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Submitted by Abriael 280d ago | news

Shuhei Yoshida Gives More Info on The Last Guardian, Blames Jack Tretton for Misleading Everyone

A couple weeks ago Shuhei Yoshida confirmed that The Last Guardian is still in development, and today he gave more info on what’s up with the game, mentioning that Fumito Ueda is still at work on it and that the game is being "re-engineered". He also blames Jack Tretton for misleading people into believing the game was put on hiatus. (PS3, PS4, Shuhei Yoshida, The Last Guardian)

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IRetrouk  +   280d ago
This game reminds me of ico, too much for the console its planned on so its been moved onto more powerfull hardware, still looking forward to this game as ico and sotc are two of the best games i have ever played.
Peppino7  +   280d ago
Hey!!!!! Nobody blames Jack for anything!
abzdine  +   280d ago
i hope the game will be on time for Japanese release. definitely a system seller, especially how gorgeous it would look on PS4.
stevehyphen  +   280d ago
Jack Tretton on stage:

"Now, for a bit of news on our upcoming Japan studio game, The Last Guardian; the long awaited game from the acclaimed makers of Ico and Shadow Of The Colossus."

Drops the mic and leaves stage.
Mustang300C2012  +   280d ago
Please stop making claims this game is a system seller. The last game wasn't a system seller. It was a popular niche game.
nypifisel  +   280d ago
@Mustang

It's not about being a "cod" or any game like that, it's about being a marvellous never seen before game. Something that stand out and is a fantastic game nothing like anything else. That's why TLG is so revered and awaited for. Brown Shooter 37 just doesn't cut it for people any more!
mikeslemonade  +   280d ago
Things get lost in translation and I think that's what happened.
admiralvic  +   280d ago
@ Mustang300C2012

Sadly, every popular game that a small niche group wants will be called a "system seller" till it proves not to be. Way way way back in the day they also called Resistance Burning Skies and Call of Duty Black Ops Declassified system sellers, so this is nothing new. Also anything can in theory be a system seller, till it proves not to be one.

@ Nypifisel

TLG is regarded so highly because people enjoyed ICO and SOTC, which they assume TLG will match or exceed. However, being a unique take or super original game a "system seller" does not make. In either case, it's all about sales (as you can't be a system seller if you don't literally move systems...), which is something I don't expect TLG will be. It might be good, it might redefine everything, it might be the best thing ever made, but I don't see it passing 2 million in sales or motivating most people to get a system like Kingdom Hearts 3 or Uncharted 4 would.

Just something else to consider... here are the sales according to VG charts. Not the most accurate, but a good starting point for sales without doing a lot of work.

SOTC - 1.14 million (half were the US)
ICO - 470,000 (almost half were the US)
Collection - 1 million (rounded up, half were US)
SilentNegotiator  +   280d ago
They didn't really NEED Jack for people to think that.

The game has only been in development since 2007.
_QQ_  +   280d ago
@mustang, its a system seller for me.
UltimateMaster  +   280d ago
Shuhei didn't really blame Jack Tretton in the article.
He just said that he was misinterpreted.

If he had blamed him, that would have been poor leadership.
Hitman0769  +   279d ago
@nypifisel false. vocal minority does not equal sales majority.
Hitman0769  +   279d ago
@SilentNegotiator yup, my thoughts exactly.
WitWolfy  +   280d ago
Well the creator did state this game is a mix between both ICO and SOTC.
ATi_Elite  +   280d ago
I'm happy to see The Last Guardian move to the PS4. TLG is really gonna push the PS4 and we can expect the Graphics to look better than the already fantastic screenshots of the PS3 version.
dmitrijs88  +   280d ago
This game will be absolute killer-app and a must-have, the question remains - which platforms will it be on - PS3 or PS4?
andibandit  +   280d ago
PS7
oof46  +   280d ago
Delayed or not, on ps3 or ps4, I still believe this point stands: http://www.eldesafiodigital...
Cryptcuzz  +   280d ago
What if the game is about the boy being locked up for whatever reason, grows a bond with the "gryphon" as their survival depends on one another. Then they grow up together and become much stronger (especially the gryphon) and ultimately saving the world with both surviving!

I'd still play that as the gameplay would revolve around the growing bond between the two.

Ico - Emotional bond with the girl for being both locked up, needing each other to survive, advance and escape from the castle.

