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Sunset Overdrive isn't a timed Xbox One exclusive - "no need to beat the proverbial dead horse"

We've seen and heard little of Insomniac's Sunset Overdrive since the Xbox One exclusive's announcement at E3, which is rather disappointing for me personally - a world in which little is said about a game that looks like Crackdown's spiritual successor isn't a world I want to inhabit. Accordingly, I've just been on a jaunt round the developer's forum, and there are some asides from community web developer Tim Salvitti that you may be interested in.

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dirigiblebill997d ago

Sony owns the IP, doesn't it? Anybody know for how long they've got the rights to it?

Ezz2013997d ago (Edited 997d ago )

""as the IP is owned by Sony Computer Entertainment. ""

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

and
http://www.psu.com/a008321/...

blitz0623997d ago (Edited 997d ago )

Ratchet on the Xbox just sounds weird. I feel as if Insomniac is just bitter Sony bought Sucker Punch instead of them

The_Con-Sept997d ago

I don't think Xbox people would even bother with it. Especially since certain YouTube fanboys consider it a "kiddy game."

Solidrev for example.

WeAreLegion997d ago

In all fairness, Sucker Punch is a better developer.

P0werVR997d ago

It's just a silly title. No one expects that.

Either way, Sunset Overdrive looks real good.

Kran997d ago

Did you really just use wikipedia as a source? :/

Sevir997d ago

Sony owns the ratchet IP, but they say it may end up on Xbox, because Sony has sold Ips before, IE, Crash and Spyro.

In anycase Insomniac isn't bitter, theyve always wished to remain independent, Sony has approached them numerous occasions to acquire them and they've declined, so I don't think they care if Sony doesn't acquire them, they are considered Second Party World Wide Studios Partners, and they've made plenty exclusives for Sony and Still have a great relationship with Sony.

SilentNegotiator997d ago (Edited 997d ago )

@Kran

If you don't like those sources, pick up any Ratchet and Clank game and flip it over. I have Crack in Time in my hands right now:

"Ratchet and Clank is a registered trademark of Sony Computer Entertainment America Inc"

gaffyh997d ago

Ratchet will never go to Xbox, unless Sony decides to sell the franchise like they did with Crash. There's a possibility that the Ratchet movie might change things though, but can't see it going on Xbox unless Sony allows it.

Jeff257997d ago

@Sevir & gaffyh

Sony never owned the IPs for Spyro or Crash. They were developed under deals that Naughty Dog and Insomniac had with Universal. Universal owned those IPs hence the reason that Naughty Dog and Insomniac both went on to doing new IPs that were owned by Sony. ND got bought by Sony before they started J&D and Insomniac decided to stay independent but work with Sony acting as the Publisher.

Saigon997d ago

@blitz0623

If I am not mistaken, Sony offered Insomniac deals several times over to be apart of their organization and each time they were turned down. In honest, I am not certain where this bitter taste came from, but it is getting a little nerving. Seriously, they did a lot for Sony and Sony did a lot for them, so why the issue. In my opinion, I believe the issue is with Sony owning the rights to R&C and Insomniac does not want another company owning their products. And on that, there are suppose to a cartoon in the works/movie or something, and maybe Sony has more rights than Insomniac.

kickerz997d ago

Definitely getting Sunset Overdrive. Another great game heading to X1 :) come on nov 22

Kran997d ago

@SilentNegotiator

I never said he was wrong.

I just make a joke that he used wikipedia as a source

:/ that was all. Obviously no one got it. Even if it was bad.

ShwankyShpanky997d ago

"Definitely getting Sunset Overdrive. Another great game heading to X1"

So you've seen some actual gameplay footage, I assume? Care to link?

nukeitall997d ago

Ratchet could turn up on Xbox if Sony went the way of Sega (Mario and Sonic on Nintendo platform?) or MS bought up Sony.

