Submitted by sigfredod 389d ago | rumor

Xbox One Developers Having Problems with Drivers; Technical Dilemma

Expected for November 22, Xbox One is about to invade the shelves. In the meantime, developers work to finalize titles available at launch. And according to our internal echoes some developers, some problems emerge. (PS4, Xbox One)

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pedrof93  +   389d ago | Well said
Well, that sucks.

I thought Microsoft was all about software ? They also said that on paper Ps4 is stronger but their software would somehow make the difference ?

So ? What about the drivers ?
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xHeavYx  +   389d ago | Well said
Like if it wasn't enough with the bad advertising MS is doing on themselves, developers are starting to speak up
Maddens Raiders   389d ago | Trolling | show
Eonjay  +   389d ago
Drivers are very important and somewhat more important than hardware itself. The basic concept is that if you have a really good driver, you can get the max performance from your hardware. If the Xbox One is going to keep up with PS4, they are going to have to get their drivers in order. I find this news strange because Microsoft announced that (on the same day as the GPU overclock), that the graphics driver had been 100% optimized.

To be realistic though, how does one perfectly optimize a driver for every possible game engine? I'm not sure its possible. Microsoft is clearly running behind schedule.
darthv72  +   389d ago
no offense but is this story old? i mean i recall reading about driver issues at least a week maybe even two weeks ago.

then again, on the internet, things take time to make the rounds. Oh wait, this is from a google translate.....yeah late to the party as usual.
black0o  +   389d ago
is this why we didnt see that many 3rd-party titles running on Xbone ??
Pogmathoin  +   389d ago | Well said
Darth, they brought it back, part of the daily N4G X1 bashing... Ran out of rumours I guess...
tuglu_pati  +   389d ago
MS keep messing up. COme on get it together.

I haven't heard anything good from devs regarding XBO. Games are getting downgraded left and right. Im a Xbox supporter, but i got to say is really hard to get excited about their system with all this bad buzz around. Thank god Im getting a PS4 at launch also.

My only concern is the controller, but there are people in the industry saying the controller is better than the XBO one, so im not too worry
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Pogmathoin  +   389d ago
Tuglu, relax, when it says sources, take it with a tablespoon of salt. Could be just someone posing, having a bad day, a Sony FB who was in the area checking out pre order totals at stores....
hakeem0996  +   389d ago
Drivers always needs updating ,that goes for anything that used them ,PS4 included .Stop approving dumb article just because they anti Microsoft ,let's try to use common sense for once .Whenever your Mac or Windows computer has a driver issue ,you don't write an article about it .
nukeitall  +   389d ago

"Rumor: AMD’s Mantle API is a direct copy of Xbox One’s low level API"


Doesn't look like it to me!
ThanatosDMC  +   389d ago
In Microsoft We Trust.... pfft.. BWUAHAHAHAHA!!!
JokesOnYou  +   389d ago
BS what devs? No names of course..and from tranlate google. Yeah OK, Seen this before with the the anonymous sources and looks as if they are basing this on the reveal of Ryse being 900p, conveniently forgetting Forza5 is 1080p 60 fps which for now better than other competing racing games. The rest of the exclusive lineup has no direct comparisons because they are different kinds of games compared to the competition.
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xHeavYx  +   389d ago | Well said
Hey, look, Jokes playing Devil's advocate again. Pretending that other rumors didn't become a reality and thinking that Devs would openly bash the One and provide their name, DOB, SSN etc.
AlphaTauri  +   389d ago
@tuglu_pati I agree. I've already preordered my X1, but damn, M$ needs to speak up and explain some things - it's starting to get disappointing.
Freedomland  +   389d ago | Funny
Yes, Microsoft needs to upgrade their PR drivers also, they drove straight into the brick wall too many times.
DatNJDom81  +   389d ago
How does this clown have so many bubbles? There may be a lot of Sony fans here, but this site and its moderators are total m$ fanboys. Watch me get banned for like 3 months for saying the truth.
Lykon  +   389d ago
windows 8 LOL
MotoDot  +   389d ago
Dude am starting to hate M$ for real -_- thank god i pre-ordered a PS4 ^-^
MichaelLito79  +   389d ago

Really what bad advertising are they doing?

Please advise
xHeavYx  +   389d ago
Not sure if you forgot the /s or you are being serious, but unless you have been living under a rock, you should know that MS has done wrong PR wise.
Edit: Nevermind, I just saw your comment history..
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Docknoss  +   389d ago
Who is Julien Cheize he wrote it under miscellaneous. How do I know he's not just another rabbid P$fanboy frothing at the mouth to slander The One. I some believe it until I hear it from a reliable source not hear say
knockknockannefrank  +   389d ago
wow all this negative news about microsoft and the xbox one...

perfect time really for valve to move in and take them out
dedicatedtogamers  +   389d ago | Well said
I've been saying this since February when the PS4 was announced: Microsoft was caught off guard and now they're rushing to launch this thing. It was evident at the official May 21st reveal. It was evident when we heard the confused jumble of policies following the reveal. It was evident during the fallout after all the DRM and online requirements were officially confirmed. It was evident at E3, Gamescom, TGS, and every leak in between that the Xbox One was being rushed. From insider reports of faulty parts to PCs being used to showcase X1 games to to the unusually-high percent of 360-to-X1 game conversions in the launch window, it's clear that X1 is being rushed to market.

The last time Microsoft launched a rushed system, we got years and years of RRoD, E73 error, disc scratching, power brick failure, and much more. Buying an X1 is a worse gamble than blowing $500 at the horse races.
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sAVAge_bEaST  +   389d ago

I couldn't agree more. A true gaming company would be very nice, and get rid of the cancerous M$. I would own a Steambox, and Ps4 -that would make a great(true) big three. Nintendo, Playstation, and Steam.