SOTC - Emotional connection to the majestic colossus despite having to kill them to save the girl.

Last Guardian: Place your bets here guys.
esemce  +   280d ago
Yeah I'm sure being on the PS4 will be better in the long run, it's been a long wait but I trust team ICO to deliver especially now they have more power to work with.
Bundi  +   280d ago
Wait until the VGA's right guys?
Abriael  +   280d ago
For this one I can wait even longer as long as it's good and it's not just a port to the PS4, but really fully "re-engineered" as yoshida says, to be a full fledged PS4 title.
Bundi  +   280d ago
Who knows what re-engineer means in this case? Could very well be a vita game now for all we know. Alas, the waiting game continues.

Honestly m just tired of Pedro/pogov77 sending me PS3 exclusive lists for the coming year and seeing TLG in it every year since he started doing that.
At least he has stopped using VS XIII
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Kryptix  +   280d ago
@Bundi

LOL
A PS3 game turned into a Vita game exclusively...ok, now I know you're just spewing idiotic comments. First of all, why would they show it to the PS3 audience then downscale it for a much smaller audience. (the Vita didn't exist back then in 2009) Think logically next time...

It's originally a PS3 title so re-engineering it means that it can only get better than the original design. Either the engine got changed and it's going to look much better than what we already saw on the trailer, they pushed it for the PS4, or they're making a PS4 version that goes along with the PS3 version. I doubt they'll make a Vita version now that you'll be able to remote play PS4 games into the Vita.

It's been over 6 years since the start of development and according to Shuhei, the game was never on "hiatus" as in the team has been constantly working on the game. I'm more led to believe that a PS4 version is in the works with the long wait time.

Well, the fact that Shuhei brought up The Last Guardian and confirming it's still in development is a good sign that we'll be seeing more of it really soon.
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Mustang300C2012  +   280d ago
No one thought it would be 8 years later and people are still waiting on the game. Why would it be shocking now if it was a Vita title.
LoveOfTheGame  +   280d ago
@Kryptix
The PS4 also didn't exist in 2009, mind = blown.

Also, I don't think you know what re-engineering means. If it was moved to any different system it would have to be re-engineered, including the Vita.

I want a full scale TLG, but having it portable also makes me kind of giddy.
Kryptix  +   279d ago
@LoveofTheGame

http://www.ign.com/articles...

"Lead system architect on the PlayStation 4, Mark Cerny, said "the development of a next-gen platform started about five years ago""

Sorry for proving you wrong.

2013 - 5 = 2008

...just in case you don't know basic math and come back with the same comment.
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JimmyLmao  +   280d ago
I have a feeling that Sony is going to have a massive conference sometime at the end of this year/beginning of next year... and if they do, the bar will be set so high, because they have so much secrets that they are keeping, it's not fair. 9 unannounced first-party PS4 games for 2014 =( and then all the third-party exclusive stuff
JoGam  +   280d ago
Oh its very fair. ;-)
Bundi  +   280d ago
I don't buy consoles for unannounced games, I buy them for games I know are coming and have real release dates. Otherwise you buy a console to play FFVS13. . .

If it wasn't for Forza 5, I wouldn't even be concerned about going Xbox One. So far on the PS side, no games warrant an upgrade from my PS3 to PS4 just yet in my opinion.

Announced games with solid release dates > unannounced games, any time.
Hicken  +   280d ago
Man, I'm so glad that you're already out of bubbles by the time I'm getting around to commenting. I don't think I could take more of your ignorant "stealth" trolling.

Re-engineering the game could really only refer to the game being redone for PS4. Yeah, sure, they COULD be making it for the Vita, but even your feeble mind must understand how unlikely that is.

"I don't buy consoles for unannounced games."

Good for you, but we don't give a damn why YOU buy. Many- if not most- of us buy consoles for games we know are coming out, whether they have a release date or not. We buy games because we know the developers that will be making the games.

That must be a hard concept, with you being such a Microsoft fanboy. But us people with good sense know the PS4's got some stellar developers working on it, so whether their game has been announced or not, we look forward to it.

