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PS4 GPU Makes It The Most Powerful Console In The World, Makes Responsive 60FPS Possible:Witch Beam

"We recently had a chance to speak to Witch Beam designer Sanatana Mishra, currently working on Assault Android Cactus for the PlayStation 4." (Assault Android Cactus, PS4)

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Lovable  +   348d ago
All I care about is that FF 14 is 60 fps +1080 p. Dayumm!!! Early Christmas present and it soooo goood!!!
cleft5  +   348d ago
Keep the great news coming Sony. PS4 will be mine soon.
Mad Aizen  +   348d ago
It's amazing that PS4 is already this good w/ the PS3 going as strong as it is and GT6 has yet to drop. Sony has something really, really special on there hands here w/ these two beasts. Personally I can't keep up - I'm so broke! :P
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MWong  +   348d ago
You forgot that Beyond 2 Souls is about to drop also. That game might give TLOU a run for it's money. I really can't wait to see what Sony's 1st Party Studios can do with the PS4.

It's always great news when a 3rd party publisher let alone a great Indie studio gives you praise.
Pogmathoin  +   348d ago
Reading this in toilet... oh yes... everything this guy says is so true, clearly because its about my beloved PS4.... ohh sweet.... oh noo...
mewhy32  +   348d ago
No one can deny that the PS4 if the most powerful console ever conceived. Cant wait to get mine.
sonarus  +   348d ago
@Mwong i will agree with you that TLOU was great but personally i am not a big fan of all these choose your own adventure type games like heavy rain. I simply lack the patience. Last of us started slow i bought it and launch and honestly stopped playing like 2 hrs in thats how impatient i am. It wasnt until a friend essentially forced me to play it that i finally finished the rest of the game in about 3 days. This was only about a month ago and i will say definitely one of the best PS3 games I have played and is up there for me with MGS4 as a game that blew my expectations away.

I don't see anyway i could have enough patience to enjoy beyond souls regardless how good the game looks and i am a graphics whore. I hope to see more impressive games than Killzone shadow fall by next yr because so far that is the most impressive game graphically shown so far but is still not 16x better than current PS3 games like sony claims. I am not expecting 16x better games but i want to see games that leave no doubt that they couldn't run on PS3.
Eonjay  +   348d ago
I really don't see why this has to be constantly reaffirmed. A GPU with more performance is in fact a GPU with better performance.
Themba76  +   348d ago
me too just paid off my bf4 bundle with watchdogs will be adding killzone.
kingduqc  +   348d ago
Great news for console gamer, welcome to 2006...

lol..
UltimateMaster  +   348d ago
Assault Android Cactus for PS4 and Vita.
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AndrewLB  +   347d ago
mewhy32- Most powerful console conceived? I take it you completely missed out on the recent announcement for the SteamBox or whatever they're going to call it. Even the slowest hardware configuration kicks the crap out of both the PS4 and Xbone. See... Valve put an actual desktop CPU and GPU in their console, both of which have their own dedicated memory (fast DDR3 for CPU and fast GDDR5 for GPU). Shared memory like PS4/Xbone utilize is what's commonly referred to as "laptop tech", like every other component Sony and M$ are using.

I had hoped these "next-gen" consoles would have gone with a hardware setup like the low-end steambox. But they didn't.

And I'm sure someone will complain that steambox is "just a PC running linux", which is true. But the same goes for PS4. Both systems use a closed linux based OS.
And another person will b*tch about price. Well... at least with the steambox you can upgrade the GPU or CPU in a few years and not have to replace the whole thing.
Towards the end of the PS3's cycle, look how pathetic it started looking...

Skyrim on PS3- http://images.eurogamer.net...

Skyrim on my PC- http://i1248.photobucket.co... (i had to shrink this down to 1280x800 to closer match the PS3's 1280x720 resolution)

This is exactly why long platform cycles like consoles have done in recent years end up holding back graphics technology and innovation. My Skyrim screenshot is running a bunch of mods, but it clearly shows how much better graphics would be if they made consoles more powerful OR if they would run shorter cycles between platforms. If PS3 and 360 weren't so weak, I guarantee Bethesda would have released Skyrim with graphics like my modded version.

And with such an already weak PS4/xbone... the cycle repeats itself.

And I GUARANTEE that neither the PS4 or Xbone will ever be able to produce graphics like my PC Skyrim screenshot. (btw... it looks like that while running 1600p/60fps). Neither console has the power to match my "Last-Gen" GTX680 which currently costs less than either the PS4 or xbone.
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Rodent85  +   347d ago
up me,,,spoted another pc fanboy on console section article (again)
Groo  +   347d ago
@AndrewLB

why is it that PC fanboys can't help themselves to try and bash anything console? Everyone has a preference be it handheld, Ipad, console, pc etc to game. I don't believe many console gamers will go into a PC oriented article/comment section and just start bashing on PC's. If PC is so great then why would you need to bash on consoles in the first place? are you jealous? are you bored? you aren't going to convince anyone of anything by trying to bash consoles to make yourself feel better.

If you have that much time on your hands, more power to you. Sounds like the symtoms of a bored troll.
worldwidegaming  +   348d ago
honestly, 60 fps @ 720p is ideal. If they can pull 1080p with no drop in frame rate I am sold!
(Wait, I was sold months ago!)
Lovable  +   348d ago
Considering the scale of the game. I'm really surprise that they can do that!