On topic-

I told you xbois. Microsoft has crap drivers,..

Joke.sOnY.ou - I lost 3 bubbles in 3 days, and you went from 2 to 8 in a few weeks, what's up with that?
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Evilsnuggle  +   389d ago
darthv72 today on n4g all the xoxo boys taking crap about the PS4 and it will wacth dogs Will be the same one the xbone one 80 and PS4 . That is wishful thinking xbone is inferior to the PS4. And developer keep saying it and xoxo boys denied it.
UltimateMaster  +   389d ago
@Maddens Raiders
Actually, if the PS4 is 50% better, then the Xbox One is less powerful by 33%.

Xbox One VS PS4
Graphics: 1.2/1.3Tflops VS 1.84TFlops
RAM: 68Gb/sec VS 176 Gb/sec

And developers are having a hard time using the sDRAM that Could potentially boost the 68Gb/sec to 102 Gb/sec, still quite lower than the PS4.

As for the Ghz increase of the Xbox One.
1-We don't know the final specs of the PS4 CPU except for rumours.
and 2-If Ghz were really that important, then the PS3 3.6Ghz would crush them all.
Seriously, there's a lot more that goes into the CPU design to make it more efficient that isn't just about the Ghz.

Just like the GPU isn't just Tflops, but the PS4 has more shader cores, more textures and even more stuff.
Until we know more, some developers said for the CPU side, there could be some improvements.
lfPetrini  +   389d ago
@Maddens Raiders actually PS4 having 50% more power than Xbox One means Xbox One having 33,333% less power than PS4. Please guys do correct math when flaming.
Mikeyy  +   389d ago

Why would Developers who are crital of the Xbox one provide their names, when Microsoft has PROVEN to be a vindictive company?
mewhy32  +   389d ago
Oh great. Lowest common denominator syndrome. This is what ive been saying all along. The bone holding back the PS4.
mcstorm  +   388d ago
Wow yet again the Sony boys are out. Give it a rest for once im sure you guys read up on more stuff about the Xbox one than the ps4.

At the end of the day get the console you want and let people get what they want. If you want halo froze ryse ect you need an Xbox if you want kill zone, gt ect you need a PlayStation and if you want Mario Zelda ect you need a Nintendo console. If you don't want any exclusives and just 3rd party then get the console most of your mates have so you can play them online. It really is that simple people stop going on and on about the same things day in day out about how one console is better than another its just getting old now and the comment section is looking like it is full of moaning old people.
DigitalRaptor  +   388d ago | Intelligent
@ mcstorm

Firstly, it's human nature to flock to negativity. It just so happens that Xbox One and Microsoft have had an unimaginable amount of negative press and attention, whilst PS4 has had barely any negativity surround it, anywhere. So I think you'll find the same fanboys on both articles.

And c'mon dude - PS3 and Sony had the same Xbox fanboys surrounding the conglomerated media circus of negativity, this generation.

Pushing on points that we all know to be true and loyalists still holding down denial mode, is just something that makes sense. Just because reality bites, doesn't mean freedom of speech should be relinquished for the sake of certain others wanting to pretend these things aren't happening.
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HD_GAMER1989  +   388d ago
@everyone who has noticed that jokesonyou went from a steady 1 bubble to 8 in a month or so not to mention the fact that he still is trolling in every ps4 article getting trashed by disagrees and negative bubble votes yet he still hasnt lost any bubbles. Something doesnt seem right here, I dont care that hes a ms shill, I think anybody that uniformed, delusional and completely illogical should never be allowed that many bubbles for the sake of the future of the n4g community as whole not just the playstation side we should all band together and negative vote jokes as much as we can( it wont be unethical either cause we all know he never says anything that is worthy of an up vote lol).

we all have to set a precedent that hacking, cheating or whatever sleazy thing jokes is doing to keep that many bubbles will never be acceptable on this site whether you're a sony fanboy or a ms fanboy.

Something has to be done if n4g is such a giant sony fanboy circle jerk fest like all the supposedly outnumbered xbox fanboys say then this should be easy right lol.
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sigfredod  +   389d ago | Well said
you are right, its a shame that the PS4 user has to be affected for driver problems on the competition hardware
s8anicslayer  +   389d ago
How about the fact that it's (PS4 version) being gimped down because of political reasons? To me that's just laziness all over again because why would a developer reward (Microsoft) for a less than stellar device only to punish Sony for showing up with the PS4? Pathetic!
xHeavYx  +   389d ago
Right, because you don't see Xbox users on every Killzone/DriveClub/Knack article.
It goes both ways
Eonjay  +   389d ago
I find this upsetting personally. Does this mean that my games on PS4 will be crippled (because thats basically the only way to give Xbox One the chance it doesn't deserve if its really that much weaker)? IF this is the cause, Microsoft will be the singular reason for a lackluster generation.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   389d ago
@Heavy you partially right. But it goes more the other way then the other.

@Black point me to the Xbone fanboys in the comments?

And no somebody making sense and bringing their A game in logic doesn't count either.
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black0o  +   389d ago
^^ please go see the playroom drama 70% were xbone fans
MysticStrummer  +   389d ago
@Angelic - That's only because there is more of one side than the other. It says nothing about the severity of the trolling from each side. 90% of MS fans might troll, and 10% of Sony fans might troll, yet there could still be many more Sony trolls.

For anyone goofy enough to wonder... those stats are completely made up to illustrate a point.

