Eskimo Press:"Earlier this weekend WikiGameGuides posted a video showing people how to use an exploit that could earn people millions within minutes. Now, people are reporting that some players who excessively abused this bug are being banned."
That's a good policy. People like that ruin it for everyone else.
I say fix the dam bug , leave people alone its not there fault . ban them so they can buy another system sham on u ms again. if true. the more ms bans the more I question there sales. ms gets out of hand with there bans. and cut the fanboy stuff out it happens . people for no reason get banned and lose 100s of $ . it has happened to 2 of my friends and ms say they cant help them.
There are 2 sides of the story. People shouldn't abuse a glitch and expect no repercussion, but R* shouldn't have launched an online mode that is so flawed. I don't think that first offenders should get banned, but their money taken away and some kind of warning should be issues
It's Rockstar doing the bans, not Microsoft. According to the article people don't like reading, Rockstar ASKED Microsoft to ban accounts.
So Microsoft is banning accounts under Rockstar's instruction. It is still Microsoft doing the banning. It's just another way of phrasing it. :)
>not their fault >implying they didn't actively try to exploit the bug
@hawtpaws yes not there fault if its there is going to be used if u use it once or 50 times not ur fault , rockstar is at fault for having the bug ,putting out such a flawed online game without proper betas and test. if they don't like people using the bug then patch it the hell up . people should not be banned for this crap.
Seriously banning someone for using an exploit!? And it is R* giving the command? It is a f*ing game. Just reset their fake money balance. No warning just don't allow this to happen anymore. And seriously I bought a game from a company that suddenly turned into more of a dark being than EA? Rockstar: this is my last Rockstar developed game I will ever purchase. Because you are banning consoles over an exploit I will no longer trust you as a developer. Your actions and resolve are atrocious. You and EA should get a room already. Microsoft: Why don't you just come out and say that DRM is your future goal to accomplish with your new box in a later update already. Sol ye mass nagas dias.
"And seriously I bought a game from a company that suddenly turned into more of a dark being than EA?" -con-sept talk about being over dramatic. its not that serious. unless you're a glitcher, who cares
"Well its ok to cheat because the online is broken." LMAO, seriously guys? Its like saying "I robbed the bank because the security wasnt working......so its ok". It doesnt work that way, its wrong no matter what you say. Im glad they got banned, just play the game proper and enjoy it.
It isn't their fault??? Are you kidding me? Is this what our society has come to? Just because the capability exists to do something that is CLEARLY wrong, that makes it totally OK to do it?? So if I reach over the counter at a jewelry store and swipe some stuff out of the display case, that is not my fault? They should have had that case locked in the back, right? It's THEIR fault that they didn't protect it better, yes? I can hardly believe the idiocy I'm reading.
it's a glitch, not a hack. They should just label these exploiters. How many people are going to exploit a glitch if it gave them a big red target over there name that every player in the current lobby was aiming for? No, instead Micro will just ban you and force you to buy a new system. Evil fucking geniuses.
i'm ms fanboy but everyone who says they were banned for no reason is full of it. they are enough consumer protection laws around the world that no matter how big the company was they wouldn't be able to get a away with it
I've never been so "into" a game, and then so "not into" a game like I was/ am with GTA 5. I played that single player non-stop for like 4-5 days until I beat the game, and I enjoyed the first 3 days of online. I'm literally sick of GTA5. It's already kind of old, not as fun as I thought/hoped, and just doesn't leave that lasting impression or feeling. Only reason I haven't traded it in yet is because it's fun fora few laughs with friends every now and then and also there aren't too many open world games. The city is beautiful, but for every 3 cool ideas they had, they had 1 really bad idea that was like " wait what? really! "
Yeh i feel the same but i havent even bothered trying online i didnt with gta 4 either, the story was great i loved the game it was a good 4 days but i think i will trade it in towards a ps4 game i have 4 paid for already but why not have 5 if i can lol.
WHAT A DOUCHE MOVE! the could just take away the glitched money or delete the characters so that the players need to start from scratch but NO, they deserve console ban for playing such a broken game to begin with! good job R* and M$! /s
"People like that ruin it for everyone else." Whether people make their money through exploits or make their money through microtransactions, it makes no difference. R* should be blamed if it ruins the game.
Unless their guns deal more damage than yours they don't effect any1 else at all just by being rich. I've had far more trouble and annoyance from griefers than glitchers.
I agree. It's a good policy. So was this exploit only done on the 360?
This is why they should have had a PUBLIC beta before launch. Microsoft banning again? No surprise. They are ban-happy.
