"Beyond: Two Souls is bad at telling stories."
It does not deserve a 2 but everyone has different tastes so I gotta respect that, I'm really enjoying this game.
if you haven't finished it then of course you wouldn't think it deserves a 2. give it time, you'll see the light.
I haven't played this game yet, but there are websites that are actually known, as opposed to websites like this which are unknown, which have given this game really great scores. Edit: I did a bit of digging, and this website gave The Last of Us a 3/5. These guys must be struggling for hits. Edit #2: They also gave God of War: Ascension a 3/5
In fact, here's a real review for Beyond Two Souls: http://tv.revision3.com/rev...
You could say that known sites have given the game not so great scores as well. http://www.metacritic.com/g...
^^^ True, but you have to scroll down through the first 43 good reviews to get to the poor reviews.
I found the story brilliant. The game had me emotionally attached and when Ryan and Cole got hurt cuz I screwed up in my game I was so torn up that I went back and played the stages over to get a good ending. Yes the game has almost no real gameplay which hurts it along with most choices either not mattering or affecting the story the way it did in heavy rain but nonethless this game had a very good story which is something u cant say for some movies.
@crxss No sir, I've bought and finished the game and I can easily say that it is not a 2/5 game. It is a great experience and one I will play through on more than one occasion. 5/5 for me, I loved every minute of it. But you are entitled to your opinion, I just hope you are speaking from experience and not blind fanboyism.
crxss did you even play the game? this game is easily an 8 if not 9/10 but right now its cool to hate on B2S because so many others are doing it, don't cry when all we get are sequels because when someone tries something new we shoot it down and never let it get a fair chance
I love how the possibility that the game is just bad, is not even an option for some of you. It gets a bad review = He did not "get" the game. It gets a good review = Nice review! This game is a 7/10 at metacritic for a reason. No David Cage game did extremely well on meta and saleswise so far. Sony fans love to overhype his games though.
@dirty Now you're talkin #*%x. No david cage game did well on metacritic?! Heavy rain did a fantastic 87/100 with over a hundred reviews. It also sold a few million and won a couple prestigious awards along the way like from bafta. I love how the possibility that he's had success is not even an option for you
yes everyone I've played it and have beaten it, multiple times. story is mediocre @ best. for a game all about choices they have very little to no effect on the game. choices you make have zero impact in future dialogue or gameplay on other levels and and only effect that specific level you're on (ending it early, in the middle, or finishing it) and the ending (whether you see someone alive or dead). The chapters are also a huge mess, one chapter you're hating Ryan and the next you're madly in love with him and can't wait for your date. Jodie's not the only bipolar character either, Aiden can go from being really cool to crazy jealous. The game goes all over the place. If you guys really think this game is good I feel sorry for you. Or you have really low standards in which case I'm envious because everything must be good to you. Go play tlou, bioshock infinite, or gta v if you're interested in seeing what a good game looks like. Giving it a 2 might be harsh but it deserves no more than a 3
Don't feel sorry for me, I'm enjoying myself with all the games that I find fun. That includes Beyond and alot of other games.
To each their own. Just beat the game and I could not think of a better game for what is probably my last ps3 game I'll ever play. I loved the story and the graphics were mind blowing. The facial animations is what LA Noir thought they had but in reality fell short. Willhem did great as did the main protagonist. Great plot twists and a satisfying ending. What more can you want unless is more pew pew pew? Navajo was hands down my favorite level. What a masterpiece.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the story telling in this game.
I think the story telling could have been handled a lot better. The way the narrative is told is what kind of kills the immersion of it. However just finished it and I honestly loved how it ended. Something about it was beautifully done. It's weird because I really bonded with Jodie and specially Aiden. The presentation of the game is truly amazing. I honestly can't wait to see what Quantic Dream brings to the ps4.
yup nothing wrong with 3 minutes of pressing circle to take a smoke of weed.
You even feel peer pressure in a video game?
This is a interactive movie , stuff like that should be $9.99
Most movies are $19.99 or more, so how would adding interactivity, increasing the length by 5x, and adding a branching story-line with multiple endings somehow lower the value? I could have understood your point better if you were arguing for around $40. But $10 is ridiculous, that's just being cheap.
Maybe if it was only 1 or 2 hours long.. Beyond is alot longer then that.
So is CoD, that sells for $60.
If the story wasn't jumbled then it would have an ever SLOWER beginning then heavy rain did (witch reviews heavily marked it as a flaw) I mean what? you wanna play as kid Jodie for 2 hours straight?
Exactly! I actually dont like playing as kid Jodie at all but I can deal with it in small doses.
rabble rabble rabble rabble When a QD game is praised for its story I can only wonder how many and what kind of books the reviewer has read in their lifetime. When a QD game is bashed for its story I recognize the reviewer as the intelligent person they must be.
