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Prepare your bandwidth: Killzone Shadow Fall size to be 50 GB

Prepare your connection, as next generation might very well test your bandwidth - Killzone Shadow Fall has been confirmed to be around 50 GB. (Killzone: Shadow Fall, PS4)

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Imp0ssibl3  +   444d ago
I think I'll miss the annoying firmware updates, anyone with an average internet connection will surely have to look at a progress bar for the better part of a day now.
Ame_No_Shiryuu  +   444d ago
no surprise.., the assets, the 3D model, the environment texture.., truly NEXT GEN..!!, we're lucky it's only 50 GB though...
cleft5  +   444d ago
Good thing you can start playing a game before it finishes downloading. This should be an interesting test of that architecture.
Raf1k1  +   444d ago
This isn't surprising at all. I did mention some months back that this would become the norm so having consoles with digital only games would be bad for a lot of people.

50GB is more than the data allowance some people have for a month so it's a good thing we still have hard copies.
neoandrew  +   444d ago
Maybe truly next gen, but no way this size is due to textures, assets or 3d models, crysis 3 has the best assets, 3d models and very large textures on pc, only high end pc's can run it in its full glory, so ps4 can at best have the same quality and I'm sure it has, but c3 has only around 15 gb and it is the best looking pc game, a game that none of the new console can't run in this level of detail, you just can't, due to hardware limitation.

My guess is that killzone has some very high quality 1080p clips in it.

And please ps4 fanboys, i'm not telling you c3 i better that killzone, just simple and fair compare of hardware and actual possibilities.
shivvy24  +   444d ago
damn ! looks like i cant go digital just yet!
abzdine  +   444d ago
killzone is a beast!
True next gen greatness baby
Hellsvacancy  +   444d ago
neoandrew? Crysis 3 may look UBER AWESOME on PCs whatever, it doesn't excuse the fact that the gameplay is BORING, I got halfway through the game and gave up, there was nothing about it that made me want to continue to play it, looking prettier wouldn't change a thing
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Sevir  +   444d ago
I can only imagine how big a game like the Witcher 3 and Infamous will be. Thank goodness for PlayGo, Playing as you download will be a necessity come PlayStation 4 generation, lol, I'm kind of afraid to do digital with these big games, but the best part is the PS companion app will allow my PS4 to download games while I'm at work or school during the day so I won't have to watch a status bar.

In anycase, the only games at launch I'm going digital with is Driveclub, Knack, Resogun. Killzone and Watch_Dogs are my Disc based games. :)
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BallsEye   444d ago | Trolling | show
P0werVR  +   444d ago
Fact?

At least 80% or more of that are textures.

If anything, that is currently the general issue in game development. True next gen to developers will be mostly about reducing that size significantly in how you simply use textures.

So as time goes on, you'll see that size come down significantly due to how game development is progressing into highly optimized hardware and software.

So no, this does not state next gen.
neoandrew  +   444d ago
@Hellsvacancy

As i was saying, i'm not comparing games, HAVE YOU NOT LISTEN, just the tech specs and looking ONLY at c3 graphics it has no competition also on pc.

I don't care which game is better, c3 for me was also disappointing. Haven't played killzone: SF yet, so can't really say anything about it.

If the best looking game has 15gb then it is really doubtful that 50gb killzone has something to do with better textures or 3d models, as it can't look better than c3 on high end pc hardware.

As i was saying i bet on 1080p clips and/or high quality sound.
imt558  +   444d ago
I want more bigger games. 50 GB is not enough.
UltimateMaster  +   444d ago
50Gb. Wow.
And Microsoft wanted to make install based games with their DRM with an 500Gb HDD that can't be upgraded.
Imagine how many of their games would be between 20Gb to 50Gb?
You would only have played 10 games, 25 max.
Glad that didn't happen.
WTF were they thinking?
mewhy32  +   444d ago
Wow. That's a lot of data. Good thing that the PS4 has GDDR5 and a superior GPU to move that data around at the maximum speed and the power to use it. I'm freakin' excited.
Ju  +   444d ago
Well, expected. TLoU is 27GB - and I have some more clocking in at ~15-20GB. And that's why the first thing I'm gonna do is to rip out that HDD and put a 2TB drive in. It's all digital for me. 500GB fills up quickly.

BTW: Just got me TLoU...it downloads during the game - but requires ~70% of the game before you can play (took me 4 hours @ ~1.2MB/s ave).
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Cable2kx  +   444d ago
I really want to download this from the store so I can remote play this at anytime with my vita.

