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Submitted by Abriael 409d ago | news

Microsoft’s Albert Penello Investigates on Xbox One/PS4 Resolution Differences, Discusses Findings

Microsoft’s Director of Product Planning Albert Penello has been on the forefront of the promotion of the Xbox One lately, but apparently he’s also been asking himself some questions about the relative power of the Xbox One and its rival, the PS4. There have been lots of news and rumors on what games runs at what resolution and framerate on what platform, and apparently Penello decided to try and find out some solid data. (Albert Penello, PS4, Xbox One)

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NatureOfLogic   409d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(12)
Godmars290  +   409d ago
No, no, don't tell me; he votes in favor of the XB1.
Abriael  +   409d ago
Actually no, he dosn't.
Dee_91  +   408d ago
I actually like this dude better than the last one
At least he's honest and doesn't try to twist crap.
DigitalRaptor  +   409d ago
What a sad situation when the Director of Product Planning has to come on Neogaf to damage control against a list of games that he isn't even responsible for, in the very first place.

What have Microsoft come to? First it was putting Larry the dog into the wild to get shot down, but now Penello is being appointed as community Xbox One brand reputation management, and can't even do that right?
Godmars290  +   408d ago
What's sad is that I recently noticed that in a promo pic of DR3 all the characters are floating off the ground.

I mean its a premiere XB1 title, and they're promoting it with a picture that shows a glitch.

And no, Penello shouldn't have to do anything like this on gaming forums. Especially shouldn't be doing it badly.

As to your 3.1.2 comment: Guess we'll just have to see what's going to be an actual or timed exclusive on the PS4 then, wont we? Though isn't the Joker levels from Arkham Asylum still PS3-only?
Mystogan  +   408d ago
I think he's doing a great job. Its just that it doesn't work on PSfanboys like you, no matter what he says or does PSfanboys will still spin it into something negative.

"Penello saves the world by destroying an asteroid" PSfanboys: What an asshole! he just killed that asteroid!! What is he doing saving the world in the first place? He should be making games like Sony is doing!

"Penello adopts a dozen kittens"

PSfanboys: OMG did he just take a dozen kittens from their home? What an asshole!
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rainslacker  +   408d ago
I was never really sure what to think of Penello. I really want to give him the benefit of the doubt that he truly believes in what he's trying to sell. But I have to question his tactic of asking the community for the answers to the questions that they are asking him.

I honestly believe MS needs to stop trying to compare the Xbox One to the PS4, whether directly or implied. It's the wrong tactic right now. Sony has everything going for them right now, and this whole tactic is just making MS look like an envious school child trying to be more like his big brother to impress the older kids at school.

MS has it's good points, they should focus on those. Address what happened directly. Give firm, clear answers, and let the Xbox One sell itself. It worked for the 360.
Ryto  +   408d ago
I think Penello came across very honest and straight forward. Found that a quite interesting read.
kevnb  +   408d ago
is this legit? the ps4 must have a bigger advantage than I thought. What if we run the ps4 at lower res, do we get higher fps?
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nosferatuzodd  +   408d ago
lol wow what a great show
Globox2012  +   409d ago
Can't tell if he's beginning to worry or not, but to be honest let the games decide.
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BlackTar187  +   409d ago
Res is nothing compared to story and gameplay.

Sorry this nonsense about RES and graphics being so important makes me feel like we lost touch of whats important about games. Sure its nice to have all but the measuring stick doesn't start or end with graphics.

If Last of us was on ps2 the game and story telling would still have me excited.