You must live a terribly lonely life. I truly feel sorry for you. #hermit #emptycan
^^ Says the one who uses hashtags in their comments.
To some of us, lonely isn't a terrible thing. I happen to be asexual and not too friendly, obviously, and I can only say that the freedom from all of those social issues that affect the rest of you has been incredibly rewarding for me. So don't feel sorry for me, heck, I feel sorry for you. Especially with those hash tag insults lol.
There are many different types if good story. A movie or game doesn't need to be on the level of books to have a good story. They are different mediums with different strengths and weaknesses.
interactivity is an aspect of the game's story that can't be replicated neither by a book or film. So even with all its cliches and awkward writing Quantic Dream games are an unique experience that could be considered by many to have good stories. An important thing that might make a book a fun read or not is your imagination you know. Having perfect writing doesn't make a story be an enjoyable one if it's boring. Reviews in general are nothing but opinions. What you consider a good book is nothing but an opinion. Art in general can't be measured like you can do in math. Many people consider this crap to be art: http://upload.wikimedia.org... Many are bandwagoners though.
Dude thats cold, i read plenty of books and so far the story has me hooked, i can understand that you dont like the game but to insult other people based off you're experiance is very childish. Its an interactive story just like heavy rain was, just with a diffrent feel and settings, if you really are someone that can sit and get into a good book then i dont understand how you cant give the game a fair shot. You can be critical of something without being insulting, i think as good as the story is so far, the gameplay still takes a back seat, do i think its worth the money though? Yes because it is an experiance that i dont want to miss.
Cage simply cannot write, imo. His writing is on the level of a sci-fi channel screenplay, except it has mistaken that placement for an art installation at MOMA. Someone mentioned pulp below. No problems there, I love pulp. But pulp, "literature", screenplays of any genre, etc, can all be great. The category is meaningless to me, but the quality isn't. Hence, a story written about a civil war veteran whisked away to Mars to battle aliens using spears and what have you can be as stupid as you like, but if it is written well I have no problem with it. Cage has no concept of pacing, no concept of character that isn't tragically opportunistic, has no flare with dialog, and fails to properly build tension. IMO, of course. Of course, you're all free to hate because I say the same thing about Kojima too.
I dont "hate" and can respect you're opinion, if you had of worded your comment the same way the first time i probably wouldnt have jumped at you so sorry about that, didnt mean to come of as someone that hates for no reason, just out of interest, who are some of the writers you like?.
So you feel qualified to devalue certain works of literature based on your own preference? A pulp is of no less intrinsic value that a classic, to the individual. By all means, dissect and discuss whatever works of literature you like, but a little humility wouldn't kill you.
being asexual is the new hipster/indie thing. Its like Glutten free. People are starting to claim left and right that they are. Also # is #f*[email protected]
The same can be said for reviewers for praising COD for its story and giving the game a rating of 3 and above. Which is a lot them.
Review get's a low score, review is wrong... Smh, it's his/her's own opinion.
I think everyone knows that by now. I mean, the 'personal opinion' mantra has been chucked about for forever now. Not that it's wrong, it's just so bloody obvious that anyone who doesn't get it by now won't ever. For what it's worth though reviews can be right or wrong to each individual, that's why they are in the public domain. For me, this review is 'wrong' because I loved B2S. But I respect it nonetheless.
I don't understand how the game is bad at telling stories. I think Quantic Dream wrapped up the narrative really well at the end and explained their characters' motives in thorough detail. During the game, I wondered why they didn't have it in a linear fashion but I loved how they picked up the pieces here and there to keep you guessing as to what Jodie did to get her in this mess? I also found the characters' emotions really moving especially during the Homeless level. I felt scared, sad and I actually cried during certain moments. When this reviewer mentions how Beyond's levels are like other games, I really disagree. The gameplay is completely different. Uncharted and Red Dead Redemption are third person shooters. Metal Gear Solid 4 as well is played completely different. I see that the locales are similar but overall, this game is meant to be a narrative driven game with quick time events. As far as I know, you do not try to find clues in Red Dead Redemption to solve what is happening in the narrative. There are parts of the game I do not like, however, such as the frustrating control scheme, the freezing of scenes during auto-saving and the fewer choices to make in comparison to Heavy Rain.
I respect opinions. It's great that everyone has something to offer and give different perspectives when it comes to games but when there is a great deal of unfairness, I just get disappointed. I have played the demo and guess what ? It's great in my opinion. I thought that David Cage and his team delivered a masterpiece which is so unique and creative. Ellen Page's performance alone gives the game a great appeal. I don't think anyone can dispute the fact that the graphs are insanely great for a PS 3 game. I get that gameplay do not please everyone because majority of games do not force you like that. At the end of the day, there is nothing like Beyond Two Souls out there and I applaud Sony for making efforts to bring games like this to the market because I don't understand how can you rank COD + 80s or even 90s every year when it all does is incremental adjustments to original formula. Even though it doesn't mean they are not good games you can't just reason giving them those scores and totally dissing creative attempts like beyond 2 souls...
