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Submitted by grumpysmurf 340d ago | article

Xbox One Hands-On: Five Launch Games Tested

Lifehacker: "If you’re still sitting on the fence about whether to buy the Xbox One this Christmas, these are the games that will make you jump one way or the other." (Dead Rising 3, Forza Motorsport 5, Killer Instinct, Kinect Sports Rivals, Ryse: Son of Rome, Xbox One)

Dlacy13g  +   340d ago
Wait...what did I miss? Why is this author quoting the likes of Kotaku for their impressions and then giving us an excitement score for their site like its their words?
grumpysmurf  +   340d ago
It was a collective set of impressions -- Lifehacker, Kotaku and Gizmodo are owned by the same company and all attended together.
Dlacy13g  +   340d ago
Ahhh....thank you. I had no clue they were all together.
JokesOnYou  +   340d ago
"With that in mind, here’s a look at some of the flagship launch titles for the Xbox One." 

uhmm, so between these 3 sites nobody is informed enough especially Kotaku to know Kinect Sports Rivals is not a launch game?

It was delayed so that the issues he experienced could be be worked on, perhaps they wont get it right but you got to at least give it time, I always hear folks say *blank* game isnt finished so its too early to judge but he and so many seem eager to judge the new kinect and its obvious alot of it is preconceived notions from past kinect games...Im not a fan of these full kinect games but I still think each one deserves a fair shot on its own merits.

guitarded No theres far more to kinect the experience than this one game. Again as has been stated a million times selling it seperate would be short-sighted because not only is it part of the current UI, it would also limit future integration of kinect in core games, new UI functionality and only further contribute to poor utilization instead of steady progress for new gameplay ideas. Tha5 is a step back into tje status quo vs moving gaming forward into fresh unique gameplay or at the very least added options.
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mikeslemonade  +   340d ago
Kinect with the system is $499.99 and with a price point like that they will not sell anymore than 50 million units(generous) compared to 360's life to date of 70+ million. The xbox still doesn't have the name recognition of what was the PS2 which was clearly the main reason why the PS3 beat the xbox 360 this generation.

So here you are worried about the UI when the XI should really focus mind-share with a lower price compared to PS4. Not only should they take out the kinect, they should also sell the system at a lower price point compared to PS4 in order to survive the next generation.
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kickerz  +   340d ago
Maybe I'm wrong, but reading that I kinda got impressions that those guys don't really like Xbox no matter how good the games were.
ballsohard2013  +   340d ago
@mikeslemonade you mention the price $499.99 is what will keep X1 at 50 million units. Ok bro... lets think back to when ps3 released at $599 years ago....
nukeitall  +   340d ago
@JokesOnYou:

I think a lot of so called "game journalists" write to please the crowd, and there is a loud niche crowd who do not like Kinect.

That perception is changing though, with games like this:

http://n4g.com/news/1360794...

@mikeslemonade:

Excluding Kinect would make the Xbox One simply an improved pixel pusher over Xbox 360. It would have a few more pixels, but hardly brings gaming forward. It stagnated.

Motion control and Kinect is moving gaming forward, and hopefully we would be untethered from the controller.

Imagine if people said, I don't want touch screen, because the mouse works better and that is what I'm used too.

Which moves me over to the next point. What sort of support do we actually see for accessories historically?

It's pretty non-existant, and the best support any device has ever gotten is Kinect with MS push, and the fact that it is the fastest selling device.

Without that, nobody would care. Hence the stagnation again.

Look at the controller based games. They all look the same, feel the same with slightly different story lines and likely have similar big budgets.

I for one support Kinect One, because I want next generation console, not another upgraded pixel pusher. Then it is just like the iPhone's annual release. Boring!

Finally, MS just needs the killer app for Kinect and it will sell itself. Wii's killer app was Wii Sports. Nobody would have thought Wii would be so popular.
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FamilyGuy  +   339d ago
@ ballsohard2013

Xbox One =/= PlayStation 3

*PS3 came off the success of the PS2 (150million sold, 360 is at 80 mil, ignoring rrod repurchases)

*PS3 was also the cheapest bluray player you could find at release as well as being the most feature packed/multi-functional. X1 has no standout ability such as that.

*PS3 had a large number of first party dev teams pushing lots of noteworthy exclusives that helped it chug along till it eventually caught up to the 360. X1 will need lots of "system sellers" to compete.

