Sony Computer Entertainment published a new interview of Tetsuya Nomura about Kingdom Hearts III, as part of the “Conversations with Creators” series. He has some fairly interesting things to say about the PS4.
Too much is better than too little
@georgeenoob 256 mb of ram and 256 mb of xdr ram. They used every last bit. oh and that's a last gen console by the way, so what makes you think that sony first party studios wont use all the ram when their games become more complex and have to utilize more ram?
@george It's called future-proofing.
Did you see the fire spells in the D23 video 0.o
256? Were you only using half your PS3?
@gerogeenoob You don't realise how restricted developers been due to the lack of RAM do you? Xbox One have enough memory though it's not fast enough. Evidently even with the eSRAM it will be hard to push 1080p on Xbox One
@George... the point is that they could have done more with more resources. @nypifisel to be fair, even some early titles are gonna have a hard time getting to 1080p. It should still be noted that the Xbox One has an upscaler. I think it will be a while before the Xbox's resources are completely saturated like presently on 360 and PS3
@georgeenoob: Oh hi there, you've been gone awhile haven't you? Firstly, there really isn't a such thing as too much memory. Devs didn't WANT 512mb of memmory, they HAD 512mb memory. They'd have definitely loved more. Secondly, no one cares about or brought up Xbox One so kindly take it elsewhere.
@georgeenoob Wow that comment proves you have no idea how RAM works or what it is for that matter
^^^ I read your comment in the Bill and Ted voice...lol
@Eonjay Upscaling isn't doing IQ that many favours though, it got nothing on native. Xbox One will hang around for a while but I still think MS did a fatal mistake not investing in more powerful hardware, the PS4 will pull ahead (hell we already see it with all PS4 titles so far being announced as 1080p while Xbox One is suffering from 720p and 900p in their exclusives, only 1080p except Forza on the XB1 as far as I know is Cod Ghost!)
Oi, one bubble. Be quiet.
Totes! Quiet georgenoob...please. 86 and counting disagrees. ^~^
LOL @ the commercial reference!
256mb gddr3 + 256mb xdr Rambus @3.2 ghz
C'mon guys give georgeenoob a breathing space.
Reading first comment, seeing those two disagrees and realizing: there are two boys with way too small ducks in here. Please excuse my bad spelling.
Only 'cause S-E cannot wont have something to blame when they corner cut now. Their games have been lacking lately.
The clown of the day goes to to GGn00b, again.
Isn't Square the company that suggested both consoles use 8GBs of ram though? I don't get the "too much" comment (unless it was tongue in cheek)
i couldn't say less :D
Too much of Greatness can never be too much :D
Although he was only joking, He just doesnt need as much memory for the game he's creating on his Kingdom Hearts 3 engine. But I bet All devs don't share that sentiment. 3.5gb is dedicated to the OS/UX and DVR recording. Hopefully like this gen, the memory footprint may expand and more memory would be usable to games as the years go by, maybe from 4.5–5gb to 6.5gb. I BET They're OTHER game engines out there that will probably tax the PS4 memory beyond it's means further down it's lifetime. 8GB may seem like overkill now. BUT Sony made sure the PS4 had longer legs this time. But will 8gb be enough for games creation in around 2018?
Uh If your talking about the PS4 you know that rumor that 3.5gb dedicated to the OS was debunked right....It's 5.5gb for games with a flexible 1gb extra with the rest going to the OS
Too little and too much are all opinions. In my opinion I would rather have a perfect balanced console then having a unbalanced console that's great in certain areas but gives up other important areas. I feel neither the xboxone nor the ps4 are a perfectly balancd console but I do believe they will both have there pros and cons and it will be about this time next year that we have games that can significantly use the consoles strengths which is memory, and 8 cores to name a few. Off topic.. I tried to trade my ps3 in at gamestop for new system next month since they have a 30% bonus right now and I know my system is the smaller one at fat 40 gigs but the offer was for 50.00. I kept it as the bluray player is worth more than 50.00. My point is gamestop has been ripping off gamers from day 1.
Then why cant PS4 play battlefield 4 at 1080p? And no its not ecause devs dont know the hardware its X86 architecture jsut like PC's. X86 means it has pretty much been already optimized. So yeah why is it not running @1080p, im not trolling im still buying a PS4 but im simply not believing its "too much"
Call it, the "Wii u syndrome"
It's all about future proofing it, in 4 - 5 years the games will use most if not all of this RAM.
yeah they prefer these god damn tablets now ey?