This site is definitely pro-Sony, but it used to be very anti-Sony. Times change.
torchic  +   389d ago

worst of all is that Sony went around asking devs what they wanted from a next-gen machine. Sony could've easily put an upgraded CELL + beefy Nvidia GPU and called it a day but they instead delievered on the requests of developers (I know Sony needed to make good with devs this time but my point still stands) and made what sounds like a very enjoyable console to work with.

for devs to not use what Sony has generously given them is a slap in the face. the least they could do as a thank you is to take full advantage of the PS4 hardware.
Ps4Console  +   389d ago
They need to start again Ms I think .
snipab8t  +   388d ago
It's a shame that cross platform games on PC are held back by consoles.
Godmars290  +   389d ago
Yet their blind spot continues to be hardware apparently. They failed to outright buy parts of the first Xbox, both cut corners and failed to do proper quality testing with the 360 resulting in RRoD and damaging disc drives, and now this rumor which may end up undercutting XB1 game development. And who knows what else.
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red_HULK  +   389d ago
If they water down the graphics on ps4 to appease ms and its ailing hardware I'm going pc\steam. I don't want the ps4 getting shitty versions of call of duty and crysis like ps3 did.
MizTv  +   388d ago
I agree
Ever since my 360 got rrod 9 times I have no faith in any hardware m$ makes
At one time I LOVED xbox but they are just not to be trusted
AngelicIceDiamond  +   389d ago
Yeah it sucks but MS needs to get on the ball about this. MS's been talking enough its time they fix this issue.

Unless they wanna delay it for 6 months.
jessupj  +   388d ago
I know you're an avid MS supporter and that's perfectly fine, but can I just say thank you sir for acknowledging the issue the article brought up instead of immaturely and irrationally disregarding it.

Bubble up for you sir.
candoa  +   388d ago
I don't know if you Sony fans have no common sense, if I were to right an article and say the ps4 has driver issues you guys were ignore that article but since is x1 it got to this point, because it's good news. The x1 doesn't have PR issues anymore you might think that because every single "reliable" with no names says something negative about the x1 you guys make sure it gets enough flame to make it here.

If you really are that stupid to see that this site is full of sony fans? come on guys just look who has the most agrees it's obvious are all ps4 positive comments, my 12yr sister can figure that out in 2 minutes browsing this site.
I gotta love those anonymous source I mean is so stupid to take them seriously, if I were to went to the court and tell the judge some random person no names told me whatever they court would laugh at me, because in any intelligent conversion a source most be giving, even in school when you write an essay you must give a reliable source, its common practice in a debate, but not in this site.
I remember reading from the same anonymous source that the ps4 would use 1gb of ram for the OS and it would do everything the x1 does. I was one of the only one calling that bs, and I got tons of disagrees, that clearly shows you how bias and unwilling to see anything objectively. NOw ill sit and wait for the next x1 article, I see it now"anonymous source says the x1 controller rumble features don't work" and the top comment with more than 200 agrees would be "Ms clearly rush the console, im glad I preordered my ps4"
Blaze929  +   389d ago
again with these unnamed "sources"

too bad many wont read past the title. Probably should've put rumor in the title too...
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GiggMan  +   389d ago
They are all about software. The only problem is that they are prone to release stuff half assed and unfinished. I'm a system administrator and deal mainly with Microsoft products so I know first hand. Every version of Windows in the last ten years at least, has been release to manufacturing unfinished and then patched all to hell. They eventually get it stable after all of the service packs and updates (Windows XP for example) and then they release another hot mess (Vista followed XP). Don't get me started on the Server products lol.

Anyway, I would be careful future Xbox One day one owners. MS doesn't mind releasing a product that's unfinished...
Schizoid  +   389d ago
MS is famous for selling their stuff before its ready and then figuring out how to fix it later. The main reason I don't pc game is M$. So that that new steam platform is really starting to look good to me. Since I gave up the thought of buying an xBone I've got $500 that I could use for that purchase instead.
n4rc  +   389d ago
You act like Microsoft is the only tech company to do that..

Its a fact of life... And can we stop listening to unnamed sources.. No name means no credibility.. and likely no fact
KiLLeRCLaM  +   389d ago
Must be graphic drivers..Blame AMD
Imalwaysright  +   389d ago
PS4 is using AMD as well.
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LordDhampire  +   389d ago
its a graphics driver for a custom microsoft operating system, that is microsofts to make not amds
otherZinc  +   389d ago

Lol, at your comment ( if XBOX ONE is going to keep up with the PS4 ).?

No! What standard or goal has SONY's PS4 set...? NONE!
The only goal set was by Turn 10 with Forza 5 Running 1080p "native" @ 60fps! Where's SONY's achievement, what exclusive 1st party game is PS4 putting out that's setting a standard? Nothing.

Also, SONY is saying nothing. SONY's letting it's fans do allthis talking of power with ZERO games to backup all this "talk"!

Forza 5 is backing up Turn 10s "talk" with a game that's 1080p "native" @ 60fps, period!
fghtrer3fb5erg  +   389d ago
lol killzone shadow fall and infamous second son are enough to put xboxone games to shame and forza 5 doesnt look as good as some ppl thought, im glad turn 10 brought out a direct feed cause the off screen videos were giving players the wrong idea, now the direct feed is showing what it truly looks like and it doesnt look better than driveclub even running at 60fps! And, driveclub has better natural lighting.
Nilbog_Juney3  +   389d ago
Guess you didn't hear the news of Forza possibly getting the downgrade treatment like all the other games huh? And I'd rather Sony say little and not make themselves look stupid 3 days out of the week and fix their problems, instead of flaunt all these capabilities and graphics, but have go downgrade everything because the hardware(retail version) can't handle the software. But to each it's own, it's in your face, you just choose not to accept the truth.
Godoftheweek  +   389d ago | Funny

Good, goooood. I can feeeel your anger. The hate and butthurt is swelling in you now like an inflamed hemorrhoid. Let the hate and butthurt flow through you boy. Only your hatred can save you from PS4 fanboys.

