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Watch Dogs is 30FPS on PS4 & Xbox One

Watch Dogs will run at 30FPS on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, creative director Jonathan Morin has told VideoGamer.com.

"Right now the frame rate we're focussing on [is] a steady 30[FPS]," said Morin speaking to us at Eurogamer Expo this afternoon. "There's always a balance, especially for open world, between the simulation and the rest.

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gaelic_laoch1005d ago

It would be an awful shame if it turns out the PS4 got a gimped version!

solar1005d ago

This is your "Next Gen". Still years behind. It's laughable and totally infuriating at the same time. We are being sold a bill of goods.

Nekroo911005d ago

its their choice to make the game realistic, or your forgetting that when gta sa was launched it was locked at 25 fps unless you went to options....

georgeenoob1005d ago

Not surprised. A 60fps open world game with graphics like that isn't supposed to happen at the beginning of a new gen.

JP13691005d ago

What part of cross-gen launch title are you not able to understand?

DragonKnight1005d ago

I love how many people are b*tching about 30 FPS for games that DON'T NEED 60 FPS. Seriously. You people are whining about frames per second in a game where your response time isn't affected by frames per second. This isn't a shooter or a game that requires immediate response time. It's an open world game where you're supposed to take your time. I also find it laughable how many of you just ignore the development vision of some of these games and how developers may want to put the resources that would be used to make a game 60FPS into something that matters more to the game world in some way.

Get over the 60FPS. The human eye sees at variable FPS dependant on many factors so most people won't notice the difference unless they've been experiencing it on a normal basis. And for those of you that have been, suck it up nancy or stop playing on consoles and go back to your precious PCs and leave the rest of us alone.

solar1005d ago

Keep accepting a lower standard from these "Next Gen" consoles. All we have been told is about how powerful they are.

DragonKnight1005d ago

Low standard to who? You? I don't care about what your standard is. What if my standard places story or gameplay above petty non-concerns like frame rate? Is the frame rate going to help me understand why the antagonist is a an a$$hole? Is the framerate going to affect my opinion on how beautiful the art design of the game is? No. It won't. Standards are subjective. Where you throw a hissy fit over framerates, another won't care. Besides, you don't have any idea as to why these games are not at 60FPS but you automatically jump on "THE CONSOLES ARE UNDERPOWERED!!" Absolute lunacy.

thechosenone1005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

And yet when you look at a game like The Division which is next gen only, it runs at 1080p/60fps and is open world.

MGSV which is a cross gen game will run at 1080p/60fps...so I can't understand why WD can't run at 60fps.

DragonKnight1005d ago

@thechosenone: Based on those two examples, it's not that WD CAN'T run at 60FPS, it's that Ubisoft has decided it's not necessary to run at 60FPS. They've decided that those resources are better used for something else.

Jaqen_Hghar1005d ago

"I am a 3d animator and have worked in the movie and video game industry for over 10 years and you fanboys are the worst wannbe tech people on planet earth. You have taken this 60fps bull crap and mutated it into your little calling card to validate the power of a system and for that you are stupid, ignorant, and totally lame.

When you go to a movie and watch legendary films like Star Wars, Full Metal Jacket, or The Avengers what the hell frame rate are you looking at you clowns???!!!!

When you watch Monday Night Football or an NBA baseketball game or the morning news what frame rate are you looking at you fools???!!!

Do you notice the difference between the look of a movie such a Star Wars to that of an NFL football game you idiots???!!!

Of course you do and it's all because of the mutherFn' frame rate. For movies the frame rate is 24 frames per second you stupid goons! And for an NFL football game or the morning news the frames per second is 30 frames per second you freaks!!!!

Frames per second is an artistic choice, it determines the LOOK of a game i.e. do you want your game to look and feel like a cinematic movie or do you want your game to look like a broadcast which is 30 frames per second or 60 frames per second for video games!!!!

Sure, it says a lot when you can turn on every graphical feature and your game can purr along at 60 frames per second but that's not the POINT of 60fps!!!! Again, it's a determination of how you want your game to look!!!

I personally prefer my game to MIMIC a movie. I want my Star Wars game or Lord of the Rings game to look EXACTLY like their movie counter parts which means they CAN"T operate at 60fps because that IS NOT a cinematic frame rate, that a video or broadcast frame rate!!!

