean this game could come to the Wii U?
TechMech2  +   549d ago
Compared to current gen, the Xbox one and ps4 are incredibly powerful. While Xbox one will probably have worse graphics on first party games, both systems will be welcomed by developers as more power is necessary in a new generation
EXVirtual  +   549d ago
Good to hear that the PS4 is running the game well.
stellarock420  +   549d ago
just think that few years from now 8gb of ddr5 will be nothing we will all be running 12-16 ddr5 in our computers. i am running 6 gb ddr5 and 6 ddr3 in my system.and besides kh3 looks like a game you would find in a box of luckey charms or a ps2 or wii game for that matter
LordDhampire  +   549d ago
lol wut? you mean 6 Gddr5? Do you have a titan?

if not you do realize that memory in crossfire/sli does not stack so if you only have two 3 gig cards you don't have 6 gigs of GDDR5 for use
stellarock420  +   549d ago
actually yes in a custom build is possible i can use eather 6 gb or 12 for games works fine
for me
EXVirtual  +   549d ago
Just what you'd expect from PC players.
nope111  +   549d ago
fvggtt6544ewa bji8 877ytCCCDR%
stellarock420  +   549d ago
if your ram is worth more then your graphics card that should put up a flag right there
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