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Anarki  +   444d ago
And this is why I was hoping consoles wouldn't go digital only, 50gb would take ages for me to download not only that it would kill me on launch day knowing that I have a PS4 and have to wait another day to play the games whilst they download.
ChickeyCantor  +   444d ago
" no surprise.., the assets, the 3D model, the environment texture.., truly NEXT GEN..!!, we're lucky it's only 50 GB though..."

Man the way people talk about this stuff really reflects how casual they really are.

I'm pretty sure uncompressed audio files also have something to do with it.
Ezz2013  +   444d ago
@BallsEye

you keep post the same pic that still look Pretty Incredible and the best looking next gen title
but if that not a true next gen game
i wonder what you think of Ryse then since GOW/GOWA look on par with it if not better
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cgoodno  +   444d ago
Probably mostly videos and uncompressed 7.1 audio files.
Mikeyy  +   444d ago
Well yeah the videos and audio are uncompressed. Thats why the PS3 had better FMV's and More surround sound options last gen also. (FF13 was a perfect example, the 360 version was a disater due to compression)

Why Do they need to compress and lower the quality of assests when you have 50Gigs of space on the disc?

If 50gigs is unaccaptable for the digital download world then maybe the critics where RIGHT and we are not ready for an all digital console?

and the PS4 users that will be doing all digital will be slapping in at least a 1TB HDD anyway, at least playstation gives you options.
hollabox  +   444d ago
First gen already maxing out Blu Ray, well I guess that was predictable. I got into about 3 months ago with some idiots claiming BR 50GBs was enough for next gen platforms considering a handful of PS3 games coming in at over 40GBs.
dmitrijs88  +   444d ago
How much max capacity BLU-RAY disc supports?
And I wonder if there will be games with 2 discs?
Maybe PS5 wont have optical media anymore?
Does Xbone still requires mandatory installs, it wouldnt take long to fill 500GB with so large games?
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gaffyh  +   444d ago
Yeah Hellsvacancy, "HAVE YOU NOT LISTEN"?

LMAO.

I doubt it's a lot of video, maybe audio and textures, but most of these games rarely have loads of video, they might have a few but not loads.
jcnba28  +   444d ago
"truly NEXT GEN"

Damage control much?

50gb? So that means you can only download around 10 big games on PS4 until you run out of hard drive space! And people here were complaining about Wii U's hard drive space lol PS4's hard drive space is just as bad.

But guess what you can't stick an external hard drive in to the PS4.
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triforce79  +   444d ago
Well theres titles on wiiu that are over 20GB like legocity ect so its no surprise...
oof46  +   444d ago
Welcome to the future!
deecee33  +   444d ago
Crazy...hopefully 5 years into this gen when someone makes a game that pushes 100GB we'll have direct fiber in our homes to download it in some reasonable amount of time.
mkis007  +   444d ago
@jcnba28 nope no external drives but most of us are changing out the internal drive for 1-4TB drives. So no problem.
minimur12  +   444d ago
"And this is why I was hoping consoles wouldn't go digital only, 50gb would take ages for me to download not only that it would kill me on launch day knowing that I have a PS4 and have to wait another day to play the games whilst they download."

Did you forget we can play while it's downloading???
Gaming101  +   444d ago
I guess some people just didn't read the article, you can play as you download, no need to wait for the whole thing. It's a new feature for PS4.

But yeah, 50 GB is about right for a true next gen game. Be sure you upgrade your hard drive right off the bat so you're not screwed down the road!
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bligmerk  +   444d ago
This is very interesting news. We know the PS4 Blu-ray drive is 6X compared to the 2X in the PS3. What we don't know is the capacity. There have been rumors the PS4 Blu-ray drive is a 100GB triple or quad layer. If KZ:SF is 50GB already, it is really doubtful Sony was planning the rest of the generation as multi-disc installs, which makes it even more likely the PS4 Blu-ray drive is 100GB.
cj1pate101  +   444d ago
How is sp running at 30 fps last gen 1080 p resoultion next gen dude? Man you damn fan boys really piss me off. I was running 1080p 60 fps since 2005 too now. Why are you kids so happy about a 50 gig dl. Mgs4 was 50 gigs and that game was filled with cutscenes and horrid shooting mechanics. Killzone 2 was major hype just as every kz is. What make killzone shadow fall any diffrent from this hype is my question to you sony fuck bagels!
sckipt  +   444d ago
just buy the game retail and it will be way less
nunley33  +   444d ago
well i did see you'll be able to download the single and multiplayer seperately so that'll make it easier on people instead of downloading one 50gb file. sony looking out for you and with gaikai tech,download as you play.
FamilyGuy  +   444d ago
Uncompressed, high quality audio can be huge but maybe it's also all the large environments in single player and large maps in multiplayer with all their highly detailed assets? When you download new map packs they're always a gig or two so maybe it's just having lots of really big maps? A man can dream right?