So please, you idiots who preach this nonsense, just shut the F up!!! You don't have a clue on what you're talking about.

Everyone else- PLEASE copy and paste this message to educate the idiots!!!!

SMH

eman3d out!"

360ICE1005d ago

Well, your "current-gen" started out with blurry mess Need For Speed Carbon at 20fps around the bend, and it still managed to give us Most Wanted. Everything is gonna be alright.

Animal Mutha 761005d ago

@Jaqen_hghar

Wow.

I hate fanboys almost as much as I hate Pikeys and door to door salesmen but I'm not sure if I should congratulate you and say well said ( you are right in essence ), or express shock that somebody of your profession/education/expertise would get so wound up and resort to a tirade of abuse like that (just not the way you said it).

I've given up trying to have rational discussion with most people on this site which i have previously descibed as the 'Sunday sport of gaming news' and ' a Sony gang bang'.Perhaps you too should look for a more enlightened audience elsewhere - maybe gamers over 30 like ourselves.

If you find such an place where reason and common sense prevail please let me know so I can come with you :)

Vegrad4151005d ago

@DragonKnight

The problem with that thinking is that 30 fps 'might' be smooth enough, but only if stays at 30.

60 fps dipping under occasionally is much more bearable than 30 dipping down to 20. All these devs saying they are 'targeting' a set fps should make sure the game never gets BELOW the target, not that it runs at target but dips under 50% of the time.

patterson1005d ago

@solar

I'd much rather have a game with eye candy at 30 FPS, then bland textures at 60 FPS.

To each their own.

DaGR8JIBRALTAR1005d ago

I'm starting to lose hope.....fast!

DragonKnight1005d ago

@Vegrad415: Well yeah, dips aren't fun but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about people losing their minds because a multiplat cross-gen game is at 30FPS. The game is playable at 30FPS but look at the fanboy hate tirade as if to say it's not playable at all, like they can't enjoy it at 30FPS. That's pathetic.

Vegrad4151005d ago

I mostly agree with you. I play pc games quite a bit but I put up with 30 fps console games.

I feel like the fps dips are relevant though, because devs this gen seem to be okay with adding more post-processing at the cost of fps. If they say their target is 30 fps, I know that means less when there's a lot on screen. Even as a pc gamer, I would be okay with 30 fps IF they truly kept it no LOWER than 30.

Ps4Console1005d ago

Go to YouTube check the difference out between that amazing E3 footage & the game now you will literally be amazed at the difference .

blackmagic1005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

@Jaqen_hghar

Most HD sports channels are 720p60 with some premium ones being 1080p60, HD news networks are 1080i30, HD movie networks can be 720p60, 1080i30 or 1080p30 and they all use a 3:2 pulldown because film is 24fps. Most HD broadcast tv today is shot 1080p24 and also uses 3:2 pulldown and broadcasts at 1080i30 or 1080p30.

Film is shot at 24fps because of very old standards based completely on the physical film media. Rolls of film were/are expensive so the less needed the better. Also, a higher framerate would mean that distribution would become more difficult due to the physical size of a roll of film that would need to be sent to theaters. Also, shooting at 24fps comes with a very rigid set of rules. For example, when panning the camera, there are very specific rates that need to be avoided because stutter is very evident at those pan rates. 24fps film is also flashed at 48fps in theaters (twice each frame) to help limit the eye's perception of stutter.

All of that is changing now though. The Hobbit was shot at 48fps and Cameron, that crazy canuck, is shooting the next Avatar movies at 60 fps. HDMI 2.0 was just announced and it supports all the way up to 4k resolutions at 60fps (possibly 120, still unclear) and LG has been showing 120fps 4k content on their UHD displays behind closed doors all this week at CEDIA.

I would expect someone who works in the animation industry would understand that the reason that film is still at 24fps actually has more to do with industry standards than anything else. You want your content to fully penetrate the market, to wring every last dollar out of every single possible viewer that you can and you can't do that if you create content that can't be played in every single venue so until higher standards are more universal we are stuck with 24fps in film but that is changing.

lilbrat231005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

Amen to DragonKnigh. The game looks awesome at 30-FPS (Which my eyes could probably not tell the difference anyways). What I am pissed off about is that ALL the other consoles get on Nov. 22 and PS4 gets it on the 29th. WTF? I love that you can go into another players game and hack, Sweet.