Paid my 180 days subs already!
Xsilver  +   348d ago
http://videogamememes.com/w... you better be excited.
creepjack  +   347d ago
There is absolutely nothing ideal about 720p. This is supposed to be next gen. These consoles right outta the gate are weak. Launch titles pushing them to their max. Pathetic.
dmitrijs88  +   348d ago
and FF15 + KH3 too :D
Beastforlifenoob  +   348d ago
You guys are arguing if this game is running at 60FPS
http://greenlitgaming.com/w...

Thats soooo sad it looks like a stupid mobile game. The idiot who makes the game thinks he needs quad sli titans to run his game or something
DigitalRaptor  +   348d ago
You say it looks like a stupid mobile game. You should be asking yourself "does it play like a mobile game?" - and the answer would be... Nope.

Regardless of any kind of shallow judgement you can throw out about these types of games, they will always be made to perform to the strengths of the console. Resogun is another strong example.
CryofSilence  +   348d ago
It's in development for a mobile: PSVita. The visuals won't differ drastically for visual parity.
Consoldtobots  +   348d ago
GDDR5 is going to make for some interesting pipeline design.
vigilante_man  +   348d ago
Great/Lucky/Great design decisions are paying dividends for this next gen.

I really do not understand Microsoft. Not talking about all the 180s but I guess its related - am talking about releasing their console too early when not fully ready.

PS4 caught them off gaurd in Feb. I believe MS were geared up for a 2014 release. They have rushed just to compete.

It would of been more clever to let Sony have their end of 2013 glory then hit back with some hardware improvements to match if not better the power of the PS4 in say 6 months or so.

Microsoft's haste has meant all they seem to be doing this past summer is chasing Sony's tail. Missed a great chance here MS!
kremit-21  +   347d ago
@ vigilante
I agree, to me the xbox one keeps reminding me of the sega saturn. i hope it doesnt end that way, but it still seems to have that same feeling.
dmeador  +   347d ago
@vigilante_man

I still dont understand why people keep saying this. If you were a company and had 5 years to plan a console, what season would you want that product to launch? And if you look at the launch games, its clear the devs didn't plan on another year in development. Look at the big multi-plats coming out. You can be sure that the major publishers knew the time table all along, they would not spend the resources getting a title ready for a system when they had an extra 6 months.

The X1 isn't chasing so much as reverting. The backlash turned them back into the standard console setup. You can't chase much on the hardware side, they cant do much about having a few less horses under the hood
Bobby Kotex  +   348d ago
That's all you care about? Well it already exists on a PC.
tristanwerbe  +   348d ago
PS4 is overrated
miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   348d ago
I'm trying to still figure out why this powerful console is having trouble putting BF4 at 1080p 60fps... why it's having trouble putting KZ at 1080p 60fps and so on.
qzp  +   348d ago
lets say it is overrated, it's still better than xbox 180.
DigitalRaptor  +   348d ago
Nice elaboration you provided there Tristan.

@ Mightnighter

Because... launch games. I don't recall launch window titles ever representing close to the full power/capabilities of a console.
madpuppy  +   348d ago
As consoles go. frankly, It's not.
truechainz  +   347d ago
The PS4 is not overrated. It is going to be a great console that I am looking forward to owning sometime in the spring. It is easy to get burnt out though on n4g. This site is a Sony circlejerk if I ever saw one with articles like these being a perfect example of another unnecessary affirmation of how powerful the PS4 will be when it already speaks for itself. My advice to you if you are not a troll, is to find a more balanced site where people are excited for the PS4 but do not worship it.
miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   347d ago
@digitalraptor

then why is everyone giving Ryse a hard time, and every other launch X1 game?

Is it because the really cool thing to do right now on game boards is to make fun of the X1? It's so hot to bash it right? I've never seen anyone defend X1 games being launch titles... just how weak the X1 is.
Syntax-Error  +   347d ago
Enough with this fanboy bullshit! Both consoles will me amazing. They both have features that stand out on it's own merit. That pick a side nonsense is juvenile an immature as shit. An XBO exclusive will look amazing for it's console and a PS4 exclusive will look amazing for it's console, period. Multiplatforms will be identical regardless of what platform was lead because they are so very close in architecture unlike current gen.

QZP - You must be the only idiot still calling it Xbox 180. Hey why dont you try going back to hating COD and EA since the trend slowed down. Maybe you can rejuvenate the hate train. #FOLLOWERSALWAYSFOLLOW
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Koyes  +   347d ago
inFAMOUS:SS is looking gorgeous :D going to purchase a PS4 in February when SS releases
BallsEye  +   347d ago
All great but I want big devs to speak up. Ones that make awesome graphics happen. Not just exclusive indies that don't even have access to both systems =/. We know it can pull off 60 fps in a android-like game. What I wanna see is 60 fps in watchdogs, destiny or anything else that big. Kz single player in 60 would be much more appreciated...knack not pulling off that stable 30 yet.
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TAURUS-555  +   347d ago
thank you sony ¡¡¡¡

RIP xbox1
triforce79  +   344d ago
Say hello too Beyonetta2 mate co-op in intense action and backdrops to die for with bosses that are incredible in detail.......Rock solid .60fps at FULL HD 1080P NATIVE wow is all i will say and platinum say wiiu handled it with ease.
Lukas_Japonicus  +   348d ago
Awwwww yeah.

