According to PS3 users that have MGO Premier Beta installed, the resolution is 1080P according to TV display settings. This is not a "forced" 1080P where 720P is unchecked in XMB but rather default display setting.
Only PLAYSTATION® 3 has the capabilities to run in true high definition resolutions at it's native 1080p structure. Dark Sniper is glad he made the right choice in ensuring he gets the best online experience at a price-friendly range. $niper
purchase a PS3 because it is the best choice for your dollar. (I'm implying xbots are stupid because they bought a 360lol)
Tell that to the 1080p native games on the 360 Dark fishhead. I see you are back to spread your lies.
Lol there is no such thing as native 1080p on Xbox 1.5 dumbshit Ahah hilarious, it is all upscaled, get the hell out.
@Crabman what? Virtua Tennis 3, Fifa Street 3 and Table Tennis big success @ambientFLIER i didnt say the 360 couldnt do 1080p native the point is that the only games that do that are the games i mentioned above the only good game out of those 3 is Virtua Tennis i know 360 fanboys like to argue EVERYTHING, but you have to amdit- its kinda hard to argue that the PS3 has a better selection of native 1080p sofware Ridge Racer 7, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, GT5:p and all the PSN games
There are a few native 1080p games on the 360 that are not upscaled. Try harder, moron. The point is not how many games there are, but the fact that it can do it...while ps3 idiots are claiming that it can't for some reason with no proof.
hmm, considering fifa street 3, table tennis and virtua tennis don't really push the system, so probably the 360 is just about capable of using 1080p native for them games, but not intense games that REALLY pushes both systems, the ps3 is the only one that's capable of doing it 1080p native. That latest Haze screenshot was at 1920 x 1080, so 1080p ftw? @GiantEnemyCrab "It's up to the devs to make 1080p native game but the 360 can and does do it" Then explain why Halo 3 is at 640p, it was purely optimized for the 360 and Bungie was a then 1st party developer for Microsoft!
Virtua Tennis 3, Fifa Street 3 and Table Tennis, AmbientFlier you sure are a dumb ḟuck. Alot of Xbox 1.5. games say 1080p on the back how many of them actually are? Lol like none, Halo 3 was what again oh thats right 640p, it's upscaled buddy get your head our your ass. Unlike what is happening on the Xbox 360 game boxes, Sony doesn’t advertise 1080p on the back of game boxes unless it is a truly native 1080p title. To be fair though GOTY CoD4 is only 600p for both systems upscaled 720p.
This guy says the 360 can't run 1080p native games and I correct him and you know I'm right. Now you want to argue semantics? What you feel isn't a graphic intensive blah blah blah. It's up to the devs to make 1080p native game but the 360 can and does do it.
Isn't it sad fishhead when Halo 3 is in 640p, upscaled? Microsofts flagship title isn't even true HD, pathetic.
Not as sad as all those games running so much worse on the more powerful PS3 than the Xbox 360. You were proven wrong, so you must bash something else now to retain your dignity. Lol. ZOMG HALO 640PPPPP POS3 RULLZ
This is great news. We can expect the full game to be 1080p as well. SWEET! I'm about to confirm it right now. EDIT - Yup confirmed. 1080p glory
yeah, ive known this since i dl it..... tv tells me what im resolution ANYTHING is being displayed at, and i was stoked to see 1080p in the corner when i started this baby up!!!!
But is the 1080p upscaled, or is it true native 1080p? It might just be 720p or 960x1080 resolution upscaled to 1080p output, which is not the same thing. People at Beyond3D need to start counting the pixels of this game to find out if it's truly running in full 1080p (which I kind of doubt, because there are only a handful of games that run in that resolution on the PS3).
I hate to be the party pooper but that's who I am. It might very well be that the menu runs at 1080p and the game doesn't. I do hope that it's true though.
I know this is off topic but, does anyone still need an MGO beta key? Pm me and it's yours.
i said this days ago
Yea its true seen it wit ma own eyeeez Looks like MGS4 may actually run at 1080p and 60fps. If its going to be 60 it better be steady as hell. Don't want it changing back and forth from 60 to 30 either just pick one and make it rock solid
The PS3 doesn't really force upscale a PS3 game like a PS2 game. It does, but it's forced by the developer and it's not a firmware upscaling. There's many games that say 1080p on the box, but are later figured out that the game is upscaled...like in the instances COD4 and Halo 3. There's a way to figure out the native resolution, but just because your TV says 1080p doesn't mean it really runs at that resolution natively. You can uncheck 720p, but if your TV is 1080p capable it'll run at that resolution, even if 1080p isn't unchecked. But that's cool you can run it at 1080p, it would be cool if it was the game's real resolution also.
Yeah this game may be 960x1080p native resolution but then it doubles pixels in the horizontal direction to achieve 1920x1080p. This is how Gran Turismo 5 Prologue achieves 1920x1080p with 60fps. Keep in mind that PS3 has a confirmed horizontal upscaler. This is an achievement nonetheless because 960x1080p is 15% higher resolution than native 720P.
