Microsoft announced today that European sales for the Xbox 360 have more than doubled due to the recent adjustment of the retail price, "significantly broadening the console's audience" it says.
it's true, but it is 30.000 console a week under the ps3 bad news with the 100 € cut for console...
Double sales is impressive, but still not enough to meet up with the competition
what I like is how upcoming multiplatform releases are supposed to help 360... lol
I might be the VGcharts that are wrong. (Would not surprise anyone) But they show the 360 doubling in sales and then quickly going down in sales to something way less than double.
It's because of gta. Both consoles will sell a lot. There is going to be a report that ps3 quadrupled.
Yep, it still fails to outsell the PS3 weekly. Poor microsoft.
The xbox 360 is cheaper then the ps3...it should be trouncing it right now in the uk...with more games...I just dont get it...bring that price cut to North America and Im sure things will be different.
its definitley not a simple as that yes, most people initially look at the price when deeciding what next-gen console to buy- but there are many other factors involved the most significant being brand recognition- people see Playstation, people trust Playstation im not suggesting anything so as to not hurt your feelings, but that IS the general mentality of the casual consumer
Nah. Brits are just dumb.
as opposed to Americans? retard.... ignorant American child
So they sold 4 consoles then!!! ;-D
when it come to selling a product but before making a price cut you (the company) must know when is the right time to used that but if you make it a wrong time, it can affect how the product will sell. Look at the 360 for example if you make a price cut while your console is still selling a good rate but cutting a price to remain competitive with your competitor is also a big risk to take, but if your product is brand recognition then a price cut would've not affect in many ways. But with the M$ name and especially an American brand people in Europe would not know this company as reliable Hardware company and especially this company is known as a software giant, which only good at producing software but in the hardware department there have been no word of what so ever that their product is reliable, so therefore the price have draw the product down the hill and this would probably made the consumer in Europe think, the only reason why the product have a price cut is simply because the product is not as reliable as the company once told them, so therefore this will result in loosing consumers. So with that reason you see a decline in hardware for the 360 in Europe once the price cut been happening. But in the other hand Sony PS3 is on the rise why is that, that is question you need to think ( well it's mostly the anticipate software that have been recent release on the platform) but let see if there will be a big leap for the 360 once GTAIV release
in england many shops are offering deals.
xbox 360 elite £249.99 with free GTA 4 plus free £10 store credit and free microsoft point were i live. (kent, south east england)
that is a good deal. so really an elite cost £200
some weird named shop is doing it. i think certain Game shops do it.
but that is a good deal. for many people to go next gen.
my thoughts are that GTA wont make as many people awith to the next gen as you think. obviosly it will sell and sell millions on xbox360/ps3 alike, but i dont think it will make how ever many millions left to make the next step IMO
(obviosly i will get the mandatory 5 disagrees for commenting but thats my £2)
good gaming every one and enjoy GTA 4, thats what it is there for, not to argue but to give you a good experiance.
gd gaming for both sides.
'we got outsold due to shortages' talk for this month',wonder what it will be next month? double figures is so vague,because they have still been outsold 4months straight so doubled from what? their pr department should get fired
but then again... sony DID fire their pr department...
Nearly pi$$ed myself... Bubble
And what a great move that was!
They need Jaffe to talk about their games...
Its being outsold every month by PS3...how is it the console of choice in Europe? It sells better in Great Britain but elsewhere less. The amount of software sold however is pretty solid in comparison to PS3. Many people purchase PS3 as a movie player instead of a games centric player. There is no denying this as I've seen it many times. When I was waiting in line to buy a Wii (one of several unsuccessful times) I would converse with atypical/non-gamers who were waiting to buy a PS3 for blu-ray. Its a great selling point for gamers and non-gamers alike. I wonder if people buying it for blu-ray only impacts software sales.