Cant wait to get my PS4. Next gen can't come soon enough.
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WarThunder  +   348d ago
You guys have confirmation from Gaijin (PC devs) and Witch Beam.

Give the PS4 a year and all games will run at 1080p 60fps.
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Lukas_Japonicus  +   348d ago
Already knew that anyway, but thanks :)

Just common sense.
solid_snake3656  +   348d ago
Why would it take that long, since it was the developers who helped design the ps4? Anyways I can't wait for Nov 15
pyramidshead  +   348d ago
lol this article is going to be in the hot ratings for a fair while I predict >_<
gaelic_laoch  +   348d ago
PS4 the One True Next Gen Console! Hail!
thrust  +   348d ago
The one is your right!
Boody-Bandit  +   348d ago
"The one is your right!"

Waterboy that you?

OT: Only 5 weeks away. Can't wait!
And now I just added Injustice to my list of Day 1 games for the PS4.
Greatness awaits!
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gaelic_laoch  +   348d ago
There is time to Repent your XbonE ways 'thrust'

JOIN US!

http://25.media.tumblr.com/...

@thrust

:) I am more a connoisseur of fine gaming and does not like to spoil ones palate!!
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thrust  +   348d ago
Am getting both consoles, just like winding up the people who feel so stronge they are only choosing one.

And still call themselfs gamers!

If anything they hate on gamers! ;)

@flunkinmonkey, if that makes you feel better ok by me pumpkin :)
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FlunkinMonkey  +   348d ago
This rubbish about Xbone fanboys apparently getting both consoles, just so they don't come off as the sad fanboys they are is getting tiresome.

Judging from your spelling and your immature fanboy behaviour, i imagine you are young and still live with your parents, and would be extremely unlikely to have both bought for you.
Xsilver  +   348d ago
People only say their getting both consoles to seem neutral but we both know @Thrust is on MS side don't know why he acting

Ouya 4!?!?!

atleast it has better hardware! #1.1
4d ago by thrust | View comment

here he called the PS4 a Ouya 4 lmao hes a xbox fanboy and he knows it so why lie.
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Pogmathoin  +   348d ago
Nice comeback flunkinape, almost would not have detected the complete fanboy there... Whats wrong with anyone getting more than one console? Are you some kind of nazi? You responded like that to someone you claim is a kid, which makes you a grown up but immature a55.
Welcome2Die  +   348d ago
@thrust

Just like this generation, when you buy the Playstation 4, the Xbone becomes redundant.
And it will be the same next gen too.
Playstation FTW!
sAVAge_bEaST  +   348d ago
@Xsilver

"here he called the PS4 a Ouya 4 lmao hes a xbox fanboy and he knows it so why lie. "- Because he loves Micro$oft.. Why lie??? what else would you expect?!
Kryptix  +   347d ago
@PS4beaver

Not everyone has the money to get 2 consoles in one year. If you state otherwise then let me borrow a couple hundreds. I'm buying one console then follow up with all the great games that have been announced. And that first console is the PS4 for many reasons that I won't share with you because you're too ignorant to accept facts.
DeadManIV  +   348d ago
Yep, ps4 and PC is where gaming is at
ape007  +   348d ago
yes because halo, super mario 3D world, Titanfall, gears of war, forza 5, zelda, smash bros, mario kart 8, donkey kong country tropical freeze, quantum break, crackdown, dedicated servers for almost every game, ALL THOSE aren't part of gaming right?

LoL
PeaSFor  +   348d ago
titanfall? oh yeah the pc game i will get on steam.

omni gamer ftw!

PS3/PS4+PC+VITA+3DS is the way to go FOR ME
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dontbhatin  +   348d ago
Dedicated servers have existed on pc for a long time now. and idk if you have heard but the ps3 actually had more dedicated servers than the 360, so what would make that any different now??
nub_cakes101  +   348d ago
@ ape007. Halo - overrated. Super Mario 3d World - meh. Titanfall - will be on pc. Gears of War - BROTASTIC terrible shooter...brah. Forza 5 - racing game that had to be downgraded because the x1 is too weak lawl. Zelda - Finished Wind Waker years ago. Smash Bros - very average fighting game. Mario Kart 8 - looks decent, but not a console seller. Dk Tropical Freeze - Nothing beats Diddy Kong's Quest. Quantum Break - cutscene with no gameplay lawl don't care. Crackdown - Really? Have they even announced a new crackdown? Dedicated xbox servers - full of foul mouthed 12 year olds. PS4 and PC all the way.
Pogmathoin  +   348d ago
Nubcake, I appreciate your honest opinions, even though you clearly proved you have no idea about gaming. Anyone with honesty will know those games are great, classic in some cases, whether or not they like the console they are on. Its nice to know you will not be on xbox live... A relief actually...
Koyes  +   347d ago
@Nub_Cakes

Sounds like you are one of those 'foul mouthed 12 year olds' with the use of words 'lawl' and 'BROTASTIC'
DirtyPimp  +   348d ago
HAIL!
Pogmathoin  +   348d ago
13 disagrees Gaelic?? wtf wrong with this site??? I think sony fanboys saw 'one' and jumped to conclusions, then realised when they actually read the rest... Pats for the title! Also vote for Maxi!
TechMech2  +   348d ago
Actually Xbox one and Wii u also are. If you're so obsessed with power buy a pc
Palaven  +   348d ago
@FlunkinMonkey
I am getting both consoles for the exclusives.

