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Submitted by Goro 873d ago | opinion piece

Grand Theft Auto V sales set record -- why are we surprised when virtual violence becomes reality?

What do the mass shooters from the Navy Yard, Sandy Hook Elementary, the Aurora, Colorado movie theater and Columbine all have in common? They're all target demographic buyers for the world’s best-selling videogame. A game that released the day after the Navy Yard shooting and made $800 million in its first 24 hours on the market. (Culture, Grand Theft Auto V, PS3, Xbox 360)

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Goro  +   873d ago
Who else but Fox?
Snookies12  +   873d ago
All I had to do was see the title of the article. I instantly knew it was Fox spewing garbage.
xX-StolenSoul-Xx  +   873d ago
All of this Video Games linked with violence is a bunch of bull. Should little kids be playing games like GTA, of course not but criticizing ALL gamers who play these games?

Video games do LOTS of good too but these are all overlooked.
Want some? Look at this article-

But no.. Fox news they love to be the center of every controversy and for the most part they have a big lack of evidence to back up the claims they spew. The only link they can come up with is something like (Oh he or she played video games so it must be the culprit!) Sorry to say fox but video games are just as popular as many forms of media these days so I could say the same for those who watch movies.

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cyguration  +   873d ago
WTF happened that Fox News is now so prominent in our gaming culture? I find it ridiculous that every other day they seem to be spewing some vitriolic fanboy BS that you would find on the forums.

However, I'm being a bit hypocritical, because I do submit some of their articles because I know Fox News = flamebait = easy heat.
Jack_Of_All_Blades  +   873d ago
All mainstream media spews the video games cause violent crime garbage
Boody-Bandit  +   873d ago
This is just the typical deference debate (no, no, don't look here, look over there). Let's not debate the real issues. Let's look for a Unicorn. That's all this is. As soon as you say, "but what about all the other countries that have violent video games but don't have this level of real life violence?" *crickets*
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lastdual  +   873d ago
Fox is an easy target, but it's not as though CNN and other networks haven't been singing the same song. Not to mention that politicians on both sides of the isle have repeatedly called for censorship of games (the libertarians are about the only ones who haven't).

News is a business, and that business thrives on controversy, whether real or manufactured.

I don't personally have any problem with people complaining about excessive violence in the entertainment we consume. They may very well be right. What does bother me is singling out games while giving a free pass to other forms of media, or holding onto an outdated attitude that "games are for kids."

Those ratings are there for a reason. A game like GTA shouldn't desensitize kids to violence, because kids shouldn't be playing that game in the first place. If parents acted like parents, this wouldn't even be an issue.
Bigpappy  +   873d ago
They are doing this because they are terrified of someone coming to take their guns. 12 people got shot to death in Washington DC. So Fox needs to get on offence to say it's GTA that cause the guy to buy the gun and shoot the people. This even though GTA was released after and there has been no mass shooting since.

Wow, the fact that all these guy lost their minds and had easy access to lethal weapons means nothing to Fox News. Got to be the games that teach them. The Sand Hook kid mom use to take his crazy arse to the shooting range an trained him to be more effective.
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SilentNegotiator  +   873d ago
"What do the mass shooters from the Navy Yard, Sandy Hook Elementary, the Aurora, Colorado movie theater and Columbine all have in common?"

Mental health issues ignored by the police and other authority figures capable of getting them committed, likely preventing the event from ever happening?

But nah, the lack of following of laws that we actually have isn't the problem! It's "We need to ban/restrict guns!" or "teh videogames!"
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Army_of_Darkness  +   873d ago
I confess.. .. gta made me stealth kill everyone in hitman absolution.. .. .. Ohh we are talking reality?! Well in that case gta made me enjoy stabbing my pumpkins to death after Halloween.
Underworld  +   873d ago
As a regular viewer of Fox News, I can tell you that the majority of presenters and hosts do not feel video games are the cause. Violent video games have been discussed on there in the last week or so, but the majority state they don't feel it's the cause, and that there are millions of people who play them with no problem. Some have said that violent games, and violent media in general may push already mentally unstable people over the edge and to act out. That's it

Most media outlets discuss this issue, and some people from all sides just blame violent video games. Not just some from Fox.

There is nothing wrong with Fox, and if some took the time to actually watch it they'd see. So tired of the shots people take at Fox News and Fox viewers. Because the Mainstream media is just so great?