It is possible, just unlikely.

kickerz997d ago

@wank and spank - all I needed was that e3 trailer and that was enough to tell me that this game will rock.

showtimefolks997d ago

Blitz0623

Sony tried buying insomniac but they didn't want to be bought so Sony moved on. Insomniac games have lost its magic over the last few games and really need to regain the top form soon

Whether insomniac likes it or not sooner rather than later they will be bought, this industry is becoming too big for smaller developers to exist without backing of a huge publisher

The con sept

Thing is when someone is exclusive than its no good to the other side but if there is a chance of the, getting it than its all forgotten and praised

Fanboys on both sides are bad for business, they yell the loudest even though they are in minorities but I losers listen to their feedback more because like I said earlier they shout the loudest

hellzsupernova997d ago

@blitz honestly if you knew anything you would know sony offered to buy insomniac games but Ted price wanted to stay independent. Your comment stinks of Sony fanboy.

OT ratchet and clank are not going anywhere Sony owns them.

Sunset overdrive looks cool and different hope it works out for them. I will not be playing it as I do not plan on buying the xbone

ShwankyShpanky996d ago (Edited 996d ago )

@kickerz:

Uh... that's stupid.

I thought the trailer for The Order: 1886 looked pretty damn slick (you know, the one that said "rendered with in-game engine"), but at the end I thought, "Nice... now show me some gameplay," not "totally gotta get that!"

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Aceman18997d ago

everyone knows Sony owns the IP so this franchise will not be showing up on any other platform unless IG buys the rights back from Sony.

malokevi997d ago

He literally said "anything can happen" before diving into the statement. I read people here interpreting that as "Ratchet and Clank might come to Xbox".... and even more ridiculously, some sort of nuanced confirmation that Sunset Overdrive is headed to PS4.

You people are messed in the head. What he's saying is obvious. For now, R&C is a Playstation exclusive, and Sunset is an Xbox exclusive... but there is no man or woman alive that can guarantee this dichotomy forever. He's merely saying "never say never"... and you all blow it way out of proportion.

Typical.

SilentNegotiator997d ago (Edited 997d ago )

"Ratchet could" and "Ratchet Might" are exactly the same for its intents and purposes. Either statement represents a ridiculous unlikelihood. This isn't 1999 anymore; Sony isn't going to let big exclusive IPs slip through their hands.

Employing Quantum physics logic doesn't justify saying anything.

malokevi997d ago

exactly... could... "never say never".... same crap. I'm not saying that R&C has any likelyhood of ever coming to playstation, I'm saying that THE DEVELOPER says that nothing is impossible.

You ppl are way to sensitive. I don't give 2 craps about exclusives, because I'm getting both consoles. Oh the joys of not limiting yourself to a single console because you feel some misguided need to lambast the alternative at every opportunity.

SilentNegotiator997d ago (Edited 997d ago )

What are you so riled up over?
What do you mean "you ppl"?

I'm aware that we're talking about what the developer said. And what they said is downright ridiculous. It's not "impossible" for Nintendo to sell Mario, but it isn't going to happen.

malokevi997d ago

Yes but waht I said about what he said is still true, regardless of whether or not its actually going to happen. Nothing is impossible, thats it, no argument, stop talking to me.

Aceman18997d ago

@mal

Listen my statement wasn't made out of angry or whatever you think it is, it was made to let people know who seem to still be confused about whether or not its own by Sony.

Where the hell are you getting this "you people" from?

Outside_ofthe_Box997d ago (Edited 997d ago )

lol How come whenever someone makes a comment that slightly goes against what Malokevi states he gets all upset and goes on a rant about how people are over sensitive and that they should leave him alone lol?

Malokevi, what's really funny is that person you replied to, Aceman18, actually acknowledged that the franchisee could end up on other platforms if someone buys the rights from Sony. So he actually stated that it is possible for Ratchet to end up on another platform, yet you STILL felt the need make a comment about how people are messed up in head and are blowing it out of proportion when in fact no one is...

Everyone knows that anything can happen, nobody is denying that. You need to relax.

-- Edit @ below --

***"and yet we're still having this discussion..."***

lol How? Who's arguing AGAINST the claim that "anything thing can happen" "never say never" "nothing is impossible"?

No one is...

malokevi997d ago

and yet we're still having this discussion...

