Rapper Daz Dillinger has sent Rockstar a cease and desist letter, after accusing the developer of using his music in Grand Theft Auto V without paying him.
...yeah, good luck with that.
Title should be changed to "unknown rapper wants his 5 minutes of fame"
song belongs to Kurupt anyway :/ though it is produced by daz :X
@grizz, True, then Kurupt should just give him a % and not R*. I would hate that an update would take them classic tracks off the game.
title should be changed to "unknown rapper wants his $5 from royalty"
@xHeavYx unknown rapper? Lol you probably listen to country music for saying that. And to people talking about updates/patch - you can't patch something physical offline.
@Blaze You fail so hard every time you get defensive that it makes me feel sad for you. Next time, before opening your mouth, take a quick look at the picture next to my usrname, or at least take a quick look at my profile
True Blaze, anyone who doesn't know a non-mainstream rapper must listen to like Jimmy Buffett or Enya, LOL. /s Musical snobbery is just plain obnoxious.
Just because YOU don't know him doesn't make him "unknown". He was practically as popular as Snoop Dogg himself back in the mid-nineties up to even 2004 or so. You calling him unknown is ridiculous whether you listen to rap or not. Your Guns and Roses avatar&banner don't help your case. It's an ignorant statement. He's one of the most recognizable rappers out there. https://www.google.com/sear... 3:10 http://www.youtube.com/watc...
He's very well known, and he's had his time in the spotlight, much more than 5 minutes. It was just a long time ago, so he got his coffee cup out, looking for change.
He's everything else than unknown. But he should have taken the money R* offered him - it's more than enough for these old tracks. He should be honored that R* has immortalized his music in the probably biggest game up to date.
Yeah, no. Daz Dillinger doesn't need 5 minutes of fame, he's already had 20 years of fame as a prominent member of several West-Coast hip-hop crews..Maybe YOU never heard of him, but given your Gn'R avatar, I'm guessing you don't listen to hip hop. Daz Dillinger and everyone else from The Dogg Pound are pretty well known to hip hop fans. Also, I'm unclear as to why Dillinger is upset? He should be collecting royalties from 2 decades of producing and guest starring on tracks. Rockstar offered him $4,200 for the two tracks, which tells me they were trying to purchase the mechanical rights to the songs (when anyone buys "mechanical rights" of a song, they are buying the right to use that song however they want, without having to pay a royalty fee per play)
$4000 for 2 Daz songs actually really is an insultingly low amount, add to the fact that this game has made over a billion dollars and they went behind his back and used his songs anyway just makes it worse. Obviously the game isn't gonna get pulled from shelves but some higher amount is going to pass hands whether through court or settlement. R* can't "win" a case against stealing the use of someones music, point blank. He said no and they did it anyway, wtf is that?
He's unknown. Unknown by me. And probably a majority of GTA V players. I wouldn't expect many people to know Caspian, Russian Circles, This Will Destroy You, or other fairly prominent Post-Rock outfits. But you'd be laughed at to listen to that vein of music and not know them. So I see nothing wrong with using "unknown" to describe an artist that is pretty much literally unknown by most of the non-hip-hop/rap listening crowd.
Lol when I seen his name I was like wtf is that
Unkown? Lmao. He produced hits like Ambitionz az a Ridah, Got My Mind Made Up and 2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted. He produced alot more famous beats AND he rapped in DPG aka The Dogg Pound alongside Kurrupt. Just 'cause you don't know him, doesn't automatically make him unkown to the general public. Edit: or rather the general rap crowd*
Just because some of you don't know him doesn't mean he's unknown, I doubt most of you even listen to rap music.He's very known in the rap game and his complaint is just,depending on the royalties he has with the songs.But apparently from that low ball offer from R* he doesn't really have any producers royalties with the songs.A couple of the songs on GTA V are royalty free songs.
@schlanz That was the most retarded post I've read today.
