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Submitted by ChaosKnight 298d ago | news

'Wind Waker HD' Outsold By 'My Little Sister Can't Be This Cute: Happy End'

Hardcore Gamer: To be fair, we don't know exactly what this game is about, but judging from the images on the trophy list, we don't want to know. And there is no title with the words "happy end" and "cute little sister" that we would ever want to be anywhere near in the first place. This just sounds several different kinds of creepy. (The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD, Wii U)

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Donnieboi  +   298d ago
So what? It's not even the same demographic. How many times have the "Just Dance" games been the top selling games month-after-month? Doesn't mean anything. People who buy casual crap like that usually ONLY buy those kinds of games (*ahem* COD). Real hardcore gamers spread their dollars across several REAL hardcore games.

Edit: I don't know anything about "my little sister" game. So forget what I said.
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BosSSyndrome  +   297d ago
It's alright. You were correct even if it wasn't exactly relevant.
abzdine  +   297d ago
i was really interested in the wii u zelda bundle but in the end i didnt buy it because it's a DL copy of the game inside, not the retail version.
i have nothing against digital games but i've heard Nintendo handle them poorly and if the console breaks down i can say goodbye to the game.
Mr_Writer85  +   297d ago
I find it funny that Nintendo fanboys thought this would do amazing and sell consoles.

As good as the game is if it isn't Mario its niche.

Look at Zelda, Metroid and other Nintendo IP's that don't have Mario they do less then 7million which whilst still impressive is only 7% of the install base which proves my point.
PopRocks359  +   297d ago
Refusing to acknowledge that no one has even talked about the digital release of the game which preceded the physical release by a solid two weeks and could have potentially taken a sizable chunk of the sales.

If you can say or provide any links that prove otherwise, I will gladly welcome a rebuttal.
Mr_Writer85  +   297d ago
Poprocks.

You can't prove either way.

Prove to me that it sold more digital than physical.
ShinMaster  +   297d ago
Unfortunately, games like Metroid don't get much love from Nintendo and so, the IP becomes weaker with the consumer.

And Zelda hasn't being doing that well since Twilight Princess, a game which I believe was going in a better direction overall despite some people complaining.
@ PopRocks359
Even Skyward Sword on the Wii which had the largest install base of any system at the time, sold less than other, newer and less "iconic" exclusive games on other consoles.
SS was a brand new game, not a remake. So do you honestly think the digital sales for Wind Waker HD are going to be any higher? And with a limited HDD space?
It just isn't as strong an IP as it used to.
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MazzingerZ  +   297d ago
I would buy a Wii U if RETRO made a HD remake of Metroid: Prime and I mean it, after that announcement I would start looking inte the WiiU's games library but right now PS4 is the only next-gen console I'm getting day one
andrewer  +   297d ago
I'm a Nintendo fanboy and the only thing I thought was playing this game. Most Nintendo fans don't actually care too much about complicated stuff, we just want to play the games we love, that's all. So, this article is pretty pointless, and just flame for hits.
PopRocks359  +   297d ago
So in other words I'm correct, it's just as possible. In other words, don't write off the sales of this game. Especially since no one has taken digital sales or the bundles into account.

Frankly I don't care how many disagrees I get. My logic is a hell of a lot more sound than your speculation.

@ShinMaster

Majora's Mask was also on the N64 which had less than half of the Wii's install base and that sold about as much as Skyward Sword did. At that point the Wii was running out of steam anyway. This has little to do with a lack of consumer interest and has plenty to do with A) Wii U's lack of awareness and B) the fact that Wind Waker's initial release was digital and about three weeks prior to this report.
zippycup  +   297d ago
what Nintendo has fanboys i thought that was a Sony/Microsoft only tag
Yi-Long  +   297d ago
It might have sold at least least one console (to me)...

... IF they would just bundle the system with the game ON A DISC, instead of as a download.
Mr_Writer85  +   297d ago
@Poprocks

So you can't prove it sold more digital? Thought so.