SilentNegotiator997d ago

@Malokevi

I'm saying this as an earnest person to person; you need to stop and evaluate this situation.

Aceman18 said that it could happen if someone bought the rights from Sony. You responded by suggesting that he "blew it way out of proportion" and calling him "messed up in the head"

I suggested that the likelihood was so slim that it wasn't worth Insomniac even saying. You responded by going into a tirade about not caring about exclusivity.

I clarified my comment and you hammered in your irreverent point that no one was arguing against and then stuck your head in the sand to further conversation.

You are being too sensitive.

MELMAN26997d ago

This may be true, but why is everyone so obsessed, with the xbones exclusives? Are people not happy with what Sony is offering?

solidjun5997d ago

"You ppl are way to sensitive..."

You later then said: "Nothing is impossible, thats it, no argument, stop talking to me."

Irony. Who's sensitive? You're getting riled up for something that doesn't affect your life.

Kryptix997d ago

lol

Damn, malokevi got pwned left and right.

Aceman put in the possibility of it going to the Xbox if Insomniac bought the rights back and here you got malokevi going apeshit for no reason.

This guy...

...so sensitive I bet he watches soap operas and gets heart broken with mommy.

extermin8or997d ago

The difference is Sunset is more likely to come to ps4 as don't Insomniac own the rights to it themselves? All they'd need is for EA or Sony to publish it as MS certainly wont publish it on the ps4. Whereas Ratchet and Resistance would require sony to sell the IP's first, something they've not done since the Crash and Spyro days- I believe maybe they learned from their mistake? Although really since insomniac went on this multiplatform vendetta their games have gone downhill even the exclusive ones. Resistance 2 wasn't the best but it was good, resistance 3 and crack in time were both awesome then after that it's just been a downhill slide.... Maybe into nexus can help redeem them but I'm doubtful.

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alejandroelputo997d ago

I am really sad, insomniac was my favorite developer at a time. Now they are just a pile of shit trying to get successful as naughty dog is. They went multiplataform to get more fans and money, ND has way more fans staying exclusive. I just want Insomniac to go back and stop making mistakes like going multi, working with EA, and now they working with M$ -_- seriously WTF! They have pissed me off, Sony is a great partnet, when do you see studios leaving sony? That is right, studios love sony, now look at M$ when studios like bioware, bungie, hell even epic games have stopped working exclusive with micro$oft. Rare went to shit. Like fukking come on Insomniac, open your eyes and go back to what make gamers love you.

3-4-5997d ago

Sunset Overdrive actually looks pretty fun.

irokster997d ago

To each his own I guess. I think that game looks goofy as hell.

Faztkiller997d ago (Edited 997d ago )

Guess I wont be playing it then :( insomniac is one of my Favorite developers but I am probably not going to get an Xbox One and if I do it will be so late into the life cycle that I won't be interested. Hope they make some PS4 or atleast multiplatform games this coming generation

Edit. Sorry didn't mean to reply to a comment

itBourne997d ago

WTF did no one read the article, also the journalist should be ashamed. Talk about blowing up a whole lot of nothing.

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NatureOfLogic997d ago

Insomniac is still trolling Sony I see.

king_george997d ago

Lol that made me actually laugh a little

Funny +1 :)

ALLWRONG997d ago

"Insomniac is still trolling Sony I see."

In other words "I hate Insomniac because they went multiplatform"

showtimefolks997d ago

No in their words their last few games have sucked and they miss Sony. Sony offered them to be bought but they stay independent and more power to them but now it's time to move on

Insomniac till resistance 3 were awesome but all 4 one,fuse and that other ratchet games have all been mediocre. Time for insomniac to regain its form as a top development house. But as of now they are not even in top 20

Chevalier997d ago

To be fair Fuse sucked pretty hard so yeah if they continue the way they do then multiplatform or not garbage games are terrible anyway you slice it. So yeah I'll start caring about Insomniac releases something amazing.

refocusedman997d ago

Honestly who really cares. Insomniac has not been the same for quite some time. The resistance games were great but, its all been downhill since R3.

noctis_lumia997d ago

true

i dont expect nexus to be good
they went downhill after RES2

ShinMaster997d ago

Hey R&C: ACiT was excellent!

