Phil Harrison points at all the recognition received at industry events like E3 and Gamescom as proof that the system has the strongest titles.
Lol, I guess 900p is pretty strong./s Get 1080p/60fps without sacrifices or scaling back and we're golden.
Even if MS got 1080p/60fps people would still find something to complain about.
Yep well they shouldn't have tried to screw us all over with horrible policies. They deserve this ongoing response.
But they don't and still brag with everything they can. Just take a look at recent news.
"Says Harrison" Come on now people, you should have stopped reading right there. Why not ask the organizers of these events if that's true or not. Did Harrison go to other booths to see if this claim was true or not? Of course he didn't. He's contractually obligated to say this. Even if it's true, who cares? The pre-order numbers are saying that people are more interested in the PS4 and its games anyway.
"boeso" (Yep well they shouldn't have tried to screw us all over with horrible policies. They deserve this ongoing response.) how did they try to screw every one they thot it was time to use drm for that is going to happen sooner or later anyway but in the end they listen to the consumers and changed it.if anything this should show you that they will listen to the customer.my opinion they should of kept the old policy but it doesn't matter
@DragonKnight: No, the awards for the games are awarded by a third party that looks at all the games, and decides. So no, Harrison doesn't need to go to other booth. Others has done the work for him! "Even if it's true, who cares? The pre-order numbers are saying that people are more interested in the PS4 and its games anyway." So what official pre-order number do you have? Real source please? As far as I can tell, every single console allocated to retailers have been sold at this point. In short, you can't tell. However, I find it ironic that you of all people now use the "sales" argument. Oh, the irony!
Despite all the crying and belly aching over his comment. He is actually correct. Sometime Sony seems to not even show their games at these events. There is very little news and when there was it was that Kill Zone has great lighting. Nothing about how innovative and fun it is. Forget the other launch exclusives. Even PS fans don't talk too much about them. T hey are looking and next years releases, and trashing the high profile X1 games.
@Bigboirock Well if you agree with their proposed policies, you're going to disagree with what I said. I strongly believe DRM and always online is not consumer centric and is just a way of making more money from us, for them. Power to the people; there is way more consumers than businessmen's pocket: it won't happen if we won't let it happen. But then again, you agree with their policies, so to me you are a lost cause. Sorry but that's how I see it.
I understand the "he works for Microsoft" comments but in this case he is correct so nothing wrong with acknowledging/promoting that X1 launch games have attracted the most attention a awards. Sony has done the same in the past, so what I dont understand is why some get so mad at Microsoft for promoting positive Xbox news. lol Why wouldn't they?
@nukeitall: You're right, I rarely use the sales argument, but the proof is on Amazon if you want to look. You'll have to look back a ways though because PS4's pre-order numbers have been higher for quite a long time. And to point out the flaw in your end of the argument, while true that both have "sold out" a long time ago, we don't know what that means. We do know Sony has been pumping out consoles to meet demand so we do know that, at least for the PS4, it's a high number. MS on the other hand have been pretty quiet on that front, only saying that they've sold out. So the thing we do know for certain is that the PS4 has been in higher demand for a longer time, Sony has been increasing production of consoles to be available for launch to fulfil pre-orders, and for both we don't know the exact number so "sold out" can literally mean they supplied one console which was bought, or 1 million which were bought. But look into it yourself. You're on the internet right now. But LMAO at E3 awards. That's hilarious right there. Because awards = more recognition and actual money put down on the games doesn't. LOL!