Go on, vote me down. God forbid someone watch Fox and think it's good.
bohemian 23  +   872d ago
@underworld Are you telling me you don't think Fox News is "mainstream media"? Lol I'm sorry but fox is for the right and cnn for the left, I would think most people would know that by now. I think either way you get mostly bullshit, and a little truth from them both though.
Hitman0769  +   872d ago
lol @Underworld: "Go on, vote me down. God forbid someone watch Fox and think it's good."

Kill it with fire...
Ares84HU  +   872d ago
Guys, guys, guys.....

just calm down and do what I do.

Click +
Than, WTF
Than, NO

That's it. Problem solved.
LOGICWINS  +   873d ago
Dude who wrote this is a bible nut..surprise surprise.
Dirtnapstor  +   872d ago
So someone who identified that this type of violence is not appropriate for young kids is a "Bible nut"? Really? Think for a moment... your username conflicts with your thoughts.
Hitman0769  +   872d ago
@Dirtnapstor his logic is on point quit crying and go worship the bride of christ or whatever you bible nuts think is the thing this week.
Dirtnapstor  +   872d ago
Actually no. He is associating Bible thumpers with condemnation of this medium. I too could be considered a thumper and I embrace this medium...and am not crying! Lol!
animegamingnerd  +   873d ago
seriously someone needs to shut down these idiots from saying stupid crap without doing any form of research
lastdual  +   873d ago
No. Fighting censorship by calling for more censorship isn't the answer.

It's an opinion piece on the opinion page - basically a blog. I may not agree with it, but calling for people to be silenced only makes us look like the unhinged wackos that many in the news media would like to paint us as.
PoSTedUP  +   873d ago | Well said
Rockstar: "loooooool" *counts money*
gamer: "hahhaha" *continues playing gta5*
realist: "smh" *spreads truth on important issues*
serial killer: *goes down into basment to play with mutilated body*
media: "it's video games, i tell ya!" *ignores real world issues*
journalist: "oh boy! reason for hits"
feminist: "i have nothing else impotant to do anyway *yap yap yap*"
Stsonic  +   873d ago
I have bubbled you for inelegance, smartest thing I have read all day and sums up what I have been thinking with all this bandwagon controversy train coming from GTAV.

The one that bugs me the most is the feminists who don't like the way you play in the strip club but at the same time cry out for a female protagonist. Don't seem to mind the violence, theft and all the other bad stuff in this 18 rated game.

I remember a time when you could play gta games in peace without all this crap being spewed left right and centre. Most of it coming out of social network sites like youtube and facebook where everyone has an opinion and feels the need to shove it in your face.
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PoSTedUP  +   873d ago
thanks pal. the feminists, yeah me too. they should realize this game is about reality. not agreeing with it isnt gonna change anything, in this case. boo hoo. i mean of course they arent going to feature a female in the biggest, one of the most voilent and controversial games centered around men, targeted for men, made by men, in an industry where the majority of hardcore gamers are men (or grown ass boys, like mysef). the whole series has been a hyper testosterone playing field from day one. the hardcore female gamer is PLAYING IT RIGHT NOW. so we know that the controversy isnt comming from where rockstar will lose Any fanbase if they dont change anything.
abc1233  +   873d ago
Weazel News. Confirming your prejudices.
ricochetmg  +   873d ago
Anyone find it funny how they will blame video games and still defend the right for anyone to own a gun. Republicans act as if they look out for big brother but they are big brother and democrats want to take guns from people and leave them in the polices hands. They shoot more people then anyone.
SilentNegotiator  +   873d ago
"act as if they look out for big brother"

Government oppression doesn't have to be IMMINENT in order for citizen firearm ownership to make sense. A government should fear not serving its people and having a monopoly on firearms would give them perfect reason not to.