With each passing moment you make yourself more THEIR servant. Young fool, only now, at the end...do you understand.

SonyAddict  +   389d ago
You boy are a 10 year old!.
jessupj  +   388d ago
I find it amusing how so many MS enthusiasts keep repeating that Forza is 1080p and 60 fps (it's rumured to be down graded as well) as if that automatically makes the game graphically superior.

You know what other game was 1080p 60fps? Super Stardust. Is that game graphically better than infamous? of course not. The game was less taxing on the hardware and so the developers could boost up the pixels and frames.

The same logic applies to Forza. There not a lot of extra features in the game, such as weather effects and highly detailed backgrounds, so Turn 10 are able to boost up the frames and pixels.

But me personally will wait until we have the games in our hands before I make a final judgement.
Funnymonkey013  +   388d ago
First froza doesn't look that great heck driveclube looks way better at 1080P 30 then froza 1080P 60 and it doesn't have night and weather in froza where drive club does. Plus KZSF and Infamous SS looks miles away better then all X180 games. And facts mate but PS4 is a better spec wise system and should have games running better on it then X180. Anyway have fun with ur weaker system and wavering ur hands a lot with kenect while the true big boys gamers play the best games on the best system PS4.
LonDonE  +   388d ago
Gran turismo 5 set the standard ages ago, with real time dynamic lighting, day night cycles,and weather, how come forza a next gen game on a next gen console has none of these?LOL
It still uses pre baked lighting, LMAO
GT5 is 60fps and 1080p, granted its not full 1920 by 1080p but its near enough, and its a last gen game, and i can guarantee GT5 and GT6 will POWN forza when it comes to physics, gt games always nail the psychics!!! its why if you take any 2 forza games from last gen, and combine the total sales they still cant beat the sales of GT5!!! LOLOLOL

When GT7 is released on PS4 it will most likely obliterate all the forza games on x1, and 360!!
when it comes to racing sims its not even worth mentioning forza, gt always wins am sorry, and this is coming from a every platform owner, and someone who is most likely going to buy a x1, just not at launch, its PS4,PC and WiiU till then for me!!!!
Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II  +   388d ago
otherZinc + 1d 1h ago

Lol, at your comment ( if XBOX ONE is going to keep up with the PS4 ).?

No! What standard or goal has SONY's PS4 set...? NONE!
The only goal set was by Turn 10 with Forza 5 Running 1080p "native" @ 60fps! Where's SONY's achievement, what exclusive 1st party game is PS4 putting out that's setting a standard? Nothing.

Also, SONY is saying nothing. SONY's letting it's fans do allthis talking of power with ZERO games to backup all this "talk"!

Forza 5 is backing up Turn 10s "talk" with a game that's 1080p "native" @ 60fps, period!

Forza uses smoke and mirrors aka baked lighting and NOTHING dynamic... thats why its 1080p and 60fps, you dont know what your talking about,
kickerz  +   389d ago
Oh no.. It's the end of the world as we know it...lol u guys crack me up. Couple of technical faults before launch. Who cares.
Destrania  +   389d ago
You probably should care considering it sounds like you're wasting your money on an Xbone.
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kickerz  +   389d ago
Thanks for your concern Destrania guy. But I'm not worried bout getting an xb1. I'm actually fully pumped. Awesome game line up, amazing online network... Can't wait :D PS4 will be awesome too. Good time to be a gamer
Gamer666  +   389d ago
Yeah, the PS controller froze during a live demo at TGS and the PS nation goes "oh well"... Is that not a driver or hardware issue of some sort?

RUMORS of device driver issues on X1 goes straight to the top of the news at N4G.
snipab8t  +   388d ago
N4Sony is a joke these days. It was not always like this though, back when I was just a wee boy...
Mystogan  +   389d ago
Rumor shrumor.

This comes out now yet we just saw BF4 running smoothly on X1.
thechosenone  +   389d ago
we saw it running smoothly.... with no shadows and muddy textures. dat 720p goodness.
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PFFT  +   389d ago
Really muddy textures. You gotta remove them Sony fanboy goggles brah.
wastedcells  +   389d ago
Well with all the recent news it just makes me feel like I made the right decision this gen....PS4. Xbone has to prove it self and can only do that by playing the games yourself. Too much has been done and said. I don't trust in Microsoft the way I do in Sony right now.
BallsEye  +   388d ago
It's not news. It's all rumor of a rumor from source that got connections. Those sites just feed on sheep, getting free clicks. To remind you, any of us could write the same blog and write same crap, as long as it's pro sony and XO negative, it will be praised.
Did the lil white light on the dev kit turn red??
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showtimefolks  +   389d ago
MS can't seem to do anything right till now, they have to screw up before fixing whatever they screwed up
Evilsnuggle  +   389d ago
Im sorry xbox fans but MicroSCAM have invited all this scrutiny on xbone. With all bragging on how great the launch game look . The problem is MicroSCAM has a alot of P.R spin master used car salesmen and no mark cerny. Yes games look great on pc window 7 titan card that a their new game debut on ever game on xbone looks different now for the worse. MicroSCAM got caught up in the PS4 hype of most powerful graphic. The fact is that PS4 is more powerful graphicly than xbone 50%-30% more. The more microscam PR Department talk about power it keeps making news. Microscam should focusing on xbone one 80 strength not its weaknesses. If microscam should get the conversation of the PS4 strength and on the PS4 weakness. Microscam should focus on xbone game play and fun not graphics. The xbone has a real advantage over the PS4 and its there cloud service. Not the P.R bull crap they are lying about i mean the real advantage cheaper dedicated servers. Before you comeback that sony also use dedicated servers on first party games and have a partnership with rackspace for dedicated servers on PSN. Microscam owns a cloud service and can offer cheap dedicated servers to third party game developer. If i was microscam i would put a spotlight on online multiplayer gaming and stop trying to out sony sony. Nintendo don' t try to compete with PS4 on graphics they use their strength game play and better first party games. Microscam had a big advantage last gen online games in the start of the last gen that put them a head of PS3.
memots  +   389d ago
Problem is they say its a great line up, But i don't think so.

