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Sony Explains Why PS4 is More Fun than Xbox One

Gameranx: "Shuhei Yoshida has come out to explain just why the PlayStation 4 is a more appealing option than the Xbox One." (PS4, Shuhei Yoshida, Sony, Xbox One)

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nick309  +   862d ago | Well said
Because he works fof sony and this is pr talk. Both willl be enjoyable, just like this gen.
UltimateMaster  +   862d ago | Well said
Read article before you post anything.

Sony is centered on the consumer.
Not trying to get DRM restrictions nor having a kinect spy camera watch you all the time, tough Yoshida himself only said they were focused on the gamers while the editor added the DRM + Kinect.

I get it Microsoft, you are removing the mandatory kinect because people don't want to get spied at from inside their homes.

But that simply means that indeed people that do uses the Kinect will get spied on and the only way not to be spied on is to not plug in the kinect in.

Couldn't you just not support PRISM in the first place as far as the Xbox One is concern?
You're still selling the kinect bundled, it has some features people may be into but won't because of privacy issues.

I don't see a lot of people plotting terrorist attacks while playing Xbox One and if so, how would you make the difference between a real terrorist plot and people playing Call of Duty?
You can't. The way PRISM works is that it's based off words like "Bomb" or "explosion" and that could be just about any military shooter out there.
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Gekko36  +   862d ago | Well said
@UlimateMaster, don't "bate" me... So you don't like Microsoft and think that Sony are Beautiful wonderful people, cool!!. I think both companies are cool, though I'll be the Xbox One cos it's cooler for me.

If people wat to spy on me and my man in the livingroon "doing the bad thing" then great. I don't give a sh!t.

Since you're not buying one neither should you...yet you do...I wonder why?
UltimateMaster  +   862d ago | Well said
Because the majority of people don't want to be spied on.
A lot of people aren't interested in the kinect and would want an Xbox One without it.

And it's not a question of doing bad things or not, it's your personal life, your privacy.
If you want to throw that away for the sake of being a fanboy, good for you, but guess what? Many other people don't want that.

They make petitions against S.O.P.A. because they don't want that sh!t.
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UltimateMaster  +   862d ago
Saying an "Alternative" of not having PRISM while still being able to plug your kinect would be in the consumer's best interest.
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saber00005  +   862d ago | Well said
@Gekko36, U MAD BRO? Calm down and count to five. No need for your hostel negative waves.

He's pointing out his opinion and what the article said. Also, what makes you think that it's just going to be the government that spies on you? Microsoft and Sony has been hacked before. What makes you think people won't try to hack the kinect to get information from you (identity theft). Doesn't the kinect have a microphone?
malokevi  +   862d ago

"Since you're not buying one neither should you...yet you do...I wonder why? "

"Because the majority of people don't want to be spied on. "

my my... so much compassion for your fellow man! You aught to redirect that compassion towards solving our global food crisis, or supporting people who lost their homes in the recession.

Concern for gamers who don't want to maybe probably not be spied on seems like such a waste of your unfettered altruism.
Cherchez La Ghost  +   862d ago
@UltimateMaster LoL!! As long as you have an IP Address, Big Brother is always watching. It's just not for Kinect. It can be the camera on your PC/Laptop/Tablet. It can be the information on your smartphone. Hell, people can hack into the camerea on your Smart TV now. The Gov't only wants people who are a risk against national security. And stop just saying MS. MS & Google teamed up to sue the Government for more privacy for consumers. Hit the link below to the IGN article.

Remember it was the US that created the internet. And they gonna justify the means when it comes to National Security.
Godmars290  +   862d ago
MS still wants to "spy on people" but it has little to nothing to do with SOPA or PRISM. They want to monetize the time you spend using the XB1 selling it off not the government but other companies in the name of ad revenue. That's why Kinect has been forced included though supposedly no longer needed, yet most if not everything for the XB1 has been tailored to include it. Things are still "better w/Kinect".
True_Samurai  +   862d ago
I read it and it didn't even justify the title. PS vita? OK
pete007  +   862d ago
well, i believe they should apply their concerns to all their products then. as far as i know all their vaios have cameras, all their xperias have cameras, and so on, even ps4 has a camera, its just bullshit what their claimming
Stsonic  +   862d ago | Well said
The US did not create tbe internet. one english man did.
ziggurcat  +   862d ago
i'm not a fan of kinect by any means, but thinking MS was going to spy on people through the device is ridiculous.
Palaven  +   862d ago
The people who think MS are going to spy on users with Kinect have been watching to many movies.
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bcrazy18  +   862d ago
@UltimateMaster - Do you really think the Kinect can be used to spy on people? Are you really that naive? Let's think about this rationally and then maybe you'll understand that it won't be used to spy on you. That's just an idiotic opinion on something you have no proof for and the same goes for anyone else who thinks the same. Let's be grown her and not act like a bunch of 10 yr olds who don't have a life and spend their days bashing a console they have no plans of getting in the first place. Thanks
JokesOnYou  +   862d ago
As soon as I hear "I dont want Kinect spying on me" from someone on the internet, with likely a laptop/pc camera, cell phone, etc and some online social membership like facebook I mediately tune them out as I just can't take anyone that uninformed about the thousands of other ways the govt can attain private info seriously I mean then these same folks actually feel like kinect is the best secret agent device Agent Smith has been waiting for to see them in their underwear. lol, I just dont get it.