Cut-scenes are in-engine as far as I know so 1080p video isn't the real go-to answer. They could have used in-engine scene and then made them into 1080p video to keep quality high while using less of the PS4s power during those scenes? Not really sure what they're doing that's taking up so much space.
PS3 games had some duplicate files to reduce load times that made them bigger but the PS4 has a faster reading drive so it shouldn't need that technique and the digital versions of games wouldn't have duplicate files anyway.

Why not just ask Sony or GG directly what makes their games take up so much space?
Personally, I appreciate high quality audio that's likely to be adding to PS3 and PS4 game size.
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pixelsword  +   443d ago
?

Why would I have to download it?
HammadTheBeast  +   444d ago
Surprisingly, it was taking a week for GTA V to download for me (well more like 2 days, felt like a week) then out of nowhere it downloaded 12 gb over 2 hours.

A lot of the download rate has to do with PSN users on.
vigilante_man  +   444d ago
Glad I've got 120Mbps and NO data cap. A couple of hours and I'm done..

Now just got to find me a 2TB drive by next summer when I start to max out the 500GB. But I'll probably stick with Blu Ray versions first to see just how good the increased read speeds are.

We are all going to have to be more choosy as to what games we keep installed at any one time. Overnight also seems to be a good time to download files this big.
onyoursistersback  +   444d ago
Is it not one of the PlayStations features?!?
"Downloading in background when you play....???"

We'll we all know that's Imposable with the multiplayer.
Idba  +   444d ago
You can play while downloading, you can download while the ps4 is in sleep mode (save electricity) and you can start the download from your phone if youre for example at work and dont want to wait all day and the download speed is going to be much faster
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Ron_Danger  +   444d ago
You can download either the single player or multiplayer first and then download the rest while you are playing... This was shown in a video back in March.
0ut1awed  +   444d ago
@ onyoursistersback

You are using logic from your 8 year old xbox 360, not actual facts about the PS4. "Impossible" you say? lol

Idk about the PS3 but I can download stuff off the PSN store on my Vita while I'm playing online. I wasn't sure about this but I had Rayman Origins downloading the other day and went to play Killzone Mercenary online. The download finished about 10-15 minutes into the game even though it was no where near being done when I started.

That's on my Vita... I think it's safe to say the PS4 will do it.
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stevehyphen  +   444d ago
@0ut1awed you can do anything on Vita while it's running a download.

Maybe not anything, I don't know if it will download and remote play at the same time as I haven't tried it. Also, while the you can download a patch for a game while playing that game, you probably can't play multiplayer in this scenario. Obviously, this is due to game versions and not Vita functionality.
Kleptic  +   444d ago
^you can do 'anything' with a PS3 while downloading, also...that is nothing new in terms of what they call 'background downloading'...

but the issue is the queuing...If you start a download of a demo or something...then fire up netflix, or start playing some other game online, the background download is paused, or prioritized down to receive very little of your total download speed...Sometimes its stopped all together, others it'll continue downloading, albeit not as fast as it would when not using the internet connection for something else...

if you play a DVD or BD...background downloading is 100% paused...both those playback features completely lock you out of PSN, for copyright reasons i guess...

the PS4 has this play while you download option...but so far, it seems better on paper to me...it just seems to divide a given game into two portions...so you still have to download an entire section before you start playing...

either way...i'm just saying it still seems like a physical disc is the best option for playing big retail games...digital for indies and stuff like that...thats my opinion, anyway...
Alexious  +   443d ago
Impossible? And why? It's not impossible at all.

In fact, most games that allow this are multiplayer/MMORPGs on PC.
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firelogic  +   444d ago
Firmware updates happen in the background when the PS4 isn't being used. You'll never see or wait for them.
Kleptic  +   444d ago
unless you're in the middle of a PSN connection when the firmware is released...in which case the updated firmware will be required to continue using the PSN...

what you're talking about is not a new feature of the PS4...its been this way since PS+ was released...you have the option to check for updates for games and firmware at specific times that you know you won't be using the system, and if one is available its downloaded and installed before you turn the system back on the next day...but if you happen to be playing a game online when the firmware comes in...have fun...you'll have to wait for it...The PS4 isn't going to magically do this stuff in the middle of an online match in killzone or something...

ask me how many times this happened during scheduled clan matches in bf3....
Mikeyy  +   444d ago
What is the issue? I was over my brother in laws and his xbox prompts him to install Firmware updates also, and it takes the same amount of time?

