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Nvidia boss: “No longer possible” for consoles to have better graphics than PC

Tamasi: It’s no longer possible for a console to be a better or more capable graphics platform than the PC. I’ll tell you why. In the past, certainly with the first PlayStation and PS2, in that era there weren’t really good graphics on the PC. Around the time of the PS2 is when 3D really started coming to the PC, but before that time 3D was the domain of Silicon Graphics and other 3D workstations. Sony, Sega or Nintendo could invest in bringing 3D graphics to a consumer platform. In fact, the PS2 was faster than a PC.

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Irishguy951424d ago

News to me, I always thought PC >>> Console graphics wise. Half life 1 and 2 etc

OlgerO1424d ago

Just leave it to Naughty Dog to show you that games on PS4 can look prettier then any PC game

Hufandpuf1424d ago

And then I'll just show them Crysis 3 running at max settings.

vishmarx1424d ago

you guys cant even play tlou or gta v .
the two best games of the year.
does crysis on max still feel better than actually playing these games.
pc games will always look better.
consoles will always get better games.

_QQ_1424d ago

@vishmarx i didn't realize consoles had DOTA2 and Starcraft HOTS, i guess console games aren't better afterall.

Bolts1424d ago

GTA 4 on the PC looks better than Watchdog on the PS4. And you don't have to wait for anyone to see that.

Oh and GTA 4 release date? 2008 and you can play this on the TV with Steam Big Picture mode.

starchild1424d ago (Edited 1424d ago )

Ridiculous. Uncharted and The Last of Us are really fantastic games and they look very good by console standards, but there are MANY games on PC that look better.

And that is despite the fact that the PS3 was more powerful relative to high end gaming PCs than the PS4 is going to be when it launches. No, the truth is, console games, even the very best of them, will still be well behind the visuals that you get on a good PC.

@ vishmarx
I love the way some of you console fanboys try to use something as subjective as taste in games as an attemept to downplay the PC as a gaming platform. There are TONS of exclusives on the PC that I wouldn't have wanted to miss out on.

You guys live in your own little bubble and aren't even aware of the world outside that tiny sphere. I own both a PS3 and a 360 in addition to my PC and honestly there are like maybe a half dozen games that I really love on each of those consoles that I can't get on the PC. There are more exclusives on the PC that I love than on either console.

But beyond all the talk of exclusives, my favorite platform is always going to be the one that offers the best experience with the vast MAJORITY of games, not the platform that has a couple more exclusives than another platform. With the best graphics, smoothest performance and the wonderful world of mods, the PC is hands down that platform.

SlapHappyJesus1424d ago

The game, you know, needs to exist first.
Then you can talk.

showtimefolks1424d ago

vishmarx

preety graphics boring/dull gameplay enjoy crysis

lopez_josue

so many FTP MMO's are coming to consoles next gem, while most of consoles exclusives are staying exclusive. don't get me wrong i understand how big PC market is and how much money it makes but like console players miss out on some excellent pc games so do the pc gamers

difference being most console owners say yes those pc games are great, while any game that doesn't end up on PC automatically gets labelled

"WILL BE BETTER ON pc MAX SETTINGS"

how many people can actually run most games in max settings?

Amazingmrbrock1424d ago

The real difference between console exclusive games and any games on the pc is funding.

There are no pc manufactures spending the lavish amounts of money on pc exclusive content in the same way console makers do. The closes would be valve, and blizard, as far as spending money to push the pc market in a way thats similar to how the console market gets pushed. Even then valve doesn't put out a whole lot of games compared to sony or even microsoft.

So yeah thats why there are such top notch AAA console games and less of those for the pc. Granted there are still some for pc just less. Where the pc makes up for this difference is in the almost overwhelming amount of indie games. Not just medium sized indie games like ftl, or chivalry, but the thousands of small games that come out of game competitions. There's no comparison to those on consoles and in my view its something consoles are sorely missing out on.

wtopez1424d ago

@ OlgerO

By the time Naughty Dog launch a game on PS4, Titan level GPUs will probably be mid-range $200 video cards. ND has incredible talent but they're still dealing with severely limited hardware that's already old in many PC gamer's homes.

nukeitall1424d ago (Edited 1424d ago )

@OlgerO:

Stop being delusional!

I love Naughty Dog, but you simply cannot outpower a PC even with careful optimization.

Just look at the games, they are all shown on PC then downgraded to console to maybe hit 1080p across the board on console.

On PC we can easily talk about 2k graphics, and best specced rigs can hit 4k with little problem.

Before even release of either console, we got 6 gflops graphics card. That is almost 4 times as much flops as PS4. Even if the PS4 was running on secret sauce and puffing the cloud, it could not outgunn a PC.

Heck a console is simply a PC downgraded with added features (NOTE, ADDED FEATURES). It is not a supercharged PC, nor is it play beyond PC.

Anyone that says otherwise is selling you snake oil!

I love consoles, but we don't buy them for graphics. We buy them for the games, the ease of use and the ease of access to.

My PC can easily play Netflix and I can navigate it even faster, but my console is easier to use on my couch.

NewMonday1424d ago (Edited 1424d ago )

the very top PC sure are stronger than next gen in numbers, but the issue is price vs power, how about that BF4 demo on a $2000+ PC, can anyone show us a difference vs the PS4 demo worth over $1600? anyone that brings up the PC without specifying the GPU is being dishonest.

and how many games actually take advantage of the PC power? very few because developers scale down to the most common specs, the one game that is mentioned (Crysis3) is an average game, CryTech push the high end specs to show off their engine.

every developer that brings up the PS4 vs PC say the console is like a high end PC, only those in denial argue otherwise.