btw Yes I think Kinect is just 1 of many reasons X1 will be more fun for me.
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ShwankyShpanky  +   862d ago
"The Gov't only wants people who are a risk against national security."

That is just adorable.

"thinking MS was going to spy on people through the device is ridiculous."
"The people who think MS are going to spy on users with Kinect have been watching to many movies."
"Do you really think the Kinect can be used to spy on people? Are you really that naive?"

I know, right? These ridiculous paranoiacs need Microsoft's own former Chief Privacy Adviser to set them straight:

Ex-Microsoft privacy adviser: I don't trust company after NSA revelations
AngelicIceDiamond  +   862d ago
"If you want to throw that away for the sake of being a fanboy, good for you,"

So Somebody who buys X1 now is a fanboy?

Great logic there. Its amazing people don't think before they type.
BallsEye  +   862d ago
"kinect spy camera"

Take off your tinfoil hat and then we can talk.

If it would be article about MS saying how it's better than ps4, comments would be like " PR talk! MS is desperate!
XboxFun  +   862d ago
Because Kinect is the ONLY way the government could spy on you, lol.

What is this North Korea? When has this become such a big issue?

Oh yea, more lame excuses created to downplay the Xbox One.

Hmmmm, I wonder if anyone of the Sony fanboys will buy the new PS Eye(Kinect) for their new PS4? I wonder will they too have the same fears they had about the Kinect 2.

naaaaw, of course not because now it's Sony right?

I wonder if any news outlet reported the govment spying on people through the original Kinect? Surely that would have came to light right, since MS supports the NSA.
Klad  +   862d ago
Sony are doing a bundle with the PS4 camera! the new Dualshock controller has a built in Speaker/mic! if you don't think & HUGE company like Sony will attempt to spy on some people through there tech & there gaiki cloud service, then i don't know what to say. Even Nintendo are not as innocent as you may think they are, with there built in Wii Gamepad camera & mic, Neither are Apple...

iphone >i = eye >
Siri (backwards) = Iris
Army_of_Darkness  +   862d ago
@ gekko,
Easy bro, nobody wants to watch 2 dudes doing the "naughty" in their bedroom. Lmao!
Pogmathoin  +   862d ago
Correction, Sony want to win you back, after PS2 domination, they lost alot, had alot riding on PS3... nearly destroyed them. Maybe they will continue doing good things, but like any business, once they have you, there comes a time when they feel like they can tell you what to do. Just like when your locked in a contract with Phones, they call the shots. That 'alot of people don't want to be spied on' are fanboys, a small noisy minority in the grand scheme of things...
FamilyGuy  +   862d ago
"Yoshida said. “We want consumers to look at how much fun it is to use this system, not just for playing games but for finding out about games and sharing the experience with other people."

This is a huge factor for me. Being able to seamlessly watch a friend play any game they've decided to live stream, jump into the game at a really fast speed and even playing a game as it downloads/before it's finished downloading.
I love the social aspect of following popular streamers and easily seeing game play of the games I might be interested in. All from the comfort of my gaming console. It's funny because it caters to my interest/wish/desire and it also helps Sony as a form of game advertisement. Watching people play is a way of letting a game sell itself. So many times I see what my friends on PS3 are playing and wish I could just pop in and view what they're doing, especially if it's a game I don't have.
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2cents  +   861d ago
Are we doing this all over again?