So its more by whom taste.
BOLO  +   388d ago
Don't forget..."We're going to kill Sony at E3" turned into a self-inflicted gunshot wound. lol
kevnb  +   389d ago
microsoft was once great, and they entrenched themselves into everything. Now they suck, but its hard to get away from them.
Villz85  +   388d ago
Very Old story, heavily over exaggerated in a personal blog with no links or evidence.

oh and the end 'dramatic' quote at the end...

''One thing is certain, their launch, the Next Gen consoles already can not compete with today's PC''

It's not trying to compete with PC. PC Gaming has nothing to do with Console gaming... it's each to their own. and some people are taking this seriously?? oh the tears of laughter!

Whoever said 'xbox need to catch up with PS4' made me laugh... who said their behind in a console war that's not even released.

I like the PS4 but this site is dominated by sony lovers constantly pounding the Xbox which isn't even out, choosing to ignore sonys problems and hype microsofts.. and re-release old news too.

It's pathetic... lets get to November then compare which I will personally be in a position to do.
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sak500  +   388d ago
SDF is strong in these last few months. Same time these people crawled out of sewers in 2005/6 to downplay xbox360 launch.

$ony lost half their fanbase from 150million to 75million to XBOX. They have been busy feeding their sheep past few years so that they will crawl out before launch and pollute sites like n4g with negative news against MS.

No need to worry about with their comments nobody will make decisions based on these sony touts. Let them spread their hatred, it's more fun reading their spin on every MS news as they shiver deep down each night hoping the real people out in the world who don't read news here don't ditch sony coming gen again.
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BallsEye  +   388d ago
Source for claims in this article or didnt happen. Probably hunting some clicks and fanboys blow it out of proportions.
BOLO  +   388d ago

M$FT doesn't care for your sensitivity and passion. They're not your lover. M$FT has also been making the wrong moves and Ballmer being canned soon is clear evidence of that. In the mean time...Attached is the XBone's boot theme. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
sak500  +   388d ago
Neither is your grand master $ony. They don't care about gamers just their bottom line. They didn't ditch "teh cell" to make games easy but to save cost as the only people who lapped up their lies current gen were the blind sheep. They hyped it to high heaven more than $ony could have done. Yet the devs spoke by showing their non committal to ps3 on MP games and yet the fanboys claimed that the devs are lazy or give them time to learn. 7 years down the road "teh cell" was ditched by the console maker itself and now the droid army is praising their PC components parts to high heaven.

Jeez these fans are worse than apple sheep. They'll take anything negative of sony and spin it 180 degrees to turn it into positive and do the reverse for any MS news.
JsonHenry  +   388d ago
This seems like a complete reversal from last gen. How the hell is a software company having these sorts of trouble?
GraveLord  +   388d ago
Its PR bullshit. Don't believe anything that comes out of any Microsoft representative. They're in full-on damage control. Phil Harrison in particular just flat-out lies.
TAURUS-555  +   388d ago
lets have a laugh at both Xbox1 and Ms fanboys
sak500  +   388d ago
Whats more funny is that MS fans are less in MS articles then the sony loyalists. These SDF try to one up each other about writing negative comments against x1 and then bubble up and mark intelligent or well said to each other. Site's become a joke. None of these matter in real world where MS took half of sony base this gen. If we all believed these SDF guys back in 2005/6, sony would be at 1 billion units sold, 360 would be dead by 2007. Sony would be ruling the world with ps vita / ps3. Ps4 would be announced for 2020.
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3-4-5  +   388d ago
I have a feeling PS4 isn't going to sacrifice if it doesn't have to and we will see true next gen potential on PS4 in more genres than will be available on Xb1.

Been taking time making up my mind, but after never owning a ps1, ps2, or ps3, I've missed out on so many RPG's, I can't let it happen again, and I don't see many coming out on XB1.
daggertoes83  +   389d ago
Well doesn't that suck. I got nothing to do with xbox one and it's still screwing me over.
xKugo  +   389d ago
This is spreading like wildfire. Really, really, really bad PR for MS.
gaelic_laoch  +   389d ago

Only way to describe it!
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tehpees3  +   389d ago
Xbox One has been nothing but bad PR since announcement. I won't be surprised when XBO is shown to have a bad launch because of these reports.
sak500  +   388d ago
Only in $ony dreamland, i.e. N4G.
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   389d ago
Seems in line with all previous rumors.Nothing but a nightmare so far for MS.They have been way behind on everything.
Mystogan  +   389d ago
Rumor shrumor.

This comes out now yet we just saw BF4 running smoothly on X1.
claudionmc  +   389d ago
... without shadows
Kleptic  +   389d ago
WorldGamer  +   389d ago
This does suck. What I find a bit strange is if I'm making a game and I can prove to MS that it is their drivers and/or development tools that are holding back the X1 version of the game, how could MS be offended if the PS4 version is better?