*PS3 is still far behind the 360 sales in the U.S., The price being a huge factor was a major cause of this. U.S. is the largest console gaming market and also has the cheapest consumers (see Wii sales). Cheaper hardware sells better, much better.

All that said, at $499 the X1 doesn't stand a chance. 50 million sounds about right but seeing as gaming has increased over the years it could be higher but still not 360s levels without a steep price cut.

50-60million tops unless MS drops mandatory kinect and price. Comes up with some extremely worthwhile feature. Releases a ton of extremely desirable exclusives.
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dmeador  +   339d ago
To everyone saying the X1 wont succeed without a steep price cut, have you not seen every single console do this? Price cuts will come, and the X1 and PS4 will both sell
Naga  +   340d ago
Well that was a less-than-glowing assessment of KSR... I'm now rather glad it has been delayed a couple of months.
edonus  +   340d ago
When it comes to anything kinect you can't trust the opinions and impressions of mainstream game sites. You need to follow kinect specialists. There are too many factors that will result in bad reviews and impressions. The three big ones are...

These people aren't excited enthusiastic or even want to attempt to enjoy the experience so everything kinect starts in a deep hole that other games won't. So it would have to first get them off of their high horse just to try and impress them.

Another factor is hating on kinect has been good business, it will bring in more hits to their sites so they are encouraged to be bias and ignorant. No one checks them so they just continue to slander it with no consequence.

The final one is even if they weren't being bias or corrupt they still haven't developed the skills to properly experience the tech and convey it to us. Right now the common person is just as experienced and knowledgable about kinect than any of these experts or journalists. Asking their opinion would be like asking a 5 yr old the same thing.

The bottom line is only trust people that have shown the proper skills and a grasp of kinect technology. "Hint" if they have never given a single kinect a good review or never enjoyed a single kinect experience they are not to be trusted. I am not saying they have to gush and praise everything but kinect is a multi tens of millions unit hardware and software it has had years of big success, if they haven't been impressed in any way and praised something they clearly are not qualified to convey the experience.
GribbleGrunger  +   340d ago
So in short: Only trust previews/reviews of Kinect from people who think it's great.

1/ Ignore people who can't be won over
2/ Ignore those who say it doesn't work because they're trolling
3/ Although Kinect is intuitive, it takes a lot of practice to use it properly.
4/ Ignore people that have given Kinect games low scores.

That's what you said in a nut shell.
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clevernickname  +   340d ago
"Kinect specialist." You have got to be joking.
insomnium2  +   340d ago
@edonus

http://www.metacritic.com/s...

Best game has 81/100

6 games have 75+/100
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nukeitall  +   340d ago
@GribbleGrunger:

I would trust my own experience first, then trust the sales!

That is ultimately the best measure of consumer adoption. There are always exceptions, but ultimately people don't repeatedly plunk down cash on something they don't enjoy.

I enjoyed the first Kinect with the family a lot, and I hope some of that fun and immersion translates to hardcore games. There is definitely potential there!

That said, journalists are starting to see the benefits with the new Kinect, and that is where MS challenge is. Explaining the benefits and showing them.

We are already starting to get some potential quality core games:

http://n4g.com/news/1360794...

What I find interesting is that changes that are hidden happens much faster, like say technology in the background. There is massive amount of leaps due to "potentials" all the time. Yet, when it comes to consumers, they are set in their way. You try to change them and they fight back.

Imagine if people fought the move to touchscreen from mouse! I'm sure some people still are!

@insomnium2:

Yet, Kinect Sports sold easily over 3 million copies ages ago. Dance Central sold over 2 million copies again, ages ago. What does that tell you?

Point being, the gaming media is a niche group of people playing hardcore games. The vast majority of them will have a negative and skewed view towards motion gaming in general. Heck, just look at even the sub genres of games. You are far more likely to get a good score if you are a western shooter, than say a JRPG. Then look at Japan!

People, get out of your caves, see the world! :D
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edonus  +   340d ago
@GribbleGrunger
NO.... what I am saying is don't take sex advice from a guy that never even kissed a girl before.

Your points are false adaptations of what I posted or in simpler terms read with fanboy goggles.