On topic, the article title is just flame bait. Yoshida said no such thing, the artie is based off "We want consumers to look at how much fun it is to use this system".
No cause for rage here. Don't give gameranx what they want.
Bigpappy  +   861d ago
@UltimateMaster: That user name alone shows you got your head stuck in you own bottom. No one voting you in charge of speaking for the majority or minority. You are just a kid on the internet who happens to be a Sony fanboy. Getting in line, there are plenty of those.
nukeitall  +   861d ago
What is ironic is the people saying "MS spying" are the same ones with laptop, tablet or smart phone camera. All those devices, right now has apps that infect your device and opens up the camera for real spying.

In many cases, these spying of infected machines results in blackmail and even suicide.

Here is an article just this early May about it:

"Meet the men who spy on women through their webcams"

The vast majority isn't concerned there, but somehow they are so concerned about MS console which is a closed platform.

Please bring your altruism to where it matters and let us others that don't want your "goodwill" to ruin our fun.

By the way, Kinect has a microphone, maybe it is trying to spy on you by listening? /sarcasm
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CerebralAssassin  +   861d ago
Can you do us all a favor and ask mommy and daddy before log in again?
ShwankyShpanky  +   861d ago
"What is ironic is the people saying "MS spying" are the same ones with laptop, tablet or smart phone camera. All those devices, right now has apps that infect your device and opens up the camera for real spying."

Your remote viewing capabilities are truly astounding, to be sure. Who cares about Kinect when apparently nukeitall can see right into our homes with no hardware assistance whatsoever!

There's no camera on my laptop. There's no camera connected to my PC. I don't own a tablet. My phone (that stares at the inside of my pocket) is a BlackBerry, which has notoriously good security. Not everyone so willingly surrenders themselves to the surveillance state.

Of course, those are all false equivalencies on a number of different levels, but the naive and/or apathetic swing them around like trump cards.

Doesn't really matter what I think, though, since the XBL EULA *admits* that Kinect is and/or can be used to spy on you. The current XBL EULA includes the following. Keep in mind that the term "Services" will cover a much broader spectrum with the One.

"If you use ... Kinect, we may also collect data about the way in which you interact with the console and the Services to improve Microsoft products and services."

...and this:

"Personal information collected by Microsoft may be stored and processed in the United States or any other country or region in which Microsoft or its affiliates, subsidiaries, or service providers maintain facilities. You consent to any such transfer of information outside of your country or region."

...and of course:

"we may access or disclose information about you, including the content of your communications, in order to: (a) comply with the law or respond to lawful requests or legal process; (b) protect the rights or property of Microsoft or our customers, including the enforcement of our agreements or policies governing your use of the Services; and (c) act on a good faith belief that such access or disclosure is necessary to protect the personal safety of Microsoft employees, customers, or the public."

All of these terms subject to the interpretation of MS/govt lawyers. At least we can sleep sound in the knowledge that multinational corporations and government never abuse their powers or the public trust... right?

It's not like Caspar Bowden knows WTF he's talking about... right?
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Rageanitus  +   861d ago
Correction they are all out there to get your money. Till the day we do not see overpriced arcade/mini games and free mods, dlc they are still centered around your money and money grabbing.
trouble_bubble  +   861d ago
"had alot riding on PS3... nearly destroyed them."

wow, in what alternate universe did that happen?

You know, it doesn't matter that they sold over 80 mil, surpassing the 360 with one year less on the market, doesn't matter how many Q1-Q4 reports they issue showing that gaming is one of their most successful tentpoles alongside their movie studios, it'll always be 2007. Dooooooom!
glenn1979  +   861d ago
B-radical  +   861d ago
At the end of the day sony is just a company that want's money......the only difference between them and microsoft is that they are making there fans happy making people more willing to buy there console
morganfell  +   861d ago
"i'm not a fan of kinect by any means, but thinking MS was going to spy on people through the device is ridiculous."

Look at everything we have discovered the NSA is doing to unconstitutionally spy on people worldwide. As little as a year ago most people said the idea of such activity was also ridiculous. Now look where we are. Welcome to 1984.

Also bear in mind that Microsoft, one of the principle creators of Prism stated they would vigorously fight any attempt by government agencies to utilize Kinect for spying. That very statement is an admission such illegal information gathering is possible.
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UltimateMaster  +   861d ago
And here's a 1000 reasons why it's not a concern, because other device support it like facebook and smartphones.

Nobody agreed to them in the first place.

Remember Justin Carver, remember how he said a few sarcastic stuff on Facebook, which is part of PRISM and now he is facing 8 years of prison in court.
Even if he said: Jk.
But even if everyone knew it was a joke and he didn't want any harm, they still want to make an example of him.