Also, it would seem like DICE has a very popular game on their hands, what could MS do if they did feel offended? I don't think they would risk not allowing BF4 or future EA or DICE games to be published on their system.

Maybe I'm missing something, but this would seem like it's a MS problem. Maybe I'm wrong.
sAVAge_bEaST  +   389d ago
Yea, I've been thinking about that too,. and I've came to the conclusion that , although DICE may get heat from EA, to make cross-platforms partial.. DICE makes it's own calls at the end of the day,. Since the Ps4 is so easy to render for, it will look better on Ps4.

Since the Drivers are on Microsoft, they can not hold it against DICE, for making the PS4 version a little bit better,. (with future driver updates, bringing up the quality.)
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Godmars290  +   389d ago
Actually, considering the differences in architecture, the PS4 version could wind up looking worse. If devs build down yet fail to compensate for any differences.

If such does happen I don't see how such wouldn't reflect negatively upon the offending, more so if there isn't a repeat of this gen with in-house Sony titles and some 2nd/3rd party titles look and perform visibly better. More than even MS 1st party titles.

Whatever those are...
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GamerXD  +   388d ago
You're a complete moron. PS4's architecture is way better than XBO. Cause it's easier to code for, while X1's architecture is a little bit complex. Plus, PS4 is 30% more powerful, what ya' talkin' about? and devs started speaking, the games itself showed it.

BF4 on PS4 > XBO BF4
Watchdogs ps4 > WD X1
IHassounah  +   388d ago
You do know that both use the same architecture ? they both use the same architecture of the PC , also if you saw the PS4 and Xbox One version of Battlefield 4 , you won't realize difference , also if you saw the new leaked Xbox One gameplay of Watch Dogs , you'll see that the game actually have better physics on the Xbox One , the game looks slightly better on the PS4 .
And finally Metal Gear Solid V looks the same from every aspect on both systems
GamerXD  +   387d ago
Of course, i know both uses x86 architecture.
What I said is "a little bit complex"

"you'll see that the game actually have better physics on the Xbox One, the game looks slightly better on the PS4"

How can you tell that? It's a leaked video, you haven't even played it. And looking better? all Watch dogs PS4 demos are running on PS4 while Watch dogs X1 demos are running on PC. Same goes for BF4, their using PC builds. Have to agree with you about MGS, almost no difference.
AbortMission  +   389d ago
RROD 2.0
sak500  +   388d ago
They'll be YLOD 2.0 as well.
GamerXD  +   387d ago
Go away.
gamertk421  +   389d ago
The article has no fact, just rumors. No sources quoted, and the translation is not great. I'll hold off on taking this as truth.
torchic  +   389d ago
we've been hearing about this since May. here an Avalnche dev (not anonymous):

m.gamespot.com/news/just-caus e-dev-ps4-more-powerful-than-xb ox-one-right-now-6408781

- don't know why that link is not clickable, sorry.
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Destrania  +   389d ago
It's a mobile site link is why.
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Ripsta7th  +   389d ago
Internal echoes?? Wth wat kind of source is this lol
thechosenone  +   389d ago
why the best kind of course.
kenmid  +   389d ago
I wanna say hello to all the PS4 fanboys.
zippycup  +   389d ago
whatsupppppppp fanboy here
Majin-vegeta  +   389d ago
You're finally joining the darkside aka PS4 territory??:0
Tooly  +   389d ago
the darkside mwhahahahahahahahahaa cough*chokes help me.
kickerz  +   389d ago
Ps fanboys are like my mates annoying little dog, biting at my heals. Just wanna kick them in the face. Their like a dirty virus spreading into every Xbox article. when I play dead rising 3 on my Xbox 1 I'm going to imagine all the zombies are ps fanboys haha
WeAreLegion  +   389d ago
Dirty virus? Lol. Took a screenshot of your comment.
kickerz  +   389d ago
Thanks bro. I feel honored :)
thechosenone  +   389d ago
Let me know if it runs smoothly...dat feel of 30fps.
dmitrijs88  +   389d ago
xbots are like zombies
Destrania  +   389d ago
More like occasional 30fps, averaging at 15fps.
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kickerz  +   389d ago
No hard feelings guys. Just having a sat morning joke around.
To be honest shouldn't we judge games, after they are released. Not before hand when developers are still doing tweaks and stuff.
red_HULK  +   389d ago
Xbox has a good network but they lack good exclusives. Forza is decent though. Halo was way over rated part 2 was good, part 3 and 4 negative. Halo wars....mouth fart. Fable mouth fart. Gears 1-2 awesome, gears 3 letdown. It bugs me they downgraded ryse. That and titan fall looked like the games to get. But with ryse getting gimped down and titan fall going to PC as well might just do PC. Dead rising 1&2 blow big time. I do prefer live and xb controller over psn and dual shock 3. I'm gonna give Sony and steam a try this time around. They both seem to care more about the core gamer. That's another thing that pisses me off I don't wanna buy kinnect. I didn't last time and now they're making me...I don't think so. Maybe if they had a standard console and fix hiccups I would buy. Right now road too bumpy.
4logpc  +   389d ago
Again no hard evidence.
bigboss1990  +   389d ago
I hope Microsoft burn they've ruined gaming. Why don't they just admit there consoles rubish lol
sak500  +   388d ago
If it weren't for MS you'd still be playing on ps2. Like most sony fans here you don't seem to be well educated. Google the difference between "there" and "their"
SpideySpeakz  +   389d ago
Looks like the PS4 will be dominating next-gen after all.
Sevir  +   389d ago
A French Publisher and an Publisher... EA is American and Ubisoft is french. Oh MS. Here we go
XboxFun  +   389d ago
So why was this approved when there's no proof, source links or any other kind of evidence needed that would suggest this be true?