They should ban users for cheating/ruining the online experience for legit players
I think a ban is a little over-kill. Maybe just delete the characters and let them start fresh. There are a lot of bugs in GTA Online, this kind of thing was expected.
How does this ruin the online experience of other players? They have more money than you which doesn't directly impact game play for other players at all.
If you play a game and exploit something that was never intended by the programmer its a glitch. Glitches ruin the experience for everyone else trying to play the game legitimately. So they, meaning R, had MS ban the exploiters...good for them..enjoy the banstick. This is one of the best features of XBox live, ban those who cheat and glitch for personal gain and ruin it for those who wish to do it the correct way....guess they should have read the ToS before cheating...the addage of cheaters never prosper works well!!
it's R* enforcing the bans through the lettering of the Ts&Cs everyone agreed to using xbox live... hell R* were doing the same for people releasing early playthrough videos... MS can hardly say to the devs "naw it'll look bad on us we'll just ignore your request"
Sheeple have short memories here http://www.ign.com/articles... Sony also bans people http://www.vg247.com/2013/0... But then again this is N4G, don't expect anything less with the Sony fans here.
If it's in the ToS which I'm almost sure it is, that you're supposed to read before accepting, you can hardly blame Microsoft for enforcing their rules. @Palaven, Probably because Sony haven't really cared about their online portion until this generation, as far as I'm aware, they did nothing to change the face of online gaming, unlike Microsoft, with their continued support of party chat and multiple under the hood tweaks, not to mention their constant banning of cheaters. Hopefully Sony start taking online more serious this generation.
Party Chat is a hardware limitation it has nothing to do with the online service
MS also changed the face of online gaming by charging for it. lol, you sound way too happy to be ripped off HolyDuck. I am not going to have a hard time because I have been a Plus member since the beginning and was always planning on having a subscription before it being mandatory for online play. See, with Plus, you actually get value for your money, and not just the ability to use the other half of your consoles features.
Yes. When games like WoW and Runescape have been charging to use characters, MS charged you for a whole service, and paying obviously made it better. You're going to have a hard time this gen because you'll have to pay as well, unless you feel like sticking to all your Free to play games. As for the hardware limitation, what a shame, maybe Sony should of thought about that, thought that Cell was the most powerful thing ever? haha
Your just a pr tool anyway why would anyone take u seriously ? Sony has a just fine reporting system
@holyduck. It is fake money we are talking about here. Not a game breaking glitch like shooting through walls and walking underneath the map. This is just play money which affects NOTHING when it comes to competitive play.
@HoleDuck Sony have a lot more responsibility to punish cheaters now that they charge for PSN, at least I hope so. If not, then they have lost sales from me for the PS4 exclusives.
Why shouldn't they ban people who are ruining the game for everyone else? Its funny how people on N4G are defending exploiters just to disagree with Microsoft. I join TLoU multiplayer games everyday with people making themselves invincible, with an exploit which should have been patched by now, unless you shiv them. Why isn't Sony banning them? Microsoft would have.
Considering people have lost their characters online,I would honestly defend them. The prices of things like cars and houses are so much considering missions barely give you much money. R* definitely trying to enforce micro-transactions. It's very time consuming to get back the amount of stuff your character had and considering this problem is R*, players should really not be punished for something like this. Patch it and move along.
Why is it this is the first I have herd of this? I have played the last of us almost right through both sides and have not come into one instance of this! Any reputable proof?
There should be a downvote for ppl just out right lying like palaven has done.
I am speaking from my own experience. I have been playing TLoU since it released, I love it, why would I lie? The exploiters are ruining my experience and Sony are doing nothing to ban them. You believe what you like, I don't have to prove anything to you. Search on Google, you will find all the proof that you need. You will also find reports of invincible players on GoW multiplayer, its FACT Sony are doing nothing to punish exploiters. I hope it is different with the PS4. I say something negative about a PS3 exclusive and I am automatically lying? Typical Sony fanboy mentality.
Serious question for you. Explain to me how someone exploiting to get 3 million if different to someone just paying R* for the 3 million?
Answer this. Explain to me why stealing a lexus is different then just paying the dealership fro it?
When Doesn't Microsoft Ban people??
Why shouldn't they ban people? They aren't banning regular players. Ban cheaters and hacks. That's part of the appeal to console play vs on the pc. Sorry if anyone has hurt feelings over it, well no actually Im not. I applaud punishing these jerks.
The way you're talking it's like these people have God mode on and are griefing every player in the lobby. Some people have more money than others because of a glitch that's been patched. A ban is a little harsh for that.
