GaminRealm: Emily Rogers, a well-known Nintendo insider on the net, has warned Wii U owners on Twitter that they “better buy Ubisoft games.”
This is asinine. Tell Ubisoft to stop screwing them over and giving them half assed ports. Then that would be more likely to occur. The screwed them over on Ghost Recon Future solder, they screwed everyone over on Rayman Legends, they gave them a glitchy mess for Splinter Cell Blacklist and they are supposed to give Ubisoft money for this? Ubisoft has released like 2 games on the WIi U that were actually worth buying.
How did they "screw" us on Rayman Legends? If you are referring to the delay and multiplatform release that wasn't a screw. They used that extra time put in a ton of content. Its not "screwing" us just because other people with other systems also got to experience the game. That way of thinking has got to go.
the only content they added was the rayman orgins lvls which i have on another disk called rayman orgins. I lovedthe game but i still wish they hadn't delayed a finished product.
No, just the delay alone. The multiplatform release is and always has been a point of 0 concern. There was far more to the issue than that, but it seems the anti-Nintendo zealots have taken to this article(as all articles that infer something negative toward Nintendo and their hardware), so it would be stupid of me to keep posting and getting hammered with disagrees and irrational arguments.
The game was finished and would have been ready to ship within a few weeks of the announcement that it would be delayed. Lots of people had bought a Wii U for Rayman. How exactly is that not getting screwed? As lilbro said, the multiplatform release wasn't a problem. The way they went about it definitely was.
3rd parties will give up on the Wii U pretty soon, it'll become a shovel ware/party game console like the Wii with the exception of certain first party/moneyhat exclusives. Ubi knew Rayman wouldn't sell well on the platform which is why they delayed the release so they could release on other platforms too.
I bought ZombiU and I wasn't impressed. I'll get WatchDogs.. I think two titles from me is sufficient. Quite frankly I think Ubisoft has been a bit boring lately. They hurt themselves with Rayman on WiiU. Maybe it helped them overall, but not with WiiU.
I didn't personally feel screwed. I support Rayman games in all their forms as much as possible. Rayman Legends was my deciding factor on getting the console day one, and I could have waited, but that's the risk of being an early adopter. I ended up buying it for the PS3, since that is my preferred console. I'll likely pick it up on the Vita as well, and one day for the Wii U if it hits $10 in a year or two for collecting purposes.. Other than that, no ubisoft game on the Wii U has really appealed to me enough to buy it. Right now I think everything I want to get is being published by Nintendo, or a Nintendo first party game...so I have the Wii U for exclusives.
Dude atleast they're bringing out games for the console..
That's just like feeding a homeless man fecal matter and saying "well at least their feeding him".
So, in this analogy, you're comparing the wii U to a homeless man and rayman legends to feces?
The wii u is like a homeless person. As it is currently living outside in the rain, All on its own. Whilst other consoles have got homes.
Agreed, Ubisoft have been there since day 1 can't you fanboys be glad about that? Seriously the whole Rayman issue is done with boohoo it got delayed but guess what? The better version was still the on the Wii U! So get over it! ;)
Holiday 2013 will probably be Ubisoft's last push for the Wii U. Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed. If those don't sell, then I expect Ubisoft will bail.
half assed ports? they are the better of the current gen version and the only ones trying to help nintendo where nobody else is willing to.
Nintendo doesn 't need "help" they need good, unique, high quality games on their console and there are plenty of devs doing that. SEGA, Atlus, Capcom, a ton of indies and lesser known third party devs like Shin'en. I can not fault someone for not buying a poorly made, poorly presented game. How much marketing did Ubisoft put into SC: Blacklist on the Wii U or Watchdogs or any other game they have in line for the hardware? Maybe these devs could actually try asking Nintendo fans what they want for once instead of releasing games with stripped content and glitches, then complaining about low sells.
They should go out of their way to market the Wii u version separately?that's Nintendo's job dude, it's their fault people don't know the console exists.
The delay added invasion levels, kung foot mini game, origin levels, 3D bosses, and was used to make it look a little better. They did not sit on there hands during those months. No one stopped you from buying it on Wii U and everyone benefited from the delay.
I'm mostly going to get WiiU version of Watchdogs, but they need to show us what have thy done with the Gamepad.
Its not a screw because we benefitted greatly from the delay. Not to mention we also got the exclusive challenge app to help pass the time. Yeah it hurt that it got delayed, but any title delayed for the addition of thatmuch content is worth it.