Gameplay and story conquer all.
Brazz  +   409d ago
can't agree more!!
a7xgemini  +   409d ago
You are absolutely correct, and I've grown more and more ashamed of fellow gamer's in the community the last 10 years or so. What happened to just enjoying games? I get it, it's fun to poke fun sometimes if its in good spirit, but at the end of the day, don't we all just want good experiences in our favorite medium? Buy Both, Buy One, Buy the other, who cares?
JunkieJedi  +   409d ago
Or if res and graphics don't matter to you...buy neither!
Nocando  +   408d ago
Read "Lord of the Flies", I think it's kinda like that.
Jazz4108  +   408d ago
Who cares? Sony fans do. You cant enjoy another product on this site and be sane. Bzzzzzzz
cell989  +   408d ago
but dont you see, The Last Of Us ahs great story, great gameplay, and great GRAPHICS, is it too much as a gamer to ask for all three? do we have to settle for less, for trade offs?
Caleb_H   409d ago | Bad language | show | Replies(1)
thejigisup  +   409d ago
This was probably the most interesting read I've had all day. It's refreshing to read about a ms employee looking to actually clear things up.
Abriael  +   409d ago
I agree. That's why I like Penello quite a lot (even if a lot people treat him like the worst corporate shill). He has no qualms in discussing this kind of things even rather aggressively.

Gotta give it to him.

Now let the disagrees come!
strifeblade  +   409d ago
correction. let the agrees come because thats all i am seeing.
rainslacker  +   408d ago
I agree. I like the way he sometimes discusses and puts things out there in terms of the real world. He sometimes spins the corporate line though and dodges questions, or comes off as antagonistic when his claims are countered by knowledgeable people.

Otherwise, I actually like him overall when he's just discussing MS, it's policies, or the XBox One itself, even if it's the positive outlook type talk. He gets too defensive other times.

One thing I give him credit for is that when he doesn't know the answer to something, he does at least admit it, and doesn't try to spin it into something fancy like "flip-a-switch" Neilson. He also says he'll find out the answer to something, and quite often he does.
BitbyDeath  +   409d ago
Well that backfired....
Destrania  +   409d ago
Oh no, not this guy again...
maniacmayhem  +   409d ago
I like this quote from the article comments:

"usually when a rumor supports whatever side your rooting for (x1 or ps4), then it becomes fact and people run with it. Its just the immaturity of the vocal gamer that makes us all look like childish fanboys."

I love how the attention to what makes video gaming important always shifts. It went from games, to exclusives to now what resolution the game is in.

What will be next?
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Goku781  +   409d ago
So basically he said a lot of nothing.

Discredit, misinformation, confusion, technique!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?...
Gamer666  +   409d ago
Wow... Great quality articles on N4G...

If twitter is the primary news source it must be a slow day...
MightyNoX  +   409d ago
You're welcome to make a home on Microsoft's official forums.
srd4484  +   409d ago
You people are disagreeing and bashing him BUT you aren't answerin his question. Seems like your ignoring it bc u don't know. Which is why he asked.
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Smoovekid  +   409d ago
Without GDDR5 ram it is going to be hard for the Xbox to output 1080p. DDR3 is too slow for graphics memory and there is not enough ESRAM.
pyramidshead  +   408d ago
thought the esram was like a bandaid to help it keep up?
Flutterby  +   408d ago
From what I can tell from all the tech threads , the ESram is one of the leading causes that the game won't have many 1080p games because of the size of the files being usually 48mb or larger while the ram is only 32mb
DanielGearSolid  +   409d ago
I'm a Sony guy... But Penello is one of the few execs I dont despise... Now Greenburg, I hate
MightyNoX  +   409d ago
"Penelleo Investigates--"

This can only end well..
Viking_Socrates  +   409d ago
Glad to see more 1080P support on the PS4, although I expect the order to be upscaled to 1080p eventually.
strifeblade  +   409d ago
the order cannopt be upscaled to 1080p. Its running 1920x800. That means black bars up and down (widescreen cinema style.) The fact is though, what ever picture you see in the black bars is 1080p or percieved 1080p. The evil within is doing the same thing. Ryse is 900p but on a full screen image. If the order wanted to go full screen it would probably be 900p or ess than 1080p.
brometheos  +   409d ago
It is 1920x800 which produces the same picture quality as 1920x1080, only that is has a different aspect ratio. Simply put,it is 1080p res with black bars at the bottom and top of the screen, just like how it looks when watching a movie.
Viking_Socrates  +   408d ago
Thanks for the replies.
Kujii  +   409d ago
Playstation 4