Instead we get "internal echoes"
black0o  +   389d ago
how many 3rd-party titles were running on xbone ??

take a look at ps4: AC/Watch dogs/division/destiny/deep down/resoguns ....... etc

is that enough proof for ya
xKugo  +   389d ago
Deep Down and Resogun are Sony exclusives, though.
XboxFun  +   389d ago
What proof, did Ubi say it wasn't running on X1?

Every developer on N4G said BF4 for X1 wasn't true because no one saw it and sure enough it was shown.

So just because we haven't seen it means it won't ever happen?

You guys are fooling yourselves.
black0o  +   389d ago
@xkugo since titanfall is an xbone exclusive and we didnt see it actually running on xbone? so that why i included deep down ;)
thechosenone  +   389d ago

umm..because they were using the DS4 for all their demos?
PFFT  +   389d ago
The Need For Speed demo at gamescom was using the DS4 as well BUT then the Pc crashed to the log in screen.
IHassounah  +   388d ago
The Division Gamescom trailer was Xbox One footage , also Forza 5 was fro the whole beginning running on an Xbox One , also ; http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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Hicken  +   389d ago
Perhaps all the issues XB1 games and versions of games are having is evidence enough?
XboxFun  +   389d ago
What issues Hicken? You mean the lower than expected poly count for Ryse? That means nothing to actual gameplay or design? Just like how KZ can't maintain 60fps that means nothing to gameplay or desing?

Did you miss the other articles of the hands on games like Ryse, Deadrising 3, Forza 5, Killer Instinct, BF4?

But yet this is such a concern to you? Internal echoes and unnamed sources?

It's funny that unnamed sources are always spreading rumors because as you might make the excuses they don't want to piss of MS.

And yet we get named devs who are outspoken and put on record about MS's policies, DRM and practices. Wouldn't they be afraid of MS backlash?
miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   389d ago
Of course Hicken agrees with no name Devs that speak up. All rumors and hear say. Remember all the downclocking rumors? Ya.. exactly.
Hicken  +   389d ago
And the framerate issues on Dead Rising. And Killer Instinct's paltry performance specs. And the lack of actual on-hardware footage of virtually everything, at this point.

THOSE issues.
IHassounah  +   388d ago

Also this is a vid proving that they shown there games on an Xbox One ; http://www.youtube.com/watc...
maniacmayhem  +   388d ago
Deadrising 3 was in development and it has already been confirmed by Capcom and others that the framerate issue has been fixed and locked by devs. But this...

Killer Instinct's paltry performance???

Hicken you are an absolute liar, please use you last bubble to back up that made up statement please.

You ride the backs of other sony trolls on this site and just spit out what you see from them but not one person has said KI had a "paltry" performance.

How about instead of just regurgitating what you see from others you actually look at KI and see what a great game it's shaping out to be.

And this is from a person who didn't even like the old KI.




Paltry performance?? GTFO!
Hicken  +   388d ago
720p? For a fighting game on next-gen hardware? And they're making sacrifices to ensure it runs at 60fps?


"Anything added to the game that doesn’t allow us to run at 60 is removed or optimized."

It's a freaking fighting game. It's not Killzone or Forza. There's just the two characters onscreen, and a minor amount of background movement. Why the hell are they needing to make sacrifices?

Sorry, but I call that paltry. Can you REALLY look at Killer Instinct, see those numbers, compare them to everything else that's doing far more at higher resolutions and framerates, and say that's NOT weak?

Or was this just another of your attempts to discredit me without actually having any real way to do it?

Yeah, seems like the latter.
maniacmayhem  +   388d ago
You are absolutely full of #$^*, you are desperately trying to come up with any exscuse and it is coming off as a lame troll attempt.
Did you see the videos, where is this "paltry" performance?

because it's not in 1080p?? That's why it's a paltry performance? Please kindly STFU. Not being in 1080p has NOTHING to do with it's performance you troll.

"There's just the two characters onscreen, and a minor amount of background movement."

Two characters on screen, with multiple, simultaneous movements, plus the details on the characters, not to mention timing in button presses to create combo strings, blocks and or combo breakers and whatever else this game might include (cancels, move queues, etc etc.)

"minor amount of background movement."

OH MY GAWD! Did you watch the videos? Some of the backgrounds (Jagos) are completely being demolished as the fight moves on. Do you see the detail on Thunder's level?

I love how you have no solid proof of your own and just like to call out paltry. The game has been getting praise by every fighting fan that has played it.

Your Sony blinders are so fit tight that now your argument is "every game has to be in 1080p". Once again you are moving the goal posts and desperately trying to come up with any lame excuse to down a game that is getting some positive buzz.

Again I always see you in sony articles begging for xbox trolls to stay out but here you are trolling with lame information as usual.
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objectivePSfan  +   389d ago
If ps4 games get downgraded for "political reasons" I think we can all give a huge FUCK YOU to MS.
Roper316  +   389d ago
I give that to MS anyways after all the BS, flip flops & spins they have pulled the last few months. They lost me as a XB customer for good.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   389d ago
@Roper We know that? How many times you gonna keep saying that? MS lost you a customer 6 months ago.