So you are making stuff up. Therefore you lose all argument.
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browngamer41  +   297d ago
I don't know about fanboys and saving the system and whatnot but I do know that it's charting currently fourth in the uk and this is only disc sales and only for three days... http://www.nintendolife.com...
dmitrijs88  +   297d ago
lol @ Mario, dumbest character in video games history.
_QQ_  +   297d ago
Pop Rocks can't prove it but neither can you silly guy, but you do realize people buying a wiiu to play WW HD probably purchased the Bundle which= online purchase... there is no evidence supporting either but the logical thing to assume is if WW was somewhat of a system seller, the systems it sold were the ones it came bundled free with?
Mr_Writer85  +   296d ago
Lopez

Well if it is a 'system seller' that can be proved if the WiiU's sales increase dramatically (by say 400%).

So because you can't prove digital sales were higher that means they must be?

Sounds like fanboy talk to me. When The Last of US and now GTA became the best selling digital titles Sony announced this.

No one knows what it sold digitally so therefore you can't use that as a point.
Which is why I dismissed his point as its invalid as there is no way to prove he is right or wrong.

Unless you have the numbers you can't deal in facts it's pure speculation. I'm debating the FACTS. And cold hard facts will always trounce arguments that are made up.
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ShinMaster  +   296d ago
@ PopRocks359

You just proved my point. Zelda used to be a stronger IP. Majora's Mask sold more than Skyward Sword on the N64 which has a smaller install base than the Wii.
It doesn't matter if the Wii was running out of steam, it still had more than double the units sold than the N64. SS should have sold more. Where were the fans?
Dmagic  +   297d ago
just because everyone plays cod does not mean its for casuals because before playing cod 4 was the best thing you could do before it was cool to hate it basicly what im saying is step off bitch :) from a True Hardcore gamer.
Neonridr  +   297d ago
nobody said it was for casuals, but CoD sells millions upon millions of games, but sales don't determine how GOOD a game actually is. Otherwise Justin Bieber is the greatest recording artist out there.. lol
Dmagic  +   297d ago
@Neonridr ohh please do name one shooter better than call of duty i will wait because it doesnt exist has it gotten kind of stale yes but its still top dog

halo has fallen off the last two have been horrible

gears of war was a one hit wonder with mediocre sequels judgment lol

bf is ok but no where near as good as cod

killzone ok never knocked me out my socks gameplay wise

nothing has challenged cod in a long while.
360ICE  +   297d ago
@Dmagic
I don't know. I find pretty much all the franchises you mentioned more enjoyable than CoD recently. The last time I found myself thinking CoD looked tempting was MW2.
ape007  +   297d ago
CoD 2,CoD 4 and mw 2 were absolutely amazing, BO1 was very good, the rest don't hold up to the legendary IW games
frankiebeans  +   297d ago
Very relevant nintendos top franchise is being outsold by a crappy noname barginb in game end of story nintendos ship is sinking sadly
DestinyHeroDoomlord  +   297d ago
Real hardcore gamers don't play "just dance"... we keep it real with Dance central 3
Tzunoy  +   297d ago
just dance has a huge fun and replay value than others games, you judge wrong. i had so much fun with girls with just dance that you will never have with your serious games. :)
dmitrijs88  +   297d ago
Lol, this is pathetic, no wonder Wii U is barely breathing.
PiperMCFierceson  +   297d ago
Your ridiculous,
Knushwood Butt  +   297d ago
Trying to defend Nintendo by calling out people that buy, 'casual crap'?!!

I think I've read it all. Next, we'll have people trying to claim that the digital sales are through the roof...

Edit:

Oh no.
Snookies12  +   298d ago
I would expect this to happen. That series is really popular in Japan. Not to mention it just concluded not too long ago. It's still fresh in people's minds. Plus it's on PS3. I'm pretty sure there are a lot more PS3 units out there than Wii U's in Japan at the moment. There are a lot of factors to this.
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Concertoine  +   298d ago
yeah it sold nearly 80,000 in US, which is pretty impressive, and thats probably not counting the bundles sold.
japan doesnt buy hd remakes anyway, and this game was never a big seller from the beginning.
Concertoine  +   297d ago
@diagrees
http://n4g.com/news/1367077...
"The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD (WiiU) 78,079"
SilentNegotiator  +   297d ago
People are disagreeing with less than 80,000 being impressive, not that it would sell 80,000.
TooTall19  +   297d ago
You said it SOLD 80,000 and then linked to an article that says it has 78,000 Pre-Orders. Do you really think nearly everyone that bought it has also pre-ordered it?
Concertoine  +   297d ago
@tootall
Oops, youre right. I guess that would mean it sold even more then, and thats still not counting the 2 weeks it was digital only.
abzdine  +   297d ago
yeah and if you look in % zelda might have sold more.
DEATHxTHExKIDx  +   298d ago
HD remasters are not really big hits in japan. wiiU itself still has a small install base. And Im pretty sure the my little sister thing is popular in japan.
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KonsoruMasuta  +   298d ago
These guys don't even know anything about that game.

It is based on a VERY popular anime and novel series. They are judging it based on the name and description, which is wrong.

They know nothing of Japan!
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Snookies12  +   298d ago
Yeah, I agree. Judging something without even knowing what it's about is rather unprofessional.
wishingW3L  +   298d ago
don't even try to defend this crap. The series has awful story and characters. The only reason is popular is because of the cute art and incest.

Most anime in Japan becomes popular just based on its art and nothing more, even the otaku themselves has admitted it on multiple polls on 2CH. But this trend really exploded like 5 years ago with animes like K-On and Lucky Star, and now like 80% of the new shows we get every season are just moe, mostly some shallow ecchi/moe.
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NihonjinChick  +   298d ago
You must not watch that much anime. I can name tons of anime that don't rely on moe. True, moe is very popular but it's not needed for a series to be successful. Moe also does not guarantee the success of a series.
KonsoruMasuta  +   298d ago
I'm not defending anything. I don't even like this series, to tell you the truth. I like darker and grittier anime.

I was just pointing out that this is a very popular series and this game selling is no surprise.

Also, what's wrong with ecchi? I don't care for moe, but don't bash the ecchi man.
Juste_Belmont  +   297d ago
There should be a new genre in reaction to all the cutesy stuff that comes out. We need mature, tough guy stories in Japanese animation that appeal to the real men in all of us (even the ladies). They can call it "manime"!
Hicken  +   297d ago
Yeah, because 2ch represents the majority of anime watchers...

Where's the moe in Attack on Titan? Or Steins;Gate? Or Psycho-Pass? Or the Fate series? Or Gurren Lagann? Railgun and Index? SAO? Do I have to keep going?

Or will you break down the characters until you can glean something "moe" from them to try and make your point?

Yes, lots of crap gets made, the same as with movies, music and everything else. And some of the fluff winds up being popular. But taking a handful of examples and turning them into the rule rather than the exception is ignorant.
ExCest  +   297d ago
@Hicken

Well, Railgun and Index use A LOT of moe/fanservice. The focus isn't on the moe/fanservice but hell, Biribiri is ultimate moe.

The Fate series has a *tiny* bit of moe.

As for SAO, guess who's ranking pretty high in the Saimoe internationals?
Hicken  +   297d ago
Anybody from any series could, technically, rank in the Saimoe. Likewise, as I said, you can find something moe in anybody. Kuroki Tomoko isn't moe in the traditional sense, yet she's still become wildly popular. If someone points it out to me, I'll notice the moe in Index/Railgun, but the characters and story are all so much better than that.