UltimateMaster1004d ago (Edited 1004d ago )

You do realize that if a game is gimped for the PS4, chance are it's going to be the same port for PC, like it has for years for many games. Not all games, but a port nonetheless.

We want developers to start using more potential, not only of the PS4, but PC as well.

Maybe even that so-called-cloud that Microsoft's been gloating about that boost graphics, that could be used.

If the games are just identical ports then what's the point to all this higher technology? It's just being wasted away.

We want the best experience regardless of the platform.
Don't limit our experience.

solar1004d ago

oh DragonKnight. you are a funny chap. keep it up i like to laugh at you :)

AdamBombastic1004d ago

Oh my this is just sad. Maybe the guys comparing 24hz in movies to 24 fps in games should read a book or something instead of posting here.

http://gamasutra.com/blogs/...

24 fps is almost unplayable in most games. 24 fps is an "artistic expression"? xD

ShinMaster1004d ago (Edited 1004d ago )

It all depends on the type of game.

Watch_Dogs isn't a fast paced twitch competitive shooter.

Movies are 24fps. To me, a game with solid 30fps feels more cinematic.
Have you watched any TVs using motion interpolation features? Movies feel like cheap soap operas.

AdamBombastic1004d ago

@ above:

What does the soap opera effect have to do with gaming? Oh uh...absolutely nothing! That is caused from motion smoothing of 24hz content (film) to cable broadcast (30 or 60hz). Well you should get yourself a cheap PC, cap your framerate at 24 fps and see if the feels "cinematic". Its not apples to apples chief.

Cernunnos1004d ago

Indeed. Will be playing this on PC with 60fps+ and 1440p.

Dynasty20211004d ago (Edited 1004d ago )

Yeah, it's almost like the PC users were right all along about the hardware capabilities.

"Next gen" my ass.

NOW we will see the flood of "it's all about gameplay, not graphics" excuses like the Xbox fans are saying about RYSE's downgrade as the Xbox isn't powerful enough.

Yet yesterday everyone was arguing that the next-gen consoles were more powerful than PCs.

Smacks of pride-keeping to me.

Yesterday: "Hah, stupid PC elitists. The PS4 and Xbox One will be just as powerful! lol PC nerd losers!"

Companies announce graphical downgrades due to hardware limitations, 720p instead of 1080p, and 30fps instead of 60fps.

Today: "Yeah..well..who cares about graphics. It's all about the gameplay."

You console fans are like a bunch of kids.

BOLO1004d ago

No this is your "Law of Diminishing Returns". Next gen starts when that Law says so.

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Maddens Raiders1005d ago

@gaelic_loach - it's an awful shame /already/.

Beastforlifenoob1004d ago

Ive had enough people are saying "Remeber when ps3 was out so and so game was running at 30fps" Well PS3 at a extremely hard tech called cell tech and now the PS4 runs on x86 architecture which has been in use for years so what you get it what you will always get even 7 years in the future there will only be slight improvements and also learn about depreciating returns

Dynasty20211004d ago

Well I'VE had enough of console fanboys spitting in the faces of PC fans, when it turns out that the PC fans were right all along.

The "next-gen" hardware in the consoles is too old, already.

irepbtown1004d ago

I think people should go back to the article and read it again.

"Right now the frame rate we're focussing on [is] a steady 30[FPS]," said Morin

They are focusing on 30fps, nothing in the article says that 30fps is definitive like the articles title suggests. What I've understood from the article is that they will make sure the that the fps doesn't drop below 30.

And no Dynasty2021, look at how drastically the PS3 games evolved; Compare Resistance FoM to say The Last of Us, or the First Uncharted (Drakes fortune? I forgot) to Uncharted 3. Heck, look at Multiplats, GTA V, how R* did it with 8-9yr old hardware is unbelievable.
Don't ever write off consoles, I will say PC will always be one step ahead (technologically), but Consoles will always have the devs who will create games like Uncharted/TLoU, GTA and so on (same can't be said for PC).

Enough with my rambling, I expect 60fps to be the norm next gen but not necessarily at release or even 2014.

Mystogan1005d ago

How cute, he thought that there's this huge difference in power between PS4 and X1. He thought that PS4 can do 60FPS.

This proves that there is no %50 power difference.