If only there was a way to prevent people like you from spreading your BS all over the site...
Mikefizzled  +   280d ago
We have already seen the mess contradictory claims leaves you in, Microsoft, so please Sony keep things straight.
Bundi  +   280d ago
I was wondering how this could be spun into a negative...for Microsoft, you managed in one sentence. *applause*
KonsoruMasuta  +   280d ago
Shhhhhh..... What's that sound?

http://t2.gstatic.com/image...
kewlkat007  +   280d ago
yup, He did it...
Mikefizzled  +   280d ago
But I'm a diehard MS fan? It was just embarrassing to watch the MS PR team screw themselves over time after time.
Bundi  +   280d ago
I'm sorry did I accuse you of not being a Microsoft fan? No I was simply wondering how TLG being in production still could be turned into a bad thing for Microsoft and you came to my aid.
Kryptix  +   280d ago
@Bundi

"No I was simply wondering how TLG being in production still could be turned into a bad thing for Microsoft and you came to my aid."

How can mentioning the past be a bad thing against Microsoft if it has already been done. lol

All he was doing is giving an example of past contradictions with Microsoft (Ryse originally confirmed as 1080p native then later on it's actually 900p native for example) and hopes that Sony doesn't do the same thing with The Last Guardian. He might be a diehard MS fan but that doesn't mean that he shouldn't also respect Sony in some way. He could prefer gaming on Xbox and own a PS3 on the side interested and waiting for this game to release. If Sony is contradicting themselves here, that means we might never see the game and a lot of us don't want that. Like me, I'm more of a Sony fan but definitely can't wait to see how the next Gears of War would look on the Xbox One. It's not the games that I don't like, it's how Microsoft handles their console and consumers.
Mikefizzled  +   280d ago
Good lord. Kryptix you're a gent, not only did you accurately depict my current situation and respect for Sony but you also suggested and accepted its 'OK' to like both consoles.
Kryptix  +   279d ago
@Mikefizzeled

Hey, man, no problem. I prefer Sony's way of doing things at the moment but before people say I'm a hardcore Sony fan, I also do own an Xbox 360 and had an original Xbox back in the day. I didn't get a PS3 till late 2009 because of many reasons with Sony's reveal and presentation.

But the tables are new and different now and Microsoft needs to fix up their act completely. That's why I'm getting a PS4 first because of better reliability, not just the exclusives, and still thinking if my next console will be the Xbox One or Valve's new console.

At the end though, I'll most likely own all the consoles next generation even if it takes 5-7 years to get the last one. The way I see it, it's not the game developers at fault, it's more of the console makers for not being professional and more prepared.
Bolts  +   280d ago
This game managed to miss an entire generation, so it doesn't look good. Just cancel it and move on.
JoGam  +   280d ago
Just cancel the game because "You" said so and ignor all the people who are waiting to play it? Ummmm you might be on to something. S/
Sharius  +   280d ago
"this generation" isn\t finish yet, atleast in PS3 case
2cents  +   280d ago
Did you play ico and shadow of the colossus? If you did play them through to the end you'll know how unique they are in an ocean of mediocrity.

The last guardian deservese nothing less than the light of day, the people behind team ICO are some of the most talented individuals that gaming has ever seen.
Cryptcuzz  +   280d ago
With the head of Sony Santa Monica now the head of Japan Studios, I am convince his technical know-how will aid in the Last Guardian's development. I believe it was stated that originally TLG had technical problems in envisioning how they wanted to create the game.
HarryMasonHerpderp  +   280d ago
There is still hope!
andibandit  +   280d ago
Thats what we said about duke nukem, what a waste of time that was
DonMingos  +   280d ago
Yeah. And we said the same about Alan Wake, Red Dead Redemption and GT5. Were they a waste off time?
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WitWolfy  +   280d ago
TGS after TGS for years fans have waited and hoped it will be shown or just be mentioned, but never was... Now its another DNF referred as title...
Minato-Namikaze  +   280d ago
DNF was in development for 14 years though.......
pabadamus1  +   280d ago
I gave up the ghost a while ago. I've stopped giving 2 sh!ts for some time now. I wish they would show us some sort of tangible evidence outside of promises.
Big_B0SS  +   280d ago
To be fair they showed more than Agent and Half Life Ep 3.

All we got for Agent was a dam name :(
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pabadamus1  +   280d ago
Ha ha. Agent...you are right. That thing is as invisible as a fart in a tornado. I've just been burned too many times by TLG. I REALLY WANTED THAT GAME! If it ever makes the light of day, great. Aside from that I got off the enthusiasm/disappointment roller coaster a while ago.
awesomeperson  +   279d ago
Actually I remember seeing 4 screenshots for Agent a long while ago. I believe it was an ex-Rockstar environmental artist or something who put them on their publicly-accessible profile. Hazy on those details, it was a long time ago.