The Order: 1886 = 1920×800
KillZone: Shadow Fall = 1920×1080 (MP=60fps, SP=30fps)
Infamous: Second Son = 1920×1080
DriveClub = 1920×1080 (Targeting 60fps)
Resogun = 1920×1080 (60fps)
Knack = 1920×1080
Assassin’s Creed 4: Black Flag = 1920×1080
Thief = 1920×1080
Blacklight: Retribution = 1920×1080
Warframe = 1920×1080
Call of Duty: GHOSTS = 1920×1080
Flower = 1920×1080 (60fps)
FIFA = 1920×1080
DC: Universe Online = 1920×1080 (60fps)

Xbox One

Killer Instinct = 1280×720 (60fps)
Ryse: Son of Rome = 1600×900
Forza 5 = 1920×1080 (60fps)
Call of Duty: GHOSTS = 1920×1080
FIFA = 1920×1080
Dead Rising 3 = “Dynamic” Resolution (30fps)

I thought it would be more even then that. Oh well let hope they can unlock more potential down the track

What the hell is Dynamic Resolution?
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MightyNoX  +   409d ago
It's teach speak for "our console can't handle the game, so it dumbs down the resolution to keep up."

Ever played a Youtube video on a slow connection? You'll find that if a video plays on 720P, it'll suddenly switch to 420 and lower depending on your connection.

The One comes with this feature. Most of its games are 900P but will dumb down to 720P or lower without your consent just to keep up.
smoothop  +   409d ago
Its the same as Killzone Shadowfall not running at 60fps like people seem to think, it aims to hit 60 fps but it is not a stable 60fps and will dip.
Kujii  +   409d ago
That sucks. I wonder how they will pull this off.

Will it be seemless during gameplay or something that will happen quickly between cut scenes
brometheos  +   409d ago
@smoothop It is a stable 60fps, but dips in extreme cases, like if everyone (24 players) on the map throws a grenade, etc.
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BallsEye  +   408d ago
Care to show the source from devs of all that confirmed resolutions? Especially those indies...(you "forgot" to list ones for XO...typical)

If there is no dev confirmation then it didn't happen. I've been looking everywhere and I just can't find it. You must have more knowledge than google...or you just keep on reposting what other users with no sources posted before.
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Kujii  +   408d ago
Dude.

Read the article before posting idiot comments. Seriously.

IN THE ARTICLE there is a link to the thread where people have listed each resolution + framerate with linked sources.

The reason there are no listings for certain games is because there are no linked sources.

Link to thread below:
http://neogaf.com/forum/sho...
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Deep-throat  +   409d ago
lol, some say MS are forcing third party devs to not make the PS4 vers look better at all.
ziggurcat  +   408d ago
Well, MS does have a thing about games potentially being worse on xbox (in that they don't want games to be worse own xbox), so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they were throwing money around for the sake of parity.

Of course it's all useless at this point to postulate about what MS is doing behind closed doors.
OrangePowerz  +   409d ago
They must know the resolutions because they will already have the games and I`m sure they can get an image of what is currently in the buffer before it gets upscaled. They release screenshots that have the same resolution the game runs in (Forza screens are in 1080p, Ryse screens are in 900p and so on) so they must have a way to get them directly from the console in non upsclaed form.
SyrusRiddick  +   409d ago
Playstation fanboys make me ashamed I preordered a ps4 and it's not all if them but a good chunk of them are the biggest bunch of assholes available if you have no interest in an X1 shut the piss up about it.
Nocando  +   408d ago
Thank you, here's a "well said".
Tctczach  +   408d ago
I think it is kind of funny how they gloat about it like it is their girlfriend or something.
rainslacker  +   408d ago
Should they feel bad because you check your feelings based on other people's behavior? You are the only one accountable to yourself. If you're ashamed because of some forum goers, it means you have other dependencies which are probably much more deeply ingrained.

In other words, have faith in yourself, and don't let anyone tell you how to feel or what you support.
jessupj  +   408d ago
I think they keep harping on because some peope just can't grasp the simple fact that the PS4 is significantly more powerful than the xbone. They'll continue to harp on until MS fanboys face reality.

