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AMD Explains Why Mantle Is Exclusive To PC & Not Present On Xbox One

DSOGaming writes: "A couple of hours ago, Microsoft revealed that Xbox One only supports DX 11.x as its API. Contrary to rumors, Xbox One does not support Mantle (or any other API like OpenGL). A lot of gamers got confused by all of this, which is why AMD decided to step in and explain things."

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allformats1402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

It's on PS4, and that's all that matters to me.

So many problems with Xbox One, why gamers are even going near that thing at launch is beyond me.

Anyway, Greatness Awaits!

ONE. MORE. MONTH!!!!

JokesOnYou1402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

allformats: "It's on PS4, and that's all that matters to me"

-Huh? I must of read a different article than you. The article here states:

"AMD confirmed that Mantle is not in consoles, and will be an exclusive API for the PC https://twitter.com/AMDRade...

“What Mantle creates for the PC is a development environment that’s *similar* to the consoles, which already offer low-level APIs, close-to-metal programming, easier development and more (vs. the complicated PC environment)." -AMD

"So there you have it everyone. No Mantle on consoles. Not a bad thing as the architecture of a console allows developers to ‘code to the metal’ even by using DX11.x, something that is obviously not possible on the PC."

-lmfao, You are so quick to go on some fanboy rant you don't either both reading the news posts and make a fool of yourself spouting OLD misinformation.....and that's why gamers like me are going to go near(buy) it at launch because sonyfanboys like you just hate on X1 with BS made up info and flawed logic.

black0o1402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

@joke the ps4 has low-lvl API
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

-"PlayStation 4 has two rendering APIs One of them is the absolute low-level API"'
AMD cant just downply one console and favor the other one ;) and we already now that ps4 is supporting openGL/dx/..etc

OT:last time i check all consoles has low API which almost the same as mantle.

i'm surprised to see MS dropping the low-APi for the sack of Dx11.2

JokesOnYou1402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

blackoo, what are you going on about?

Yeah EVEN BEFORE MANTLE consoles have always enjoyed this advantage of low API allowing devs to ‘code to the metal’ so to speak....however this particular AMD Mantle is NOT on consoles straight from AMD mouth. Due to the headline allformats mistakenly implied it was on ps4 while not being on X1, THAT IS IN FACT FALSE. Your eurogamer link only acknowledges once again that Mantle is *similar* to ps4 API and DX11 X1 architechture for lower level game creation.

lol this is FROM THE VERY FIRST LINE IN YOUR OWN LINK, which just proves exactly what I said:
"AMD has revealed Mantle - a new low-level API for PC that offers game developers the opportunity to more directly access graphics hardware, eliminating many of the bottlenecks that hold back PC games performance from reaching its full potential"

-Why must I educate so often?

lol, fanboys have no shame, I guess AMD is now lying about their own tech, just hit disagree while all the links smack you in the face with the truth=say OUCH! lmfao

Klonopin1402d ago

They'll believe what they wanna hear regardless of what the article says.

black0o1402d ago

@jakes stop spinning facts for luv of God, u are trying so hard to put the ps4 and xbone on the same ship

bottom line is that Ps4 has secondary low-level API which specifically for the PS4 and M.cerny talked about it over and over unlike MS

so go ahead and find me a link or proof that says other wise except ur opinion

GTgamer1402d ago

Jokesonyou your a xbox fanboy so what are you going on about you defend MS to death but call out Sony fans for doing the same i don't get you :/ good neither console have Mantle so i guess no one wins this war so lets write long comments to prove what exactly? that both consoles don't have it good for you.

Ezz20131402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

@JokesOnYou

i will ask you this and i want a simple answer
since xbox don't have it
do ps4 have low-lvl API or not ?!
yes or no ?!
and i want a link that confirm it

don't give me long comment

black0o1402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

@disagrees and @jokes allow me to smack this on ur face http://www.pcgameshardware....

and my face is still waiting ..

@below i'm not saying that the ps4 has mantle i'm saying it has a low-lvl API and the fact that xbone only support the Dx unlike the ps4 which is supporting both Dx and openGl or anyother APi codes ''in other world the mantle is a copycat of what the Ps4's API do''

if what i'm saying is spinning then proof it

4Sh0w1402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

lol just verbally spanked all you fanboys.

blackoo if anybody is spinning its you, read carefully all jokes said was neither had Mantle which allformats said "Its on ps4" why are you correcting him everybody knows they can do low lvl game development lol thats not the point.

GTgamer hold on so wait anybody who corrects misinformation is an xbox fanboy=NO the bottomline is allformats is WRONG plain and simple thats not defending thats saying exactly what he did and you are just mad another sonfanboy got exposed as usual.

Ezz2013 wow are you slow? Read the damm news both have the ability to do low lvl game development similar to Mantle but its not Mantle like the first post said and blacoo wants is full of it trying to prove Jokes wrong when he clearly explains himself and its backed up right there in the links.