1) Its not about winning anyone over its about representing a product in a factual way.
2) In lots of cases they are trolling and with people like you defending and supporting them they are encouraged to troll. Its damn near criminal with how much misinformation and misrepresentation is on the internet regarding kinect.
3) "lots of practice" is a relative term. You have to learn how to play new games what hard for you may be easy for me, what may take you 2 days to master may take me 2 minutes. From my experience it only takes the want to master it like any other game.
4) this is actually tied in with #2 besides I only gave 3 points. But to expand... I have played lots of kinect games and there are tons of experiences and if you havent found 1 that sparks your interest or that you like you are actively trying to not be interested or like it.

I'll translate it in to a way a Sony Loyalist might understand. Imagine me saying I dont like Ps3 because there is no games on it that I like. Kepp in mind the Ps3 has tons of games in all different form shapes and sizes. If out of this giant list of options I cant find something that i can enjoy you can clearly see that I am actively trying to not enjoy anything the Ps3 has. Thus should I be believed when i tell people it has no games?

@clevernickname
Yes ..... kinect specialists, I just so happen to be one. I have played and beat most of the core games kinect offers. i have learned the system and can play games on it as easy as with a controller.

NOoooo.... I am not a GOD.

I am just a core gamer that likes different stuff and approached kinect with the same enthusiasm and quest to learn and master it like we all have with every other game. There are quite a lot of great experiences on it. Kinect specialist are very few right now but if you look around you can find some. Kinect Addict on you tube comes to mind.

Dont worry though, kinect is standard now and you will stat seeing lots more players picking up the skills to control kinect. Who knows maybe one day I'll be pitted against you in the Light cycles arena in The Games Of Tron.
insomnium2  +   340d ago
@nuke

Oh here comes teh zales again right? Pfffft too predictable. You put 0.5 billion to advertize a turd and that turd will sell.

I was referring to this:

""Hint" if they have never given a single kinect a good review or never enjoyed a single kinect experience they are not to be trusted."

If the games are only for children or girls and they have scored 81/100 max is it really impossible to just not like Kinect without being untrustworthy (hater or a fanboy)?
abusador  +   340d ago
I trust angry.Joe lol and when ppl were praising kinect the real gamers like him were giving the facts, it was an unresponsive, lag fest. Kinect 2 has been seen to have same issues so plz take tht pr, blind fanboy talk elsewhere.
Ps4Console  +   340d ago
I always say if you can't make your mind up when the console launches go to your local game shop & ask them kindly if you can kindly try out the hardware they'll let you .

I went to purchase a HD tv my first one in 2005 I took my console down to the electronic shop & asked them kindly could I set my console up on there tv's they said yeah .
xDHAV0K24x  +   339d ago
I don't trust what anyone says. I need to experience it firsthand.
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clevernickname  +   339d ago
"I am just a core gamer that likes different stuff and approached kinect with the same enthusiasm and quest to learn and master it like we all have with every other game. There are quite a lot of great experiences on it. Kinect specialist are very few right now but if you look around you can find some. Kinect Addict on you tube comes to mind."

You are trying so hard that you have become a parody of yourself. Anyone that calls themselves a "Kinect specialist" is, sorry to say, being ridiculous.
guitarded77  +   340d ago
FROM ARTICLE:
"To summarise, it appears that the Kinect still has significant technical issues when it comes to actual physical gaming."

That's why MS needs to offer an XBOX One SKU without Kinect. Even if it did work well, many either don't want in or don't care. Have a Kinect free XBOX One for $400, and it would be far more enticing to many more gamers.

They forced themselves into a corner making Kinect required. Now if they backtrack again, and offer a console without Kinect it will look bad, and people will ask "Why'd they do that? Is there something wrong with Kinect?". To save face, they'll charge $500 and require Kinect at launch when systems sell any which way because they're new, and there's demand. But I'd put money on them offering the XBOX One without Kinect, and Kinect not being required by the end of the year.
prodg52  +   340d ago
I doubt there will ever be a Kinect-less SKU. 1- The Xone was built around Kinect. 2- How many developers have already begun making games with the idea that Kinect will be included in every SKU. And 3- Removing the Kinect will make early Xone adopters really angry because they payed $100 more for something they were told is integral to the system.
H0RSE  +   340d ago
"That's why MS needs to offer an XBOX One SKU without Kinect. Even if it did work well, many either don't want in or don't care. Have a Kinect free XBOX One for $400, and it would be far more enticing to many more gamers. "

- Sounds more like the problem is the added cost, not necessarily the included Kinect. If the X1 was the same $400 price as the PS4, yet still came with Kinect, would people still have a problem? On the opposite side, if X1 retained its $500 price point, but instead of a Kinect it came with a game and a free yr. of XBL gold, would people be complaining about the higher cost?