Good for you bro.
EXVirtual  +   388d ago
Not all games will be like that, that is if they're made on a very high level and then ported down to each consle, but a lot will be.
I just hope later on in the gen, the PS4 really shows the difference between the two.
Goku781  +   389d ago
Can't say this article is real, but everyone by now has heard the rumblings of this before on a lot of sites.
quenomamen  +   389d ago
PS4 pre orders jump 3%
AngelicIceDiamond  +   389d ago
But then again that Battlefield 4 on X1 looked pretty good. My guess is MS isn't behind with all its drivers for all 3rd party devs.
RiPPn  +   389d ago
I knew I was going PS4 at launch and possibly a Bone sometime down the line after a price drop and redesign. But now with Steam Machines and Steam OS, this gen for me will be PS4 and Steam, and I couldn't be happier. No more Microsoft BS, can ditch Windows and Xbox and put that greedy company in the rear-view mirror.
Schizoid  +   389d ago
This is exactly what I'm thinking. And since I'm no longer getting a xBone I got a $500 head start.
red_HULK  +   389d ago
Hell yeah and I can play steam box with my ps4, ps3 or 360 controllers. I'm psyched for steam box. I just wish the games were cheaper than the disc versions. I don't get how mw3 is still $40. Sounds like xbl or psn
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Ko_Uraki  +   389d ago
So the multiplatform games will not be better on PS4 because of "political" reasons, but the xboxone exclusives will be better or not inferior too. There is something that I don't understand...
dodo101  +   389d ago
How could somebody still have faith in MS after all this trouble BS PR talk?
twinspectre  +   389d ago
only http://commenti.kataweb.it/... and it is blind too XD
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Deadpoolio  +   389d ago
Cause the Micro$haft defense force and the One80 defense force love having a fist up their sphincter....They love to just argue that it must be a lie because someone wasn't named, cause that surely couldn't be because someone doesn't want to get fired....Everything is a lie when it's something negative about the One80
xKugo  +   389d ago
If this happens, consider me a PS4 exclusives only gamer. I will not except gimped version of games on consoles because one company chooses to have either parity or nothing at all. That's utter BS and a philosophy that hinders forward progress. Making my PC build before the gens starts look SO good right now. This article is going to blow just like the EDGE one did(the two are scary similar). Kind of wondering what Sony is thinking right now.....

Methadone  +   389d ago
I'm pretty sure those idiots over at Mr.X Brainwash Emporium are saying this is related to most developers not having the super-de-duper 5TF drivers yet for the Volcanic Island gpu.

It's like this...Xbox will no longer have the breathing room to get political on developers unless they lose more spending to buyout equality for their gimped console than actually making on it in the first place.

Dropping polygons, resolutions etc....by the time they finish the only thing left to drop will be the Kinect so keep your fingers crossed Xbox fans.
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MasterCornholio  +   389d ago
Mr. X claims that Microsoft will enable the 5TF GPU once developers get famliar with the Xbox Ones APU.

Seriously who is going to believe that?

Nexus 7 2013
Methadone  +   389d ago
I find emails from the Nigerian Prime minister wanting my bank account info to deposit 200K$ for picking up a container of gold for his daughter moving to America more believable than Mr.X and his bullshit..

How bout that NDA Cornholio? lol
Deadpoolio  +   389d ago
But wait weren't they just waiting for the NDA or whatever to expire on the 29th so they could spring it like a trap....Cause we all know that non disclosures are also non develop also....So now we have to wait till developers get familiar with the APU before we here about their Clouseau like plan?
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chrissx  +   389d ago
I feel bad for the early xbone owners,just like the early 360 owners.I can smell a RRoD episode allover again
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fsfsxii  +   389d ago
So thanks MS, multiplats fucked again thanks to your inferior platform and shit like policies
SmokingMonkey  +   389d ago
Thank Science for Sony exclusives!

I can't even imagine what Naughty Dog's cooking up.
Deadpoolio  +   389d ago
Whatever it is we know it will be god damned amazing
Brix90  +   389d ago
So the bad news for Xbox one just keeps coming.
theXtReMe1  +   389d ago
Sony needs to start shoveling some money out to get these developers to change their minds about gimping the PS4 version in lieu of the Xbox Ones driver issues.

I find it incredibly irritating and mind blowing that any one company would gimp a version of the game just to satisfy a manufacture of another system because they can't get their crap together with their driver implementation.
My_Outer_Heaven  +   389d ago
I certainly hope they don't downgrade the game so they look on par with each other.. screw MS! Please developers, just make them look awesome on PS4 and lower the quality on Xbox One. They will still sell games on both systems but over time more will gradually sell on Sonys new console.

Downgrading for "political reasons" is stupid!
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corvusmd  +   389d ago
I agree, don't down grade the game and multiplayer experience to PS4 standards...

There hasn't been a single proven case where they would have to downgrade ANY game for the PS4 because of the XB1...in fact it's starting to look more like the opposite is true. Other than fanboy rumors or spins, no one has ever confirmed this will have to happen. If there was really that huge of a gap, we would have heard it on day one...PS would be ALL OVER IT...but they can't go around saying it cause it's not true...only fanboys can.

This article even said that it's an issue that also effects PS4...now issues as far as framerate and resolution shouldn't have any issues if they need to downgrade a game from one system to another. The games are handled by different teams for each console anyway. All games on PS4 and XB1 will already be upscalled to 1080p anyway, so if PS4 was able to make it pure 1080p and XB1 wasn't, there would be nothing stopping them...so saying that ANYTHING has to be downgraded on PS4 for XB1's sake is just garbage...these games aren't being ported from one to another, they are both coming from PC builds this gen.
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Cherchez La Ghost  +   389d ago
Did anyone read the article?! And what was said in the end?!
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