Can't say I didn't warn you.

Everything on Skype will be recorded as well so you may want to avoid making any jokes.
Hell, with their Reputation system, you might as well not get a mic if you'd want to jerk around.
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Hitman0769  +   861d ago
@saber00005 @UltimateMaster

lmao, you better throw away your smartphone and log off the internet permanently if you're that scared little buddies. ;)
schubacca  +   861d ago
@UltimateMaster: We get it, you like Sony and do not link MS.

But Nick309 is right on is calling this PR speak and stating that BOTH machines will be enjoyable.

Telling him to read the article is laughable especially after the drivel that you posted.
Ketzicorn  +   862d ago | Well said
The funny thing is he doesn't even mention the X1 just talks about what he feels the PS4 does well. These headlines are ridiculous some times.
MrDead  +   862d ago
You’re right but this title will guarantee hits for the site.

Shuhei Yoshida doesn’t even mention the Xbox.

“We continue to say what we've been saying since February - PS4 is really designed for consumers and focused on how people want to play games. At the same time, we've really made sure that it's hardware which game developers will enjoy making games on,” Yoshida said. “We want consumers to look at how much fun it is to use this system, not just for playing games but for finding out about games and sharing the experience with other people.

“Of course, we have large studios, Sony Worldwide Studios creating exclusive titles for PS4, as well as what is, for me, one of the most exciting aspects of PS4 - the amount of indie people who have expressed interest and are already making games for PS4, as well as PS Vita. The ease of use, the performance... It's very powerful hardware. We believe this is the most powerful console ever made. The content, the games available, the usage of PS4 surrounding games... That's the message we've been communicating, and we'll continue to do that.”

Can anyone spot where the Xbox is mentioned?
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Blaze929  +   862d ago about the interview this response was pulled from?

"Q: But in terms of the direct launch of your hardware against Microsoft's hardware now - if you have an audience of consumers in front of you, what do you say to them is the difference, the reason why they should buy a PS4 and not an Xbox One?"
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patsrule316  +   862d ago
MrDead is correct. The question he was asked may have been why should you buy PS4 over XB1, but his answer wasn't why PS4 is better than XB1. His answer was why he thinks people should buy a PS4. He gave a very diplomatic response, and did not knock the competition in his answer. The headline is not representative of the information in the article.
MrDead  +   862d ago

And did he state that the "PS4 is More Fun than Xbox One" like the title implies?

The title should be Why Sony Thinks You Should Buy the PS4. His reply doesn’t mention the Xbox.
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Blaze929  +   862d ago

lol make up your mind. who cares. what will it change? you all are something else i swear lls
GiggMan  +   862d ago
Very diplomatic indeed.

Not only did he not mention Xbox but everything he said is true and completely honest.
andrewer  +   862d ago
indeed, frontal assault like this is ridiculous. I'm here for the games, a PS4 with no games is as "fun" as a Xbox One with no games. So, the console is not fun, just a system to deliver it through games.
JackStraw  +   862d ago
didn't say the xbox one wouldn't be fun. it said the ps4 will be more fun. stop being a neutral nimrod.
nick309  +   862d ago
Getting both like this gen.
Ps4Console  +   862d ago
Let the "Gamer" decide .
I'am sure us gamers will tell you the truth on what we think ?
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Thunderhawkxbox  +   862d ago
Of course he's right with more indie games than real AAA games will be more fun
otherZinc  +   862d ago
I'm waiting for one of these so called "journalists" to ask him or a SONY in house dev: "when are you going to let us play a game that demonstrates the power of the PS4"?

Killzone:SF doesn't have "campaign" co-op, it's single player, horde mode co-op is a side mission download you have to pay extra for.
And, Killzone:SF doesn't do both:
1080p "native" @ 60fps in sp or multi...its either they do one or the other.

Drive Club
You're racing against friggin "ghost cars, And, DC isn't 1080p "native" @ 60fps.

So, where's all this power?

If someone says PS4 can do both in any mode, please provide a link
T2  +   862d ago
ghost cars? LOL what the hell are you talking about the whole idea of the game is to create clubs and race online... hence the name..

