International Data Corporation (IDC) has predicted that Sony's Playstation 4 (PS4) will outsell Microsoft's Xbox One as the most popular games console this Christmas.
Also mentions non-console competition from the likes of Valve/Steam, Ouya...
I'm curious as to who will be bold enough to predict which console will have the most sales on the planet Mars.
Not sure, that would be foolish, but here on Earth we use predictions and speculation to create informed decision on supply chain. Investors use predictions to decide where to place their funds to maximize returns.
@ATi_Elite Actually that is an easy question.. Tied at ZERO
they also use pre-order numbers
It's not a huge stretch though to believe this. Xbone is more expensive than PS3 at launch, is £80 more than PS4, and doesn't have a year and a half lead to get an installed base.
Finally a mature and reasonable reply.
is there any place where ps4/xbox one is launching where ps4 will not outsell xbox one? price matters quality matters(sony has a brand name more in international countries,) psn-plus is awesome sony owns so many studios so awesome exclusives guaranteed but in no way am i saying xbox one will not do well, i believe both will sell out so end of the day great competition, means greater services/content
Yeah didn't need to be a scientist to predict this. Next year will be interesting though.
its hard to say but im sure there is a demand for the ps4 on mars being that the console is out of this world lol
is that fact or their opinion who know the future holds anything can happen
... it's a prediction. It even says so in the title. And it's a reasonable one, all thing considered.
DAT $100 difference.... Could be the deciding factor for many in the end.
Ya its going to hurt. MS doing what Sony did last gen but in all the wrong ways... Sony trojan horsed blu-ray and it paid off we are all using that still even today as the new standard, while MS trojan horsed Kinect that nobody cares about and is a proprietary piece of technology that comes off gimmicky. Probably next year they will release a Kinectless SKU for 349.99 when they start selling Kinect at a standalone. If people really want an xb1 I recommend waiting until then if you dont want to pay for a glorified camera.
Same here Hitman, I am looking to get the X1 Christmas 2014, but only if the price is less than £300 and has no kinnect in the box. My main purchase next year will be the Oculus Rift for my PC(& PS4 hopefully) But I cant wait for my PS4 day 1!
How do you know that the Kinect won't pay off like the bluray did? Many people said that we didn't really need bluray and nobody cared about it either. IMO Kinect 2 is already guaranteed to be awesome for navigation. Now all we need for it are some more games! Also don't compare this the Sony's mistake. The PS3 was $200 more than the X360. The X1 is only $100 more than the PS4, which is easily justified by Kinect.
@ Mystogan...and the bluray easily justified the $600 ps3 the next lowest bluray player was $1000 at the time. I want to know if releasing the first kinect could have hurt xbox1 kinect in the long run, people could have lost interest. I really think the motion gaming fad wore off, and MS may have done wrong by releasing the first kinect and numbing people to it.
My EB games store where I work (in Canada) has 325 PS4 preorders and 52 Xbox ones and it's not even close. These numbers is literally unheard of. All the 9 stores in my city have PS4 just decimating Xbox One. It's 4-1 or 3-1 currently across Canada.
It's the same story with xtra vision hmv and gamestop in ireland
That is a huge difference in preorder ratios for the two consoles. I wonder what the ratios are for other retail stores and in different regions of the world respectively. If PS4 preorders are like that consistently throughout the USA as well, where its competitor usually has strong support, than the PS4 is off to a tremendously good start. The momentum leading up to launch for the PS4 is huge! If its competitor does not off set this someway - some how shortly after both are launched, PS4 could be the runaway success similar to the PS2.
I don't know. Single person buying an x1 and I'm in college...I know a lot of people lol
and i suppose some of these people you know owns a 360 too,which is more troubling for ms if large numbers of them don't "jump in" for xbone.
They're just waiting Sony fans are just very impatient. They all ran and pre-ordered. That is typically Sony fanboy behavior. They all have this "Lets all go do this mentality" exhibit A, Sony fanboys start petition begging Sony not to have DRM, Exhibit B Sony fanboys start petition for capcom to make Dead Rising 3 for PS4 too. Exhibit C Sony fanboys start petition for DMC and Final Fantasy to stay Playstation Exclusive. You can google all of these I guarantee you its all true. I have never heard about Xbox fanboys starting a petition asking for Sony exclusives nor asking to make something stay exclusive like Mass Effect and BioShock. I challenge you to search for one. But anyway, in the end you'll see sales will be very close. This year I think they already won,Because of the X1's rough start. But next year the real war starts.
@Mystogan There is a petition to bring kingdom hearts 1.5 hd to ps3. there was one for mgs4...its not god to talk in absolutes becasue one find is enough to prove it wrong. http://www.petitiononline.c... http://www.change.org/en-GB... I am absolutly not a sony fanboy and yes I have a day 1 ps4 preorder. I do lean towards Sony because like their variety more. I plan on getting a x1 as soon as a game that I want is on it, if that is before or after a price drop idk. I bought a 360 this gen for, like many others, the multiplatform games that ran better on it. Next gen looks like that system will be Ps4.
@Mystogan That's the most myopic and ridiculous comment I've seen in a long time. So you're telling us that for some reason MS fans are bastions of patience and DON'T want the latest shiniest toy on release, and yet for some reason Sony fans are mindless sheep who will buy anything on Day 1. So I guess that the 360 selling out for months after launch was just an aberration? Was it all lies that 360's were selling for 3 times their RRP on ebay over the Xmas launch period? And I guess the slow start for the PS3 was all fabrication?
