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Battlefield 4 impressions (Gamer Thumb) - is there a digital divide between PC and console gameplay?

Following on from last week's graphical comparison, Gamer Thumb takes a look at the difference in the Battlefield 4 beta's gameplay dynamics and design between the console and PC versions.

Importantly, it seeks the answer to the question: can 24-players make for an authentic Battlefield experience?

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Ohlmay3851d ago

Consoles - 24 players, low resolution, 30 FPS, small maps, less vehicles, CQB engagements

PC - 64 players (More if server hacked), HD resolution (1440p for me), 60+ FPS, large maps, far more vehicles, engagements from all ranges, PC is lead platform, more mature community, being able to optimize your hardware for best performance and lastly, the game is cheaper, you can get BF4 for PC for $40 on CDKEYs.

caseh3851d ago

Ugh consoles are limited to 24 players again...

I really enjoyed BF3 on PS3 but I don't think the devs really understand how much limiting team sizes completely f*cks up game modes like conquest.

Say you have 2 jets and 2 choppers, thats a minimum of 1/3 of your squad in the air leaving 8 people on the ground to capture and hold 5 points, and thats not even factoring in the fannys who just snipe all day.

Rageanitus3851d ago

might be because of less RAM? Not sure but I know on MMORPGS with alot of ppl on the screen it runs better with a better processor and more RAM

Ju3851d ago

I agree with that. Scaling a game like that isn't enough. All Dice is doing is making the playable area a bit smaller and that's about it. But the maps and the game play is just not designed for the lower player count. Now, with the next consoles around the corner, I can't really see why the route to current gen consoles. Cashing in on a known brand, I guess. Well, I hope the campaign plays OK. While I always liked BF, I might skip this one...or maybe I'll get it later. Is more of the same, still...

Str8Chaos743851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

Yeah, I was planning on the PC version but think it will be more of the same also. Considering skipping it as well.

Neonridr3851d ago

@Ju - simple, the reason the devs are making sure they are available on the PS3 and 360 is install bases of 75 million each vs an install base of like 1 million for PS4 and 1 million for XB1 (tops). It's simple numbers and dollar signs for these people. I wouldn't be surprised if the next game in the series releases on current gen too, it's gonna take a while before everyone upgrades.

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Twilightx73851d ago

The best part is, at 1440p, for the absolute CHEAPEST, most garbage 1440p monitor, you could have purchased the game at full price, plus BF4 premium, plus a current gen console, and even a year's worth of Xbox Live if you were to go that route. All for the price of just your display.

These comparisons are dumb, as are the PC elitists who pause their beta play long enough to swing their hardware around like a giant tech-weenie. We know your hardware is superior. We know you're playing with more people at higher resolutions and frame rates and settings. What you apparently don't know is that nobody cares.

Ohlmay3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

Then why bother replying if you don't care? I want a better gaming experience, my monitor costed $300 offers me a better gaming experience and overall a better picture for everything else. No need to get upset.

Why would I want to pay for a console with Xbox Live and BF4 premium on consoles? Battlefield on consoles is god awful, you might as well play CoD, because that's what it is.

da1writer3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

You do realize that is a comparison between the PC and PS3/360 builds? Correct?

The PS4/X1 both are 64 players for multiplayer
http://www.gamespot.com/new...

They are currently seeking a resolution higher than 720p @ 60fps
http://www.craveonline.com/...

As a person who games on PC (144 Steam Games, 5 GOG, 12 Origin) and consoles (30+ Games), it's upsetting seeing the PC Master Race (PC only gamers) have to go this odd direction of making sure console owners - whether current and future consoles - are buying garbage. Both play games, both are fun, why fling dirt at others?

cunnilumpkin3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

but the graphics are severely downgraded (ps4 is set to medium, xbox1 probably medium-low) and sub-1080p

also, the controls are very imprecise, the performance will be downgraded, the load times will be far longer, there will be much more latency and lag and finally there will be a bunch of jaggies and artifacts

the pc version is far superior in every conceivable way

this will be true for every multiplatform game released for the next 8 years

cyguration3851d ago

Talking against the PCMR? That's borderline heresy!

da1writer3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

@cunnilumpkin I'm not going to disagree with you that the graphics on both will not even be able to touch the graphical refinement that is standard fair on PC (again, I game on PC, go on exophase and check my steam profile da1writer1985).

I'm simply stating a fact that the article was based on a comparison between the PS3/360 builds against the defacto PC build - NOT the XB1/PS4 builds. I was replying to the original commenter that he is wrong in regards to consoles, especially since he didn't specify. 24players - wrong, it's 64players.
30fps - wrong, 60fps. His other points about Vehicles and CQB is wrong as well - they will be mirrored in the XB1/PS4 builds.

The only thing he is right on is resolution but that is defined on personal preference. You want 1440p - go right ahead, enjoy. You want 1080p - go right ahead, enjoy. You want 720p - ... ummm, ok, go right ahead, enjoy?