Why is there a compalaint here?

Both consoles have firmware updates, firmware updates are a GOOD thing.

Patches too, they are a good thing, patches are intended to fix things, and add new features.

Ask any PC gamer, Player count spikes on patch day as people check out the new goodies.

If they abolished patches every single MP game out there would be aweful within a month, as people find out whats OP or whatch glitches to do, it will become unplayble.
firelogic  +   444d ago
@Kleptic

No, firmware updates occur when the PS4 isn't being used. If you're online playing or downloading something from the store, it's not just going to push the fw to you. It runs fw updates when the PS4 is in sleep/low power mode.
avengers1978  +   444d ago
This is why I wanted a TBHDD... I bet the eventually have a SKU with a bigger hard drive.

Can't wait for KZSF... All weekend multiplayer marathon on the 15th, let's say around 12:30am est.
PSN ID: avengers1978

Looking forward to some kick ass MP matches
hardcorehippiez  +   444d ago
grr i have to wait till the 29th but ill be having a weekend marathon then :D hippiez2007
Cuzzo63  +   444d ago
Man the pc crowd are really drinking the hate juice for this new gen. Haters turn up!
Everytime I see those guys commenting on how powerful the pc is it gives me the giggles. I didnt even know thos was a pc article... seems like all the ps4 guys are trolling.... hold up. Am I jus confused lmao
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xtremeimport  +   444d ago
This is why i buy hard copies and not digital.
clearelite  +   444d ago
I'll probably be buying the hard copy anyway because I think this game belongs in my collection.
MAULxx  +   444d ago
100% agree.
If the game ends up sucking at least you can get some cash or credit out of it. All you can do with your digi download is delete it.
princejb134  +   444d ago
thankfully youll be able to download while playing on ps4
you get to choose what you want to download first between single player and multiplayer
it would download a piece of it and let you play that part while the rest of the game is downloading=]
ps4 ftw
sonarus  +   444d ago
i am still waiting to know exactly what kind of hdd ps4 will use so i can buy a 2TB one. that 500gb being offered already seems useless
DaGR8JIBRALTAR  +   444d ago
First day and 50 gigs wiped out...gone..fin! Shiiiiitt! Physical copy for me, like to have something tangible anyway.
nosferatuzodd  +   444d ago
indeed
ala_767  +   444d ago
Damn! Now I think 500GB for PS4 is too small!
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Tooly  +   444d ago
Upgrade it
Bennibop  +   444d ago
Thank god I am buying PS4 and not Xbone, I have already got my 1TB hardrive (for less than £30)to upgrade. Look forward to seeing the cost of Microsofts offical HDD, going by this gen you will be paying £70! (remember 120gb for £80 at launch.)
MWong  +   444d ago
Agreed with the amount of Indie games coming out I might have to upgrade my HDD to at least a 750GB or 1TB drive.
Feralkitsune  +   444d ago
Indie games typically don't take up much space.
cyclindk  +   444d ago
Go to Best Buy and pick up a 1 Petabyte drive dawg.

Simple
Einhert  +   444d ago
and you can install any HDD in a PS4?
Nekroo91  +   444d ago
@Einhert no, it as to be a 2.5 HDD, same size as the ps3
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Feralkitsune  +   444d ago
When will someone notice you said Petabyte? Lol
cyclindk  +   444d ago
Wait till we get to a Brontobyte... really, bronto :)
v6volume  +   444d ago
@Einhert in a sense yes but like Nekroo91 said, it's has to be those specifications and you can upgrade it yourself
Dark_Overlord  +   444d ago
@cyclindk

I'll see your Brontobyte and raise you a Coperbyte ;)

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/W...
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Shake_Zula  +   444d ago
Here's my TV... and my rack-mounted PS4 and storage server... just... for... Killzone...

LMAO

Seriously though, upgrading the PS4's hard drive seems inevitable. In fact, I've got a 1TB SSHD just waiting for it. The only thing I wish I knew was at what RPM the factory drives are coming in.