Hellsvacancy997d ago (Edited 997d ago )

I didn't even like the Resistance games personally, played all 3, only completed the first though (my trophy list will show that) and i'm not a big fan of R&C, bought one thinking my daughter would like it, and she didn't

Insomniac should bring back the early Spyro, that would make me one HAPPY gamer

lodossrage997d ago

@ Hellsvacancy,

Not to call you a liar or anything. But I have to call foul on your comment man.

How can you have a trophy list show that you've played Resistance 1 when Resistance 1 was NEVER patched for trophies?

Snookies12997d ago

@lodossrage - I believe he was saying you can look at his Resistance 2/3 trophies to see he hadn't finished those. :]

Hellsvacancy997d ago (Edited 997d ago )

Forgive me for leaving out that minor detail, I did finish it though, it was one of very few PS3 games I had at the time, it wasn't all that bad, I liked the big look it had, BIG cables and pipes etc

But Resistance 2/3? no, I got bored too quick, moved on to other games

lodossrage997d ago

@Hellsvacancy

Ah ok, in that case I'm sorry and stand corrected

princejb134997d ago

Agree I didn't like the resistance game much. Bought 1 and 2 and got boring quick. However I love the ratchet and clank games. Had many fun times with those.
Even though I'm not buying a xbox. im looking forward to see how sunset overdrive comes out

cell989997d ago

you are a big liar sir, the first game doesnt even support trophies -__- why even troll like that sigh....

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soljah997d ago

insomniac lol a developer that is one flop away from bankruptcy.
and to think at one time they were right up there with naughty dog and ssm

Ron_Danger997d ago

I would say they were up there with SSM and Naughty Dog in the PS2 days, but still below them. I completely forgot this until I played the Ratchet and Clank HD games, but Naughty Dog created the game engine of the Ratchet and Clank series for Insomniac.

cell989997d ago

I wouldnt say bankruptcy especially now that they got support from Microsoft, but for their own sake, Overdrive better sell well. Had they picked PS4 as their platfomr of choice, I think this time around their games would sell better because the PS4 has mad hype and support right now. I still thank Insomniac for all the awesome things theyve done for us gamers, heres to hoping they one day return to their former glory. Ill be waiting for them on my PS4

XtraTrstrL997d ago

That's what I was thinking.

KwietStorm997d ago

Seriously what has happened to them?

OrangePowerz997d ago

I liked R3 actually, the Rachet games went downhill after the great Crack in Time. I still have hope for Nexus to be a good R&C game again.

As for Sunset Overdrive I reserve my judgement for now as Insomniac his very hit and miss with games that are not platformers.

tehpees3997d ago

Insomniac is just another example of a company leaving a platform and going downhill after.

See Rare, Sega and SK for other examples.

Companies should stick by their own platforms. I think Insomniac has been foolish to turn Sony down just for freedom.

creatchee997d ago

@tehpees3

So Rare should still be developing for Nintendo 64? I haven't seen that console on NPD in a while. Is it Japan exclusive now? I love my Dreamcast too but Sega hasn't given me a game for it in years. What gives???

tehpees3997d ago

I'm saying that Rare should have stuck with Nintendo and Insomniac should have stuck with Sony. As people below pointed out Insomniac went from being critically acclaimed to many reviews of mid 70 scores and that came from the release of Fuse.

I bring up the point frequently yet many people don't consider it. Companies like that are better off in their own barns and staying there.

cell989997d ago

I still have hopes that once Insomniac sees the great success the PS4 is bound for, that they change their stance and go Sony exclusive again, I miss that dev, used to be one of my favs

ALLWRONG997d ago

Most of the comments above are more or less just hate because Insomniac went multiplatform. There is only one fanbase who does that.

LetoAtreides82997d ago

Shinmaster, A Crack In Time was good but I like Tools Of Destruction better, I was actually a bit disappointed in ACiT.