Better to have more than less. Even if devs don't use the whole 8gigs it's still better to have the option.
wasn't it something like 4.5 gigs that they can use? i can be wrong i don't know
you may be right i have no idea at this point. guess we'll find out at launch
I forget, I think it was like 4.5 gigs, and some sort of extra 1 gig for things too.
it was 6.5 and the other went to os
4.5 was a rumor it's 6.5 believe
It's 4.5 GB by default, but there is an extra 2GB free floating that devs can allocate if necessary.
It's 5.5gb for games with an extra 1gb flexible so basically 6.5 for games and the rest goes to the OS
I understand that Kingdom Hearts is a much loved franchise, but I really don't wanna hear Nomura talk about anything other than Final Fantasy XV for now. For the love of Jeebus just get that game done!
I must agree on this one and btw I really hope that FF15 will be at least superb game, FF series been in stagnation for too long.
ppl waited more than 10 years for a Kingdom hearts myself included so i believe it deserve all the attention we all know a new FF game is coming every 2-4 years so let KH3 shine
Hopefully by Jump festa in December
It has to be out by the end of next year at the very latest, it just has to. It feels like Square Enix have found their focus again.
Now guys, just imagine a game that fully uses all 8 Gigs of RAM. Monster.
uncharted 4... :o
Let us wait for Naughty Gods next IP.
By the end of PS4's lifespan it won't be enough and it will be canceled and put on the PS5 instead.
By the end of any console's lifespan, whatever tech is inside won't be enough for what certain devs want to accomplish. I wonder if you'll get another bubble or make a relevant point by the end of the PS4's lifespan...
He can't even handle the awesomeness that is PS4. Can you blame him?
Having too much ram is like having too much money !!!! NUFF " said
Better that they complain about having too much than to little. @Georgeenoob Oh knock it off already no matter what you say or do it won't stop the PS4 from being successful. Nexus 7 2013
Let him one bubble whine. The more he comments the faster he gets banned again lol. He brings it on himself.
Oh man, still cant believe KH3 is FINALLY coming out. Still in awe.
Yeah me too, it has been a long time I've been waiting for it to be announced. Did you see the new trailer? It looks so awesome and its still early in development, so it can only get even better. @For those making a big deal about this, Nomura said it in a joking way, hence, the laughter at the end of his quote. No need to down play the PS4 and Nomura since the other console has 8 GB too!
Saw it and it looks close to those CG cutscenes from KH2 :)
Naughty dogs are going to blow us away like. Always
Good for you Nomura.. now hurry up and and releases a bloody game already.. last time people talked about this guy *cough* FFXII vs *cough* my friends didn't have kids and where not married.
All I care about is wether they release it to PC. It just seems so stupid that they develop a game on the PC and have it running and then don't release on it. Makes no sense whatsoever. I already missed out on enough KH titles because i didnt have a perticular system.
i don't think they'll do it but that would be cool
I thought that console games where developed on dev kits with pc being a catalyst of sortz?...
I have no idea how they actually program a game like that :) But I do know that the Nomura guy was talking about Directx11. And that's obviously a PC thing (and XB1). If it runs on Directx11 it should run on PC... I mean xb1 and PC, the chips are made by the same manufacturer (AMD) they have the same CPU structure, same kind of ram, and they even use the same API. I'm no expert but that doesnt sound like alot of "porting" to me. It should just run with minor modifications.
Been waiting long enough.
Forgive me, people, but I'd like to run an experiment. I once read in an article that though KH games are loved, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who understands the story. Click Agree if you DO understand the plot of the entire saga or Disagree if you do not.
I love deep stories but I'mnot prepared buying 5 different ssystems just to play all of them...
That's why i waited to get a collection and now they have 1.5 remix which im playing now and loving. Now they have announced a 2.5 which should really fill the gap and give you the ability to play KH and not have to buy 5 systems.
The plot is simple: Sora lives on an island with his best friend. He wishes there was more to life and explores the island. Then his boss drives up in a Porsche golf cart and drives him around for a little bit. Then his boss does and Sora and Adrien Zimmed have to pretend he is still alive. Antics ensue... Oh wait... That's the movie Weekend at Bernie's... Nevermind...
It not that hard to understand. I understand the whole thing and I haven't even played all the games.
It's not TOO complicated- though the details are pretty in-depth- but I couldn't explain it to you because it's been years since I've played.
more complicated now that this game is released also on xbox one anw ps4 day one for me and if there is a spcial edition then thats the way to go