But Nintendo doesn't have any leverage Lmao. You either buy it or never get games (which the Wii u desperately needs since its 3rd party support is downright sad.) Talk about failing in epic proportions, Nintendo.
Add to that the BS they pulled with AC3....and ubisoft isn't the great company they might once have been. They still have really good IP's though so they have the potential to be awesome again. Rayman legends looks like a great platformer.
WiiU owners are lucky to have a third party supporting it so well. Its the best third party support they've had since Capcom released a few GameCube exclusives. And really the sales are so low (rayman aside) it would be easier for Ubisoft to skip the system altogether. Zombie U was a much needed game although the system needs real effort. It needs something exclusive that's big like Gears, Destiny, Uncharted, Bioshock exc. A few multiplats like AC, Splinter Cell, and Watchdogs help but they won't bring in other devs because they sell like shit. Nin needs to spend some of their wii/ds money piles on buying studios and support. Should've bought Atlus, Platinum, Mistwalker, and some big western studio like Bioware, Bungie, or some THQ ip's. They need new blood and something other than the usual stuff which sells to the usual people. They should pay EA for Battlefield 4 to release on wiiu, pay Rockstar to release GTA5 same day, get FF15 and KH3 on the system at all costs, get MGS5 on the system, fund exclusives and Indy games. Otherwise the WiiU will be another GameCube. Great games but only Nintendo games and one or two third party exclusives.
It's not Ubisoft's (or any other developer for that matter) fault that developing for the Wii U takes extra effort which many companies cannot afford to spend. Time is money and if Wii U owners aren't buying games then it's not worth it for companies to take a risk on the Wii U.
Look, this is wrong. We have to go, where it all starts. It starts with a studio releasing a game to increase the appeal towards a console. If PS4 and Xbox1 had no games, noone would give a damn about those consoles. So the Studio produces the game, develops it for all consoles. Then you have a huge installbase on current gen and a elatively small one with Wii U. People had 7 years to buy one of the current gens and almost everybody own at least one of those current gen consoles. Why would anybody buy a Wii U, if you get the same game on a console they own right now? Makes more sense to go the cheaper way. So what can you do to make people buy the new console? Attract with special features, exclusive games and so on. And what happend in reality? The best exclusiv game from Ubisoft, which would actually push sales, became multiplat. Then some release games as bad ports = no better graphics, no better gameplay. Then many studios even decide to take away the multiplayer function or something else, which lowers the games quality (ON THIS ONE CONSOLE) even further. So you can choose between current gen, which you already own with full game functionality, over a console which you have to buy first, so you can play half of the actual game. Which is the smarter way to go? Is that actually Nintendos fault? I mean, the lwer specs to next gen has nothing to do with getting half games. Every new console at start has a low install base, to increase it you have to add appeal. To add appeal you need good games, which are at least on par with current gen, but look at Fifa13... a total disaster and this is actually not Nintendos fault, it is the devs fault. If they want to bring half games to Wii U, they should actually not bring it wo Wii U, instead of complaining it didnt sell, when everyone knows, why it didnt sell.
If only you hadn't delayed Rayman.
That game would have sold 500k at least guaranteed giving that it was going to end the drought, and people were still in high spirits for the newly released console. Now I don't even think it has 200k in sales on all of the consoles combined. Delaying that game killed it. I hope they found it worth it.
I love the amount of disagrees we're getting. Taunting customers with a delay like Rayman's damages a company's reputation. I don't feel like picking up Rayman at the moment, because there are bigger games on the horizon.
If they would have taken that opportunity, Legends would have sold a ton of copies. They had that entire window to themselves.
You two are getting disagree's for being such fanboys and being so ignorant to accept what is right and what is wrong, anything nintendo related to you two is right apparently. While other 3rd parties bailed on nintendo, ubisoft still stuck through with supporting them. @libroRx its their fault for not marketing their games on the wii u? Their games are multiplatforms that are marketed to all systems, why should nintendo have speccial treatment? And yet they still do with exclusive contents and more definite versions of their games. Rayman, Assasins's creed, Watch Dogs you name it.. Had they not delayed the game, the game would potentially do even worse considering it's suffering for all 3 platforms altogether but by itself on the wii u? Oh man the profit they would lose is immense.