Some thug after gibs me dat lotto. I turn off as much of the rap/rnb rubbish as possible
You never heard of Tha Dogg Pound or DeathRow Records? Daz was a decent rapper and a really good producer. He has produced songs for Snoop Dogg, Tupac, Too Short, and a whole host of other rappers. If you turn on the West Coast Classics station on GTA you will here a few songs produced by Daz. If they were to use my songs or songs I produced I would want to get paid too. Here's some advice that might help some of these idiots on here call Daz a nobody. Before dissing a person you never heard of use a tool called Google, it is really helpful.
Listen to Daz's R.A.W album. One of my favorite rap albums. His work with Snoop & DPG aka Tha Dogg Pound is pure gold! He deserves way more than a couple G's for his music.
"unknown rapper wants his 5 minutes of fame" Wow, that was a super fail comment if I ever saw one. Daz is unknown? Wants 5 minutes of fame...I should explain how wrong you are but it seems others have greatly beat me to it and explained the history of it all. And you like Guns N Roses too who were big NWA fans but yet you don't know the Dogg Pound? Also there was a parody of the Dogg Pound in GTA San Andreas if you ever played that game.
Hey, the Dog Pound were huge in the nineties.
Daz made tracks with 2pac, Kurupt, Snoop, and Nate Dogg.
I had to lol as this thread descended into music debates over the story at hand. While I've never heard of him, the amount is obscenely low--I hope he gets paid a little more than that from the billion+ take!
daz is far from an unknown rapper...
Daz Is not unknown but at this point is a has been....He might want to work something out as EA might just patch out his songs and call it a day.
that's a retarded thing to say,bottom line is rockstar stole his songs, he should be paid no matter what
This guy sure is an idiot, I've never even heard of this guy before the game. Not that I'll listen to his music, but he's getting free advertising regardless of whether Rockstar had paid him or not.
Unknown Rapper. You f-ckin' moron anyone that listens to hip hop knows who Daz and Kurupt are. Go back to listening to that bullshit you call music
@schlanz I listen to post-rock as well as other genres usually loosely-associated with it, like shoegaze, post-punk, dreampop, etc. and I've NEVER heard of any of those bands you just listed. Pretty bad analogy, dude.
@naroon You kind of proved my point then, as you must be just a fringe listener to the genre to have not heard of those bands. (But I'm sure you know Explosions in the Sky, Godspeed You, Sigur Ros, and Mogwai) Just like a casual listener of hip-hop might not know who Daz is. Sure the guy might not be a nobody, but in the mainstream context he is. Outside of people who listen to a lot of hip-hop, it's not a stretch of the imagination to believe he hasn't been heard of, or at least forgotten if he was known at a time now past.
I'm keeping my copy... screw him.... its MINE!!
A dick move by a nobody "rapper". Move along dude
He's not a nobody. Far from it.
How is this a dick move by him? Rockstar stole his music and put it in their game after he said no, if what he says is true of course. And if it I hope rockstar pays,it's not right.
he's more famous than you oooooooh
muh dick lotto init
Well I'm pretty sure he just want more money for the beats that was used in the game without his permission. Obviously R* isn't going to recall their game. Even if the issue a patch to remove the beat it was still used without the owner's permission. Obviously the guy want more than 4k for a game that has already made over one billion.
Exactly, R* should've paid royalties for every track in the game, he has every right get money for music he produced.
Yup.I'm betting they will pay him an undisclosed amount.All the people here defending R* because you don't want to give your game back, but imagine you hear a song you produced and had a heavy influence in creating in a video game that made a billion dollars, and you didn't receive a penny.He knows they wont recall the games.
@DMarc... "...had a heavy influence in creating in a video game that made a billion dollars" I don't effin think so fella....Not even remotely accurate by any stretch of the imagination. That guy's "Music" had NOTHING to do with any of the creation of the game nor did it influence anyone to purchase the title.
reading comprehension isn't you strong suite huh? Try re-reading what I typed, then re-reply to me.