? the PS3 software sales were double that of 360's and i know thats according to VGchartz, but still- its the only info we've got
Yes, the 360 has a 7 to 1 attach rate after 27 months on the market to a lowly 3.8 to 1 on PS3. What it does not mention is that the PS3 has only been on the market in Europe for less then 13 months. So the attach rate is pretty even if adjusted for months on the market if not higher on PS3. I wish people paid me to spin things like these guys do. BTW thats the beauty of Sony's PS3 business model. People buy the ps3 for games and Sony makes money. People buy the ps3 for blu-ray movies and Sony makes money. Win-win situation for them.
ofcourse it sells more software???????/ when that attachment rate with the 360 is 7-1. pull your head out of the sand!
the 360 is more than popular in the uk, and sony wont catch it up there this year no-way! the rest of europe is sonys already! the fact that sony only outsells microsoft by a small margin in the uk, and the 360 has been out for considerably longer, just shows how popular it's become over here!
It is catching up in the UK it took less time for the PS3 to break the million barrier than the 360.
@dan-boy idiot i was merely quoting what VGchartz posted, and that is PS3 sold a cumulative total of around 600,000 games and the 360 only 300,000 read what people say child
i've read some of your enlightened rubbish in the open zone, you should stay there permanently!
and now vgchartz is reputable?? lol. i was under the impression that it was just estimates?! ofcourse the ps3 was gonna have a good month software wise...gtp was just released!
anyway, if i was wrong then i'm sorry! but one month of decent software sales does'nt really come near the 360s attachment ratio does it?
child lol i wont bother telling you how old i am. but i would bet that i'm older than you puppy! adieau!
i can say exactly same for the wii, a couzin of mine bought wii for his 3 lil girls and boy, and they have NOT bought a game since 7 or 8 months since no purchase.
wii is being bought as a toy, for kids, just like buying blu ray for movies, but everybody knows that wii is hitting the market better thank 360, have you seen how bad 3rd party titles are sellin on the wii, ps3 is already beating the wii's sales in 3rd party stuff. n heck keepign up in 1st party stuff.
Attach rate for 360 was first revealed to be 4.2 in January 2006. By Christmas 2006 the attach rate was 6.3. It has now risen to 7 as of early 2008.
Anyone who has a simple grasp of math. As in the ability to add 4 to 4 and get 8.(4+4=8) Can see just how big the gap is between software sales on 360 and PS3. Think about it. The 360 has had a higher attach rate at launch than the PS3 has had in 17 months on the market.
Also don't bother mentioning the delayed release of the PS3 in Europe as the PS3 is purchased in all 3 of the major worldwide markets. The 360 is only bought in 2.
you are correct =) when i got my Xbox 360 in October 2006 i got 4 games with it =)
an achievement considering the hardware issues and the strength of the brand name Sony, if the hardware issues werent in play i could well the figures been even closer to the ps3. Its got to make you laugh though that the powerhouses of the 360 and ps3 are been raped by a gamecube with a new controller
It's very true that the 360 and PS3 is getting handed by the Wii worldwide. However, hardcore gamers don't care as long as they keep giving us our Gears, GTAs, Resistance, Gran Turismos, Forzas, Metal Gears, Bioshocks, All unreal engine games, etc. etc. etc. I could care less if the Wii sold 8 billion units in 2 years, just as long as we keep getting great hardcore games from the 360 and PS3.
Could this be the damage control? Releasing this right before the NPD?
I guess well see tomorrow.
Doubt it has anything to do with NPD sales which is US only.
Why would doubling sales be damage control? That's not an excuse for anything. It's a good thing regardless of how you spin it.
wow so many people on damage control on this thread, its selling well in europe...so what?!?!?!?! i say good for them, more people enjoying quality games, the more people buy consoles the more the videogame indursty expands......some people need to grow up.
Yep. Regardless how much this or that is selling. Its still good news for MS.
Being out first and being DEAD LAST month to month (behind the PS2). Is NEVER looked upon as good in business.
The PS2 is under $100 dollars. It sells just because it's so cheap. I'd be more embarassed if I were sony and my new console was being repeatedly outsold by its predecessor.
But then again like you said...it's cheaper, it's not embarassing at all.
sayin that my ps3's shagged at the min gotta wait till friday 4 a replacement
You are a idiot nobody cares about your ps3 yet everyday you cry. do me a favor and find a large busy multilane highway and play real world frogger while you wait.