Well i really don't care for 1080p. I'm cool with it running at 720p. As long as it isn't 640p:p
If no one has pixel counted it, then you cant really take it as 1080p. Not that it matters, because right now you think its 1080p and then someone comes out and says its really not, does that information really change how good it looks? Just enjoy the game, who cares.
960x1080 isn't really that great of a resolution. It's about the same number of pixels as 720p (1280x720), just a little more. Certainly, it's not as good as full 1080p. GT5:P is about halfway between 720p and 1080p with its 1280x1080p resolution. I would love to see MGS4 and MGO run in native 1920x1080p, or even 1280x1080p, but I highly doubt that's the case.
I ended up getting a 32" 720p/1080i 100hz tv due to it being a perfect size for my room and after researching a bit. Cnet had a reviews on 1080p and 120hz and their benefits. They said that 1080p is only really beneficial on screens bigger than 50" unless your sitting closer than 1 1/2 the screen size due to the human eye perception. I also found Games magazines stating that the diff between the two resolutions is small/negligble to the humane eye. The 100hz tech basically adds an extra frame between the normal 2 per ? This reduces the effect of blurring while watching sport or fast moving scenes. It works really great but some people may like the motion blur you get in action scenes but for sport its a great feature to have. What do you think from your experiences on the diff between 1080i and 1080p when playing games?
Very awesome, but this still doesn't solve why the servers are gonna explode on monday lol.
the servers dont stand a chance...there are going to be lots of news of people complaining about lag and that they cant get online...this thing is going to be massive
Yes Kojima, i can see that your engine is a joke, and your game sucks, man you suck/sarcasm. Seriously listening to Kojima saying that stuff about MGS4 reminded me of countless JRPG i played. Everyone is so suicidle and depressive like "I am not good enough, let me die....." KOjima MGS4 ROCKS, all previewers liked it! Be positive dude.
No I think he means that Kojima has just come out and said he pushed the PS3 and the Cell processor to the max and he still wasn't able to achieve what he wanted graphically. So I think he's just saying that Kojima must be very demanding if 1080P graphics don't please him fully.
I just want smooth running games without framerate issues. 1080P @ 60FPS is not the "sweetspot" this gen, probably next gen. so 1 game here and there that does such feat, I don't really care much for. The PS3 on my Samsung 4671 looks fn spectacular..
Well ps3 is just too young for that, wait till a couple of years and you will see alot more games clocking 1080p/60fps.
and 720p is not the "sweet spot" because microsoft said so. but why not have 1080p/60fps when you can if the dev can achieve it? megaton....
I don't see [email protected] happening; not even next-gen will it be the "sweet spot." You're gonna have to sacrifice a LOT of graphical quality to get a game to run at either 1080p or 60fps ALONE, let alone both together. To put it into perspective, a game like Uncharted only runs at [email protected], and that game is pushing the PS3 pretty hard. People are being too optimistic if they expect a ton of games to run at 60 fps in the future.
"I just want smooth running games without framerate issues." This has nothing to do with Microsoft but as most fanboys do, always have to bring up BS, to feel better about their console of choice. I'm certain 1080p @60 frames will not be the trend this gen. Yeah it's feasible with some games and in other games a lot is sacrificed, so it's not worth it. If I recalled PS3 stated all their games were going to run in such fashion. Which was all BS marketing. Not really needed. 720P @30FPS running on a 1080P set, while being smooth as butta is fine with me.
Statix if I'm not mistaken Ratchet runs at a solid 60 FPS here is the producer quoted answering a question on the PS blog: "60fps and 720p is the preferred hi-res resolution. However, we do support 1080i so everyone with a HDTV can enjoy RCF:ToD in all it’s hi-def glory" so if they can achieve a solid 60 FPS with such beautiful graphics in a year of the PS3 life maybe just maybe 4 years from now they can achieve 1080p @ 60FPS.
Ratchet is a great looking 60hz game, that I agree with you. But you have to understand that 1080p is TWICE the pixel resolution of 720p. That's a LOT of extra pixels to render, and a big performance drainer. I don't really see the PS3 achieving more or less two times the rendering performance of Ratchet, at least not in the near future.
You’re right about doubling the pixels, but what I’m saying is that the PS3 is still young to really know, the jump between the early games on the PS2 like FF X and MGS 2 and the latest games like FF XII, MGS 3 and God of War was huge, I’m willing to give the PS3 the benefit of the doubt. Anyway I’m waiting to see if the DigiGuys (Wardevil) can achieve what they promise in their engine (1080P @ 60, real time or something like that.
yeah I read somewhere I don't remember, but I did read somewhere, that MGS4 runs in 1080p. The game runs smooth at 60 fps, but when the action starts to get heavy it switches to 30 fps. I can't find the article but I did read it. But I never thought they would be able to pull that off for a multiplayer game.
You read that on here. Lots of people make random statements with no evidence on this site.