#ITGeek
cyclindk  +   444d ago
@Dark_Overlord

I see your Coperbyte and raise you alls... :

Bit = 1 Binary Digit
Byte = 8 Bit
Kilobyte = 1024 Byte
Megabyte = 1024 Kilobyte
Gigabyte = 1024 Megabyte
Terabyte = 1024 Gigabyte
Petabyte = 1024 Terabyte
Exabyte = 1024 Petabyte
Zettabyte = 1024 Exabyte
Yottabyte = 1024 Zettabyte
Brontobyte = 1024 Yottabyte
Geopbyte = 1024 Brontobyte
Saganbyte = 1024 Geopbyte
Pijabyte = 1024 Saganbyte
Alphabyte = 1024 Pijabyte
Kryatbyte = 1024 Alphabyte
Amosbyte = 1024 Kryatbyte
Pectrolbyte = 1024 Amosbyte
Bolgerbyte = 1024 Pectrolbyte
Sambobyte = 1024 Bolgerbyte
Quesabyte = 1024 Sambobyte
Kinsabyte = 1024 Quesabyte
Rutherbyte = 1024 Kinsabyte
Dubnibyte = 1024 Rutherbyte
Seaborgbyte = 1024 Dubnibyte
Bohrbyte = 1024 Seaborgbyte
Hassiubyte = 1024 Bohrbyte
Meitnerbyte = 1024 Hassiubyte
Darmstadbyte = 1024 Meitnerbyte
Roentbyte = 1024 Darmstadbyte
Coperbyte = 1024 Roentbyte

1 Coperbyte is 989,292,945,639,150,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,0 00,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000 bytes
vigilante_man  +   444d ago
@Shake_Zula
I wouldn't worry. With USB 3 on board I am also guessing the Sata port will be 6Gbps.

Besides, I have placed 7,200 drives in my 2 PS3s and they DO run faster without any noise or heat problems than the installed 5,400 drives.
Mikeyy  +   444d ago
I too put a 7200 RPM in my PS3.

its the 10,000 RPMs that you had to look out for, they caused heat problems.
specialguest  +   444d ago
I used to think that 500gb would never be used up. Boy was I wrong. I also once thought 1tb was overkill, but now it seems standard.
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Grave  +   444d ago
Looks like thats the first upgrade for me. 1TB will be new standard if next gen games are this size fo sho.
vigilante_man  +   444d ago
Going to put a 1TB into my 320GB PS3 soon and waiting for 2TB sata drives for PS4. Shame they never put 2 drive slots in the PS4 like you get in some high end laptops.
snipab8t  +   444d ago
10 games, choose wisely...
Crazyglues  +   444d ago
See I told everybody this and they laughed at me, saying 500GB is huge...

I said no it's not because if games are 50GBs you can see how that could fill up fast...

They laughed.. well now that they have announced a game at 50GB's -and well now you see what I was saying.. -I'm just glad I upgraded mine to a 1TB - plan on doing a lot more digital copies this time around.

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PsylentKiller  +   444d ago
This is why I like the XB1 method of expandable HDD space. I can add an external hard drive. Yes, it will take up more space but it will be cheaper than a 2.5 HDD. I know it wont be ready at launch but hopefully soon after. Will the PS4 have this as well? If so, then great. If not, that's fine with me as the PS4 will be for exclusives for me.
stevehyphen  +   444d ago
I've been telling people this, too.

A lot of people didn't consider that both Xbox One and PS4 will be using Bluray. It wont be just Sony's first party who will be taking advantage of the format's storage anymore. When games like Assassin's Creed and such make the jump to being next gen only, I would expect the size to increase dramatically.

I'm more of a fan of the PS4 approach than the Xbox One's. I would rather swap the internal drive than have something else dongled to the system.
LonDonE  +   444d ago
But this is nothing new, metal gear solid 4 on ps3 was also a 50gb disk, games on ps3 and 4 don't use compression for example, the audio files and the cinema's, while on 360 due to dvd format near enough everything was compressed.

Anyway ps3 games where mostly big in size so for most Playstation gamers its the norm, i believe killzone 3 was 41.5gb in size on blue ray, and killzone 2 was 12gb, and now killzone shadow fall is 50gb, so you can clearly see the size growing with each new release.

I downloaded GTA5 the night before launch night in around 3.5 hrs, and that was 18gb, so i am not worried, a 50gb game shouldn't take me that long, either way i think a 500gb hard drive should be fine for most users, like with ps3 you will have to just delete the games and data for games you are no longer playing, or obviously just buy a 1tb lap top hard drive and upgrade, its literally like lego, plug and play!