"Sony has posted a trio of videos from Gamescom of its upcoming PlayStation 4 racer DriveClub in action, running at something "closer to" the game's native 1080p resolution.
"In the first video, rival Clubs faced each other over the duration of Gamescom, and racers were able to align themselves with one in order to score points with their performance. Even though the team of Evolution's community development manager Jamie Brayshaw wasn't "the fastest overall, [they] earned the most fame points to win the challenge." So the video plays out with his club "Like A Boss" ultimately victorious."
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DigitalRaptor  +   861d ago
I want to know what part of Killzone: Shadow Fall was possible on a current gen machine, because I don't see much that is. That is all you had to ask yourself, rather than look like an exuberant rabid troll, making no sense of even his own words.

And Drive Club isn't native 1080p?? Racing against ghost cars??? What are you smoking there in la la land? Man you idiots are getting more broken by the day.
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THC CELL  +   862d ago
A British man called Tim Berners-Lee created the world wide web a American created the internet, research started in the 60s
otherZinc  +   861d ago

That link you provided is exactly what I'm talking about,; there are no cars on the track! I mean wtf, how boring is that going to get?

I've seen several Drive Club videos and it's either ghost cars or nothing.

They continue to tell us how powerful the PS4 is, its time to show us. Drive Club should be both:
1080p "native" @ 60fps No Excuses!
DigitalRaptor  +   861d ago
@ otherZinc

1) You're admitting you were wrong about native 1080p then? If you can't get that right, how can you expect anyone to take your garbage seriously?

2) Are you really that dense to think that DriveClub is not going to have actual cars to race against? I'm literally lost for words that you believe that. It's a social racer, how can there be no people to race against????? Man..... You are watching the driving being demonstrated in a game called DriveClub. Drive = driving. Club = a group of people racing.

3) PS4 is more powerful than your favourite next gen console. It's factual. Microsoft PR have already attempted to convince you otherwise, but everyone with half a brain knows it. Launch games have never been an indicator of how powerful a console is, at least I've never seen so.

4) DriveClub has dynamic systems that a 1080p @ 60fps Forza 5 doesn't. Real time lighting, non-baked, dynamic weather systems, day / dusk / night racing, environments that are modelled as more than just skyline eye-candy. There's more going on in DriveClub than you'd like to bother looking into, and ironically, your excuse is "no excuses".

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Blachek  +   862d ago
this article is misleading. He spouts PR theory and gemeranx mislabled for attention. No different from what Microsoft or even Nintendo believe for that matter.

I'm going to post my opinion on Sony, skip and read on if you don't care.

I don't like them, I don't care if you don't agree.
bganci  +   861d ago
There is a absurd amount of PS fanboys commenting. Who the heck is still concerned about being spied on? You don't even have to have the kinect plugged in. Both consoles look great. If you really think Xbox Fanboys are worse than PS'S? Think again. There is no proof that Microsoft will spy on anyone. Stop acting like you know. Grow up.
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LordDhampire  +   861d ago
While Im not worried about the government spying on me, I do always worry about normal people hacking it...but its a tiny worry(way in the back of my mind) but I refuse to pay for something I know I won't use other than like the first time you use voice to turn it on then the gimmick runs out.

I know for a fact they will drop the price with a kinectless bundle within the next year, then Ill buy one
TAURUS-555  +   861d ago
ps4 is winning the console war..hands down
Stuntz  +   862d ago
These articles are so dumb lol. HE IS SONY WHY WOULD HE SAY O MAN WHY THE PS4 SUCKS COMPARED TO X1. That is like Major Nelson coming out and saying man Why this X1 is so much better than the PS4. They are irrelevant, can we just wait until they both launch so the consumers can decide whats better?
byeGollum  +   862d ago
Media/title spin best suited for N4G.

I suggest you read the article.
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Xsilver  +   862d ago
Read the Article people.
Awesomeo3000  +   862d ago
welcome to n4g where every title is flame bait i dont even know why i come here anymore lol
GryestOfBluSkies  +   862d ago
you come here for the fun of the ridiculous comments section
WeAreLegion  +   862d ago
I don't think anyone has fun in the N4G comments section. Not anymore.

We are limited in what we can say and how many things we can say. That's not very fun.
GryestOfBluSkies  +   862d ago
which is why i say its ridiculous. it was kinda tongue in cheek.
josephayal  +   862d ago
I'm still getting the PS4 over the X1
patsrule316  +   862d ago
Don't read the article people. The misleading headline alone makes the article deserved not to be read. If you want to know what he said, just read Mr. Dead's post in the comments. It covers the information in the article.
Funantic1  +   862d ago
I thought the games themselves are like Titanfall.
sigfredod  +   862d ago
Shut up and take my money already, i know you already have consoles finished, lol
Brix90  +   862d ago
This is the same article he say MS is smart for the way they handled there sitaution after E3 with all the negativity but I see that part was cut out. He doesn't even mention Xbox in this partt of the article.
ape007  +   862d ago
i think cloud dedicated servers will make X1's games more fun but nah both are good fun
abusador  +   862d ago
Microsoft gave the impression that all games would have dedicated servers but was never confirmed (and they are good at smoke and mirrors), later on they just stated that dedicated servers would be cheaper for devs so plz dont believe that hype.