Where in my comment does it imply that I am a fanboy, let alone ignorant? Ubisoft delayed Rayman and released in a period that makes it compete with massive games, like Battlefield 4, Call of Duty: Ghosts, Watch Dogs and the list goes on.
@Zidane okay then what does the delay have to do with nintendo? The article is about why nintendo fans dont buy ubisoft games, so why are you talking about rayman being delayed only? All platforms were released at the same time.
Actually, nobody can emulate the sales that Nintendo gets, so the bar is raised when it comes to selling well on Nintendo. Most devs don't even market their games. And ZombiU was crap regardless. If that makes us fanboys... so be it.
Might buy Watch Dogs, but not because she said so. ha ha
Exactly, Nintendo fans need to stop acting like they're entitled to everything just because they supported Nintendo's latest mistake. The reason why it seems like the PS and Xbox consoles get all the love from publishers/developers is because Sony and Microsoft keep developers in mind when they design their consoles. Nintendo on the other hand doesn't make the effort to reach out to devs. They arrogantly believe that developers should bow down unconditionally and follow every order Nintendo gives them. Then there's the fan base, PS and Xbox fans actually buy third party games, Nintendo fans on the other hand just buy Nintendo games and nothing else.
Yeah the ps3 was a especially Dev friendly *rolleyes* Still got all the love from Devs.
It was a pain to develop at first but Sony stepped in quickly and sent developers better Dev kits. They were proactive with their relationship with developers. Another thing that kept the PS3 afloat was that people knew it was as capable as the 360. The Wii U is clearly outmatched by both the PS4 and XOne.
Nintendo's latest mistake? The Wii U is Nintendo's best home video game console! I should know I own all of them!!! Alot of people that actually OWN a Wii U really like it. I love it. I'm on mine right now. If you're referring to the fact that it's under powered compared to the Xbone and PS4 boy are you in for a shocking surprise! You're probably right but I don't play specs. I play video games and Nintendo literaly develops the best software in the world period.
Where's the "delusional" bubble for this comment? Lol
Why? What he said is true. Just because you can only play shooters. Nintendo is the only company, that actually produces good console games. PS and Xbox get games, which are not made for console. Best configuration is having a good gamer PC and a Wii U, with that you can basically play all important games, ok not halo, but the rest of it.
From what i've heard Nintendo has never been so active and open with 3rd party devs like with wiiu. So i guess it's good for them. Now I love the way Sony built their ps4 while communicating with the devs. That's the way it should be done. But the endeffect is that the new consoles are little PC boxes. And i already have a PC. And PC will be better in performance than both ps4 and xb1 while not having any downsides (except for exclusives, but that is not really a downside and PC has awesome exclusives as well) I still stand by my statement that PC+WiiU is the best way to go this gen. (unless you have huge amounts of money and get all the systems anyway)
The Xbox One was designed with gamers in mind? That's a laugh. You might want to learn what the word 'entitled' means....you're using it wrong. Wii U owners should support Ubisoft more, but Ubisoft shouldn't be sending threats, delaying finished games, and cancelling projects like Ghost Recon. It goes both ways. I've supported Ubisoft on many consoles and PC. I've bought probably close to 10 Ubisoft games in the last year, four on the Wii U. Using the gamepad on CoD (not ubisoft but another big 3rd party title) was great, only having 1500-3000 people playing multiplayer, that sucked. They did make a mistake with Rayman Legends though. They had a window where it was going to be them and Aliens: Colonial Marines. But then you saw what happened with that game on other platforms and they cancelled it. So you would of had Rayman Legends all by itself in a drought. Soon they are going to start selling the boxed up copies of Rayman they have been holding in storage for the last 6+ months. Except now, there are TONS of games out competing for that dollar. Imagine a movie studio created a movie and had the release weekend and the next weekend devoid of any competition...and instead of release then...you decide to wait 6 months until all the summer blockbusters are releasing on the same day. Then say...'you better support it'. I said 6 months ago they were going to lose sales because instead of competing against no one they were going to be competing against Pikmin, Wonderful 101, Batman Arkham Origins, Call of Duty: Ghosts, Donkey Kong Country 3D, Super Mario 3D World, Zelda Windwaker. Not only that, but look at Ubisoft's OWN release schedule. They released Rayman like 5 days after Splinter Cell. They have Watch Dogs and ACIV coming up. Not to mention two Just Dance games. Sure some of these are coming 1-2 months later. But when it hits August-September, all these games and later start competing against each other for the Holiday dollar. They made the decision to make Wii U gamers wait 6 months for NO REASON, and they are going to lose sales because of Ubisoft's idiotic decisions. They'll get the buzz of a multiplatform launch, but for that they lost Wii U sales. That was their decision. It was an obvious effect. So if they made up their minds to lower their own Wii U sales, why should they then get upset by low sales and threaten to drop support? Doesn't make sense. If sales on the Wii U is so concerning, why did they take one of their finished and anticipated games releasing during a drought and make everyone wait and launch it with 20x the competition?