I have them both preordered but I prefer the Xbox for multiplatforms because of the superior online play & services, so according to you I am a 'sad fanboy' and I am lying... my life makes so much more sense now. /sarcasm
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MRMagoo123  +   348d ago
What superior online play are you talking about ? If you are a multi console owner as you make it seem you would know for a fact the ps3 online was exactly like the 360 and sometimes better with games such as BF3, the only thing Live had that psn didnt in the online department was cross game chat and that is on the ps4. I really dont get this superior online play you 360 fannies keep talking about because it doesnt exist
Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II  +   348d ago
@Palaven

Your wrong cause you say it has superior online play even tho the ps4 is a new console and will have alot better online than the ps3 had along with xgame chat ect so yes you are wrong .. and i love how you mention services.. what services? i could care less cause they are all behind a paywall
Palaven  +   347d ago
LOL look at the Sony Defense Force scramble to defend Sony against a couple of words in my comment. Pathetic.
lifeisgamesok  +   348d ago
Another Indie developer that has probably never even seen a xbox one kit

Not believing this at all
Kryptix  +   347d ago
But you believe an Xbox One Dev that obviously has never touched a PS4 kit.

...ok. lol

http://n4g.com/news/1368422...

2nd page, comment 36:

"The thing is if the PS4 is so easy to develop for why aren't Sony games blowing Xbox Ones out of the water? Why would it even take 3-4 years to distance themselves?

They have some good looking games but the Xbox One games look just as good if not better. Nothing is touching Ryse" -lifeisgamesok

According to you, one "Xbox One dev" says it, it's a fact. "Multiple developers" say the PS4 is more powerful and easier to develop for, it's a lie.

Xbox fanboy logic is getting worse every time a fact gets proven more and more each passing day with developers. By the way, there's more games on the PS4 that is running 1080p native which proves a more easier to develop console. Why is Ryse running on 900p native and Killer Instinct running at 720p, a game that doesn't match Ryse graphics. You'll never answer because you're obviously blinded. Microsoft PR dollars are doing a good job on you so far.
chrissx  +   348d ago
Whew. Am I glad I jumped on the sony train. Let's go Ps4,Let's make history
gaelic_laoch  +   348d ago
PS4 choose YOU!
Themba76  +   347d ago
me too man me too.
Grave  +   348d ago
If they get War Thunder at 60fps with high visual quality it will be game over.
UltimateMaster  +   348d ago
GDDR5 is very powerful, I don't see why not.
bumnut  +   348d ago
Framerate has very little to do with RAM, it just helps with higher detail and better textures.
thrust  +   348d ago
Hahaha and this lady's and gents shows you how most fanboys think and know!
Beastforlifenoob  +   348d ago
funny that cos GDDR6 is coming next year
WarThunder  +   348d ago
I have a 2gb HD 7850 card i get around 60-70 fps in WarThunder. PS4 uses the same GPU so i guess Gaijin will easily achieve 1080p 60fps on the PS4.
Persistantthug  +   347d ago
PS4 does not use a 7850.

That gpu consumes 130 watts
PS4's total watt usage is LESS than 150 watts.

That tells me the PS4 is using some sort of mobile gpu variant.........a LAPTOP gpu, basically.
Consoldtobots  +   348d ago
correction:

framerate has very little to do with slow ram.
deadfrag  +   348d ago
Sorry GDDR5 has much to do with the framerate,simple because it can move big chunks of data at high speed!It moves almost 3x plus faster than DDR3,WITH GDDR5 you dont have to slice data in small chunks like DDR3 to move upstream,Big chunks of data plus high speed equals better framerates;less pop ins,better lods,bigger textures...............
hollabox  +   348d ago
Fanboy bait I tell ya, which is it? 30%,40%,50% more powerful? Oh but the CPU is almost 10% less powerful and lacks the audio hardware. Any who 1080P will be nice next month, probably only buying Madden 25 on the PS4 and the rest of the titles I want on the PC. XB1 see ya in January, or December depending on how much my nieces and nephews get out of me.
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staticdash22  +   348d ago
Ps4 has a separate & custom audio chip that handles the tasks
hollabox  +   348d ago
Custom audio chip seem to be less powerful at 200+ channels compared to 512. But this is all based on leaked specs, and probably yes I probably will not be able to tell the difference.

http://www.dashhacks.com/ps...
robotgargoyle  +   348d ago
Christmas is so gonna kill my wallet. Nephews love videogames, trying to find some new titles for them. Figure I might still have enough dough to get at least 2 games (already have Forza 5 preordered- waiting for reviews on other titles). Hoping the extra hours of work will pay off for the holiday rush.
hollabox  +   348d ago
Yeah same boat, I have 8 of them and they all want PS Vitas, 3Ds, Wii Us, and the oldest (15) wants the PS4 as well. The good thing I get 3 paychecks in November but my third check I have reserved for AMD new sell my arm graphics card. Depending on how much I have left I might can squeeze XB1 in right before Christmas but bills have to come out of that last check, otherwise first check in January can easily cover the XB1.
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Persistantthug  +   347d ago
@hollabox,