The point is that he wanted to make it seem like, for years, moe has been the only thing any anime has focused on, and that's just not true.
Snookies12  +   297d ago
You know this was a novel series first, right? It didn't get popular because of the art. There were very few pictures in the books. I read them a while back because they were actually pretty funny in a good way. You have every right to dislike the series. By all means. Though for what it's worth, I rather enjoyed the story/characters in the first few novels.
Baka-akaB  +   297d ago
Dont bother guys , his schtick is to go around in the anime sister site and claim everything new is mostly bad in anime
Crossbones  +   298d ago
LMFAO!!!!!
wishingW3L  +   298d ago
from my perspective Japanese gamers have the most awful taste ever.
KonsoruMasuta  +   298d ago
You have awful taste! You are just like the author of this article. You know nothing of Japan.
Flutterby  +   298d ago
I agree , I live in Australia but my dream is to live in Japan , get a traditional house in the country side out side of Tokyo or something , just like the house in my neighbor totoro, the Japanese culture is by far my fav. I am not sure how easy that would be for me tho being not Japanese and all lol
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Eyeco  +   298d ago
Japan is a wonderful country...to visit, but if you're a foreigner or Gaijin as they say life is a little different, Japan is 98% ethnic Japanese making it one of the most homogeneous countries in the world, Japanese society has always been very resistant to foreigners, once your a Gaijin you will always be Gaijin and so will your children, you should look up discrimination against Koreans and Chinese living in Japan.
SilentNegotiator  +   297d ago
Do you use that "You know nothing of Japan" line every time someone criticizes something Japanese, or just usually?
dcj0524  +   297d ago
Flutter. Its hard being a foreign er in japan. Everyone stares at you lol (black :)) and they approach you awkwardly ( mostly anyway. Some of the are cool) if you can get past that its a nice place to live. I studied
There for 2.5 years.
Qrphe  +   298d ago
West: bland shooters and empty open-world games
Japan: bland action rpgs and moe crap

Idk man, mainstream generic media is awful overall.
Beastforlifenoob  +   297d ago
and also Japan: Gigantic ass swords
DestinyHeroDoomlord  +   297d ago
Japan: school girls and tentacle monsters... :)
matrixman92  +   297d ago
different =/= awful tase
Misaka_x_Touma  +   297d ago
different culture. In my opinion Japanese gamers play variety of games than western. Most western just play their madden, cod, gta, nba, saint rows, assassin creed and so on.
SegataSanshiro  +   297d ago
Lol at the replies to this comment...I legitimately don't know if they're being sarcastic or they're really fantasizing their weeaboo dreams here
fsfsxii  +   297d ago
And you have the most awful comment ever.
Blastoise  +   298d ago
What a catchy title
STK026  +   298d ago
So, a game based on a very popular anime/manga series has outsold a game that has been released on a platform with a smaller install base in Japan. Anime/manga tie-ins are very popular in Japan and usually sell very well, and this is not the first nor the last time one of these game outsells the competition.
CrossingEden  +   298d ago
Omg...you've gotta be kidding me. -_- This manga/anime whatever sounds absolutely disgusting.
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NihonjinChick  +   298d ago
It's actually not as bad as it sounds.
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CrossingEden  +   298d ago
Searched on google images and saw these, your post is bull
http://www.mangareader.net/...
http://i3.mangareader.net/m...
http://i21.mangareader.net/...
Baka-akaB  +   297d ago
I dont like the serie , but i know it's too easy to pretend crap like this with a bunch of random pics .

Like the guy below i dont even need to look at them , i can already guess you picked some sort of racy , ero shots
NihonjinChick  +   298d ago
It's not bull. As a fan of the novel and anime, I can confirm that the series is much more than whatever you showed in your three images.

I didn't even bother looking at whatever you posted.
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Beastforlifenoob  +   297d ago
Look at the pictures bro, its the most perverted thing. Who the f is perverted enough to read that or play the game, you would be able to play the game with a constant rockerific bonerooney.
iMaim  +   297d ago
I thought the same too when I first saw that title years ago. And then I watched it.

Bro, you went full presumptious.
weekev15  +   297d ago
Never go full presumptuous.

On topic, this article is clearly a troll baiting, Nintendo hating, ignoramus special.
ritsuka666  +   297d ago
I agree. there's a lot of bad animes actually.
imXify  +   298d ago
The great power of wincest right here !
kratos_TheGoat  +   298d ago
japanese gamer are not a big fan of hd remaster plus wii u low fan base = low profit
Misaka_x_Touma  +   297d ago
what does profit have tp do with this
MidnytRain  +   297d ago
Profit = sales
ajax17  +   298d ago
Seriously, Japan? The west and east will never truly understand each other.
CaptainPunch  +   298d ago
I never understood Japanese culture, but to be fair they probably look at western culture the same way.
DivineHand125  +   297d ago
This has nothing to do with culture. There are plenty of people in the west who would have probably chosen that game over the Zelda HD remake since the fan base outside of Japan is also very large but after seeing the trailer for myself I changed my mind. Something is definitely wrong over there.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
CaptainPunch  +   297d ago
I wasn't really talking about the people buying the game.
thepatientgamer  +   297d ago
If you don't understand anything do not write an article. Research more, prepare your points, and if you have an opinion, then offer a well rounded analysis. It is not fair to either of the games mentioned, to have an author rag one game and compare its sales to another, whose console is also currently struggling, without understanding the culture of where the sales are taking place. Get it together.
310dodo  +   297d ago
A new game in a popular series outsold a Gamecube classic thats being re-released.

