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Submitted by MajorAly 353d ago | news

Crytek CEO: Ryse wouldn't have run at 1080p on PS4; decision was choice, not hurdle

Crytek CEO, Cevat Yerli has had his hands full with Ryse, not only with its development but also with speculation surrounding the Xbox One exclusive's technical makeup. When questioned whether it would have been possible to run the game with the same performance at 1080p on the PS4, Yerli's response was rather interesting. (Crytek, PS4, Ryse: Son of Rome, Xbox One)

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black0o   353d ago | Off topic | show | Replies(24)
King-Prodigy-X  +   353d ago | Well said
"A liar begins with making falsehood appear like truth, and ends with making truth itself appear like falsehood."

-William Shenstone
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Bathyj  +   353d ago
From another William
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

I havent really weighed in too much on this Ryse thing because my lack of interest has nothing to do with the graphics, but its all just starting to sound like damage control now.

They shouldnt have crapped on so much about what a powerhouse it was to start with if it wasnt but that was probably more the fanboys pinning all their hopes on it more than anything.

Anyway, let the game do the talking from now, if anyone wants to buy this game it shouldnt be for the resolution or the polygon count.
sinjonezp  +   353d ago
Well said and the cat is out of the bag. The internet is a mainstream for delivering instant information. Its not like the old days where you hear about a game. Like the game based on what you hear; we want full details and these details are leaked. Gamers want the best experience possible and every bit of information leaked is making the game less desirable. Now they want to throw the other console under the bus cause they cannot provide desired performance. Just keep quiet, optimize your game to make it fun, and deliver a quality product. Period.
pixelsword  +   352d ago
"Well said and the cat is out of the bag"

More like the cat is out of the box.

http://i.huffpost.com/gadge...

:)

By the looks of things since actual footage is starting to surface, in reality, the cat didn't really fit in the first place:

http://i.huffpost.com/gadge...

Heh, heh, heh... I'ma change that one; gimmie an hour or a day; depending on if I still have imageReady lol. :)
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Soc5  +   352d ago
Yeah and all this chatter will be irrelevant if the game turns out great or turns out to be crap. The polygon count won't make the difference if it plays amazingly or is mediocre.
BattleAxe  +   352d ago
William Shakespeare:

"To be or not to be, that is the question"
vigilante_man  +   352d ago
Are we all forgetting about the secret sauce that can now be disclosed by Microsoft/AMD?

All the game needs is a topping of this new secret sauce and problem solved!
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pixelsword  +   352d ago
Quote from Othello, which fits, oddly:

"'O, beware, my lord, of jealousy;It is the green-ey'd monster, which doth mockThe meat it feeds on."

Hour's up:

http://s22.postimg.org/68mk...
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abzdine  +   352d ago
"Shut up Crytek and go to work"

abzdine
Ryto  +   352d ago
These cat and boxes pictures have got me in tears! Love the wit guys!

On another note, how would he know it wouldn't do that on PS4? Are crytek even currently developing a game on the PS4? Just sounds like theyre papping their pants. Should have made Timeplitters 4 multi plat instead of ryse.
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Gamer1982   352d ago | Trolling | show
Haules  +   352d ago
So much hype and discussion regarding this dull game...
legionsoup  +   352d ago
I don't see anywhere in the twitter link where it says it wouldn't run at 1080p on the PS4.

What am I missing?
worldwidegaming  +   352d ago
Indeed. Its the first reason to play a game in the first place.
mewhy32  +   352d ago
I sincerely doubt that the mights PS4 couldn't have ran this at 1080p. Yeah. It could have done it easily.
Consoldtobots  +   352d ago
so now MS is rolling out heads of studios to comment about what's possible for a title THAT IS NOT being developed for PS4 on the PS4??

oi vey what an absolute mess they are turning this hobby into.
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Deadpoolio  +   352d ago
@vigilante_man: Oh jesus christ there is no secret sauce it is not september 30th the NDA expired yesterday morning at midnight THERE IS NOT SECOND GPU.....There NEVER was
Consoldtobots  +   352d ago
oh and the most obvious point I forgot to mention

when you are talking about your competitors product instead of yours......you already lost.
UltimateMaster  +   352d ago
Does this confirms that the game is coming to PS4?
The_Con-Sept  +   352d ago
Let them say what they want. Every day ryse sounds a lot like Lair every day. Didn't lair have QTE's as well?