Well, I think you can do the math.
If the PS4's GPU = 1.8 Teraflops....& XBONE's GPU = 1.3 Teraflops, then the PS4's GPU is approx 40% more powerful..... approx.
hollabox  +   347d ago
So if you think I can do the math what's the point of responding? Every other article the performance difference seem to change regarding how much more powerful. Some say 50 percent, some say 40 percent, MS says 30 percent or less because they have more capable Audio hardware and a faster CPU, similar to the PS3 advantages over the X360. By Sony own math the PS4 is weaker than the PS3 (1.84 vs 2TFLOP claim based on Sony official specs) if you go purely off TFLOPs. That's why I asked the question which one is it? Well I guess it was a waste of time asking that question on this site. I'm probably going with 30 percent after reading multiple technical articles on both consoles which in the end probably means one platform will use more upscaling than the other.
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Persistantthug  +   347d ago
@hollabox,
I didn't say anything about audio chips, bro.
I didn't say anything about CPU, or ram, or bluetooth, or upscale chips, or HDMI cables.

I said that from a raw numbers standpoint, PS4's GPU (1.8 Teraflops) is approx 40% more powerful than the XBOX One's GPU (1.3 Teraflops).

That's basic math...it's easy to calculate, and it's basically true.
If you have a problem with this, as it's not randomly generated nonsense......well, respectfully, I guess that would be your own personal issue.

Take care, hollabox.

PS... The reason I and many others are so focused on the "GPU" as much as we are, is because these are both GPU-centric consoles.
Had they been using IBM based CPUs ( POWER PC based ) instead of AMD, then I'd be more interested in including the CPU single precision flops.
But if you wish, you can add 0.1 Teraflops to both consoles, but it's rather pointless considering AMD is X86.
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hollabox  +   347d ago
If you don't get it the whole point I was making is the totality of both systems. The PS4 monster GPU is 40% more powerful, plain simple easy enough to understand, but XB1 CPU is around 10 faster with audio hardware twice the reported performance. That is why I'm leaning more towards 30 percent or less since TFLOPS like MHZ can be misleading regarding hardware performance.

As mentioned before no doubt the PS4 graphical performance trumps the PS3 but yet PS3 CPU core is twice as fast (3.2GHZ compared to rumored 1.6) with higher overall TFLOPS performance. In the end as mentioned before I think most games will come down to upscaling
Persistantthug  +   347d ago
@hollabox,

With all due respect,
I think it's you who is truly not getting it.
This whole article and topic's premise is about the GPU.

Again, the reason people--including the article itself--are so focused on the "GPU", is because these X86 machines are GPU-centric.
And with that, PS4's GPU is approx 40% more powerful than the XBONE's GPU. Period.

Btw, PS3's total output--GPU + CPU--was approx 400 GFlops (0.4 Teraflops).
I have read that Sony said the PS3 was 2 Teraflops or something like that, but that was a lie.....basically.

Anyways, since you're out of bubbles, you can PM me if you want.
I'll teach you how to do the math on GPU GFLOPS calculation. The BEYOND3D forum guys showed me a few months ago. It's surprisingly simple.

Take care, hollabox.
thejoker1000  +   348d ago
WOOOW.. JUST.. WOOOW
MizTv  +   348d ago
Need that ps4!!!!!
MidnytRain  +   348d ago
I'm sure it's great, but it's not like it had a whole lot of competition to begin with, lol.
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Xsilver  +   348d ago
Gaijin Entertainment, the developers of War Thunder recently claimed that the PS4’s GPU is 40% more powerful than the Xbox One. So we made sure to ask about the console’s GPU and whether it’s eased out the number of things you can do on screen in the game.
“From a pure tech perspective it’s undeniable that the PS4 GPU will make it the most powerful console in the world and for us that means we can turn on every visual flourish we want while keeping a smooth & responsive 60fps. We’re focused on every version running at 60fps including Vita, frame rate is king.”

the thing is i'm not gonna say the xone is weak but i've never heard any dev say it was stronger that the Ps4 its always the other way around just saying. thats all the proof i need, http://farm4.staticflickr.c... i look at this and im blown away everytime.
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IHassounah  +   348d ago
When Rockstar Games' Dan Houser was asked what do he think of the Xbox One and the PS4 , he said both are identical but the GPU of the PS4 is better but instead the Xbox One have the better CPU advantage
thechosenone  +   348d ago
And yet Killer Instinct runs at 720p/60fps, Ryse 900p/30fps ...wtf. What the hell is the point of that massive CPU if it can't help increase graphics/res/fps.
IHassounah  +   348d ago
Looks like you don't even know what a CPU do , right ? it organize the way the system runs meaning the CPU isn't a GPU , the GPU does all the visuals and the CPU manage to handle the smooth gameplay and easy functionalities , now that Sony denied the huMA chips to be displayed in the PS4 at Hot Chips Los Vegas , Microsoft on the other hand announced HSA as a GPU and a CPU combiner meaning that it's easy to program for the system on just one side , later on the OS could use 0.3% of RAM so it can operate the Xbox One and that means that developers will have 7.083GB of RAM to use for their games , on the PS4 instead they used most of the RAM on games and the built in software could fail if Sony does not fix it meaning the PS4 in the future will use 14% of RAM for the OS and give 4.000034GB of RAM meaning eventually the Xbox One will get better over time and given to that people don't realize how the PS4 and the
Xbox One are Identical in somehow , not even a GDDR5 or eSRAM will make something better for both sides .
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Chaostar  +   348d ago
@Ihassounah

Nothing you've said here is true, not one thing.