@DragonKnight: "@nukeitall: You're right, I rarely use the sales argument," Unless it benefits your agenda you mean? When it was swinging the other way, it didn't matter and you were claiming the opposite. "but the proof is on Amazon if you want to look. You'll have to look back a ways though because PS4's pre-order numbers have been higher for quite a long time." Amazon doesn't say anything, it merely says that more PS4 supply is available, because both sold out long time ago. More speculation, because you don't know how many would have sold if it was available. In fact, a pre-order isn't even a sale until it is payed for and merchandises exchange hands. "But look into it yourself. You're on the internet right now." Well using your argument, I say "Xbox One sold more! You are on the internet, look into it yourself!" Back up your own claim, or your just full of speculation. "Sony has been increasing production of consoles to be available for launch to fulfil pre-orders," and so has MS, increasing their production to meet demand. Fact of the matter is, there are too many variables in the early cycle to say sales reflect demand. The PS3 had huge demand in it's early cycle and then demand immediately tapered off. The Wii U had huge demand as well, but look where it is now. Bottom line, it is just way too early to say. Too many variables, but that doesn't stop the fangirls from talking sh!t. There is at least three requirements to determine demand: a) if supply exceeds demand (usually by seeing if the console is easily available at most retailers or etailers) b) that a sale has actually taken place (assuming it is for use and not scalping, but that indicates high demand) c) that the sales number you receive is from a good cross section of sellers and trust worthy For instance, if Amazon sells little make-up does that indicate low demand? "But LMAO at E3 awards. That's hilarious right there. Because awards = more recognition and actual money put down on the games doesn't. LOL!" So now you care about sales? Didn't critically acclaim matter more to you? That said, I said nothing about what you stated. Awards means simply that somebody recognized it more than other games at the show! Going by your logic though, the lines for trying Titanfall is among the longest at the trade shows.
Alright lets give them that. BUT the reason being that sony recently have released and supported the ps3 with a plathora of exclusives. This gen most of the Sony exclusives were praised and were recognized a lot more than your typical halo or gears games.
people were playing halo online for over a year heavily , same with gears, but not the games that were exclusive to the ps3 but i agree with rest that you said,the single player portions of the ps3 exclsuives got recognized but then the games died months later cause the multiplayer part stunk on all of them
finally someone who understands how Sony operates. yes they could have given up on the ps3 like ms has on the 360 but they have said all along that ps3 is a 10yr console. just think of the number of games released this yr that could of easily been ps4 launch titles. just a few off the top of my head. gow-a tlou gt6 puppeteer beyond rain feel free to add more.
Gears was is more influential game than and any ps3 exclusive...Uncharted doesn't even come close to what gears offered for this gen. Halo is still unmatched in terms of the contents it offers. You must have been living under a rock when Gears, Halo 3 and Mass effect were getting praised and recognised. Xbox started with tons of exclusives and PS3 ends with tons of exclusives.
Tell me, Spurg, do you enjoy having bad tastes, or is it something you loathe? Even as someone who preferred the 360 at the start of the gen, Halo and Gears are mediocre at best. The PS3 has a wider variety of shooters, including MAG, Killzone, Resistance, Socom, Dust 514, Uncharted and TLoU... The majority of these (excluding Killzone 3) perform exceptionally well in both single player and multiplayer. There's a common misconception that the 360 was the shooter console, but it only has two notable shooter exclusives. And as far as saying Gears is more influential than any other exclusive? That's talking out your arse, those titles belong to Journey and TLoU, as well as the most entertaining online being MAG.
@ Spurg Initially, yeah, credit where it is due. Last time I checked though, the Gears series was turning into a joke.
@Nabbic Halo and gears mediocre???? You must have you finger way up your arse. You mention Uncharted...but would it have been here without the influence from gears. Gears cover system is easily the most copied idea this gen. Gears 2 is even more influence as it introduced Horde mode...I don't even have to list the amount of games that were influenced by horde mode. It becomes pretty obvious that gears series has been one of the most influential games this gen. You got anything about the impact of gears. please mention it. Halo 4 has 4 player coop campaign, Spartan ops 4 co op multiplayer(Play similar to horde mode but has a story), Forge mode(create your own maps, game mode and share it), theatre mode(save your clips and screenshots and share it(COD was influenced by this)) and multiplayer(the amount of game mode that are in Halo is unmatched). Halo has halo wayponit track your stats and checkout the clips and screenshots you uploaded(COD was also influenced by this). The story and lore of Halo is also unmatched for an FPS. But does Killzone and Resistance do all of that. Like a typical Sony fanboy you mention something like Journey and TLOU 2 highly rated as being influential without backing your statement. I ask you this question what games were influenced by Journey and TLOU. Do you even understand what were so influential about Journey and TLOU. Do you even understand what influence means.