Its xbox users i feel sorry for, Microsoft is always forcing them to use proprietary hard ware, like with the 360 u could only buy the official xbox hard drive, where as on ps3 we could buy any old lap top hard drive, or 2.5inch drive, and we were good to go, Microsoft loves to take the piss, at least with Sony they give us options, granted the vita has a proprietary memory card, but that's more likely so they could stop piracy i think, lol

I think such huge sizes are only a concern with digital purchasers, but even then on a decent connection it should be fine, and the fact that we can download a small amount and start to play is awesome, no more waiting for the whole game.
Kleptic  +   444d ago
Psylentkiller...

the PS3 currently supports external HDD's via USB, as long as they are formatted a specific way (easy to do, it just won't recognize it until its complete thats all)...so i'd assume the PS4 would be equally open...

but...the catch is in DRM...so you couldn't install specific stuff to the external drive...in some cases even game saves couldn't be 'moved' from the allocated internal drive directory (and the only way to back that up is with PS+ cloud saves)...it just depends on the developers...

So its likely you'll be able to use an external HDD...just unknown what all you can do with it just yet...

Rumors are Plex is making a PS4 DLNA streaming app for the also, which will allow 2 way streaming to your networked PC, phone, whatever...so you can just use your existing other stuff to back up anything hopefully...but again, it depends what type of files are locked to the system...more than anythign...
Utalkin2me  +   444d ago
@PsylentKiller

Yes you can use a external drive on the PS4 if you wanted.

And a internal and external from newegg are pretty much the exact same price. So it would kind of be stupid to get a external for a PS4. Just cause the prices are exactly the same for external and internal drives.
Crazyglues  +   444d ago
@ Kleptic & Utalkin2me

No you can't use an external to store games will not work / has to be an internal drive only - http://n4g.com/news/1344588...

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Sevir  +   444d ago
500gb is perfect if you were only doing indie games... But with game world's getting bigger and more open, a 2 terabyte HDD is far more suited for going digital with Big AAA retail games and smaller indie titles alike... I'll upgrade to a 2 terabyte HDD when it comes available, till then, 70% of my AAA games will be physical
Crazyglues  +   444d ago
@ Sevir

yeah I thought about 2TB but they are asking too much money for it like $179 that's ridiculous so I just went with the 1TB for $69 bucks free shipping...

-but yeah if you don't plan on downloading games, you should be fine... 500GB will hold you.

but I want to step up my digital this time around for a few reasons,

-I never really sell my games
-I like not having to put the disc in
-I Like having the game on my Playstation acct.
could re-download any time..
-I like the deals they are doing now, like -for every 50 bucks you spend @ PSN store you get a 10 dollar credit- So I will buy BF4 ps3 digital and use my free 10 credit to get BF4 for PS4 upgrade for free...

so I'm not going all digital I'll still buy disc copies just depends on the game.. I'll probably be 40% digital this time.

-So with PLayStation deals and the upgrade to the system, it's a good time to start going more digital this time around.. imo..

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HeyImBen11  +   444d ago
Just play the most games on disc :).
CaptainSheep  +   444d ago
Retail version ftw.
snipab8t  +   444d ago
You'll still have to install it though, right?
NarooN  +   444d ago
Yeah but it'll be better and faster than downloading 50GB.

This is why physical media isn't going anywhere anytime soon. It's not very feasible to expect people to constantly download games that are this big all the time, lol. At least in North America and many parts of Europe, the infrastructure doesn't allow ridiculously good speeds like Korea and Japan have.

And it's even worse for people with monthly bandwidth caps.
MAULxx  +   444d ago
Why would you have to install it?
Destrania  +   444d ago
@NarooN

You don't have to install anything off the disc, it is completely optional. You can if you want it on your HDD.
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snipab8t  +   444d ago
Yeah, also retail is also much cheaper usually.
Shake_Zula  +   444d ago
I just hope the retail version warrants a full install. It's kind of hard to picture 50GB of smooth gameplay streaming from optical media. :/
Destrania  +   444d ago
The Blu-Ray in PS4 is 6x faster than PS3's. Installations are completely optional from retail discs.
Majin-vegeta  +   444d ago
Hmm maybe let it download while tinkering with around with the other things on the PS4 :D

I been wondering lets say i purchase 3 gamrs off the PSN store on the PS4 will they both download at the same time or just one by one like PS3?
Idba  +   444d ago
i think with sony expanding their servers to get faster download speed that youæll be able to download 1 or more games at the same time
stevehyphen  +   444d ago
You'd be gaming faster if you download one at a time anyway.
CocoWolfie  +   444d ago
lets hope they fix the online prices this time around... in the u.k our r.r.p is £39.99 for standard retail copies. on the ps store? £49.99 to £59.99 -.-
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tigertron  +   444d ago
and this ladies and gentlemen is why I'll be buying physical versions unless I don't have the option to.
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Majin-vegeta  +   444d ago
Yup same here :).
JimmyLmao  +   444d ago
but then you give up the ability to remotely access your entire games library via remote play =(

it would be whatever digital games you get, plus the 1 disc in the disc tray

gahhh, it's such a tough choice between digital and physical
WitWolfy  +   444d ago
WTF are you talking about?!?! Remote play is a feature for both Retail and digital downloaded versions.
JimmyLmao  +   444d ago
@WitWolfy

yes, WitWolfy, we are all aware of this.