They do own 360s lol. I do. I loved it up until MS stopped with the support
And? I want a Bloody Roar reboot. To hell with bragging out filling up someone's bank account and who outsold who.
I can't say I care for Bloody Roar, but I sure as hell agree with the sentiment of your comment.
Agree, if KI was Bloody Roar I would have considered a day one purchase. Someone needs to bring that back. But no surprise on this article.
i wouldn't want bloody roar to be in the place of ki, i would want better for it. bloody roar was a cool game back in the day.
Bloody Roar with next gen visuals would be so sick!
so, what happens next after one outsells the other?
Nyx descends to earth.
I hope we've made it to the top of tartarus by then.
Hmm if Microsoft struggles again for another generation, I am really wondering if they will exit the gaming market. That would only leave Sony and Nintendo. Anyone who wants the quality to continue from Sony, better hope that the competition stays healthy and that XBONE sells well and makes decent profits for Microsoft.
Both consoles will sell out! it all depends on how many each company will make! i have spoken to a number of managers at game and each one have said the same they are both pretty much neck and neck and the demand for both is very high.... one even said take no notice of the nutters online hahhaha am going to believe the people who work at the retail stores over the nutters!
There is two sides to that. I work in retail. I'm assistant manager of a game shop and in Ireland there is no competition. My companies orders for ps4 stand 6:1 against Xbox one currently. While I expect the Xbox one to still do well. If your game store is like mine then I would well believe managers telling you that. Even I say that to customers. We have our head office breathing down our necks to pull in Xbox one orders because Microsoft is breathing down there's. We need to keep a relationship with them strong. Positive attitude makes so much difference. It however doesn't make it true. This may not be the case where you are from but it certainly is with retailers here
Am on the Wirral in uk, all my friends mostly play on xbox but we do also have ps3s, we are all getting the xbox one first then later next year the ps4
I think xbox was always a little more dominant in the uk. Most of ireland is playstation territory with the exception of the cities. Theyve been taken by ps4 so far though
I think age has a lot to do with it too. I am guessing @thrust, like many others, is a younger guy who hasn't enjoyed Sony's previous consoles and for who the 360 was their first proper console. The 360 did well in the UK for one reason only, it had over a year's headstart as the only next gen console on the market and MS marketed the shit out of it. As soon as the Sony console was available and despite its relatively poor launch titles and expense it flew of the shelves to the point where it eventually sold more in its first year than the 360 did and has outsold the 360 each year since. I work in a very large organization and I know that most of my colleagues bought a PS3 to go alongside their 360 and of those almost all got rid of or didn't replace their 360's when they inevitably broke. However, talk to my 15 year old son and all his school friends play on 360 yet, he says that a very large portion are switching to PS4 this time around. I know this is all anecdotal but the pre order figures seem to back this up. For people in their 30's or older there is something that MS cannot market and cannot compete with Sony on and that is legacy. Sony have been producing amazing gaming experiences for a long time and I for one have been gaming on Sony consoles for 20 years. Like it or not, the average age of a gamer is now mid 30's or more and I would guess that like me they experienced games on Sony consoles for most of their adult lives and will continue to do so. Sony have a legacy, a proven track record and most importantly mean something more than simple brand loyalty to many millions of more mature gamers.
i agree , in northern ireland where i am this gen was roughly 60 / 40 in favour of x360. this upcoming generation no-one seems interested in the xbox one . for me if halo is good i may buy one when it releases depending on whether or not h_hour has been released. if it doesnt then im sorry micro im just not interested
Am 34 guess your wrong!
I was assistant manager for over 3 years at my EB games and yeah Canada as a whole is 3-1 or 4-1 based on our companies numbers. I've asked my friends at Best Buy/ Futureshop and they haven't had much preorders for Xbox One. I can tell you guys that we've never seen numbers like we have seen for PS4, up till these preorders started we have NEVER had close to 100 preorders for any systems at any of the 9 stores in my city and now all of a sudden all of our stores have over 200 each on average. For the first time ever we're having a midnight launch for a system. All 9 stores will be having one for PS4 and ZERO have Xbox One midnight launch happening. Honestly the biggest problem we have is where the hell do we stack that many? It'll take up more then half my stockroom. I'd say we'd maybe sell 150 Xbox Ones by the end of December and if Sony keeps stocking us probably about 500 PS4's for my store.
Why lie? You would have to go to like a town where only Microsoft employees worked to find a store where the numbers were close to even. Just face it: it's not even a contest.
I'm a Brit and us Brits are a cheap lot who ALWAYS go with the cheapest option. The fact you are paying less for more power simply sweetens the deal.
Yeah PS3 sold better in the UK so why would this be different? The only competition market is the US. That is where the war will be won or lost with Sony. Let's just wait and see what happens.
Another reason why companies will pay attention to predictions and preorders is because it gives them a better idea of how many units they need to produce. You don't want to make to many because you have to pay for production UP FRONT! This is critical to understanding why a manufacture would rather sell out than over ship. I can go into more details about how this cycle works but the crux of the matter is that Sony and Microsoft have to be able to accurately gauge demand for their products.
Yeah think? Sony has always outsold MS in every Gen.
PS4 seems to be doing well in those lost territories it squandered in the PS3 days. Looks like they're gonna make a decent come back in the UK and maybe even spear head NA.
I don't think people realize how awesome it is for PS4 to outsell the X1. Then it forces Microsoft to win back it's consumer base, like what it's been trying to do. Means they'll invest in more gaming studios and hopefully some nice franchise reboots. Not to mention ensuring that Games with Gold continues. I personally love the fact that there will be plenty of competition. Competition between big corporations = CONSUMERS BENEFIT!
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