To be fair his songs probably aren't worth much more. Firstly he's not exactly a blockbuster but more importantly he doesn't actually do anything. OMG he speaks words and can put a synth to a beat. Maybe when Rap actually manages to generate some musically interesting design it will be considered worth more than a few bucks, but to this day it's just as it started. Empty uninspired sound design that could have been put together by a 10 year old with a guy talking.
that it round em up! all (how many millions guys? ._.) *beep beep beep* but seriously its ridiculous, besides asking for the money he's owed he'll only create shortage's for a game (if successful, probably not) which still has high demand, only causing the game to be more unique :p
Cant R* just patch the song out with an update? Also this is as silly as the Cypress Hill guy suing R* becuase a character in San Andress looked like him -_-
WTF...why would Rockstar do that to some small time rapper when they paid much bigger rappers for their music? o_0
he not smaalll time he old school dogg pound snoop dagg crew
I feel like I can trust you, because you type pretty gangster.
those songs are by kurupt he featured in it
Think you will find those songs are owned by Daz with him being the producer an all. Those beats are owned by him and Kurupt featured on his tracks.
Dummy, it doesn't matter who rapped in the song, the royalties go to the producer and anyone with rights to the publishing. Learn something about the industry first. ARTIST DONT GET SH*T. They were paid upfront. Once that song gets played in the future ASCAP and BMI send them a royalty check. It's like owning an IP. Erick Srmon had to pay Marvin Gaye's wife 250K for a sample in the song "MUSIC." How many people have remade ALL ALONG THE WATCHTOWER? Bob Dylan still gets paid for that song even if the Jimi Hendrix version plays on the radio
He wants the unsold copies completely recalled? Has this guy never heard of a patch?
guess not. its a simple fix. remove 2 songs. dont think anyone gonna miss it. heard them...nothing grand.
I will miss them. In fact, both are amongst my favourite tracks ingame. But that's more saying about GTA5's radio than about these 2 tracks ...I found the GTA4 radio better overall. Only East Los FM makes me smile everytime.
craptacular even, in my opinion. Wouldn't miss them in the least.
You can't patch already printed copies of a game. There will be copies out there that never touch the internet to receive a title update so patching isn't a legal option.
Patch doesnt work on offline consoles. Plus erasing it after the fact is not a legal option.
Well then they can take your 'music' out of the game, and then even less people will know who you are.
Or Rockstar could just pay him like they should have done.
Rockstar paid sony music and columbia ... If you look at the credits of the game , it's painfully obvious how they got "premission". Move along guys...rockstar did nothing wrong here.
Columbia and Sony DONT OWN THE PRODUCTION RIGHTS OR PUBLISHING!!! They are distributors you idiot. Learn about the music business first. Daz owns his music. Doesn't matter what umbrella company he was under. OWN YOUR MASTERS. Funny watching you morons comment about shit you know nothing about
Rockstar better pony up and pay the artist for his music. They have the money first of all and they should respect other peoples work.
It's not his music or song, he only featured in a couple of the songs. He has no right to them, and therefore didn't get paid.
He has no right to them? Says who? You? Every Artist who participates in a song always gets money from it, either fully paid at the time of recording or by royalties or both. Not being the Main artist doesn't mean squat either. People should stop pulling stuff out of their ASS. Your whole sentence all came from stuff you ASSUME is true meanwhile the artist getting paid for his work is industry standard. It's a shame people are actually ok with this being done just because rich-ass rockstar games is doing it.
I think you will find those songs are owned by Daz with him being the producer an all. Those beats are owned by him and Kurupt featured on his tracks. Kurupt was paid a wage by his record label. He doesn't own any of those tracks.
Er you are doing the same assuming Rockstar didnt pay . If anything it's more likely Rockstar paid the alleged owners of the song without any particular knowledge of some right issues . They did offer him something, he refused... they'll have to negotiate or maybe will have to emove the song .
If it wasn't his music or his song. And he was owed no royalties. Why did R* initially offer to pay him for them, and them use them when we refused their offer?
The chronology isnt told there . Nothing indicate yet they knew , tried to pay him , and still forced the use of the song . If anything it all points to them trying to make a deal afterward