David Cage, the worlds greatest average writer.
..Sorry you probably prefer Peter Molyneux, right?
Wolf Among Us is out and is cheaper and tells a far more interesting story in a far more interesting universe.
The story was like a good thriller movie. For me, it is not one of those movies I can watch over and over again. I liked the layout of the scenes although sometimes it got a little confusing as to where exactly I was on the timeline. The actual gameplay was extremely limited. My favorite gameplay moments were the fighting or evading scenes. I wanted more of that type of gameplay. Too much of the game felt like a point and click adventure. With that said, if I were to reviewing this game, I would give it 4 stars out of 5 (I don't like number scales). The story was good , the gameplay was good (I enjoyed the Aiden gameplay the most), the graphics were amazing (it's like playing a CGI movie), the voice acting was incredible, the soundtrack was awesome, replayability is moderately high (not for me but most people should find it so). So that's how I got to give it a 4 out of 5.
Of all the things to bash, you want to bash it by saying it can't tell stories? Yeah, someone's digging for hits.....
Exactly, if the style of play isn't his thing thats fine, I can totally see that for some(personally I love it)but to say something like "Beyond: Two Souls is bad at telling stories." then you are simply fishing for hits, NOTHING more. I hate sites that attempt to do the "Hipster" thing and bash the popular games.
No, Beyond: Two Souls is actually quite good at telling stories, you on the other hand are nothing more than a mouth breathing, fps/cod/xblive, lowest common denominator moron. Grats dude, you're officially become part of the problem.
I enjoyed the hell out of this game. It's true there isn't much gameplay but I had a great time in the little there was.
i give you back 2/10 errornotfound and that's My opinion!you are an error!
in all fairness the one thing most of the bad reviews have in common is they all seem to spend more time than they should discussing David Cage & how they find him pretentious - Which in itself is a good indication of how the review score will turn out. a lot of gamers are a fickle bunch, they don't like people trying to portray ideas in their games.
"Beyond two souls is badat telling stories" Clearly stated by someone who has never watched a movie or read a book with this type of story structure before and cannot compared information given to them. Anyone who knows Ellen Page might have heard of a movie called the "Tracy Fragments" it's set up the same exact way and is an amazing movie. It's not about the Hero's journey but rather how the events in their life would led up to the end moment. To all bashing the game for the story.... Learn some about different ways stories are told.
Ok, here I go again... I'm kind of getting tired of these opinion pieces being passed off as journalistic reviews. How is his obtuse opinion relevant to the factual analysis and informative aspect of a review? Yea we know some people like one thing while others don't, that's what it is to be individualistic. Again, a review is a process to which a "skilled" journalist is to base a score on fact through an objective assessment based on a set of criteria in order to inform an audience on what they WILL perceive, rather than what they MIGHT perceive in order to inform the audience whether they want to make an immediate purchase, wait, rent, or pass. In perspective, I played Heavy Rain over this past summer for the first time and my personal opinion was the game didn't flow particularly well with my preferences in a game. Factually the controls were clunky, the voice overs had a muffled sound to them, and overall the game didn't really entertain me as it did many others. I could've given the game a low score based on my opinion. If I were reviewing the game I'd have recognized that yes movement in the game could have benefited from higher control fidelity that most games implement. However, visually the game, upon its release, was pretty spectacular. For the most part (not always) the acting was pretty solid. It's a game trying to blur the lines between cinema and digital interactivity through experimentation and innovation. I could go on, but the bottom line is this, the review score would not be the same as my score would have been based on my opinion. Opinion has a place in a review for comparison, context, and perspective, but in no way should those elements affect the review score because everyone will NOT encounter the same "personal" issues with the game. It should be there as a means to give context for those with similar opinions to understand the game may not be for them, but those with differing opinions pay these rants no mind. If a game controls bad, it controls bad, everyone will encounter it. Some may be able to adapt faster than others but the fact is there will be a slight struggle a player will have to overcome. That is a critique based on fact since we all will encounter this regardless of personal bias or preference. I've only played a little of Beyond, but my god what an improvement it is from Heavy Rain visually, audibly, and control wise. There is no way, regardless how someone subjectively feels about the story, this game is a 40% or a 2/5. That is ludicrous and a disgrace to the skill involved in the journalistic review process.
It's funny how these no name sites started popping out like mushrooms then giving a game like this a bad review then disappears like they never existed.
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