Well it's easy to sell a console when you have everyone else making your games for you. They buy third party games, because that's all there is. I could care less about Ubisoft developing for Nintendo. Or anyone else for that matter. Nobody makes software like Nintendo does. It's just the way it is.
Just checked on vg chartz the wiiu version of splinter cell blacklist only sold 20 thousand copies worldwide
Yeah lucky they got that in my opinion. I bought that game for wii u and it wasn't even the fact that they left out the local co-op that made me mad. It was the fact that it took them weeks to patch it and it still isn't even working 100% correctly (especially the online multiplayer). There is no excuse for releasing a product so obviously broken because there are probably millions of people who would test these games for free just to get to play them early. The most disappointing fact is that the game probably would have sold better because if it was working it would have been a genuinely good game, but everyone on miiverse was advising other Wii U owners not to buy it because it wasn't working. If expecting a game to work right out of the box makes me entitled then call me the most entitled gamer ever.
How about showing some footage of Watchdog Wii U? That is a good start to get Wii U owners excited for the game. What have they shown us? diddly squat. Other than that, I don't see this situation working for Wii U owners. Nintendo has schedules Super Mario 3d world to be released at the same day as watchdogs and with so many quality games coming out - 3rd party games are going to get eaten up by the likes of Mario and DK. I am afraid this is a losing battle for UBI. Hopefully, when the Wii U does pick up pace, some games might be ported to the wii u
I totally get what she's saying but then again, an apparently vast majority of Wii U players (myself included) haven't been able to play Splinter Cell: Blacklist without some kind of issues (console freezing, bad matchmaking, other glitches) since its launch and Assassin's Creed III's online has apparently only recently been fixed for the same issues. So yeah, I'll definitely support you, Ubisoft (got Watch_Dogs and Assassin's Creed IV pre-ordered) but when I pay +60$ for your game, I expect it to work properly all the way from the get-go.
Yeah, it almost seems like they're sabotaging their own success. I'm sure they'd do it if the price was right...
I will buy them on PC unless the games have amazing gamepad features.
wii u is dead imo,
Don't just make statements. honestly, Nintendo has the money to support Wiiu for the rest of the generation.plus Wiiu still has plenty of exclusive and some third party games on the horizon so how is it dead?
Yea with games that only appeal to Nintendo fans good luck trying to take some of the ps3/360 crowd with those games. ;)
@ LOL_Wut so that means wiiu is dead? a system isn't dead untill a company drops support for the system. And so i guess Only Nintendo fans like Bayonetta,and Only Nintendo fans like Large scale JRPGs?Only Nintendo Fans like Sonic too? forget the 2 million combined sales of sonic generations on ps3/360.So only Nintendo fans like 2D platformers? No wonder LBP was a flop /s.
The Nintendo CoD fanbase had over 1.5 million people 4 years ago. Now it's down to not even 200k and that's not even 1% of the whole fanbase.
Its funny to see how Lol_Wut knows what Nintendo fans want and what the rest wants. That each person is an individual with its own opinions and so on doesnt count in lol wuts view of the world.
Rayman Legends is doing well and will hopefully continue to sell well during the holidays. AC3 online was only recently fixed and that took forever. Splinter Cell Blacklist did not receive local co-op despite the fact that Nintendo is known for couch gaming, the loading times are atrocious, and Spies vs. Mercs is currently broken. I have been looking for every reason to pick it up and will wait until it's fixed. For a launch title ZombiU was great but not everybody wants to play a survival horror game. It's irritating to receive ports that are missing features. If it's not going to be the definitive version, at least make it equal to the other titles on PS360. Nintendo owners know the difference and the sales numbers reflect it (Rayman vs. Black List). I have high hopes for AC4, Child of Light, & Watch Dogs. Nintendo's holiday push looks to be strong.