I'm not saying next Gen consoles are even close to power in regards to PC's but to go on about as if no one can enjoy the game is downright odd. Games will have the same levels, the same over the top scenes, multiplayer and singleplayer will be there, only difference between the PC build and NextGen console builds will be detail and resolution (and mods). The game will be fun no matter you platform choice - I just thought we PC Gamers and Console gamers live in the same world as people who like to play games? That's what the two platforms are capable of doing - playing games with the same "content" . What the heck happened to enjoying how a game plays?

I mean, I'm having a blast playing the Witcher 2 on my PC (due to a recent steam sale) but I have to downgrade some settings to do so. What makes my experience of the missions and gameplay different from the 360 build besides graphics? I guess it's bad to have an open optimistic attitude towards all gamers and their choice of platforms?

Jovanian 3851d ago

@da1

concerning that comment about witcher 2, the fact that the witcher 2 runs horrible on consoles and you can download stuff like full combat rebalance mod is what sets it apart. Also, the ability to crank the graphics up, because the immersion of a game does have an influence on gameplay imo, and you are more immersed with beautiful graphics instead of bad console graphics

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trenso13851d ago

"Consoles - 24 players, low resolution, 30 FPS, small maps, less vehicles, CQB engagements"

only on current gen

"more mature community"

completely biased opinion.

MidnytRain3849d ago

Won't the resolution be the same?

Ticklez3851d ago

an a heavy wallet.. just sayin

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KING853851d ago

Next gen consoles will have the same number of players as PC.

Jovanian 3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

Biggest factor is the inability to play an FPS with a mouse and keyboard on console, the best input method for FPS gaming. Gameplay is fundamentally different as a result, aiming is more precise on the PC and players are more accurate in hitting you. You don't have a bunch of inaccurate players sliding their weapons across the screen spraying because of the inaccuracies of a controller

That and the ability to control your framerate and graphical settings, increased amount of players(with respect to 360 and PS3), higher resolution, better framerate, BF4 on PC is infinitely better than on console, the way it was meant to be played just like every battlefield since BF 1942

dcj05243851d ago

Buy a keyboard and mouse adapter. There problem solved.

ATi_Elite3851d ago

Why even bother talking about the PS3/360 version? You guys should ALL be running out and buying Ps4/xb1 versions.

I'm looking forward to playing BF4 on a hacked server with 100+ people in conquest mode.

Insanely chaotic but kinda enjoyable.

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Battlefield 1, Hardline, BF4 Servers Are Being Taken Offline by Cheaters; EA Silent on Issue

Cheaters & hackers have been causing grief on Battlefield 1, Hardline & BF4 servers, with nonstop DDoS attacks among other things. Unfortunately, EA has remained silent about it.

-Foxtrot756d ago

Course they are silent, they are hoping people flock to 2042

gamesftw250755d ago

Maybe it was a inside job then haha.

jeromeface755d ago

wouldnt be the first time, titanfall 1+2 anyone?

PapaBop755d ago

Not even if they paid me.. EA always do this with old games with less money potential, if this was Ultimate Team, they'd address and sort it faster than stories could spread. Why invest time in their products when they will just dump it in the following years? Then again EA never could see the forest for the trees.

Inverno755d ago

I imagine after those games were given out for free a couple months back through Amazon, anything that makes people go to 2042 is a plus for them

XiNatsuDragnel756d ago

They want people to go on 2042. My theory

excaliburps755d ago

Nah. I think they can't do anything about it or they want to sink money into fixing it.

Pudge102888755d ago (Edited 755d ago )

EA owns all BF servers so yes, they can do something about it but they refuse to because they dont want ppl playing their old games instead of the new one. Its EA we’re talking about here

pr33k33755d ago

if this happened in 2042, they'd have something to say. which is weird, considering battlefield 1 has more players on steam right now.

Pudge102888755d ago

Its so obvious that EA is doing this or hired ppl to mess up the games so that we’d be forced to have just 1 Battlefield working.

FPS_D3TH755d ago

Honestly it’s probably the devs themselves. They did an update to bf4 way back that kinda made assault rifles doo doo in hopes that people would flock to BF1 cuz BF4 was too perfect

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5 Great Shooter Games on Xbox Game Pass

The shooter genre is one of the most beloved videogame genres in the gaming community, and rightfully so. From DOOM Eternal to Battlefield 4, passing through The Outer Worlds, the Xbox Game Pass has a lot to offer when it comes to amazing shooter experiences. Come check out some great shooter games available on Xbox Game Pass!

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MadLad771d ago

There's a bunch of great shooters on gamepass; both legacy and new.

A recommendation I have is a work in progress preview title called Anacrusis. It's a lot of fun, and has a cool aesthetic.

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5 Games That Started Out As A Buggy Mess

KeenGamer: "Sometimes a game starts out as a buggy mess and we all just stop and think, “that definitely could have spent a bit more time in the oven”. This is the case for these 5 games which infamously marked their place in recent game memory."

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KingofBandits863d ago

"Games That Started Out As A Buggy Mess - A Bethesda and CD ProjektRed tale"