wow thats weird
RockmanII7  +   297d ago
"I don’t know exactly what this game is about, but judging from..."

Then don't judge the product if you don't know what it's about, actually do some research into it and looking at random in game images isn't research. OreImo is shit, but so are you.
coolasj  +   297d ago
You guys must not know how big of a deal Oreimo is.
SpiralTear  +   297d ago
Yeah, Japan LOVES Oreimo and has loved it for years. This really isn't something that should be met with such shock.
Misaka_x_Touma  +   297d ago
Zelda doesn't sell well in Japan.
Amigaengine  +   297d ago
Zelda in Japan was never a big seller so not even remotely news worthy.

Now if Zelda WW HD gets outsold by Zombie U in the West that would be a problem.
Yep  +   297d ago
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truechainz  +   297d ago
sad someone even took the time to write this...
Jagsrock  +   297d ago
Wanna know why? This is why....

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Thepcz  +   297d ago
the wiiu is a failure, everything would outsell wind waker at this point
mcstorm  +   297d ago
So is the PSV a failure? Come on way too soon to say its a failure. Its had a slow 1st year after its launch month but with the games lineup it has over the next few months will improve the sales just like the 3DS did when it got the big name games.
mohuzas  +   297d ago
if the WiiU is a faliure at this point then the PS3 must be one as well. obviously, calling the PS3 a faliure sounds retarded at this point. so yeah, wait it out before you judge will ya?
AsimLeonheart  +   297d ago
The PS3 had sold about 9.1 million units in its first year from mid-November 2006 launch till December 2007, despite being sold for $600 and later $500. The PS3 was also receiving all the third party support along with a few exclusives. How is that a failure? In comparison the Wii U has not even crossed 4 million in its first year on the market despite being sold for just $350. Moreover, the Wii U has only sold 1.29 million units since January 2013 until now. The PS3 was not performing as bad as the media was making it out to be. In fact it has consistently sold more than the Xbox360 since launch globally. I mean to say that the PS3 and Wii U scenarios are not identical.

http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo...
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MasterCornholio  +   297d ago
I never liked Wind Waker but I know that its a great game loved by a huge amount of people. But WTF is up with the other game? Judging from its name it sounds like garbage to me.

Nexus 7 2013
Neonridr  +   297d ago
okay so the game just finally released on Friday in physical form in North America. I will be interested to see what the sales numbers look like on this side of the pond. Japan isn't super crazy over Zelda, they never have been.

Shame we can't see the digital sales, how many people got that Wind Waker Wii U bundle?
ReubenPatrick  +   297d ago
I hate your ending Oreimo!
kwandar  +   297d ago
Can't comment on the Japanese game referenced, but I can say that WindWalker's high scores were well deserved. I'm still in the middle of the game and loving it!
THEMIGHTYDOOVDE  +   297d ago
And there's more people playing Candy Crush than GTA5.

What's the point of this article!
Acquiescence  +   297d ago
Incest...
It hasn't been this commercially viable since Deliverance came out.
wheresmymonkey  +   297d ago
actually the sale figures don't include digital sales, In japan, nintendo are running a promotion making all digital verisons of their software 10% cheaper,so it really wouldn't surprise me if more peopel opted to get it from the eshop instead.

besides i don't think nintendos current strategy is to make one definitive system seller but build a library of really good software that together will make owning a wiiU a very good proposition, this means there's plenty to play, they get to cater to lots of different people and it drives the consoles attchs rate up.
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