^dboyc310...While M$FT is pulling former Xbox 360 titles to rush over to Xbone (Dead Rising 3, Ryse, etc)...Sony has been committed to delivering games on PS3 well into the start of the PS4's life cycle.
@ spurg Cover system was introduce in gaming by a N64 game called Winback and was later evolved in MGS2 and Killswitch. Not only that but killswitch's lead designer himself, was hired by Epic to work on Gears cover system. How much is Gears influential? A big fat 0.
"Gears cover system is easily the most copied idea this gen." Gears wasn't the first TPS game ever to have a cover system, you cannot possibly be that ignorant. Also Uncharted 2 is the highest rated console exclusive of this generation, just sayin.
I am pretty sure they can only say this cause they are counting titanfall which they shouldn't as I could play it on my pc
But not on a ps4.
@buynit Not yet ;)
There is not that much of a difference between 900p and 1080p to be honest. Of course it would be better to have every game run at 1080p but it's not that big of a deal really.
1080p doesnt make a game great. It makes the experience a little better for some people, but most people just dont care.
"Get 1080p/60fps without sacrifices or scaling back and we're golden. " So you mean... graphically perfect games that run at perfect FPS and perfect resolution? OK buddy.
Framerate > resolution. I game in 768p and its awesome
"most heralded game in the history of E3." Wow E3 has really gone downhill.
When a company(Ouya Inc) hold a presentation in the parking lot its a clear sign that E3 gone downhill.
are you serious...that really happened? SMDH!
One step forward, three steps back if Titanfall is considered the most heralded game in the history of E3. Granted it looks very good but nothing more than a unique twist on a milked genre.
a presentation that also got shut down by the cops
it didnt get shutdown. though e3 tried to get it shutdown. Mad they didnt want to pay for an expensive booth lol what should have gotten e3 awards? knack killzone? lol
Funny cos XBOX ONE has received more recognition at industry events for being a hateful POS that tried to kill all the fun of gaming in the name of $$$ and setting up 'revenue streams' for future targeted advertising. MS are so full of shit these days.
Out of curiosity, please explain to me how the DRM that MS was going to enforce ruined any of the Fun, and don't come back with a silly response like "If I didn't have internet I couldn't play" because that is hardly Microsofts fault you can't get the internet, so please, tell me about all these innovative features that "ruined" the fun of gaming? Just decided to read more comments. All these comments about most of MS's Xbox games going to be on PC, please do tell me all about your exclusive games that aren't going to be on PC, like, all those Indies & Free To Play games that featured first on PC?
Polysix never mention anything about DRM. However most XB1 recognition has come from backlash from gamers. The May conference, E3, PR saying one thing MS heads saying another, MS having to clarify themselves on multiple occasions.
i agree with zealous. microsoft has constantly changed their mind leading up to this gen. and that has caused a lot of confusion for people.thats not to say i wont be getting an xbox one but ill b getting my ps4 first...not just cuz it releases first.
The confusion was caused by people taking most rumours as facts until Microsoft clarified. Everything Microsoft reps said was being over analyzed. The same thing has happened with Sony. Most gamers won't even know about all the political talk behind the consoles. You really think that will effect consumers views of the console? Something Microsoft reps say ain't going to make the console any less fun. Ultimately, the only thing that will matter will be the games.
"and don't come back with a silly response like "If I didn't have internet I couldn't play" because that is hardly Microsofts fault you can't get the internet" So now because I can't afford internet or I'm in a zone where the internet is S*** or has no internet then I am not allowed to enjoy gaming !? I'm really glad that you have no power over these companies,because you'll lose sales FAST.
If you don't have a stable internet connection in 2013 you have more things to worry about than getting a gaming console.
I enjoy playing games. Owning/selling those games is not something I'm bothered about at all (games I get from Playstation plus are no less enjoyable just because Sony own them, right?). The always-online console had the potential to enhance games. Hopefully developers will still have have the guts to make always-online games where it can enhance the experience.
I still can't take him serious as a Microsoft representative. All i see Is Playstation and little rubber ducks!