Sony has been there and done that with most of their first party games having dedicated servers this gen like Starhawk, Warhawk, , Resistance mlb the show and many others but no one even noticed or batted an eye. Going into next gen already Ps4 first parties are being confirmed to have dedicated servers like Drive club, Killzone Sf already confirmed, etc....
ape007  +   862d ago
Hmmm... DICE and Volition's statements are smoke and mirrors too, Cod Ghosts using dedicated servers is smoke and mirrors too.
abusador  +   862d ago

hmmmmmmm Dice and Volition's never stated that ps4 wouldnt have dedictated servers on ps4 either. People like you make no sense. Have you played Bf3 on ps3 and Xbox? Both have dedictated servers lol Next time come with a better argument, smh. Point being Not one game announced for Xbone has been confirmed not to have dedictaed servers on Ps4. Not one Ps4 first party game has been confirmed to not have dedicated servers, actually they so far all do. SO whats my point? I guess i have to break it down to you because you seem a lil off. Ps4 games have been getting dedictaed servers too, so your comment is moot.

lol hahahahaha i still cant believe you used the Dice argument when Bf3 had dedictaed servers on ps3 too lol

Come on fanboy hmmmmm show me where COD ghosts wont have dedictaed servers on Ps4? I call your bluff.

Fanboys on this site come up with the weakest and dumbest arguments and basis for proving someone wrong.
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TechMech2  +   862d ago
Killzone Shadowfall doesn't have real dedicated servers. Overall. Xbox live has been the better choice for multiplayer gaming this gen, and is getting better next gen. Psnetwork is decent, but I've had many problems with it in the past. I'm going with Xbox one for the multiplayer aspects of the system. Ps4 will be better for people that enjoy Sony games, and generally anybody who doesn't like Halo. Both systems have pros and cons, but Xbox one appeals to me more.
SlavisH2  +   861d ago
kill zone sf doesnt have dedicated servers you read the headline not the article.
Software_Lover  +   862d ago
N4G is the ultimate bridge for trolls. Billy goats won't even come here for the grass
ZHZ90  +   862d ago
I don't know why the person who submitted this used this title.

Shuhei didn't mention "Xbox One" in his words.
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WeAreLegion  +   862d ago
Report the post for a misleading title.
pete007  +   862d ago
so you believe a camera connected is a threat? do you imagine how many people would be necessary to verify all uploaded contente just to find someone potentially dangerous? do you even know every time you type the words terrorism,bomb,massacre or try to download ilicit contente, your isp may or will give your IP to authorities, because they are engaged to by most governments. its all ridiculous those sony claims, and i surely should work for MSFT cause i would crush SONY on that
ShwankyShpanky  +   862d ago
Ever hear of these neat things called "computers?" They're getting pretty good at parsing sigint without much human interaction. Quantum computers are being put to this task as well.
obelix01  +   862d ago
Opinions, opinions, opinions ..
hankmoody  +   862d ago
I have yet to see one instance of a Kinect being used to spy on anyone. And for all of you worried about being spied on, what exactly are you doing that you're worried about? Cooking meth? Whacking off? Beating your wife/kids/dog/etc.?
Hicken  +   862d ago
Don't be an idiot. We get spied on just for searching the internet. If people- the government, or hackers, or whoever- wanted to spy on us using the Kinect, you bet your ass they'd do it.

Whether I'm doing something wrong or not, I'd rather not give anybody the chance to just view my bedroom or living whenever they wanted without my permission. ESPECIALLY in its original form, the XB1 was poised to allow just that; now that online connection is no longer mandatory, that's changed somewhat. SOMEWHAT.

But the company behind that idea is still backing that console, so it's not unreasonable to believe that what nearly happened could still come to pass.