But you can only play the 1 disc game that is in the disc tray in addition to whatever digital games you have... your PS4 can't magically swap discs by itself.

Of course this isn't much of an issue whilst using remote play in your home because you can swap the discs by yourself, but if you go to a friends for example, you can only remote play your digital library plus the 1 physical game.

So this is one of the benefits of going fully digital
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Shake_Zula  +   444d ago
We can't deny though that the digital version will likely run like butter. Pulling from a hard drive is WAY faster than pulling from Blu-Ray. I wonder if you can control how much data gets installed. That would be cool.
SkippyPaccino  +   444d ago
I don't see any problems with read speeds on the ps4...its 3x faster and the laser is more refine giving it the ability to read more per spin...
MAULxx  +   444d ago
I think it's full installs.
MAULxx  +   444d ago
I'm glad to hear that others enjoy physical discs as much as I do. I don't know why anyone wants to see digital only. I hope physical game discs stay around even for PS5 & Xtwo. I don't mean just as a delivery method to your HDD. I'm talking playable from the disc with option to install.
BLAKHOODe  +   444d ago
And to think this is just a launch title. Imagine what's to come a few years from now.
Perjoss  +   444d ago
PS4 games on multiple disks incoming?
Ron_Danger  +   444d ago
More like code optimization. The amount of gigs will go up, but it won't be exponential. It will be a steady incline with KZ:SF kind of being a starting point.
GryestOfBluSkies  +   444d ago
or higher capacity blu ray discs, which i believe is already possible.
JimmyLmao  +   444d ago
well, dual layer blu-ray discs hold 50gb

but KZ SF is more than likely the largest game we will see for a while, but you never know, maybe 5 years down the line there might be a game larger than 50gb, i just wonder if the PS4 can read triple layer (100gb) or quadruple layer (128gb) blu-ray discs.
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CRASHBASHUK  +   444d ago
there is BDXL which is 100-128GB on one disc
RevXM  +   444d ago
@ Jimmy.
LOL, PS4 will handle just fine when PS3 can read 16 layer 400GB discs.
http://www.afterdawn.com/ne...
Sitdown  +   444d ago
And this is why its super important for them to nail the play as you download function....
Baka-akaB  +   444d ago
People forget that portions will be plyable as you download the title . Besides if you're used to downloading series and movies legally or not , 50gb is nothing
Shake_Zula  +   444d ago
Yeah, but scale is an important aspect to keep in mind as well. Assuming that the game is 6-7 hours long, your still talking at least a 10GB download before you can play a level. That is unless they stream the game while downloading, but still that's a lot of bandwidth that would have to be used. In any case, I'm looking forward to seeing how it works out.
Baka-akaB  +   444d ago
yeah but put in perspective as well , it's again nothing for people used to download video content of between 45 min - 2hrs in high def on a daily or weekly basis .

Yesterday , for serie afficonados there were releases such as : mentalist , castle , breaking bad , once upon a time , boardwalk empire , homeland , revenge , eastbound and down etc , like 1gb per ep , already 8-9 gb in hd for those alone .
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Sh0ckWav3  +   444d ago
lets hope this does not include all the different languages,audio on the same disc...if that's the case its nothing to brag about...
meatysausage  +   444d ago
As much as i would like to have a all digital PS4, there is no way in my internet infrastructure that I could be downloading 50gb games, I would take me days
chrissx  +   444d ago
Mann guess I'll definately be upgrading that 500gb eventually at some point!
IaussieGamer  +   444d ago
Who gives a S##t im getting it on Disk.
MasterCornholio  +   444d ago
Holy smokes.

O.O

That's huge.

