The game journalist who was humiliated at Eurogamer speaks out about how she faced further death threats and abuse from gamers even 72 hours after her story went public.
The world is filled with bigots.
I don't know why anyone would hit a "disagree" button on this post. You're obviously correct.
People suffering from gender identity disorder misgender themselves.
edit: let me simplify my rant: their is no reason you shouldnt speak up. youre not gonna get hate mail Or controversy everytime you speak up, only in this rare controversy that happens when you tweet your problems @americasbiggestcorporation on the World Wide Web and make such a big deal about it. imo. dont twitter your problems @americasbiggestcorporation on the World Wide Web. you did not know you would attract negitive people? well deaththreats come with the attention and comotion you foolishly brought on yourself, youll recieve them no matter who you are, people will recieve them just for complaining if they complain on the Web. youre not special. should have contacted MS privately. speak up in person, people actually have empathy in person. on the web, no one gives a crap its sad and cowardly. death threats come with most controversy, not by being transgendered. the hate comes after the fact and 98% of the time its gonna be discriminatory. this article makes it seem that if a transgendered speaks up they are always gonna get death threats. no, only in this kind of scenario, and in this kind of scenario, everyone is hated equally.
@Anthotis - If know nothing about the issue you are posting about, just keep it to yourself. This type of trash is not needed.
Because Dale started the hullabaloo by being offended that a barely transformed person could be mistaken as a male in a wig and escalating the incident. Then Dale said s/he didn't want public attention while simultaneously alerting press with a Tweet that basically said "I hope a big deal is made out of this in the media" and talking to press. It's Sarkeesian all over again. The sentiment isn't wrong; the execution is hypocritical. And then the media makes the center of the whole thing about death threats from a small minority of idiots and trolls. Any time one of these issues gets pushed with unjustified amounts of force, there's an equal and opposite reaction to it. That is why people would disagree that this is about bigotry.
@Anthotis and agreers - GID or Trangenderism happens in the womb, it is not a choice nor a disease(mental illness). Please get your facts straight before making such uneducated responses in the future.
My 3 maxims . Harm no one by action or inaction Be who you want to be And live as you wish to live. Saddly not enough people follow simple nicitys So shes tg meh fair enough no need to attack her over it And the presenter was in the wrong there. Post op tg in most civil8zed world are legally the sex they choose
I agree that it's shameful that this person was treated this way. That being said, I don't really feel this article really needs to be on this particular site. This story is now beyond the scope of Microsoft/Xbox One or video games. The people that are sending in death threats are not 'gamers', they're homophobes. I just don't think this is related to this site anymore. I am certain someone will disagree with me and say that it absolutely is related, but that is how I feel about it. I come here to read about news on video games, not to read stories that try to politicize video games.
Gamers can be homophobes too, or in this case transphobes.
There has to be a different word for that. I don't think people who oppose homosexuality or transgender sexuality are actually afraid of them.
I find the whole "phobia" thing ludicrous... Being scared of something and disapproving are two different things... Transphobia is a ridiculous word with a ridiculous meaning... that goes for all the other so-called phobias too.
yes, it is fear. Go to any comment section on the net about this topic. People feel threatened that society will crumble if gays get the right to marry. People feel that it will some how degrade their own marriage if gays get the right to marry. People feel that there is a gay 'agenda'...I am a homo and I don't even know what the 'agenda' is except looking for equality. It all boils down to fear. If you don't agree with homosexuality that is your right and voice, but people actively seeks to prevent the pursuit of happiness of others. It has ZERO affect on your life and pursuit of happiness, so why do you care so damn much? It is fear.
"Homophobes"? That's a word perpetrated by homosexuals to insult anyone who doesn't accept their "lifestyle" choice. Nobody fears homosexuals, we just don't agree with it and we're not going to have such a stupid agenda forced upon us to condition us to thinking "gay is normal/natural". It's a person's choice if they want to choose the "alternative lifestyle" but don't force everyone to accept it and insult those who don't, meanwhile trying to put it on the same level with the civil rights movement.
This story has changed from the beginning. The writer wrote Kotaku and said they regretted saying anything. Now they are writing about it today for the Huff Post. I don't care what sex they are - just sounds like an attention whore. It isn't like Microsoft or Xbox is responsible for a comedian. So i don't understand why this is such a big story
If he was at an event representing their company then yes they were responsible for his actions during that time. I think the matter was overblown a little bit as from what I read I don't think it was his intention to demean or embarass her but MS and the X1 division have to deal with the backlash.
"It isn't like Microsoft or Xbox is responsible for a comedian." they hired him, so yes, they are.
I think it is stupid. Should you pick on someone who thinks they are the opposite sex? No. I think they need help myself, personally. But one thing I am absolutely against, and you have to be a damn fool to even think it is ok, that is it is ok for a grown man, who thinks he is a woman trapped inside, to take a piss with my little girl in the same toilet room. I cant believe idiots think this is ok. It is not. Politically incorrect morons think this and should realize just how stupid they really are. If you don't want political views on this site .... don't allow them in the first place. End of line.
so what would happen if your little girl grew up and identified with being trans or gay?
If she is gay, then she is gay. As long she picks a somaon man to make my mighty grandchildren with I could care less. I would love to train them for football or girls softball, which ever one comes of course. If she ever came to me and said she was a man,I would tell her to look between her legs and make sure. Once she did I would tell her to quit being a dumbass.