I'm not a tech expert by any stretch but even I know it's blatantly obvious you have no idea what you're rambling about.
Walker  +   348d ago
PS4 FTW !!!
cunnilumpkin  +   348d ago
PC System Requirements

OS: Windows XP

Processor: Core 2 Duo

Memory: 2 GB RAM

Graphics: Intel HD 4000

DirectX: Version 9.0c

Hard Drive: 1 GB available space

this game would run on a solar powered calculator

it should be 4k res at 60 frames on ps4 if it had so much power
andrewsqual  +   348d ago
So Xbone then?
Kayant  +   348d ago
And again how many people have 4k TVs/ monitors....
robotgargoyle  +   348d ago
Don't see 4K sets being even in the ballpark of "affordable" for another 2 year's, that's why I bought a newer set earlier this year. Hell, OLED sets seem a bit pricey still.

I don't think either of the consoles are capable of games running in 4K. We'll see.
MidnytRain  +   348d ago
Not the point. His comment's not about who has what, it's what the console's able to do. If those specs he's posted are right, the game'll run on any old laptop.
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Kayant  +   348d ago
@MidnytRain

And what's the point of rendering at native 4K or near it if it doesn't benefit the majority of people?

Why waste resources on that. Am pretty sure it could if they wanted to but Sony have said PS4 wouldn't play games at 4k that may be mandated. I mean if the PS4 can produce graphics like KZ:SF SP at 1080p 30fps ---> http://www.youtube.com/watc...
why doubt it wouldn't be able to run this game at 4k if they wanted to?
MidnytRain  +   347d ago
Kayant

I took cunnilumpkin's comment hypothetically, the point being that with recommended specs like that, it's pointless to say how well the console runs it when the game itself isn't even demanding.
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EXVirtual  +   348d ago
Lumpkin, do you have a 4K TV or monitor? Because not many people do.
That's the funny thing about PC gamers. They automatically jump on consoles when the can't play games at 4K resolutions, but they can't do that with their expensive rigs either.
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Bolts  +   348d ago
This game was designed to run on the PS3. So yeah. It's a last gen game running on a nextgen system. On the PC even modest systems are ripping it apart. It's like saying WoW will run at 1080p 60 fps, which is a none achievement.
MRMagoo123  +   348d ago
The same could be said about Ryse and DR3 both made for the 360 yet we all know how thats turned out with the 900p and 720p respectively and less than 60 fps.
EXVirtual  +   348d ago
It's good to know that the PS4 is a very powerful console. I'm very excited to play next-gen games with not only good graphics and frame-rate, but good physics simulation and larger worlds. FFXIV being at 1080p 60fps really surprised me.

The PS4 era is going to be sweet. I'll be even more impressed of they get War Thunder at 60fps.
MASTER_RAIDEN  +   348d ago
most powerful CONSOLE? gee tell us something we didnt know. i mean theres really only one comparable competitor so to use the phrase "the most powerful in the world" is pretty misleading.
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cell989  +   348d ago
how about; the most powerful ever made, so far
MASTER_RAIDEN  +   348d ago
not sure if trolling but that definitely made me LOL. anyway i just think that using the term "most in the world" implies a certain vastness that isnt really there. when i hear something is "the most powerful in the world" i picture a thing or being rising above several different counterparts and competitors outshine them all.
while the ps4 does outshine the one technically, its not like there are also 100 other different console makers the ps4 also outshines. its JUST the ps4 vs the xbox one.

its a lot like when a football team wins one game and saying that football team is now "undefeated". while technically true, thats still a totally unneccessary use of the term. does that mean the xbox one can start calling itself "the LEAST powerful next gen console in the world!"? (cause wii u doesnt count)
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cell989  +   348d ago
You missed my point, the PS4 is in fact the most powerful console ever made, so far. More powerful than the Super Nintendo, the Commodore 64 etc etc. in the history of technology there has not been a home gaming console as powerful as the PS4, therefor my point is still valid, I think you misunderstood. The fastest car in the world is only faster to others by a margin but still holds the record until a new car inputs more ponies

Ps: now look you made me run out of bubbles, I feel trolled
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BabyTownFrolics  +   348d ago
Can't wait, my PS4 is paid off, I took off work launch Friday, its gonna be awesome. Cant wait to get my hands on Killzone.

Then next week xbox1 launches, also taking that friday off to play me some BF4, if the servers dont crash, which I'm sure they will.