Rayman Legends is fantastic and the Wii U version keeps getting great reviews. I have it and AC3 with AC4 pre-ordered. I hope as Wii U sales go up this fall good quality game sales including Ubisoft do as well - provided they are good quality without glitches or missing features. If Ubi wants us to buy they've got to give us better products!
Let me get this right? So technically these idiots want consumers to purchase their garbage porting efforts before they will produce quality content? What an idiot. Just boycott them already and invest your cash earnings in something worthwhile where you get decent quality and support as an de facto standard. Speak up with your wallet!
Should be grateful they're even making games for the console.It sounds douchey yh but it's the truth the Wii u Is in a bad place and Nintendo needs to pull up on it quick.
To me it was obvious that Splinter Cell wouldnt do well even though the WiiU version has the best features. There are too many other good games releasing on WiiU atm. Wonderful 101 and Pikmin 3 were the obvious choices to get at the time. And the Rayman and now Zelda... There are so many awesome games coming on WiiU. <3
I'm a Wii u owner and I'll be buying both Watchdogs and ac3. But sadly I'll be getting those for ps4. Sorry Ninty. Keep thosr Zelda games coming though.
Ubisoft i do feel like they want a reason to drop support from the Wii U i give you a few examples first off: Rayman Legends which sold poorly across all the platforms PS3, Xbox360, Wii U which sold the most, Vita, Ubisoft didn't even bother to make Rayman Legends for the 3DS then Ubisoft move the release date from March to September right around The Wonderful 101 and GTA V release date all those errors Ubisoft made, Points to Rayman Legends fail sales all this could been avoided if Ubisoft made Rayman Legends exclusively to the WiiU and 3DS and release in it on there intended month March, As you can see PS3 and Xbox 360 owners just don't play those types of games platformers never sold well on those consoles as for SplinterCell good game but the franchise is not that hot anymore and there are some horrible bugs in the game especially broken multi player freezing and very long loading times on the Wii U version, also Splinter sold very poorly on all platforms Ubisoft got to realize the Wii U owner base is around 5 million the PS3, Xbox360 is around 81 million do the math!
WiiU is dead, doesnt matter.
I hate to be the one to point this out to you but... If you know your video game history you would know the cheapest and least powerful home video game console, I know this is hard to understand, always, everytime wins it's respective generation. Freaky I know!!!! The Wii and the Wii U purposely use older tecnology If you know something about Nintendo you might of heard of a guy named Gumpei Yokoi. Among many other things he did at Nintendo he also was Shigeru Miyamoto's mentor. He had an idea called Lateral thinking with Withered technology. He believed cutting edge technology actually hindered video game development! Irony? He believed that utilizing older technolgy with new ideas could create radical new gameplay! I believe that's the Wii and Wii U exactly. Nintendo develops the best video game software. Nintendo develops indestructable hardware. Familys can trust Nintendo to offer great video game entertainment for everyone in the family. The Wii U is far far far from dead and it's going to take this eighth generation of video games home AGAIN. Better luck next time!!! Ain't nothing wrong with silver lol!!
He only says that to get a reaction. Don't waste your time. He doesn't have anything better to do. He knows Nintendo will do well. He just doesn't like it. The irony is, PC is better than whatever he's playing.
your brain is dead and no it doesn't matter.
LOL Ubisoft was waving that Wii U flag strong since launch. Proud to be one of the "few and the proud". Now... they are starting to realize what everyone has been saying. People buy the Wii U for Nintendo games. I'm not that into Nintendo IPs like back in the day... and the fact the Wii U still isn't getting much 3rd party support just makes me not interested. just IMO. No disrespect to people who love Nintendo and the Wii U
You can't simply port a game to a system and expect it to do just as well as the others, especially with a system like the Wii U, a new system with a smaller install base and capabilities that require a more creative touch. Rayman Legends was a great example of Ubisoft using the Wii U right, but the delay was a terrible idea that insulted those who bought the Wii U to play it. Yes, it got multi-platform sales, but delaying a game to the holiday to compete with GTA V is not a good marketing strategy in the slightest. On the other hand, ZombiU, an original IP that used the Wii U features incredibly well, should've sold better. In that situation, I'd blame consumers for just ignoring great games. This isn't a finger-pointing scenario; both sides need to shape up and get their acts together.
uh so you forcing people to spend money,
Well sort of either support them or expect them to go bye bye. And trust me Ubisoft have been there since day 1 so Nintendo can't afford to let these guys go no matter how much you try to spin it. ;)