Ryse.... Lair.... Rise.... Lair.... Haze.... All of these games have 4 letter titles for them.....
LonChaneyTV  +   352d ago
"I don't see anywhere in the twitter link where it says it wouldn't run at 1080p on the PS4."

word has it that the consoles can't even run Battlefield 4 at max settings at 800p. (shocker!!)

In the PC world there are always new features made to obligate you to upgrade your hardware, Crytek and DICE are known for that.

In truth both companies can take any console and force it to run at 700p, with all of the new features they come up with.
NewZealander  +   353d ago
downscale the polygon count and improve resolution and textures, fine by me! i don't even notice the poly difference, but those textures look far better!

also calling them liars is a bit harsh, crytec are amazing when it comes to visuals, i have full faith in their decision.
karl  +   352d ago
maybe on pc where graphics potential is quite unlimited compared to consoles and visuals depend on new tech...

but consoles lack that power and all is about optimization, not the best graphics.

and crytek doesnt really stand out in that area.
Athonline  +   352d ago
Crytek is all about raw power usage, producing the best visuals. Their optimisation is awful.

You can see that in the original Far Cry and all three Crysis games (especially the first one).

I played around a little bit with their CryEngine (available for free) and even some of the simple algorithms (i.e. sorting) and data structures, sometimes are non-efficient. It works, but where it needs O(N) (Computer Scientists should get me ;)), it takes O(N^2)...

It is a pity as Ryse was a game I was looking forward to. The new textures certainly look nice, but I play relatively close to my monitor and I can spot resolution differences...
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BX81  +   352d ago
@karl, I don't think consoles lack the power to produce good graphics. Producing the best graphics? No they can't. I thought crisis was the best looking shooter on consoles(just my opinion).
karl  +   352d ago
I meant to get the visuals of games like crysis or battlefield....

And crysis on console look really nice but it want consistent.. some stuff look great and other like crap to me.

Till this day nothing beats killzone.. just my opinion though
RedDragan  +   352d ago
There's a difference between visuals and fidelity. 1080p would be the latter, whilst more objects being rendered would be the former.

Which would gamers prefer if fidelity is 720p or 1080p?

My personal opinion is 720p with more action on screen but I understand 1080p is important for others, so also on my list is gameplay. If that works then I am happy regardless. :)
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PSX04  +   352d ago
this is just a liar told media for marketing
SegaSaturn669  +   352d ago
Why downscale now? Isn't this project years old?

Why would they change the resolution so close to release after flaunting it earlier?

It's like they're channeling M$'s amazing ability to change their mind.
BX81  +   352d ago
Maybe a change in the hardware from then till now. Being finalized? Just a guess I'm not some industry guru so take it with a grain of salt. Lol
BallsEye   352d ago | Trolling | show
DeadlyFire  +   352d ago
They are taking it down a notch to insure a stable framerate as CryEngine 3.x used for 1BX/PS4 likely isn't fully optimized for the platforms yet. Its a reason alot of launch games might land on 720p in 2013. 1080p is more than possible on PS4. Just depends on how deep they want the graphics and how in touch with the tools they are on both systems. EA has a partnership with Microsoft so all their games on PS4 could be 720p alongside the 1BX versions.

The Dev kit build always has more polygons than the final version of the game. They scale it down to the game to maximize framerate. This happens to every game. Usually developers are not showcasing the higher poly build to the public though. Triangles or polygons doesn't matter. Its still a representation of graphics in a number form. I say look at the images to judge the quality yourself when its released.
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WarThunder  +   352d ago
They talk like they have been testing the game on the PS4... he hasn't even worked on the PS4 devkit properly and he says it wouldn't run on PS4 at 1080p.... So much damage control...

You think they would say otherwise? and make MS look bad....