God mode, extra life, more money, w/e I don't care what the lame excuse is to get an edge or just being lazy. Go go super ban hammer! There's also a good life lesson here for the kids. You can cheat to get ahead, but eventually you will get caught and get penalized.
How is using glitches to gain more in game currency any different than using microtransactions for the same effect? R* has built these 'cheats' and 'hacks' into their game, the bans have nothing to do with players having an unfair advantage and everything to do with R* and M$ wanting their money.
"When Doesn't Microsoft Ban people??" When people play fair.
like the people who got GTA V early and legit?
Both hackers and exploiters are scum in the gaming community they should be punished. Condoning this behavior only promotes it.
Do shitty programmers fall under that category for making it possible and enticing by have such an extreme issue as character deletion?
As long as it's not excessive as a console ban/full account ban then I think it's feel.
I got my character deleted/ erased at level 20's. My condo, cars, money all gone. So I went rogue by exploiting easy money glitch. Feels good man.
The money glitch it is great because it is painfully hard to make money and everything is so expensive, there is not much difference between glitching and buying GTA$ (GTA currency that can be bought with real money I mean).
20 minutes on a mission, make 2,000. Die at the hand of some griefing troll one second later, lose 5,000 in medical expenses. The game is just too imbalanced at this time. I don't really blame people for using exploits, as pathetic as that sounds.
@FILTHY ESKIMO The game is unbalanced because rockstar wants you to buy their currency or spend 50 hr saving for a decent apartment and a decent car.
or perhaps they want you to continue to play and EARN your worth. How fun would it be if you owned everything in the city within the first month of online play?!
You can really tell that they were hoping for the micro transactions to be everyone's best option in getting gta cash.
1993 - Hey, there's an infinite money glitch in this game, now I can afford all that stuff that it would've taken me days to get! 2013 - Hey, there's an infinite money glitch in this game, I hope I don't get banned from my console because of using it to get all that stuff it would've taken me months to get! 2033 - Hey, there's an infinite money glitch in this game, but if I use it I face a $500 fine for manipulating game mechanics for excessive virtual currency! 2053 - Meteor kills mankind, no more glitches.
Wouldn't surprise me if those events came to pass. Even the meteor. :)
anyone complaining about this are the exploiters. Play the game legit, it is not fair for people who actually are earning money the right way, and doing everything how it is supposed to be done. XBL has never allowed cheaters, hackers period why would you want some people playing with you that have a heads up on you anyway?
Yeah, well when you lose your character, you would understand. Jobs in GTA Online pay nothing compared to what stuff costs in that game. So to get back your stuff legit is really timing consuming and its not even the players fault, its Rockstars.
Ah the old justification for stealing. It's just easier than working for it. You could go rob a bank or get a job and work for the money. So many choices, what's a fella to do?
The difference is this is a game and this exploit doesn't effect anyone else. It doesn't even give you RP, it just gives you money which people use to buy vehicles and houses. How does that ruin someone else's gameplay? It doesn't give you God mode or some shit. People against this exploit obviously never lost their character(s).
@Jeffgoldwin it is not fair to compare real life with a videogame dude, I mean in that case glitching is justified because the morals of the game permit it (the game is about a bunch of thugs planning bank heists).
You just can't be lazy, the jobs pay fine. I haven't cheated at all, and I have a nice apt, car, and weapons, all with mods. People just don't want to put the time in to get those things. They want the best stuff day one, and I'm glad they are banning people for using a glitch, lazy assholes!
I'm so tired of losing the character argument. That happened for like the first 1-2 weeks and doesn't happen anymore. How much money did you really lose in 1-2 weeks, I bet a fraction compared to what you cheated to get. It hurts other people. You go into a team deathmatch against someone with full modded guns/vests/full ammo, etc, that other players don't have yet because they haven't saved enough money. Also, R* is giving everyone who played online during October a "Stimulus Package", aka a free $500,000 dollars due to their issues. That sounds more then fair to me. Stop cheating and play like a grown up. http://www.rockstargames.co...
Try earning money the right way 4+ times and repeat your progress. I'm sure you won't sing the same tune.
The only ppl that should be punished are the devs/bug testers that missed the glitch
???? Name one game that doesn't have some sort of problem at launch? When you make a game this size, there are bugs. Skyrim, Fallout, GTA, Borderlands, all had glitches and exploits, and that's just the few off the top of my head. You are on super crack if you expect these games to hit the shelf flawlessly.
Off the dome Metal Gear Solid 4 (excluding the online), and Batman Arkham Asylum.