I wonder how many of the so called "PC master race" actually have a high end rig.

Nvidia are continuing the trash talk because AMD swept the console deals, and they feel the turning of the tide business wise, they talk like this to stir the fanboys into confrontations.

MRMagoo1231424d ago

when every pc gamer in the entire world including myself all have the complete max hardware everytime new hardware gets released then we can care about PC having the superior graphics but at most its around 10% that can play everything at its max.

The_Infected1424d ago

@EVERYONE

Why can't we all just get along?

Blackdeath_6631424d ago

@Hufandpuf
crysis beyond being a pretty game isn't very good. linear shooter and lameass story

Krosis1424d ago

"Just leave it to Naughty Dog to show you that games on PS4 can look prettier then any PC game "

Wow...only on N4G would you read that AND get agrees lol It looks good--for a CONSOLE game lol Christ these kids are deluded.

MuhammadJA1424d ago (Edited 1424d ago )

@vishmarx

And that's always your argument, console fanboys. Everytime someone say a PC game looks better than a console game (which is true all the time), you get defensive and say "we have better games". Games are and always will be SUBJECTIVE, graphics capabilities: PC > Consoles.

PeaSFor1424d ago

@Hufandpuf

it take more than high resolution and hi res textures to look great, meanwhile OKAMI on ps2 still look better than crysis3 on max setting.

ChrisW1423d ago

Considering the dollar to CPU/GPU ratio*, A $399 console is going to out perform a PC of the same price for quite some time.

* GPUs like nVidia's Titan ($1,000 for GPU only) vs PS4 (which has both CPU & GPU), the amount of power per a dollar is darn near equal.

Skips1423d ago (Edited 1423d ago )

"“No longer possible” for consoles to have better graphics than PC"

It doesn't matter much when the VAST majority of PC gamers don't even have PC's as powerful as PS4 and XB1. lol

http://www.cinemablend.com/...

And that probably won't change for a good few years... The majority of PC gamers aren't all gonna upgrade at the same time just because the PS4 and XB1 come out. XD

And "well said" @ showtimefolks...

Fluke_Skywalker1423d ago (Edited 1423d ago )

Graphics shmaphics, Crysis 3 (at max settings) is by far the prettiest game of the last well, ever really, but it's absolutely shit!!

HardcoreGamer1423d ago (Edited 1423d ago )

SORRY FOR DOUBLE POST

HardcoreGamer1423d ago

im digging the new ps3, but its not the same with ps4, the ps4 is off the shelf pc parts. its not gonna work like the same ps3 in terms of lastability

ps2 took 5 years to maximise
ps3 still not maxed out, but mad there, in 7 years

ps4 will be topping itself in 3 years.

this is the truth. its not like the days of ps2 and ps3, because sony only has to compete and not give away market share to xbox, otherwise ps4 wouldnt of be releasing this year.

its hard now and sony cannot afford the old route. (ps3 was a little too hard to develop for and were too ambitious. but thats what sony is)

thats why your getting alot of dissagrees

TRU3_GAM3R1423d ago

Just like crysis 3 did? even on console.

Army_of_Darkness1423d ago (Edited 1423d ago )

I have no problem with 1080p console games on my.... well, 1080p hdtv ;-)
I don't care if my ps4 can't do 2k gaming because for one thing, I don't have/ and can't afford a damn 55" 4k tv anyways!

If pc fannies ain't impressed by killzone:sf yet, then I know they will be when naughty dog shows what they have in store for us.
I'm sure that's when the pc fannies will cry back to crysis max settings once again LMAO! the one series that makes them sleep better at night for purchasing that expensive precious video card.

MWong1423d ago (Edited 1423d ago )

I just don't get why Nvidia seems so fixated on consoles now. I mean of late all you hear is them saying console this console that. I mean consoles (PS3, PS4, Wii, Wii-U, XB360 & XBone) range low end gaming to mid-high end pc's with non-interchangeable parts. PC's aren't and are fully customizable as long as you have the money and need for a game. I don't why there is always a debate of which is better. PC and game consoles are both great in their own rights. It will always depend on the gamer and the price they are willing to pay.

To me Nvidia just seems mad that AMD is doing something they aren't.

schubacca1423d ago

I got love for Naughty Dog, but please stop with this notion that PC graphics are inferior to equal to console graphics.

1Victor1423d ago

Well At Least Console Gamers Don't Have To Buy A $300 GraphicsCard To Play The "Latest Game" Every Year And A New CPU Every Other Year .Don't Even Bother To Say But But That Is If You Want To Play The Game On Max Settings

hollabox1423d ago

Yeah Naughty Dog can work their magic, the same goes to SCE Santa Monica Studio in the GOW series. Crysis 3 maxed looks good, the PS3 looks ok but I doubt you could run Crysis 3 on 7 year hardware and perform as good as the PS3 or X360 version. Heck my ATI 3870 couldn't even play Crysis War Head at decent frame rates back in 2008.

kurac1423d ago

@Krosis

I'm sure he meant ARTISTICALLY better. Of course PCs will always be technically better but it doesn't matter since the best artists and game-designer superstars make games mostly for consoles

saber000051423d ago

@OlgerO I would love to see the PS4, or any console, try to handle Arma3 on max settings, with maximum view distance.. Oh wait.. It's exclusive for PC.

The PS4 WILL be nice, but never will game consoles be more dominate that the PC. And this is coming from a guy who pre-ordered the PS4 as soon as it became available after E3.