A Next gen exclusive game running below 1080p is not acceptable and there are no excuses....
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RVanner_  +   352d ago
I was very surprised when I started seeing the articles mentioning some games would be running at 720p. They're is absolutely no reason not to achieve 1080p when less powerful PC's can and have been for some time. But the proof will be in the pudding and the only way it to wait and see how the games look when released. For me a higher resolution is more noticeable than a slight boost in image quality. Personal preference may be.
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dmitrijs88  +   352d ago
Oops! He really shouldnt have said that, because now..Shitstorm is coming!
On a serious note - how many PS4 games have Crytek made or is at least developing now?
come_bom  +   352d ago
LOL... if one developer claims that the PS4 is all mighty and can handle anything, then he's speaking the truth. But if another developer claims that the PS4 couldn't handle the game at 1080p, then he's lying and making stuff up.

Fanboys believe what they choose to believe... makes them most of the times wrong.
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Taislin  +   352d ago
When a developer who is working on PS4 says good things about it, we are tempted to believe, but if someone who isn´t working and has never worked on it (to the public knowledge at least) talks about it with such certainty, one should exert caution and take what they say with a grain of salt.

Simple logic really, it´s called having a brain.
come_bom  +   352d ago
@Taislin

Do you really believe that Crytek is not working on their game engine Cryengine for the PS4 ? Do you really think they don't know what kind of hardware the PS4 has ? CryEngine (4th Generation) already supports the PS4 so that means they have been working with the PS4 for quite some time. How naive can you be.

You should use your brain more often!
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pwr_lVl  +   352d ago
@Taislin But yet KILLZONE Shadowfall can run at 1080p 60 FPS on the PS4 and IMO looks far better than RYSE
allgamespc2012  +   352d ago
good shit son, i like you
xtremeimport  +   352d ago
when commenting on a system exclusive a dev will never admit to be able to do something on another console that they cant accomplish on the system they're developing on.

Thats just, logic.
Blaze929  +   352d ago
What does a multi-platform developer, have to do with Microsoft and lying? Smh you Sony fans just seem to know more than everyone now adays huh? Even developers who...you know...actually do this for a living.

This is crytek of all developers. I'm pretty sure they have PS4 devkits and know what they are talking about. It's not like they are a Microsoft exclusive company.
nosferatuzodd  +   352d ago
at this time i cant believe anything coming from micro soft camp anymore
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Convas  +   353d ago | Well said
Someone call me in November when the retail game ships.

Enough is enough. How much more can you talk about this?
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SevenSwords485  +   353d ago
We couldn't really know since they really haven't tried. But the PS4 might just be more powerful than X1 so it should run better..
Foxgod  +   353d ago
Crytek is a multi developer, i am 100 % sure they got the ps4 dev kits and know what they are talking about.

I would not be surprised if they are working hard already on the next Crysis for X1 and Ps4.
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SevenSwords485  +   353d ago
Wasn't Ryse suppose to be an Kinect game at first. Maybe they never tried. But you are most likely right.
-Foxtrot  +   353d ago
" and know what they are talking about. "

Yeah they do....while they have there hand so far up Microsoft's backside they're struggling to get it back out.
Tito08  +   353d ago
Sure, but difference is their game is exclusive to XBox, it's more convenient for him and MS because if he says it would do the same, that would make MS look bad, he's negotiating with MS, it's in his best interest to make MS look good, it's all business man.
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CEOSteveBallmer  +   352d ago
yeah keep telling yourself that. Sorry but they don't have any games for PS4 right now. and whats to stop them from making "false accusation" about the other company?? those 1Billion MS invested in gamnes was to buy 3rd party exclusives. crytek is not a 1st party MS dev, insomniac is not, remedy is not owned by MS, capcom not owned by MS, double helix not owned by MS, and yet they make these exclusives respectively = Ryse, sunset overdrive, quantum break, dead rising 3, killer instinct. If these devs want a good relations with MS, they should talk good points about MS and not so good points about PS4. Why can't you accept PS4 is powerful "hardwarewise" MS admitted this indirectly why can't you?? you can say the sane for sony having 3rd party exclusives but atleast most of their heavy hitters is 1st pary and sony owned.
LordDhampire  +   352d ago
You dont just develop a game on another system if your not going to release it....not even crytek has that manpower so no...Im sure they dont know what they are talking about
iamnsuperman  +   353d ago
Well yeh and no. There is so much developers can do with a console (especially early in its life) so they have to decide what are the most important things to push (i.e. limited by the hardware). A lot of developers go for a lower frame rate and, like they did, a lower resolution so they can bolster other areas.