:)
DirtyPimp  +   348d ago
ps4 is the most powerful next gen console
jlo  +   348d ago
So powerful that it runs Battlefield 4 at 720p and Watch Dogs at 30fps.
abusador  +   348d ago
No kz mp at 1080p and 60fps, as well as other games like resogun, and more games to come ;)
IHassounah  +   348d ago
Halo 5 runs at 1080p and 60fps , what's your point . all open world games need to have downgrades in term of smooth gameplay , Battlefield 4 have destruction functionality and that's something that will need more CPU power to use than Frame rates and resolution
CJDUNCAN  +   348d ago
while KZ:SF mp will run "mostly" at 60fps the single player campaign only runs at 30fps
saint_seya  +   348d ago
IHassounah: I didnt know that HALO 5 was playable, and graphics were comparable with killzone:SF.. Can i use your time machine?
Evilsnuggle  +   348d ago
Ihasso * halo is does not run in 1080p 60fsp. I very much doubt they can on xbone one 80 hardware. They said 60fps not 1080p 60fsp the xoxo boys are dreaming .
Evilsnuggle  +   348d ago
Funny 1 misquote from a article and now the xoxo boys run with it. You should wacth the video . A reporter asked does killzone sf running in 1080p 60fsp . GG joking said sometimes if 24 grenade go off at once it dips. All game dip frame rate pc or console . Killzone sf is running 1080p 60fsp please stop talking. http://www.youtube.com/watc... also xbone is running BF4 at 720p PS4 is running BF4 900p . EA is in bed with MicroSCAM and are gimping the PS4 so xbone lame wont look inferior to the PS4 to much.
thechosenone  +   348d ago
DICE dev says different.

https://twitter.com/repi/st...
Tooly  +   348d ago
actually bf4 is higher then 720p probably 900p on ps4 or something.its runnnig at 720p on xbox
Bolts  +   348d ago
So powerful that it lack the horse power to run BF4 at 1080p.
Deadpoolio  +   348d ago
remind me again what BF4 is running at on the One80....Oh that's right 720p just like Killer instinct and Dead Rising 3...Wow looks like ALL the One80 launch titles are running at less than 1080p...If Ryse is 900p upscaled lol, most likely means that Forza will be less and than upscaled also
Steven3657  +   348d ago
The haters have been silenced.
swice  +   348d ago
This will cause more hatred. They have definitely not been silenced. Quite far from it.
cell989  +   348d ago
the butthurt will be strong tho
sigfredod  +   348d ago
Whoever denies that PS4 is currently the most powerful console doesn't know about hardware specs, even MS say it in public, that is the games will look better and how much powerful is, thats another discussion
TRD4L1fe  +   348d ago
No denying its power but i can still wait a year to buy it
Hakoom  +   348d ago
ps3 was the most power console.. iam sure ps4 will folow so will ps5 :)
CJDUNCAN  +   348d ago
all the power in the ps3 though, but what happened? (not flaming)

no game harnessed that power. to be the best looking and playing game on ps3 was TLOU, and even that had texture and aliasing issues.

I think people are getting too wrapped up in the specs, but that's just my opinion. =]
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scott182  +   348d ago
Look at the specs of the ps3 and then look at TLoU.... The ps3 devs are magic to pull that off.
Hakoom  +   348d ago
what are you talking about? oO
what happend? nothgin happend.. it stil stays the best console..
tlou uncharted gow beyond etc etc..
all show what the system is capable of.. that no othr console worldwide achieved
Tzunoy  +   348d ago
do not be shocked if some games will be at 30 fps and i mean Exclusives. Have a nice day.
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5eriously  +   348d ago
Geez the low bubble trolls like pumpkin are really so buthurt it's amazing! Anyway gives me more reason to bubble them down even further for trolling every PS3 related article. But shame the eXB0ne noNews are so scarce who can blame the poor sods?

As for the power on the PS34, just say no more as there are just nothing comparable at that pricepoint on the market no matter what any fannyboi say!
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Metfanant  +   348d ago
where has Fridgid been lately??
NateCole  +   348d ago
Console yes. Notice the difference between who is talking about power between the X1 and PS4.
CJDUNCAN  +   348d ago
I guess there will be no need for future iterations of the Playstation..
cunnilumpkin  +   348d ago
saying most powerful console is like saying most powerful station wagon

while it may be true

there is a whole world of more power out there!

1920x1200, 2560x1440, 2560x1600, 5760x1080

4x msaa
8x
16x
32x

60 frames
120 frames

using powerful and console in the same sentence is kinda like saying jumbo shrimp

if it was truly powerful it could handle bf4 in native 1080p at higher than medium settings

its a 3 year old game engine that runs on 3 year old mid-spec pc's in higher settings and resolutions that this "powerful" console can run it
ssj27  +   348d ago
There is technology that can do over 8k at 1.000 fps..
my point is what's you point?

The best developers are makind games for the PS4 and will be making games for it in the next few year's.

Games is what make me be a gamer not resolution or fps.. those are just plusses.
The PS4 is powerful enough to do native 1080p at 60fps at that is going to be something new for the 98% of the gamers community.

Now 1080p and 60fps is not good enough? Obviously it abd it will be for the next few years.

If ganes like BF4 are doing 900p at 60fps does not mean the PS4 can't handle 1080p at 60fps Killzone SF looks 2 times nicer and it has way more advanced technology than BF4 and it's doing 1080p natively and multiplayers runs 60fps smooth.

And don't tell me BF4 has destruction .. that is just a design decision .. same goes for 64players .. KILLZONE could do that to but it does not goes with their design, ganeplay.
Beastforlifenoob  +   348d ago
My 2 year old mid range PC(just under a thousand dollars after getting some items on discounts) at the time can run battlefield 4 beta at Ultra 1080p ~35FPS.