All of the recent big time shooters had major warning signs ignored by the police, which should have resulted in them being admitted and their firearms being revoked along with their right to purchase more.
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Underworld  +   873d ago
They don't defend the right for anyone to own a gun. They believe mentally unstable people should not be able to buy guns! Stop spreading lies.
ricochetmg  +   871d ago
Underworld we are all mentally unstable.
Parapraxis  +   873d ago
Here, have his twitter

Send your love guys!
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JsonHenry  +   873d ago
Pretty sure killing hookers, selling illegal item/substances, murder, and crazy people existed thousands of years before video games were invented.
DoctorJones  +   872d ago
Another over the top article from Weazel News.
lav_s  +   872d ago
I was thinkin the same
kevnb  +   872d ago
this is a country who sat around and watched iraq get bombed with a smile on their face, America loves violence.
DogtagDuke1992  +   872d ago
Just look at some of the more impoverished countries that don't have video games at all and look how high their violent crime rates are...explanation?
iamnsuperman  +   873d ago
"Like other best-selling games today, Grand Theft Auto V trains millions of young Americans to walk into public places and shoot innocent people. "

Just no. Idiotic to think this. You know what, I thought our Daily Mail was bad but this is something else. Well done Fox News

Also this "But those who sell and profit from these games know their hundreds of millions in sales dollars are mostly coming from young adults and minors." is not there flipping fault. It is the parents or guardians who buy this stuff for them. Blame them
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M-M  +   873d ago
This is why I stopped watching the news years ago, nothing but misinformed people.
iamnsuperman  +   873d ago
Not all news. The BBC has to be impartial and actually report news and not this stuff(as we pay for it). I assume there are some others out there to (but I just stick to the BBC)
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WeAreLegion  +   873d ago
The BBC is great, except that 9/11 report they did. Really?
Pintheshadows  +   873d ago
The BBC is supposed to be impartial but they rarely are. They try bless them, but most of the time they lean to one side or another.
JsonHenry  +   873d ago
Foxnews leans right, CNN/MSNBC/CBS/ABC/BBC all lean left. You want the truth? STOP watching all of the above and go to the actual people doing the journalism and read their blogs/reports.
ricochetmg  +   873d ago
BBC just reported 9/11 before it happen ? Right
animegamingnerd  +   873d ago
fox news is just being idiots again nothing new to see here
ABeastNamedTariq  +   873d ago
This is a lot worse then when I was watching CNN (flipping channels) a while ago. Some 'psychiatrist' on there said "Grand Theft Auto... Edition..87 or whatever just made a tremendous amount of money when it premiered Tuesday, something like $84 million. [Goes on to talk about guns and stuff.]"

The uninformed misinform, smh.
KonsoruMasuta  +   873d ago
I wonder what video games Hitler played?

Oh wait....

These articles are getting annoying.
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Tetsujin  +   872d ago
He played Star Craft to better plot how to invade Poland.

World War 2 soldiers played Wolfenstein so they could have a better idea how to get closer to Hitler to take him out. Let's not forget Hitler also went berserk because of "lag" issues.

Knowing Fox News they will almost believe what I just typed.
WeAreLegion  +   873d ago
I feel like everyone thinks this is just FOX News. NBC, CNN, CBS, and ABC News all blame video games, too. All of them are horrible.
abc1233  +   873d ago
What do the mass shooters from the Navy Yard, Sandy Hook Elementary, the Aurora, Colorado movie theater and Columbine all have in common? They're all target demographic for the world’s least respected news channel.
Baka-akaB  +   873d ago
"What do the mass shooters from the Navy Yard, Sandy Hook Elementary, the Aurora, Colorado movie theater and Columbine all have in common?"

Er eating rice or bread ?
Pintheshadows  +   873d ago
I wish that they had left notes saying we are doing this because of FOX news.

The reality is they are doing it because they are depraved C words and no amount of outside stimuli (games, movies, tv) would have changed that.

If you want to blame something blame their psyche FOX. It was clearly heavily damaged. And add their beliefs to that. Belief can be an incredibly dangerous weapon. Look at the Spanish Inquisition, or the genocide in Rwanda, or countless other atrocities all commited because the perpetrators believed it was the right thing to do.
Pintheshadows  +   873d ago
The guys who fought at the Battle of Hastings had all been playing Chivalry. Wait, that isn't right. The guys who fought in WW2 had all been playing Medal of Honour. No, that isn't right either. The BTK killer had been practising murdering prostitutes in GTA5. Wait, no, not correct either.

Humans have been a violent race long before games, tv, movies, rock n' roll came along. Fox is full of **** just like the Daily Mail in the UK. Bunch of hypocritical morons who would be better suited to a career in Real Estate or a car dealership. They are nothing but scum and the sooner they disappear, and they will, (not tomorrow, not in a decade, but when humanity matures into something more than we are now and actually start dealing with serious issues in the correct way) then we will be in a far better place.