" But I'd put money on them offering the XBOX One without Kinect, and Kinect not being required by the end of the year."

- Kinect already isn't required. Regardless if every console comes with one or not, the Kinect is still an optional peripheral, so acting like it's a mandatory accessory that you can't ignore using, simply isn't accurate.
mhunterjr  +   339d ago
Your assessment is very shortsighted. Sure there are people who don't want or care for the Kinect and the extra $100 it currently calls for, but demand for the xbox one is such that it well sell through for quite some time anyway.

Developers will have 6-9 months after launch to demonstrate titles that actually use Kinect in ways that justify making the purchase, and by that time, Microsoft will undoubtedly have other ways to increase the value proposition (bundles, xbox live memberships,etc). Believe it or not Kinect Sports and Dance Central sold plenty of people on Kinect and D4 will appeal to hardcore gamers. It won't be long before more titles do the same.

Not to mention reductions in production costs will yield price drops.

The console wars are not won and lost on launch pricing (see ps3)
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UncleGermrod  +   340d ago
hmmm...the only real surprise for me is the issues with kinect. I think as far as the launch games go everything sounds like a fair and probably accurate assessment.

The kinect thing is worrisome. I personally will not use it for much more than gestures etc and maybe some basic supplemental uses in certain games. But to hear that MS is still having these issues with kinect this close to launch?...bad news. This peripheral is supposed to convince people to pony up $100 extra while settling for a somewhat weaker console. It better fuggin work or MS is screwed. Idc all that much since ill end up with both and am by no means "loyal" to any one company.

Getting xbox one day one and holding off for sony 2014 when the real games come in (second son, uncharted? etc). MS better at the very least make sure this $100 spy cam works as stated.
sAVAge_bEaST  +   340d ago
well said,.
H0RSE  +   340d ago
"This peripheral is supposed to convince people to pony up $100 extra while settling for a somewhat weaker console."

This is only half true. Yes, the Kinect is a factor for the higher price, but the information that xbox is the weaker console really only applies to enthusiasts, which most have made up their mind on which console to get months ago.

The majoirty of consumers aren't going to have a clue about the specs of each system or which console is more powerful, and in this regard, the included Kinect is not justification for "settling" for anything.
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robotgargoyle  +   340d ago
While Kinect wasn't my numero uno reason for purchasing an xbox one, i was shocked and displeased to hear about Kinect Sports Rivals having latency/ recognition issues. The Kinect 2.0 is supposed to a vastly improved piece of tech over it's predecessor which failed to deliver on grandiose promises. It's been delayed til 2014 so there is time to iron out some bugs. I read another report about Kinect Sports Rivals' jetski game that was positive too so it may not have that far to go.
Ohlmay  +   340d ago
The game is still in development, it was most likely delayed for these reasons, so judge the final product.
Evilsnuggle  +   340d ago
Xbone game average was about a 6 not very good under power xbone one 80 .
xDHAV0K24x  +   339d ago
what?
Regis  +   339d ago
He is implying that it sucks
christocolus  +   340d ago
i think d4 and crimson dragon validate kinect more but even at that ive read alot of user hands on and most of them have been positive regarding kinect sports rivals and the kinect itself...so i think ill just wait to get mine and make my own judgements..
GinkgoID  +   340d ago
Why would anyone base their decision of which console to buy on launch exclusives?!

Buying a console is a 6+ year investment. Look at the history of current gen games, and the full list of next gen announced games (wiki offer great lists for both parties).

Go with the party that makes the games you like best, and that you trust to deliver those games over the full life-cycle of the console.
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LoveOfTheGame  +   339d ago
Who buys a console at launch for future titles? If your validation to buy a next gen console is the games it will have, then why are you buying it now?

Edit: Grammatical errors
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GinkgoID  +   339d ago
There are lots of great games available for both consoles at launch, most of which aren't exclusive. Personally I am most looking forward to Watch_Dogs. There are also exclusives in both camps that I would be interested to play. There is no lack of great content at launch.

But to decide which console to buy, I guess I take a longer view, and my purchase will not be governed by the 4-5 exclusives avail on a system day one, when I then live with the decision for 6-7 years.