Ezz20131402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

@4Sh0w

i already know ps4 is using Low-lvl API but not the same as Mantle since it's exclusive to PC like this article confirm
and that what @black0o is saying
he never said ps4 is using Mantle
all he said ps4 is using Low-lvl API
but i didn't see anything that confirm it for xbox1
where is the link that confirm xbox is using it as well ?!

to be honest i have no idea what that do

GTgamer1402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

@4Show yes I'm a Sony fan big whoop i still a own xbox but i prefer Sony and PS for allot of reasons so i don't know what your exposing but that would make you a xbox fan too so i guess were both exposed smfh he didn't need to explain misinformation since that's what is article is for :).

mediate-this1402d ago

I honestly agree with you alot, i rarely type on here but i try, its good to read a post of some one who actually reads the article.

So much hate from both sides of the fence about these consoles, guys there just plastic. Enjoy your preferred taste, but the is just ridiculous

Ju1402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

"DirectX 11.2+/OpenGL4.4 FEATURE SET"...doesn't mean it runs those APIs, but it provides features on par with those APIs. What this mostly refers to is shader/compute within the render pipeline. And in no way does it confirm Mantel is in PS4s SDK (libGCM is).

christocolus1402d ago

@jokes

i read that article and it was stated clearly (not for consoles exclusive to pc)but yet they argue it...they seem to know better than amd now...dude sometimes its better to leave them in their ignorance...

RyuCloudStrife1402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

JokesOnYou although you are right this time(FINALLY)...... You are still a joke, an M$ CLOWN.

TheKayle11402d ago

@black ..u can be suprised ....i dont know why but.t.hey r not dropping their low lvl api is called mono...xb1 have one ps4 have another...

nukeitall1402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

@black0o:

Clearly you are trying to mislead and spread FUD!

Of course the Xbox One has low level API. No one in their mind slaps on the world most commonly used graphics API and doesn't take into account performance on something as common as a console.

Low level access is the name of the game for consoles, and has always been. That is how you extract max performance.

This is the stupidest conversation I have seen in a long time!

Mantle is nothing more than a low level access that is shared across ATI chips available. It is just a specific implementation to combat the high level API encapsulating all the nastyness of incompatibility. If you code to Mantle, it is strictly for ATI.

Also your image via the link says nothing about low level API for PS4. In fact, all it really says is OpenGL and DirectX *FEATURE SET* not even *all* the features.

It's just a fancy way of saying we have some features in the latest graphcis API, but make it sound like we got it all!

Don't be fooled by the FUD spreaders!!!

darthv721401d ago

lets just look at it for what it is.

XB1 has 1 way of doing things...the DX way
PS4 has 2 ways...DX and OGL
PC has (at least) 3 ways...DX, OGL and now Mantle

Now was that so hard?

DomceM1401d ago

jokes i never agree with you so this will have to be a first.

this is too funny to pass up.

Fanboys are easy to spot nowadays.

loulou1401d ago

allformats the dupe account of dedicatedtogamers smh

walkincarpet1401d ago

ah...thank you JOY - it's always good to read a few sensible comments amongst the trash. Can't wait for MS to usher in the complete next gen experience with X1!

maniacmayhem1401d ago

These comments are beyond funny. The fact that Jokes provided a link and info and is still being called names or a liar is a true testament to some of these commenters mentality.

And then we all act surprised when we hear news about troll on Toys R Us youtube page or something similar.

It is really mind boggling.

P0werVR1401d ago

^

When I joined the site, I thought these were just common low trolls that most people will ignore and use the "rating system" to oust them out...nope, not on this site. This is troll nation and they thrive here unfortunately.

But the worst of em' I've come across so far are the PS fanboys. They are on a WHOLE other level of trolling and in most cases makes themselves look downright RIDICULOUS!

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heliumhead20301402d ago

It blatantly says that mantle is not in consoles

heliumhead20301402d ago

The title blatantly says EXCLUSIVE TO PC

papashango1402d ago

But the people in the comments section of N4G said..!!

BBBirdistheWord1402d ago

"But the people in the comments section of N4G said..!!

^^
pure win

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FrigidDARKNESS1402d ago

Go and do some research. Dude Mantle is not for ps4.
The API was design with Microsoft to replace Directx on PC games. AMD worked with Microsoft on every version with Mantle. This interview with an AMD engineer explains everything.

www.hardware.fr/focus/89/amd- mantle-interview-raja-koduri.ht ml

black0o1402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

they know about it .. they didnt co-make it nor own any part of it

Letros1402d ago

@Black0o

It's good that you ran out of bubbles because you have no clue what you're talking about.

black0o1402d ago

@allformats it's not problem for xbone it's much bigger problem for MS since the Mantle would effectively replace Microsoft’s Direct X along said valve OS -openGL-

JokesOnYou1402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

lol I see you switched your eurogamer links above, doesn't matter its still on the internet, and guess what according to that same link, it seems AMD's Mantle is NOT here to help Microsoft or Sonys console:

"Considering the boost Mantle could give to a Steambox, MS and Sony may wind up being downright hostile to it."
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...