A game isn't a cause of violence. The brain is. Everyone is a potential psychopath. We are just a trigger away. Everyone has the red mist descend. Everyone has sociopathic tendancies. We are human. It is natural.
sAVAge_bEaST  +   873d ago
Then the media needs to quit being Cheer_Leaders for illegal wars(that effect real people), and stop focusing on negativity daily. -before they have any room to talk.
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Nazara  +   873d ago
What do all the shooters have in common? Mental issues and a gun. Start there, stop deflecting.

Stupid fox.
KonsoruMasuta  +   873d ago
Fox is a Republican news station. They are all for guns and will say anything to take the blame away from firearms.

They would try to blame the pope if they thought it would take the heat away from guns.
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arbitor365  +   873d ago
because clearly mass violence in america has only become a reality in light of video games like GTA

just ask the native americans
NotoriousGamer  +   873d ago
you guys do know that news just state inflammatory remarks on their headlines just to get us to click on them and feed them money via advertisement, right? The answer here is to ignore. Go as far as blocking the channel on your T.V., blocking IP's/URLs on your routers, take the self assist line at the grocery store and avoid seeing the tabloid/newspaper rack... whatever. News agencies nowadays are like trolls, and we're just feeding them.

I find it hard to believe that any human being will stand by something as vile as a lie and call it just... unless money would be involved. Willing to bet that half the stuff news anchors are reporting hardly believe it themselves or think its the stupidest crap theyve ever had to say.
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a7xgemini  +   873d ago
It's an opinion piece on Fox News... Not Fox News itself, they have liberals on there as well spewing dumb crap on the opinion page... Bunch of Derps thinking this is prevalent across the whole fox news network, I think a lot of you are the ones that are brainwashed into believing fox news is the problem...
Pintheshadows  +   873d ago
Liberals are just as bad as Republicans and I honestly can't believe you would defend FOX news. They have no idea what 'moderate' means. I have never seen a level headed, well thought out and well argued point on any of their programming. It is all deliberately agenda driven like every news station except that FOX takes it to the MAX.
a7xgemini  +   873d ago


(And just for the record, I'm a conservative and I've played video games for years including the new GTA which is amazing, and I know that ALL of these news programs are bullshitters that have never sat down and played a game in their lives, I'm just making the point you guys have to get it through your heads that fox news is no more the issue than any other main-stream media garbage...)
Pintheshadows  +   873d ago
I never it said it was the issue just like games are not the issue but it doesn't change the fact that they live off of stirring up controversy to further their agenda. The issue is the human psyche.
a7xgemini  +   873d ago
You can't possibly believe Fox News is the only news source with an agenda...
OrangePowerz  +   873d ago
Even if games would cause this, while unfortunate for all affected people, it would be a tiny little fraction of how many people have been killed in the last 3 000 years by wars.
Clarence  +   873d ago
Video games didn't exist when Hitler was slaughtering the Jews, nor did they exist when this country hanged blacks, and slaughtered the Indians.
LeCreuset  +   873d ago
"What do the mass shooters from the Navy Yard, Sandy Hook Elementary, the Aurora, Colorado movie theater and Columbine all have in common?"

They all shot people with a gun. Not a PS3 controller. Not an Xbox controller. Not a freaking fight stick. A gun.
Hicken  +   873d ago
Nail on the head.
OrangePowerz  +   873d ago
No, no, no. They shoot people with guns not nail them on the head.
ninjagoat  +   873d ago
People seem to get more simple by the year don't they. I always see an 18 slapped on the side off GTA. If your off age enjoy the fcukr if your not off age still enjoy it just don't tell no idiots with there heads stuck that far of there arses all they spew is crap.

Always find some idiots that want to deflect the reasons why so many things go wrong in this world gun violence etc. Back in the day it was comic's then TV then Video's.

Anything but the Guns -_-.

I get there's millions off responsible gun owners. But there also a sh1t ton off twats with guns as well and as long as they have rights to own them weapons there will always be issues.

Sooner America gets to grasps with that the better for everyone else. I'll leave this here.

Everything is taut its up to you what you take on how you perceive things.