If you are someone who will eventually get both, then launch titles makes sense for which one to get first. If you will only be buying one (like me) then they are very short sighted and poor criteria indeed.
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BadlyPackedKeebab  +   340d ago
Kinect or no kinect is an interesting issue. If they keep kinect and its associated "Kinect tax" there is a pretty good chance they will kill the Xbox brand. Having said that if they can actually deliver the full "one" experience that actually works... i.e. I call out breaking bad and it highlights where it is on my sky box, where it is on my streaming services all in one guide... it could break the mainstream as a media hub. Having said that most non techies would be put off by that, my mum for instance would be scared to death of a system like that.

Still got both on preorder. Still at a total loss about which and when to get them.
MichaelLito79  +   340d ago
Kinect already is showing positive previews. Games like Crimson Dragon, D4, Kinect sports, Disney Fantasia music evolved all have gotten great previews from many top sites. Additionally, games that are going to support kinect for example RYSE, Deadrising 3, Forza 4, Call of Duty, Battlefied you can tell kinect is already leading with innovation and these developers are eager to push it. This is only the beginning lets see what happens in two or three years.
Panthers  +   339d ago
"Old fart gamers may remember the original Killer Instinct from the arcades back when Timezone was still a thing (there was also a solid Nintendo 64 port)."

Pretty sure it was a Super Nintendo port. I have it right here. Sorry, little detail that was bugging me
LoveOfTheGame  +   339d ago
I didn't know 23yr old gamers were old farts now, guess I just can't keep up with today's youth.
tudors  +   339d ago
Get your orders in guys, I have been told that those who don't will be lucky to get a PS4 before Feb, just paid off the balance for the Xboxone and have 3 preorders for the PS4 in case friends or family want one, GAME tell me that they think I might be ok for Christmas? but they cannot be sure.
Goku781  +   339d ago
Either Xbox One has what you want or it doesn't. Three choices, get one now, get one later, or not at all.
ForgivenZombie  +   339d ago
I'll probably get one later, no launch game really excites me, the only game that half way appeals is Titanfall, but that alone can't justify the $499 for the Xbone. PS4 will be my choice for multiplats even though I'm sure I'll get duplicates of some games so I can play them with my friends on live. I believe no matter which console you choose, you'll be happy.
Dlacy13g  +   339d ago
@Goku781.... nailed it. +bub
PsychoSupaman  +   339d ago
Really ppl? Its just $500! Come on now Wtf? If you can't afford 500 mayby you shouldn't be buying a gaming system anyway. There are probably other things u should be spending ur $ on..
sAVAge_bEaST  +   339d ago
Ps4, it's only $400, and seems to have a lot more finalized development done..

It's also a more powerful gaming system, ppl don't have to worry about the xbone, really.
PsychoSupaman  +   339d ago
Well I'm getting an Xbox because that's what "i" like. Just don't understand why ppl care what others spend they're $ on. I don't give a shit about indi games, no one can dispute the Xbox live experience is better
Halochampian  +   339d ago
@PsychoSupaman

We don't know how the Online experiences will be like on the new consoles.. and even if we do, stuff like that is all subjective.

Just buy which console you want to. You don't have to justify it besides, "It's what I wanted"
Thunderhawkxbox  +   339d ago
If you are Xbox fan boys u shouldn't care how much it is look five years ago ps3 was $599 and people still bought it and Xbox one is $499 and everyone moaning about it u pay $499 u get what you pay for kinect lots of features better online service and better hardware and I would love to see Sony fan boys disagree on comment lol
nking4  +   339d ago
Am I the only person that gets annoyed by these ongoing opinions about whether the product will "deliver" or not when it hasn't even been released yet. Yes we had a taste and example when the original kinect was released, but time and time again they have stated it's been improved. What people dont understand is that before kinect was an "optional" choice for xbox users. I am by no means a fanboy and at times am extremely skeptical on how this can vastly improve my gaming experience but hear me out.

I am not supporting their decision on making this a mandatory feature but at the end of the day you are getting one like it or not. The bright side to this is now developers know that there is a large market for kinect since every unit will clearly have one. This means unlike before if devs want to they can be confident in creating new ideas for the kinect because people will actually own the product on a larger scale. But like I said I would have been perfectly content with saving $100 and just getting the console but im hoping devs will surprise me and get me to use the product. Either way whatever console you're getting as gamers we have so much to look forward to as far as possibilities!
Halochampian  +   339d ago
Kinect Sports Rivals isn't a launch title...

Good thing they aren't looking forward to it. There would disappointment come Nov. 22

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