My biggest issue is they keep bringing the reason for lower resolution back to making the game look better (granted not here) but I want them to talk about AI and physics more than how the game looks. Games look good now but they have a problem when it comes to the other stuff (physics and AI). For too long AI has been fairly dumb. It is time developers start pushing that
obelix01  +   353d ago
Having the AI finally be unpredictable.
moegooner88  +   353d ago
Did anyone bother to read the article, he says it is a design choice, he isn't talking about power for either console.
BlueTemplar  +   353d ago
It's implied - nobody designing a game for the next-gen is going to intentionally target 900p rather than 1080p
KonsoruMasuta  +   353d ago
Yes, let's make up things to make ourselves feel better. He never said anything like that.

This whole page is based on blind fanboys putting words in his mouth.
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BlueTemplar  +   352d ago
@KonsoruMasuta Haha why the hell would they intentionally target a lower resolution??

@The diagrees:

You do realize you are actively encouraging developers to not be the slightest bit arsed about developing games for 1080p right?
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MoonWheel  +   353d ago
So you're saying they wanted the game to be 900p instead of 1080p from the start. That is such a total lie. If they could get the game to play in 1080 properly they would have done it.
starchild  +   352d ago
Jeez are you guys really this dense?

By design decision they mean that they chose to have more advanced graphics rather than a full 1080p resolution.

Of course they could have got the game to run at 1080p. But the graphics would have been pared back in some ways.
BlueTemplar  +   352d ago
@StarChild

"Of course they could have got the game to run at 1080p. But the graphics would have been pared back in some ways."

Errr... so the 900p was a compromise to get the performance up to scratch then - i think thats pretty much the exact point people are making.
Consoldtobots  +   352d ago
"more advanced graphics" is gonna be their answer for every title that doesn't measure up from now on.

smh
LordDhampire  +   352d ago
Please tell me this is sarcasm....if not guys at least one chump...I mean sap....I mean valued customer believed the article
FlameHawk  +   353d ago
This guy sure has been talking a lot, so much damage control, and he shouldn't even say that since he hasn't even worked on the PS4.
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andibandit  +   352d ago
Youre right, he could be saying the game cant run on an atari2600, but its bs until he works on an Atari2600

Hmm wait a sec
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OrangePowerz  +   353d ago
Yes of course it was out of their choice to run it in a lower resolution and had nothing at all to do with hardware. Just like it was their choice to run Crysis 2 and 3 on consoles in sub HD and that had nothing to do with the hardware either.

It`s one thing to admit that your game doesn`t run in 1080p or with 30fps instead of 60, but it`s different if you try to spin it around and say it was your choice and had nothing to do with difficulties to make it run in 1080p or 60fps.
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Brix90  +   353d ago
Sounds like bs just based on the fact how do you know if this game isn't being developed for PS4 I haven't heard of any games that have had problems with resolution on PS4 besides BF4. After all this negative news that's come out sounds like damage control like Battlefield developers supposedly pushing X1 now higher resolutions after complaints and now Crytek stating it would be the same problems if it was on Ps4 when both systems have a different architecture.
christocolus  +   353d ago
mr cevat yeril just climbed up the ranks in my books .the guy has got some huge balls to declare stuff like this..and before fbs start attacking him they should know crytek isnt 1st party to ms they are 2nd party hence they most likely got ps4 dev kits too ...anyways besides ryse,dr3 etc im looking forward to the next wave of games coming out next year on the xbx one..those should definitely look even better than what we have now ..thumbs up guys
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corroios  +   353d ago
A game that isnt 1080 isnt next gen... Its that simple. Its an exclusive build just for one machine... There are no excuses... It could even be 1080/30, but lower than that...

