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Shuhei Yoshida on Remote Play: No need to Set up the PS4 for it, Remote Co-Op Allowed for Knack

As usual SCE Worldwide Studios President Shuhei Yoshida proves to be a gold mine of information on anything PlayStation. This time around he shared some more details on how remote play will work.

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black0o999d ago

''when playing remotely via the PS Vita or Vita TV, a second player can just sit on the couch and play co-op with us on the PS4''

AWESOME!

rambi80999d ago (Edited 999d ago )

Seriously, how much better can this get?

We all complained about product integration and now its better than we could have ever dreamed.

Septic999d ago

Wow....

Megaton and then some.

I did say almost a year ago that the VITA would come into it's own when the PS4 would launch, when all the gloom and doom articles were surfacing. But even I didn't think Sony would take it to this level.

Very impressive. This is no half measure like the MOVE. This is going to be an essential peripheral for the PS4. Keep it up Sony!

Saigon999d ago

All, I can say is wow...

Conzul999d ago

I just bought a new Vita to replace the one I sold back last year. The gamestop is bundling the 3G OLED model as well. I got it for $200, so this is great news!!

UltimateMaster999d ago

Question.
Can someone remote play co-op online on the same account as well?

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Xsilver999d ago (Edited 999d ago )

OMG i might be thinking too far ahead but could the vita TV help with the Split Screen issue, i mean think about it most games can't do split screen but what if the vitatv acts as a hub for another Tv so u could systemlink it so you could have a nice offline co op on two screens thats sounds really cool instead of buying two PS4's. If this comes true i'll be one happy gamer.

rambi80999d ago (Edited 999d ago )

This is exactly what i am hoping. Now to look for that second job to be able to afford all this.

Its also nice that you wont need a second copy of the game.

Xsilver999d ago (Edited 999d ago )

just a hundred dollars for vita tv i could live with that to be able to use it for system link co op.just a PS4 and a vita tv.

Ju999d ago

It's a bit unclear what this actually means, IMO. Because I would understand if a second player jumps in, this is actually a co-op game. But is it? I mean Knack doesn't have a second character. So how exactly will this work with Knack?

And if so, the problem with split screen (from a developer standpoint) is, that you have to render the game twice. And this would also apply to co-op with the second player being on the Vita. The PS4 must render a second perspective of the the game. But yes, this would be awesome if true. If the game actually know, the second screen is a Vita, it would makes sense to lower the res - because you can't play >qHD on the Vita anyway. Lots to happen in the years to come.

nunley33999d ago (Edited 999d ago )

@ju - if this is correct than this method would just be like normal online co-op, no split screen would be seen. this would be a nice lan solution for a 2nd player on a 2nd tv using vitaTV to play ps4 together in the same house or across town.

Mr_Writer85999d ago

@Ju

They announced there is a second character for co-op think he is made of metal and can take more damage so he is aimed at kids.

So you can play the game with a young child and they won't die as much.

ginsunuva999d ago

Coop isn't used too much anymore because it takes a toll on the system to render two instances of players and their views.

Vita TV won't give the system more power magically.

Ju999d ago (Edited 999d ago )

nunley33, no, this is not how remote play works. In case of remote play the Playstation(4) becomes the server and renders everything locally and streams the frame buffer over the network (using a HW encoder - hence no drop in performance for in case of the PS4).

It is not like an online co-op where every "client" renders running it's own engine. In such a case of the Vita being a client the engine would require to be ported to the Vita. For remote play it doesn't (the streaming client is part of Vita's OS).

I suppose, technically it should not be a problem to render twice (same as split screen) but stream one buffer to the Vita. Like I said, if the OS can "detect" this, the second screen can actually be rendered in a lower resolution.

To spin this a bit further, technically you could make this a full MP experience (like online) but still, the server (PS4) will have to render each instance of the client.

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pwnsause_returns999d ago

Sony just set a new standard without us even realizing what it is. and it has to do with that secondary processor. almost everything that is not gaming centric (Streaming, Decoding, etc.) is done with that arm chip.

abusador999d ago

And that's what you call customized hardware. Other companies brag about customization but ps4 has them beat on that front.

joeorc999d ago

@abusador

"And that's what you call customized hardware. Other companies brag about customization but ps4 has them beat on that front."

Grin, the Fact Sony has been investing into this remote play development for over 7 years now..this bodes very well for the functionality as sofar what they have had with live Demo's general consensus is they walked away very impressed with the Experience of the Remote play function between the PS4 and the PSVita.

With the Advanced Arm Cortex chipset's they are using in both the PSVita, PSVita TV since they are fairly upto date. being they are indeed robust enough to do the job. Mark and the R&D Team Over there @ Sony Labs know their Hardware that is for sure.

abusador999d ago

This is the best feature imo , hands down on any next gen console. Remote play the way Sony is doing is just insane!!!!

Sharius999d ago

hey, can someone ask him if i can remote coop play between my vita TV, my PS vita, and 2 of my controllers?

ShwankyShpanky999d ago

Good question... is remote play limited to connecting to only one "portable" device (Vita/VitaTV)? Wouldn't surprise me if restricted to one device, but also seems like the type of thing that could be expanded via FW updates.

nevin1999d ago (Edited 999d ago )

So in other words, Remote Play Is always on?

Because, currently, If I want to use remote play on my PSP, I have to scroll remote play on PS3.

Gamingcapacity999d ago

Not true. You can remote play using your PSP from anywhere in the world.

Once set up (link you psp to ps3), you can turn on you PS3 via remote play from any location with internet and then turn it back off using remote play.

Ju999d ago

But you can't do it mid game. The PS3 must be switched into remote play (can be initiated by the PSP/Vita) but becomes only usable through the client. UI is disabled on PS3.

Gamingcapacity998d ago

In that case yes. But you really wouldn't want remote play if you're sat at your PS3. It doesn't play games except PS1 games and is only good for access to your media files from remote places in which case your PS3 would be turned off.

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