I remember that presentation! XD
you guys make me feel ashamed that I'm even a PlayStation fan... -___-
I look at your comment history and it made me sad to write a reply to you.
It's funny because Xbox One's biggest title (TitanFall) is going to be on PS4 down the line (probably a year later like Bioshock). Check this... http://www.gamefront.com/ti...
It may or may not happen, but the fact remains; They have not flat out denied it possibly happening. Just like Rockstar has not flat out denied a pc or next gen port of gta5.
Nor is it an Xbox One exclusive anyway. Looking forward to playing it on my PC!
A year later is an old game they maybe talking about titanfall 2 then!
but the point is who cares, by then no none will play it. so just cause it will arrive to the ps4 a year later it will not do them any good, people dont buy old games and turn them into system sellers when they already were played for a year on the other console
Gotta disagree based on the pedigree of the company making it. These guys have also had bad dealings with publishers before, (Activision) and have chosen to keep the rights to their future games. There's no way it's staying exclusive forever. Most of these guys have worked on some of the best FPS games in history. The only ones I would rank higher are iD, Valve, and their mod communities. People will be playing Titanfall even a year after it comes out. There's zero chance of me getting an Xbox One, and I'm super jelly of this game. The rest of the exclusives don't do anything for me.
Don't deny the Xbox one has a good launch window of games and Titanfall seems to be the game that people have enjoyed playing the most. But it all comes down to preference at the end of the day.
Not denying but it's coming to PC too,so if you have a decent gaming PC that costs in the range of $800 to $1500 then you can max out the game with a solid 60FPS since the game graphics isn't that demanding as other titles coming to next gen(even on the XboxOne). Or if you're not into PC gaming and would be ok with just owning a console,there is no shame in preferring the XboxOne,it's all about the games at the end of the day.
yea a 800 dollar pc to a 500 dollar console oook. I think both consoles have one of the best lines ups in history. cant wait,hopefully yakuza comes out here
Wow...Just wow at those tutting M$FT's PR horn...Most of those damn titles were suppose to be on the damn 360...Sony caught M$FT off guard twiddling their thumbs while the PS4 was being prepped anyways. M$FT went from a one year head start, lower price point, RROD sales boost, and taken market share from Sony to help them last gen...This gen they will get STOMPED.
Yeh those pc games MS showed got a lot of recognition lol what about the xbone games tho.
He is right have not heard anything about ps4 games its like they don't even exist.
Weird, cuz I've seen tons of PS4 PR, games and console services alike, and the only thing I've seen about anything Xbox 1 is the "Dewritos" giveaway.
Just think how much better received if the Xbox One has two skus. $399 without Kinect and $499 with Kinect. I would be damn near willing to bet that if the Xbox One had a $399 sku their pre-orders would be at least 33% higher than what ever it is at the present time.
Dunno where the 33% estimation comes from but yes the preorders would likely be higher. The console would be damaged long term though as there would be no incentive to develop for kinect. Wait 2 years and you'll see that kinect will be utilised but the eye won't.
If you research you will find that sony planned to do the same thing with drm but after Microsoft revealed and got a negative feedback they changed it at the last minute. The drm was an attempt to help development companies that are shutting down due to the fact that the used game market is major. Microsoft made that perfectly clear at e3. Sony was also gonna include the camera and the price was gonna be the same as x1. As gamers we are the minority because 360 and ps3 were used more for media hubs than gaming. Sony is in it for the money just as any other company so stop acting like they doing you a favor and ms is all about money. It's dumb to think that a company doesn't want your money. Drm is up to the developers just know that. If you want p4 get it and be happy.
If you research you'll find out that's a rumor started by MS fans
Let's take N4G for instance. The 'hottest games' list. Ryse: Sons of Rome is @ 8th, 18390 degrees.Guess which platform it's on.The most discussed next gen game on N4G. At almost every conference, folks are talking about Titanfall. In terms of launch window titles, I'd have to agree with Phil.
of course they have ... XBox One will be "the console" to talk about. no one cares about a little better graphics or resolution. - xbox live is better than psn - less lags/performance issues than ps games - better community features - exclusive deals ps4 is good for exclusives - nothing more.