So we got a title, and some screenshots :P
WeAreLegion  +   280d ago
Lol. His comment about Jack was in a joking manor.
Abriael  +   280d ago
Was it? Seems pretty serious to me. Tretton's comment was misleading, and Yoshida said just that.
chrissx  +   280d ago
There is always hope. Someday I will slot in my TheLastGuardian cd in2 my console
2cents  +   280d ago
Ico and the shadow of the colossus are in my top 10 games of all time, the last guardian has me completely entranced. It feels like a lifetime since it was announced, but I believe that the wait will be worth it.

The real world will cease to exist for me when this gem is released.
Thankyou Ueda-san, for your amazing contributions to gaming.
BABY-JEDI  +   280d ago
TLG FTW... Hopefully.
Agent_hitman  +   280d ago
I hope that Shuhei and Jack are still friends :)
Abriael  +   280d ago
Lol, I'm sure they are, and that Yoshi still has Jack's picture on his desk.
JackVagina  +   280d ago
One day at some conference we will see a black screen, then the studio japan logo followed by the beautiful soundtrack and everyone will scream and cheer and then we will see a gorgeous trailer followed by a release date.

It will happen!
Destrania  +   280d ago
I'm still incredibly excited for this game. I'm certain production was transferred to PS4 quite a while ago as well.
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Bathyj  +   280d ago
After a TGS no show I said I would give up all hope for this game. But then Shu came out and said it's still on. Rengineered, that's the clearest indication yet that is coming to ps4 and they're just not ready to officially announce it.

While I don't think it will launch with the Japanese launch, that would be wishful thinking,I think a last guardian rebirth announcement on ps4 just before launch will drive anticipation to fever pitch. It seems like the sensible move and I truly believe it's back on. I'm falling in love all over again.

Still my most wanted game since it was very first announced.
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ZBlacktt  +   280d ago
7,8 years later.... a new console has even come and still waiting.
SlyFamous02  +   280d ago
So whats the story here. Is it still for the PS3 or has moved to the PS4?
DEATHxTHExKIDx  +   280d ago
Its probably being moved to PS4. I only assume that cause FFXV missed out on this gen also and, got moved to next gen PS4/X1.
ssj27  +   280d ago
The history here is that lile we knew, but some misinterpreted wrong.. the game is still in development.

We nee the game was to much for the PS3 to handle, we knew that other sony studios genius came into play to help on finishing the game and that ueda is still part of it but working as a free lancer and this confirm all of it and it's great news!!!
Since this game is one of a kind, it does not sales millions like COD or GTA but is as well known by the hardcore community.

This will come out in two or 3 years from now.. and they will show it once it has a release date a year or less by the time is showed again.
isarai  +   280d ago
Pretty damn obvious it's going for PS4 now, if it weren't there wouldn't be the need to keep it's target platform a secret, ans "re-engineering" is a pretty dead giveaway. i'm going to explode with excitement when they "re-introduce" this lovely game
SmokingMonkey  +   280d ago
Day 1 for me, Whenever.
cell989  +   280d ago
great!! at least we now know its in development
corvusmd  +   280d ago
Ahh Sony lies again...we can never believe them!!! Another Sony 180!! ...Wait, what? We still can't say anything bad about Sony? Only MS? Hmmm...I wonder when we'll stop being hypocrites? NM, I won't be back to this blog...it'll just be whiny PS Fanboy nonsense anyway.
darkvenom  +   280d ago
you hate sony and yet you come into a sony article?
01animeking  +   280d ago
when this game was announced i didn't really care tbh but then this year i picked up ico/shadow of the colossus and i love those game i hope they come out with last gaurdian soon
Misaka_x_Touma  +   280d ago
They should fire Tretton. He lied about those 70+ psp games and many things. Having someone else would help Sony of America.
LoveSpuds  +   280d ago
I still have this on Pre Order from 2009 at £35, I hope I still get it for that price :)
Ch1d0r1  +   280d ago
"Re-engineering" Pulling levers up, down, left, right to produce a PS4 version. Would love to see a PS4 version instead...
mjra562  +   279d ago
kevin butler...why have you forsaken us

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