If the PS4 cant even handle ultra or 1080p I would say Im gaming on my midrange PC for another 2 years boi.
saint_seya  +   348d ago
Beastforlifenoob.. 2 years mid range pc.. I got a high end pc 2 years ago and i can run bf4 all in ultra without def antialiasing at 35-45.. And that computer was about 3k for me, but probably was 2k in usa.. So stop telling lies..
2 years ago mid range pc cant run bf3 on ultra..
The lies you get to read on the net..
MrDead  +   348d ago
@ cunnilumpkin

Wow where can I get this PC that can do all of what you've listed for under £350?
cunnilumpkin  +   348d ago
there is a $150 gpu that sh!ts on the ps4
Flutterby  +   347d ago
@cunnil

And where do you plug the controller into the gpu ? Where does the power to the gpu come from ? I'm pretty sure that gpu won't do much for you without a mobo, a psu, CPU, ram , OS , you being the well informed pc expert (lmao I'm kidding about well informed considering you have to google pc specs to make your pc sound good even tho it's not even high end) how much would that cost compared to a ps4
theXtReMe1  +   347d ago
Battlefield 4 could run at 1080P and 60 frames per second on the PS4 and look as good as the high settings(not max) on the PC if they had gone down to the metal and tried to get the most out of it. The problem is, theyve only spent a minimal amount of time with the consoles and don't know how to get the most out of them yet. Guaranteed when battlefield five hits, it will be 1080P and 60 frames per second and look almost as good as the highest settings on the PC.

I laugh at PC fanboys who do everything they can to justify the thousands of dollars they spend every few years, upgrading their PCs so they can get an extra five frames per second out of it. While console owners tend to enjoy the same game, with slightly lesser visuals, for a fifth of the price you pay... over 5 or more years, as developers learn and exploit the next gen hardware even more.

Why can't you just enjoy what you have and not have to jump into every console thread and try to find reasons to down them. If you want to spend thousands of dollars yearly so you can claim that extra inch in a pissing contest, that is your prerogative. But you don't have to show your balls at every opportunity you get, just to justify the money youve spent over the years... That console owners haven't.

All that money spent, trying to extend you E penis, or whatever you try to do by playing a game at 120 frames per second at max settings, possibly bragging rights? Is money I, and many other gamers, used to save for their future and live in nice homes with gorgeous families, or even comfortably by themselves... Knowing they didnt spend their rent money so they can brag on a gaming forum about something that matters not, to real life.

Next time you're at the store and you are looking at that thousand dollar video card that you don't need, think of all the money you spent for your gaming rig so you could go on gaming forums and brag about the extra 10 frames per second you get over consoles. Because the only person you're impressing by doing so... is yourself and the stores, whos lease youve just paid for the next month.

I and many other gamers, will be enjoying pretty much the same next gen visuals for $400 in November. The cost of a decent video card, alone, for a PC. Remember that most game development is based around the consoles anyways. So our games, that you brag your system can play better, are limiting most of the functions that your $400 video card can do... anyways. So then you are left with your extra frames per second, that don't matter at all past 60.

Leaving you with games that are gimped and have you playing the same title with almost the same visuals... As we are. So then you have to question yourself, what did I spend all that money for? When I could've just spent $400 and been done with it and not wasted time or money on something that matters very little to the actual gameplay of any game.

Or maybe it's worth it to diehard PC gamers to spend all that money to make themselves feel better about their lives. Either way, console owners win because they spend their time playing games and enjoying them for what they are instead of going on gaming forums and talking about how much better they could be at 4k and 2000fps.
5eriously  +   347d ago
"cunnilumpkin + 16h ago
there is a $150 gpu that sh!ts on the ps4"

Some brainless fat trolls just do it because they are out of a job and have no more w@nking energy left so they lie here on N$G!
quenomamen  +   348d ago
What hell do these devs know, Xbone devs say 8 gigs of GGDR5 sucks compared to 32 megs of ESRAM.
scott182  +   348d ago
The difference is it is micro touting their esram, which was a bit lame might I add. Sony isn't saying much, they let 3rd party unbiased devs praise their machine.
larrysdirtydrawss  +   348d ago
has jokesonyou been here yet to tell us why this guy is wrong?
bligmerk  +   348d ago
All those pundits a few months ago saying next gen graphical differences wouldn't be that noticeable were completely wrong. With Last of Us and Beyond Two Souls, the PS3 gave a sample of next gen graphics. The PS4, with examples like the playable demo of Infamous:SS, shows what kind of fluidity, range of motion and volumetric particle effects are being rolled out in the beginning days of a new console generation and next gen graphics, with the PS4 and no other.
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neildee250  +   348d ago
PS4 is an astounding console then again Xbox One looked best of show graphics at EGX with BF4 (demo is shite though) and Watch_Dogs looked amazing on PS4. Both consoles are massive fun and both do superb games but only one has titanfall and thats the game for me next after playing it. I will get both consoles though as I don't like to miss a good game.

Rekoil is another game I want to see in action from Plastic Pirahna. We are doing a skype this week so hopefully a lot of new info on that too. Lets just love all consoles including the SNES ahh good times.
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