Congratulations on getting the World's Most Insensitive Parent Award! If this theoretical situation were true, she'd grow to resent you, cut off communication, suffer severe depression and possibly commit suicide. Congratulations! It's all your doing because 'you' want grandchildren to play with. Forget what makes her happy and feel right.
yeah, I kinda figured that would be your answer. what a sad dad you are. I feel sorry for your daughter because she obviously doesn't get unconditional love from her dear ol' dad.
I see no need to attack her further, but I think the transgender community should understand the confusion folks have when trying to identify them in a non offensive manner. After all , chances are they grew up with trouble identifying themselves. I once saw a (male) dressed in a manner that straddled the line between transgender and flamboyant being questioned by the police. (There was no way to tell for sure if the person was gay, transgender or both)The officer very politely (yet obviously timid) asked 'would you prefer I call you ma'am or sir' and 'the person', visibly embarrassed responded 'call me whichever you like' In this case I used the phrase 'this person' because even after listening to the conversation, its still unclear which is the proper way to address. Long story short, if these people don't have a consensus on how to address themselves, how can the rest of the public even attempt to be politically correct? After reading the entire account of what happened, its very clear that the presenter just didnt know what to say.
Very well said. I also think this might have been what happened to the comedian. I would certainly go through those paces is it wasn't obvious to me what sex the person prefers to be called. I guess you should simply ask them, but given how sensitive transgenders seem to be over their sex, there's always the fear of bumbling it up (much like the example you gave.) I think the journalist should have spoken up there and then and insist the comedian refer to her as female, but obviously she was probably scared of some form of public backlash, much like the what she's received over the internet to her twitter post. I think it's a shame these internet trolls keep exploding into action with such intensity, but it also sounds like she's focusing on the negative comments rather then the people showing her support :P
It goes both ways. It doesn't take much to whip up a frenzy on that site and cause a mob to form.
Another person looking for 15 minutes of fame..... I'm black, live in the US (a semi rural area), and I don't use my race as an excuse for not getting certain things done or accomplished; I blame the uneducated, stupid racists, and to combat their behavior is education. Yes I've been on that "I hate everyone" side and the "Woe is me" phase however I also grew a pair and didn't let it bother me as I got older. You gain much more respect when you either pull someone to the side and talk about it in private, or show your the bigger person by not letting it bother you at all (sometimes even joking about it). No I'm not on some hate speech, and yes I do accept people as is, however no I do not accept people who can't at least stick up for themselves and rather cry about it. Grow up.
Thank you! Being insensitive is horrible, but so is using your race, gender, sexual preference, or religion as a crutch. I hate when people do that!
Comedian asks what is your gender to make sure he/she humiliates you properly, they get blasted. Comedian doesn't ask your gender, humiliates you by calling you male when you prefer female, they get blasted. Lose lose for comedian. They better stop the black jokes. And the Italian jokes. And the Jew jokes. How about we boycott all comedians who humiliate people?
"Either everything is ok, or nothing is."
Response from my transgender friend: "They have to learn to deal with it. People look at me weird, but I couldn't care less. It was a joke. The comedian doesn't hate this person. He was joking. It surprises me how many people can't tell the difference." I'm gonna go ahead and agree with him. Lol.
You can't possibly make everyone on the planet accept you if you are transgender, transexual, gay, bi, lesbian or anything not seen as part of the social norm. Demanding that you be treated with the same respect is your right. Not accepting it is someone elses right. It is 2013 and the race barrier still has not been shattered. If a white man still can't understand that a black man is equal, how in the hell does someone that is born a man, but believes they are a woman think that an issue as complex as theirs has a chance today? It's nice to feel we should all be understanding and tolerant/accepting, but it is ridiculous to demand it. You cannot force people to believe in something no matter how right you feel it is. If you are transanything and place yourself in the media, you better be prepared to have your feelings hurt. It's not nice, but it is reality.
I know a transgender person, and I find it hard to classify a gender for this person. He was born a he and wants to be a she, Well that is fine with me, I just don't want to call him a she, that's my only issue with it. I've known many Gays and Lesbians and have always gotten along well with them but with a transgender person I guess its harder to differentiate, what if I don't want to classify him as a she ?, dose he use the little boys room or the little lady's room ?(i'm not making fun here i'm serious) I've always found this to be very confusing personally. I feel bad for this guy but at the same time dose anyone HAVE to classify him as a she just because he wants to be ? I don't think so, and I mean no disrespect by it and I'm sure a lot of people would disagree with my feelings on this subject but I do think that things have been blown out of proportions.
Well, that's the other aspect to it. I also used to think I should refer to the sex the person is born with, but the way I see it now, if they want to be referred to as a male/female, then I will, it costs me nothing at the end of the day. But unless it's clearly obvious what sex they prefer or the tell you, how else would you know how to refer to them? I know it must sucks being referred to as "he" if you're or she or vice-verse, but the honest truth is it just isn't obvious with some transgenders.
I agree, My biggest problem with it is I just don't want to call him a she, but most likely if they made a big deal about it, or just to be polite I would call him a she, but no matter what I will always refer to this person as a he, but its a very awkward situation. Thinking about it I guess this person has a right to be upset but should also understand how confusing this can be for other people and in my experience this isn't a common thing.
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