How is anyone logging onto the game server? I downloaded the game, updated it, and have my Konami ID setup, but still getting unable to connect to server errors. I figured they shut down actual game server access until the 21st.
probably from the menu.... Menus of games usually run @ same rez as the game
Sweet. 1080p hitting 60 fps(confirmed by IGN earlier this month) is the way to go.
anyone know if mgs online is p2p or dedicated servers?
I'm pretty sure P2P. Generally, you don't need dedicated servers unless you hit 32 players and up (ie, Resistance which hits 40 players and has dedicated servers).
I'm pretty sure it's dedicated servers. When you try to log in right now it tells you that you can't connect to the server. Also, the previous MGO from Subsistence was dedicated. I can't find any concrete info on it so who knows.
Dedicated servers for 16 players isn't cost effective. But who knows I suppose.
can anyone who played the beta tell me if the FR holds up?
The Beta doesn't start until Monday so we can't play until then.
beta come monday. I would hope so at least. I'm really interested in see how the online component works for this game.
Why do it say 720p in the description on the store.
Great question!! I presume it's because the person responsible for the store just "assumed" it was 720P as most games are.
It might mean that the game is only 720p UPSCALED to 1080p, not true 1080p native.
Kojima-san being disappointed in his own vision, is like the knowing the sun is hot. It's a no brainer, everyone who's familiar with Kojima, or the Sun knows how he ( it ) opperates. This makes me want the game even more.
wrong article too? dont worry, you didnt look THAT stupid.....
If you read the description on the BETA on the Store (Europe) it says; "Network Players 2-16 HDTV screen Resolution 720p SIXAXIS Motion Sensitive" Dunno what this source is on about TBH. I know MGS4 will be 1080p and therefore the retail release of MGO, but is the BETA? Unless the Store made a mess up.
Let's not get our hopes up. Besides, MGO and MGS4 in 720 would beat out any other game in any other resolution. It's MGO for god sakes! SNAKE!!!
This not only about metal gear, it is about the real power of ps3 that can handle a game with a very impressive graphics like metal gear with a very hight resolution 1080P, this give a indication to what except from PS3 if it is being used right... Thanks for good news
If the game runs at 1080P (this is a standard). Then the game must run at 1920x1080 resolution. Instead, MGO is 960x1080 so the vertical resolution is half of the 1080P standard. While it's better then COD4 which runs at 1024x600 it's still not real 1080P. Now when the PS3 renders and outputs a game like MGS4 at 1080P that would be truly impressive.
Just because someone "Believes" the game to be 960x1080 doesnt mean its fact. Wait until someone does a REAL hardware test, before you believe what some random guy in a forum thought was possible. If you went through the entire forum you'd know he had no Proof. He was just assumed cause it "Seemed" to be H-Scaled. Why not 1280x1080??? exactly!! you dont know. so shut it.
Sorry I think you misunderstood. The game native resolution MAY be 1080 vertical resolution and 960 horizontal resolution and then the horizontal pixels are doubled via upsscaling to 1920. So technically it is still 1080P :)
Technically it's not 1080P. 1080P implies there is a 1920 vertical resolution going along with the 1080 horizontal resolution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... With that said I have MG4 on preorder and will download the beta soon to check it out. I just get tired of people throw terms around that aren't right. Probably the same people that called NES games "tapes".
Full 1080p means the full 1920x1080. 1080p Is correct when talking about this title because it still has the 1080p lines. That is why some products are advertised as "FULL 1080p" Where as some have the 1080p lines, and not the full 1920.
ye but i played the demo and theres a update 1.01 that takes 3 hrs to download and i keep geting this error that says network error its anoying i keep trying but only get to 3-7% in 30mins then it says network error restart the game so i do then i have to start again grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr help!
Use the peer to peer download option rather than the HTTP option. This will start out really slow but gradually pick up speed like Bitorrent :)
I got like 3% downloaded on the patch and that was like in an hour which was annoying. =/
MGS has worn out its welcome. Look at the games sales for proof. The sales have been on a sharp decline. Snakes last outing only sold 4 million copies on a system with a user base of over 100Million. That is really really pathetic. But maybe if they were smart enough to Make MGS4 on the 360 things would be different. It would have had improved lighting/textures/sound and hell over all better experience, Live would have been a huge + to help this game out. Oh well, SP:C will stomp the sh!t out of this game anyway, funny sense this is the only big exclusive game Sony has left.
This game will outsell them both COMBINED fan nut! You bots get weirder by the day. Must be all that fan and jet engine noise! :)
By comparison, not even selling 2 million sounds like horse piss now doesn't it buddy? I mean 20 million consoles, not even 2 million for heavy hitter exclusives, and keep dreaming Icefag, Splinter Cell sucks.
the game is also running in 1080i, just looked at the settings it was running on my hdtv. so we can possibly MGS4 will run in full 1080p since MGO uses the same engine. it could possibly be upscaled also, which doesnt really matter as long as it follows the minimum HD standard which is 720p, its all good.