Angels37851005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

Or it just says that's its not practical financially or good for public relations if one version shipped better than the other.....as some devs have stated in edge...this may be one of those instances....the multiplatform model doesn't really work for better versions. Some devs will take advantage some won't. As stated in edge time will tell. Or 60 fps wasn't a target for the team (not every dev team will optimize)

gaelic_laoch1005d ago

It proves Turd Parties cannot be trusted to get max potential out of the PS4 for fear of upsetting their paymasters!

We all knews this would happen but the PS4 Secret Sauce includes a large dash of ND

KING851005d ago

I think the situation is that many were under the perception that next- gen consoles would perform on par with PC. It simply won't be the case with some games and that is something that we all need to accept.
The Xbox 1 and PS4 will be impressive and will continue to be optimized throughout its lifespan. Yet getting open world games to run at 60 fps at the scale of grand theft auto is asking a lot from devs without thinking there will be compromises.

Syclonus1005d ago

weird i thought infamous was 60fps...

falviousuk1005d ago

Just mark up troll alert and move on, they are abundent on here, they even try to convince you they are not then go on to troll every article slating the xbox while praising the PS4 even though neither system has been released.

Both systems will be great, both will have great games and both will have poor games.

Same as its always been just like the sony trolls will continue with their smear campaign even though they are not interested in the xbox console. They spend more time slating the xbox than actually gaming.

Be a real gamer, not a sad troll loser

KwietStorm1005d ago

You meant you'd like this to prove it, when it really proves nothing.

pyramidshead1005d ago

You know you're reaching when you use a cross-gen, cross-platform launch game to quell your insecurities about the power of your system of choice ;).

Zeref1005d ago

@Syclones

Weird..I thought infamous and watch dogs are different games.

B-radical1005d ago

No all it proves is that both aren't as powerful as we would want but they are both getting good looking games atleast

Ezz20131005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

wait!!...you really think a multiplat game ..and a cross gen game...from ubisoft... and a lunch title that is far far from using ps4 full power nor even xbox1 ....is what will show the power gap between the two consoles ?!

what the hell are you smoking ?!

also infamous SS from 1st party dev is an open world game with fully destructible environment at which something watch dog don't have
and look alot better than it too and 1080p native

and why you guys still show great insecurities about ps4 specs
the specs are out from both sony and MS
and indeed point out which console is stronger and by how much...those are FACTS
get over your self already

Syclonus1005d ago

@zarqafasch it was a comment on open world and 60fps...

MysticStrummer1005d ago

"This proves that there is no %50 power difference."

Not at all. Parity is the name of the multi plat game.

BallsEye1005d ago

@gaelic_laoch

But I thought ps4 is so easy to develop on? Way easier than XO...you guys gotta make up your mind.

Conzul1005d ago

This is a third-party game built on a scaling engine. It will completely ignore the extra power in the PS4

thechosenone1005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

Relax people damn.

Brix901005d ago

@Mystogan

If the ps4 shipped out with 60fps you would be canceling your preorder. It doesnt matter every game doesn't need 60fps since if its not a shooter. Probably spent there time working on open world and graphics decided it would take a lot more time to get it at 60fps. Not a surprise though honestly, I mean Infamous is rumored that there pushing for 60fps and if not have you seen that game it looks amazing.

ShinMaster1004d ago

A third-party multiplatform launch game is proof??
Are you serious?

donman11004d ago

This really proves the PS4 version was dummy down to keep the game inline with the inferior hardware of the XboxOne. Mystogan give it a rest already, countless AAA developers have already stated the PS4 is superior.

Dynasty20211004d ago

Idiot.

And the cloud won't boost Xbox frames ever.

PS4 users will now have games only capable of running at Xbox's lower hardware specs, so they get a gimped game when the console is capable of running faster with better graphics.

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ape0071005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

the truth is that ps3 and xbox 360 are STRONGER at their time than ps4 and X1 at their time

Watch dogs is built on a powerful PC of today which is more powerful than ps4 and X1, it's expected

if ps4 and X1 were 100$ more expensive, it would look the same as PC games for at least two years

but let's see it might be just because the 2 systems are fresh and need more time squeezing out power

falviousuk1005d ago

Oh my god, someone actually talking sense on here, I thought it wasnt possible.

Yes, you are spot on, these are new machines. Developers only had target specs to work with when designing games for the new machines, and is usually normal they are conservative with their games.

the same thing happened with the PS3 and 360. Look at the launch games compared to the games now, a big difference. I usually use COD as an example, COD 2 launch game for the 360 compare that with modern warfare.