Im paying for a next gen console and not for something that doesnt have full HD as standard. We are almost at 2014 and this cant be. The spent millions building the console and at least we should have fhd from the start.
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Mustang300C2012  +   353d ago
One of he most idiotic post I have seen. Well the PS4 isn't next gen then.
DistroyerOfFanbums  +   353d ago
By your logic, Wipeout HD is next gen..
starchild  +   352d ago
Then prepare for disappointment. There are going to be lots of games on both platforms that are less than 1080p and 60fps.

I predict that the majority of games will not be 1080p/60fps.

I don't know why people think that just because it is a new generation that all of a sudden 1080p or 60fps is a given. They could have reached those targets on the PS2 or the PS3, but it's just a matter of what they would have given up. The graphics in games would have been much worse if they had to achieve 1080p/60fps.

You only have so many graphical resources on consoles and most developers are going to choose to push more advanced graphics rather than blind adherence to some resolution or FPS standard.
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THC CELL  +   353d ago
Damage control. I say again it takes a year or so to get used to a new console. Developers won't admit that Xbox is crap and letting down spec if it s a exclusive. I can't wait for naughty dog or mm or God of war developer sm to show these and the Xbox fans up really. Also plantside 2 going to run at full spec 1000 vs 1000 no cuts so bf4 dice and crytek stfu n tell the truth Xbox is a fail.
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_QQ_  +   352d ago
Crytek, the developers most experienced with PC architecture making negative statements against a console that uses near identical PC architecture.... has to be damage control.....that "it takes years to learn the console excuse isn't valid this gen".I'm excited for PS4 too but time to come back to reality fanboys.
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quenomamen  +   353d ago
Tell us again who you know how the game would run on hardware you never developed it for. Crytek are the biggest bunch of BSrs next to MS
TheOneEyedHound  +   353d ago
Agreed.
_QQ_  +   352d ago
You realize the ps4 and xboxone architecture is so close to PCs they can almost kiss it.Graphics wise Crytek is by far the most experienced and capable developers when it comes to PC architecture.There is no "learning the system" this time around.
Sevir  +   353d ago
This is just laughable at it's best, Crytek and MS have been very deceptive... First they claim it was running at 1080p and one month before it releases they say they change the games resolution, now they claim, a system that is quantifiable by specs to be stronger than what they are working on, can't run said software better!... I call bullshit!

If the Xbox One was capable of running a game like Ryse the way it was intended when they demonstrated it at The Xbox One reveal there would be zero need to drop framerates and resolutions while overclocking CPU and GPU for more over head...

The hocus pocus by MS and some of it's affiliates is turning the water Murky every minute. I'm not buying it this for a second... The Xbox one is the only machine that's had drastic measures applied to it hardware and software and this has happened since it's been announced in May.

Spec upgrades to change the clear advantages Sony has over it on specs and power. Sony hasn't downgraded games or announced changes to hardware.

The Xbox One is a weak Next Gen console, capable but weak, and the fact that flagship games for the console are having issues with framerate and having to drop resolutions and make concessions get it to run properly is troubling... PS4 > XBOX One! And the devil is all in the details...
starchild  +   352d ago
He never said the PS4 isn't more powerful. Maybe it's simply not more powerful to a degree that would allow it to run at 1080p.

Oh, and both the XB1 and PS4 are weak next gen consoles compared to high end PCs. They are weaker relative to PCs than the PS3 and Xbox 360 were when they came out.

Why do you console gamers always pretend not to care about graphics when the PC is part of the discussion even though you clearly do. If you care so damn much about graphics you should come over to PC gaming. It beats the consoles every time.
Krosis  +   352d ago
Wasted air on this site. Teh mighty Ps4 rules on N4G...lol

The consoles crowd always has the same delusions every launch--no sense fighting it. Part of the problem is idiots like Cerny spewing half-truths and artificially making claims of power that doesn't exist. Sony always muddles details as market strategy. Reality is, and always will be:
PC>Console(doesn't matter which, they are so close to differentiate--computational fact)

Now it is PC>STEAMbox>console. Consoles are good bang for the buck and have some nice exclusives--but when it comes to power, even at day one launch, they are underwhelming. But what can one expect for $400-500?
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