They're also very concered that MS is going to force developers to hold back PS4 multiplats to perform the same as their xbone counterparts.

I for one am buying a PS4 and am fully expecting superior multiplats. If MS hold an entire generation back I will be very very disappointed and will have very low respect for anyone that blindly supports this company.
Hicken  +   408d ago
Why should you be ashamed? Fanboys are fanboys; they don't decide my purchase, and how they act online doesn't impact how I play my games.

The willingness of many of the Xbox fanboys to eschew reality wouldn't deter me from getting the system(Microsoft does that). And, seriously, the Xbox fanboys are as bad as any Sony fanboy you can point out.

Finally, stop with this "You're not getting one, so why do you care?" routine. I'm not going to high school- already graduated- but the schools doing well or poorly matters to me. I don't live in Syria, but I care about what's going on over there.

I may not be picking up an XB1 any time soon(I should finally get around to grabbing a 360 around the holidays, though), but what Microsoft is doing with their system is still important to me, if only because of how it can and will impact the manufacturers of consoles I would rather buy.

So no, I will not shut the piss up about the XB1.
jeffgoldwin  +   408d ago
Of course you wont Hicky. Your a foaming at the mouth fanboy at every turn you can make. It's one thing to recognize the pros and cons of each system, and them theres Hicky types. Where the brainwashing techniques and fanatical need to declare "I'm right, everyone else is wrong" syndrome. It's sad really.
PositiveEmotions  +   409d ago
Pennelo needs a MRI Scan I swear
corvusmd  +   408d ago
Smart statement, most probably didn't get what he was doing, but without getting into an argument with a fanboy, he's basically proven that the list the PS Fanboys are running with as "fact" is really just rumor...and even then just rumors in a way that makes PS4 look good. Conveniently, most games leave out framerate...the questions isn't between being able to do native 1080p OR 60fps...it's doing both at the same time. XB1 is actually the only system with a AAA title doing both at the same time...true it's a racing game but still. Really it seems like more of what we are seeing is just a difference of preference...until we learn more, all we can ASSUME from these numbers is that when either system can't reach both 1080p and 60fps...PS4 leans towards higher resolution where as XB1 leans towards framerate....anything else (and this as well) is speculation NOT fact
christocolus  +   408d ago
i really enjoyed reading this article...dont know why fanboys hate listening to peoples opinions..this article was very informative..atleast i never believed all the crap people post online regarding framerate and resolutions...what i need are just good games..but it seems some people here rather count frame rates than enjoy gaming with their friends.....that aside i think penello and the rest of the team are doing a great job..great guys.
Kujii  +   408d ago
That list was created on Neogaf and Resolution + Framerates were only posted with linked sources

http://neogaf.com/forum/sho...

"PS4 leans towards higher resolution where as XB1 leans towards framerate"

Last time I checked developers made games. I dont think the engineers that made either console got together and said "lets lean towards resolution"
christocolus  +   408d ago
albert great guy and really down to earth..i enjoyed reading this article...ive got a better understanding of how the relationship between console manufacturers and third party devs work....good to know. also i dont give a damn about resolution all i want are great games and so far the xbx one got them coming...great job ms...good read albert,good read.
BobBelcher  +   408d ago
Don't worry Albert, I'm getting an XB1 as well.
DirtyLary  +   408d ago
Can't part from that controller.
Thatlalala  +   408d ago
Why would I watch my movies and TV shows in Sd, when I can watch the HD channels or a blu ray. I wouldn't, you wouldn't. Why would someone settle for less when a better option is in reasonable reach. 1080p, 60fps should be the standard for next gen. Anything less is poppycock.
hellvaguy  +   408d ago
So instead settling for maybe 1080p on certain games with a console, go 2500x1400 on a pc. I agree, dont settle. Avoid being that poppycock.
ziggurcat  +   408d ago
I just don't see any reason why something like resolution would/should be sensitive information... If anything, it should inherently be public knowledge - unless they're trying to hide something?
jessupj  +   408d ago
I'd imagine if MS found out that X game was running at a higher resolution on the PS4, that would cause a lot of trouble for the developer and publisher of X game from MS.
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