Sadly the usual sony fanboys are blinded and cannot see past the words Sony and playstation.

B-radical1005d ago

This is true. When this gen came out the gpu's were great. For next gen both consoles are already lagging behind and the gap for the gen after next gen is gonna be even bigger gap. Someone honestly needs to make an upgradable console

falviousuk1005d ago

@B-radical

making an upgradeable console is not really doable. The reason consoles exist is that they are a set piece of hardware, it never changes, so the devs know exactly what they have to work with.

An upgradeable console has already been tried anyway, the 3DO had a module comoing out for it called the M2, This boosted the graphics and processing of the console quite a bit, sadly it was never released. Panasonic bought out the system and used it in a few arcade games.

RIP 3DO

MELMAN261005d ago

Absolutely correct I dont get why people don't understand this.

It has always been this way, god of war 2 (on the ps2) looked just as good as any launch game on the ps3 or 360.

Its going to take time for these games to get were we want them, STOP WHINING.

Beastforlifenoob1004d ago

The X86 architecture has been used in PC's for an age now so developers know all about it, so I doubt it will be like the PS3 were devs were scratching their heads and balls wandering how to use cell architerucre.

Beastforlifenoob1004d ago

Its not going to squezze out any more power because it is using X86 architecure which PC's have used fo an age so devs already know all about it. Wheras the PS3 left devs speechless and not knowing what to do because of cell arch

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SuperLupe1005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

Driveclub is 30 fps and is a freaking arcade racer.

Whats your excuse for that ? I mean PS4 got all that power and stuff.

Maybe thereS a secret Xbox version gimping it ?

Why does Knack look like a PS3 ainch game ? Wheres the xbox verson of that keeping the game looking like a next gen game ?

Please enlighten me.

The Meerkat1005d ago

I'm getting a PS4 but I will never again buy a single fast paced game that is anything less than 60fps.

Xsilver1005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

wooooooooow bring up knack a small game designed to be like crash bandicoot http://www.capsulecomputers... looks good to me. and you wanna talk about games that look current gen lets start with DR3 you know that 720p 30fps that struggles to keep 30fps.then there's Killer instinct which for a fighting game can't do 1080p what's up with that.Ryse had just been downgraded to 900p 30fps and Drive Club is 1080p working on hitting 60 fps and yes it looks great http://gamingbolt.com/wp-co... and doing way more than forza so cry me a river.
and here is deep down which runs at1080p and 60fps http://www.gameranx.com/upd...

Evilsnuggle1005d ago

Infamous Second Son character model are way more detail than wacth dogs are. Infamous Second Son 1080p solid 30fps CGI Quality graphics. If it is not 1080p on PS4 it was gimped so xbone want look bad or weaker than PS4

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney1005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

U for got that killzone & deep down are 60fps?

Why would Knack look surper realistic and next gen? Would u expect that from mario?
Knack is closer to pixar quality and shows better physics..
http://youtu.be/G_cLUD0tOC4...
Look what amd says about gddr5.. 512mb gddr5 > 1gb ddr3 by 20%(why nobody mentions this? idk)
http://www.amd.com/us/produ...

8gb gddr5 > 8 gb ddr3 by ?? who knows. Use ur logic.

Also all the xbone fans think ps4 is same as xb1 ur still idiots for paying $100 more for a casual gamer device..

ALso stop acting like sony fans are the ones sayin ps4 is 50% more powerful when this info came from devs!!!

That gddr5 graph says a lot..

Just like ps3 vs xbox 3rd party games will look the same and ps4 exclusives will out shine...

Not in just graphics but dev talent..

The last of us goty.. Nothing on xbox..

http://youtu.be/4i6TiYLwHW4...
real time...

"The PS4 Version of Final Fantasy XIV Will Run at 60 FPS, 1080p, Equivalent to Highest PC Settings"
http://n4g.com/news/1359428...

"PlanetSide 2 on PS4 to Look Like PC on Max Settings"
http://www.playstationlifes...

infamous character models look better than ryse models..

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Go play halo and wait for halo..

DOMination-1005d ago

Yes, Knack is such a SMALL title, they only moved resources from a game called The Last Guardian to finish it, because it's deemed to be the more important title.

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Magicite1005d ago

For some reason I have a feeling it is.