So, instead, I'LL pass.
hankmoody  +   862d ago
No s**t we're getting spied on. I can't even go on a website without seeing ads for things I looked at on Amazon the day before. We're ALL being watched in some way, shape or form. I'm not saying it's an impossibility that it can happen with the Kinect but what the hell do I care if they want to watch me? Especially since I'm getting watched regardless? Anyone concerned about Kinect spy tactics should just chuck their smartphones if that's the case and get rid of their computers. But we all know THAT won't happen.
Hicken  +   862d ago
Ah, the smartphone defense.

You know why that doesn't work? Because it doesn't watch your whole room. No, I have nothing in particular to hide, but I'd prefer to minimize the invasions of privacy I go through.

I don't get this mentality that "Well, it's already happening, so what do I care if it happens some more?" That makes it okay?

People are committing crimes, so what does it matter if there's some new way to do it? Might as well just let it happen, right?

You can do things on your end to significantly lower the ability of third parties to track you when you use your computer, and even your smartphone, though to a lesser extent.

What can you do for your video game console?

Does it not strike you as more than just coincidence that the NSA issue, mandatory Kinect, and forced online DRM all happened at once? That they promoted the Kinect's ability to create targeted ads says they'd be spying on you, to some extent; that Microsoft preemptively handed over the keys to software to the NSA didn't look good as a follow-up(though I think that actually happened before, and we just found out later).

We can- kinda- say "Crisis Averted" since the online is no longer a requirement, but only just. Honestly, I'd rather not put myself in such a situation.

Once bitten, twice shy, as they say. Microsoft is gonna have to prove to me that they deserve my trust, and my money.
XboxFun  +   862d ago
"Microsoft is gonna have to prove to me that they deserve my trust, and my money."

MS will never prove anything to you because you are so adamant on denying everything they have to offer.

So please stop this stupid nonsense that you will ever get a Xbox One or a 360. I have seen you say you want MS to provide more exclusives to justify your purchase, they have, I have read from you that you don't want pay for online play, but now Sony has it so that excuse is gone. Now you have another excuse as to why you won't get a Xbox.

How many excuses do you need instead of just saying you are not interested in it. That would be the honest and more upstanding approach to go instead of spewing this bull everytime.
hankmoody  +   862d ago
Dude, it's obvious there's nothing that can be said much less done to help you gain trust in MS or to give them your money. Like XboxFun said, just say you're not interested, you'd come off as much less of a paranoid person.
JamieL  +   861d ago
@ hick
Damn man, I feel sorry for you. I don't know how your parents failed you so bad, but you are a site to see homie. If you put the effort behind anything that you put into hating MS on N4G, you'd be a success in whatever it was guaranteed. Why do you feel it’s up to you to let everyone know Sony’s better than MS? I mean why do you feel your opinion is SO important that you have to blast MS in every article, every day? I mean there is so much IMPORTANT bad stuff happing all over the world daily, but to you this is important enough to sink ALL your time into. Man this shit isn’t that big a deal, get out and look around you.
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DigitalRaptor  +   861d ago
The Kinect for the Xbone was originally a requirement. And you can't turn off the microphone, without turning off the Kinect. Now, ask yourself why, they did that in the first place?

If not for spying, then it's for data mining to basically make money at your expense. For instance, the Xbone Dashboard was built with advertising in mind. http://www.sticktwiddlers.c...

That's disturbing enough. Your console is no longer YOUR console, at least as far as Microsoft is concerned.

So basically, the anti-consumer measure behind Kinect was that it would listen to your speech to gather keywords to be able to customize advertisements on your dashboard, so Microsoft could make money from you whilst you viewed personalised adverts, no choice in it, but to unplug your camera.

This is still a reality, seeing as though Kinect is still going to be connected to your console. Who wants that in their house, and who wants to support a corporation that not only was planning to do that on a mass scale with a once forced peripheral, but are still doing that on a lesser scale?

Let's also not forget Microsoft's history of privacy invasion. Hint: it wasn't a one-off.
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Hicken  +   861d ago
I get that a lot. "You were never gonna get one, anyway." Funny thing is: it's always from some Microsoft fanboys who are super quick to point out how they have no interest in anything Sony.

Hm. Imagine that.

See, I was looking at the upcoming gen as a fresh start. Not quite a clean slate, but still a chance for everybody to pass or fail all over again. My problem with Microsoft has always been their greedy policies and willingness to shaft their customers for a profit.

When it came to the reveal of the XB1, I was hoping to see a refocused Microsoft. I didn't believe the rumors; I thought they'd come out swinging, heavy on the games, focused on the core. After all, literally everybody knew how stupid the company would have to be to go through with what those rumors stated... and then they did it.

And continued to do so.