Nexus 7 2013
claterz  +   444d ago
Glad I upgraded to fibre optic recently with all the streaming options and game sizes increasing for next gen. I'm actually thinking of buying all my games digitally so that I can play them all from the vita when I'm away from home. Seems like an odd decision from Sony to not provide a digital download code with every retail copy. As it stands you'll have to have the game that you want to play from the vita actually in the PS4 so you wont be able to switch games until you get home. Unless I'm missing something...
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Monolith  +   444d ago
Hmmm I wonder. Never thought of that.
Goro  +   444d ago
Holy crap, that means you would need 100GB free to install it.
CPTN MITCHELL  +   444d ago
Uncharted 3 is 40gb and my internet is 90mbps from bright house
Angerfist  +   444d ago
Well i just downloaded Far Cry 3 for PS+ and it was slow as a motherfucker, maybe Servers were stressed on a saturday afternoon. Doesnt what Bandwith you have if the Servers are slow.
Shake_Zula  +   444d ago
Holy crap! 90Mbps is freakin' ridiculous. For anyone that doesn't know what that translates to, that is about 10MB per second, which means it would take you all of about 2 days max to download KZ.

#ITGeek
Furesis  +   444d ago
more like an hour or two
dmitrijs88  +   444d ago
90mbps = 9mbps real download speed and its incredibly fast. 50GB would download in less than 2hours. You clearly dont know what you type.
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Goro  +   444d ago
If it was 10MBPS then a 50GB download would take 83.33 minutes
Are_The_MaDNess  +   444d ago
got a 100 megabit connection here.
but i never EVER get full speed on PS3, im lucky if i get more than 2MB/s its sad really when a huge company like sony cant deliver the speed we haves and such when Steam downloads at full speed at 12MB/s.

Sony really need to step up their game this coming gen.
LogicStomper  +   443d ago
Sorry, but I'm fairly certain mine trumps it.
Here's what fibre-optics gets you.

(3 trials for a fair test)

http://www.speedtest.net/my...

http://www.speedtest.net/my...

http://www.speedtest.net/my...

And yeah, unlike all the above, I actually have proof of my internet connection rather than make claims without facts.
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pabadamus1  +   444d ago
Physical copy for me. I wonder if they chose not to compress anything at all and that is why it is so big. This is going to be a very beautiful game with hi res textures and hi bitrate audio.
wantedboys  +   444d ago
"In an interview with Eurogamer, Sony Computer Entertainment UK boss Fergal Gara revealed that Killzone Shadow Fall will have a size of more than 50 GB"

wait one second the game is more than 50Gb that means the ps4 can read blu-ray disk of 100GB!! :))
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dmitrijs88  +   444d ago
PS3 can read BD of 400GB, welcome to the present.
Summons75  +   444d ago
Good thing I buy retail versions of full games, downloading on PSN is already a nightmare and I have the best internet provided in the area. I can't even imagine 50 gbs. Sucks for those people who never leave their house and believe everything should be digital only.
Kayant  +   444d ago
And this is why an all digital age on consoles is not ready/won't work anytime soon because until everyone is on fibre then it's not going to be ideal. I do hope MS and Sony's play as you download features work well because if this amount is a default standard for next-gen titles then my internet is going to be crying a lot :p

Retail it is for most games.
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jackanderson1985  +   444d ago
it's great that you can choose between either MP or SP... i'd assume SP would hold the majority of the 50gb? once you're done with the SP delete it and hopefully save alotta room
solidworm  +   444d ago
So much for Microsofts digital only future.
Mikeyy  +   444d ago
I kinda wished they stayed that course, it would be damn funny to read about all the chaos, and outrage.
abusador  +   444d ago
Damn!, but at least its 50 gigs of beauty nextgen visuals
bumnut  +   444d ago
Unlikely, most of it is probably taken up with high resolution video and uncompressed audio.
TristanPR77  +   444d ago
I have an unlimited data 40MB connection. I can handle this but I still prefer the hard copy. I just get digital version of games only available via PSN.
CRASHBASHUK  +   444d ago
if people are going for the digital ver of games you have to remember there is "play go" when u can play it as its being downloaded but not all games can use it(watch_dogs for example).
also I was thinking 500GB is not enough too I was hoping for 750GB+
weirdo  +   444d ago
considering my first upgrade - a 1TB SSD
WitWolfy  +   444d ago
Good luck with that. The price on one of those must probably cost an arm and a leg.
DarkBlood  +   444d ago
not really, you can shop around good enough to find it for about 120 dollars or what have you.
Drekken  +   444d ago
DarkBlood - I don't know where you are shopping but you can buy 2 Ps4 for the price of 1 TB SSD.

Cheapest I saw is $800.00
kewlkat007  +   444d ago
What darkblood meant to say he has a buddy that drives a truck...lol
SonyNGP  +   444d ago
I'll be pissed if most of the size is from pre-rendered cutscenes again.
admj83  +   444d ago
No.Prepare to buy retail version!
sigfredod  +   444d ago
Luckily i haave my PS4 with the killzone disc bundle :)
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