I played games and watched all types a crazy sh1t as a kid ;). I'm not gonna go killing any one lol. Oh yeah massive GTA5 fan.
CerealKiller  +   873d ago
I heard that every mass shooter so far has watched news reports of violent crimes which inspired them to commit violent crimes themselves
superbhoy  +   872d ago
nice name...maybe you're speaking from personal experience lol
PsylentKiller  +   873d ago
I didn't know video games had this kind of a direct effect on people. Play a game with killing and you become a killer. Sh!t!, I'm going to play some madden, so I can become a professional football player.
Why is it that a game like CoD gets these people to say that the your is going to become killers.?Why not soldiers? Why is GTA turning people into killers and not Russian immigrants trying to make a better life for themselves or a black kid from the hood trying to get out of the gutter.
These people need to recognize that all the studies have shown that there is no correlation between violent video games and violent behavior in young adults. Children may be affected by these games but they're not made for children. How many parents take their kid to see rated are movies? How many parents let their kid watch pornos? Same rules should apply to video games. Take an interest in your kids life and find out about the game before you buy it for them? Lazy parents should catch the heat, not Rockstar.
At the midnight launch for GTA V I saw three 11 year olds on line with their parents, moms and dads. The games were for the kids not the parents. I asked one of their dads if the game was for him and he said no. I told hi the game is extremely violent and not made for kids. He replied " it's a video game, how bad could it be". After a response like that, I said forget it and told the kid "hope you enjoy the game".
MatriXcian  +   873d ago
Ya know what else they have in common antidepsressant that cause suicidal thoughts and homicidal tendencies hell just read the inserts. Why is it no major new network talks about that.
aLucidMind  +   872d ago
Because Capitalism. More money in the meds than video games.
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FunkMacNasty  +   873d ago
If i didn't have games to play, I'd have already gone on a mass killing spree from having to watch plastic "reality" TV shows that preach nothing but selfishness, cuthroat mentality, vanity, and classless attitudes and values. So if videogames are going to cause problems, by that logic what are episodes of "Jersey Shore" and the like doing to our younger generation?

Gotta give props to the commenters on that FoxNews website though! They all called Bulls*it on the author and his crock of sh*t article..
wtopez  +   873d ago
When virtual violence becomes reality? That has literally never happened. What is this, The Matrix? How about the very REAL 300+ million weapons in the U.S.? Nothing virtual about that. Why is common sense so challenging to these right wing sad sacks? Can you pause for a second to think about what you're doing? You're blaming videogames for the deaths of dozens of innocents? Children even? All while ignoring the cold hard fact that the shooters where mentally ill and had access to weapons. The good thing is that as they grow old and bitter so does their demented arguments. Truly Fox News, go fuck yourselves.
AD705  +   873d ago
So every person who plays video games and every killer who has ever lived plays video games? Because that's what i'm getting from this article.

stalin, hitler, genghis khan, pol pot, jack the ripper, al capone, and other mass murders never played video games and they killed more people than that alexis arron and all those other guys could possibly imagine.

and we say video games are the reasons why these shooting happen? How about the fact that our gun laws in the US are bullshit and that these guys were total psychopaths?
YodaCracker  +   873d ago
You have got to be kidding me! This literally reads like a satire piece. At many points throughout the article, I was convinced this had to be a joke. It reads like a parody of your typical clueless journalist writing about this evil game where you are "trained to kill" and "rewarded for shooting civilians". And of course they mention the classic "have sex with a prostitute and beat her with a baseball bat". Now all the guy needs to mention is how you "get points for killing cops" and he has the cliché fear-mongering article about the evils of video games.

And you just know your average Fox News reader eats this crap right up. What is the world coming to?! Soon we won't even be able to leave our homes anymore. There will be armies of young, male, video game-trained killers patrolling our streets, brutally murdering any innocent civilian they spot just like GTA trained them to. Jack Thompson tried to warn us years ago. WE DIDN'T LISTEN!!!!
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actionguy87  +   873d ago
Guys... this is an opinion article located in the Opinion section of the site published by some no-name John Dickerson. Stop acting like this article is a front page attack on gaming.
hazelamy  +   872d ago
it's fox "news", if they said the sky was blue i'd get myself checked for colour blindness.

ridiculing them is like a game, it'd be fun if it wasn't so easy.
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STEWIE_PLAY_PS4  +   872d ago
Hey any news and Fox, shut up u dumb I'm video game fan no act violence. I believe video game exist in 1970 who act gta kill, ww2 kill million in 1900-1945, 1980 shoot school, and 1939 muder peoples!. This not video u news Syria killed peoples today point doesn't video game exist what do u have done? Fk Fox News.
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