And every time they got themselves a little bit of positive press, they did or said something negative to cancel that little bit of momentum out. I'm certainly willing to give MS my money if they show themselves to be heading down a path in gaming that I agree with. I don't have any problem doing that for any of the companies. But Microsoft fails at that.

You guys wanna support em? Do your thing. I choose to be a bit more careful with my money than that.

Edit: I'm amazed. How did you know what I was doing all gen? I've been on the site for just over two years, but you know what I've been doing all gen. Do you stalk me in real life like you do on this site?

Please, point to my comments "in the beginning of the PS3." Oh, shit. I wasn't around. I was playing my PS2 and PSP. Didn't have a PS3 until 2008. And when did I join this site? Hmm... your bullshit doesn't add up.

Oh, and I WAS interested, regardless of what you THINK. DO you think? Cuz your comments are so inane I feel compelled to ask that question.

Don't bother me, child.
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maniacmayhem  +   861d ago
I think you are missing the point that EVERYONE seems to be getting.

You where never interested in Xbox PERIOD.

You bad mouthed 360 this whole gen, you attacked anyone who said anything negative about Sony, and now you are attacking Xbox One.

Remember how Sony was getting a lot of bad press in the beginning of the PS3. You were in full defense mode then. Protecting them from anyone who said anything negative about sony. You also went so far as to blame all of media for Sony's woes.

But now, even with all the reversals that MS has done in order to correct their admitted mistakes, even after they have shown impressive and promising exclusives, even now that PS+ also requires a fee to play online, you are still on this ride that MS must still prove something to you.

Even after blown out stories like FCC report, huma and a low poly for Ryse that actually improved performance. You were right there bad mouthing MS and it's games. Even went as far as to call KI "paltry". (I can only imagine if someone said that about any Sony game how you would react)

You see how absolutely silly you sound and why the posters on top see right through you.

As I and many others before have said. You were never interested or intended to get a Xbox One. So stop that nonsense of asking MS to prove anything to you.
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xDHAV0K24x  +   862d ago
cool story bro
Convas  +   862d ago
I don't have to deal with anything. It's not my money you're spending.
gamer2013  +   862d ago
Nobody cares about games or online it seems, just powa! Even if that only means just a couple of extra frames or pixels.

I could understand the excitement if the differences in hardware capabilities were like comparing the PS4 to the 360 but it's not. Besides, the X1 arguably has the best line-up of games so far and MS has significantly improved it's already stellar online service while the PS4 is finally getting cross game chat.

Most gamers care about the games and online anyway because that is where the fun actually is.
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Gamer666  +   862d ago
There was nothing compelling in that article that made me want to jump to the new generation of consoles...

What would be better is if the would talk about graphical changes, AI capabilities, game engine capabilities, environment capabilities, and all the other aspects of games.
cell989  +   862d ago
try using an xbone for one month without a Gold Subscription see how much fun all those features are, exactly STFU
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PFFT  +   862d ago
Another Sony try hard article.
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Kran  +   862d ago
"Sony Explains..."


Shuhei Yoshida explains...

Don't take one guy and make him talk on behalf of all of Sony. There are many other guys in Sony.

I'm just saying :/
fsfsxii  +   861d ago
What is this?? Middle school arguements??
Kran  +   861d ago
No. Logical ones.

People do this with microsoft.




One guy from Microsoft said this and another guy from Microsoft said that.

That's how the confusion and the fights start.
fsfsxii  +   861d ago
Isn't that "guy" supposed to be representing the entire company??
Sounds like Sony is getting desperate again.
Themba76  +   861d ago
they are destroying M$ in preorders. how in the world is that desperate?
solidjun5  +   861d ago
Sounds like you're desperately trying to be thr biggest troll on the internet. Try harder.
beerzombie  +   862d ago
Game developers spy on you including Sony. That's just a fact. The know were you by gas and food, your legal drugs and you porn just about everything you do is known by anybody with money who wants to find out. They know how many times you hit a button on a controller to do something in a game. These privacy nuts who want to be left alone need to move to the woods and hide. And I'm not advocating this is right; that its just a fact of our digital life now.
MultiConsoleGamer  +   862d ago
Truly a worthy successor to Ken Kutaragi and all his smack talk.
urwifeminder  +   862d ago
I have never enjoyed you sony this will be no different you would not know what fun is.
Samus HD  +   861d ago
Get KILLER INSTINKT, than we'll talk
LordDhampire  +   861d ago
lol bad game is......bad
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