GUYS expect TO SEE A NEW SONY EXCLUSIVE AND SOME MAJOR NEW PSN UPDATE as i know sony driods will be hard at work looking up stuff to counter all this good ms news on n4g they cant stand it and i know they will make up a couple of exclusive in the coming days like they always do .
Totally agreed, lets hope that devs continue with the current trend,
Timmy, I honestly hope the 360 and PS3 keep trying to out do each other. That's the only way they'll stay alive this generation. Of course we're talking about them both being overshadowed by the Wii. I think if it was just the Wii vs 360 or Wii vs PS3, obviously the latter will diminish and hardcore gaming along with it. Thankfully there's 360 and PS3 in the fight against the Wii. Some people just don't realize that, it's not that big of a deal with the 360 vs PS3. Heck, both systems are HD consoles that actually deliver on the graphical promise. But in this day and age where casuals are soaking up the Wii, no other systems alone would have a chance against it. Times has changed. I used to love my SNES, in fact it's the only Nintendo system I'll ever adore. The Wii (although I have one) just isn't for me, and the game cube I didn't even buy one. All I have to say now to the developers is please don't fall into the casual hype.
Neither console is going to be a failure. Even despite the Wii selling so well, console sales are up all around. There's also the fact that the Wii is pulling in non-gamers, which I wouldn't consider a win for the 360/PS3 market. In fact, the wii probably increases sales for the 360/PS3 by pulling people that don't care about games into gaming.
This is just flat out lying by M$. Not only has PS been reaming XB with a big sweaty fist for months, but all console numbers are down every month during these slow months after Christmas. How can there sales be double, yet down every week and still behind PS3? Absolute M$ B$.
simple, dude. they are comparing their previous sales figures.....which goes to show it's not as high as they make you think it is :-P
Bubble to you bathyj.
I thought the same thing seeing that the PS3 has been outselling it for quite a while now.
AHH Now i SEE I WAS WONDERING WHY I KEPT HEARING SO MANY GERMANS + spanish ppl on xbox live of late there are so many of them now =) o think they arre starting to undertsand 360 is better than ps3 good news
LMFAO. Is THAT what this means?
I couldnt agree more, can you imagine if the only choice was the wii?
Im sure they could be some decent games on there (i dont own one, no intentions of getting one), but apart from the controller the system is 9-10 years old, did you see the mario cart review? i couldnt believe how poor it looked, the popularity of the wii is also a reason why i cant see neither the ps3 or the xbox 360 reach the dizzy sales of the ps2, i reckon about 50-60 percent of the sales of the ps2 were for the casual side of gaming (singstar, buzz games, eye toy etc etc)and it makes sense that these people will go for the wii leaving the 360 and ps3 to fight for the rest.
Their old sales before the price cut saw PS3 raping it 4 times over. Wow, and these sales won't stay up, that's it, the death knoll is ringing for 360, while PS3 gets MGS4 exclusive, exclusive GTA4 bundle, Resistance2, Motorstorm 2 and Gt5 proper next year. I've left out about 30 big exclusives like Socom and Littlebig, but yeah, just the games above indicate it's over.
Who do you think invented the internet, the actual thing your typing your retarded comments?
Won't you guys learn to shut up Sir Timothy John Berners-Lee invented the internet-ENGLISH Charles Babbage invented the concept of a programmable computer-ENGLISH Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone-SCOTTISH more typically ignorant uneducated Yanks acting like they're better than us please don't ever get a passport weaponschange
"4 - Re: Brits are just dumb
Who do you think invented the internet, the actual thing your typing your retarded comments? "
with a sentence like that, i dont think you have any right calling some one else dumb!! those in glass houses should not throw stones.
even the though the 360 is being outsold its good to stay competitive.
Good for them. I believe the PS3 is still outselling it in all regions. Once we get close to 2010 Thats when the sales will really start pickin up for everyody due to price drops. The Ps3 should be 200-250 by then and the 360 150-200 and both will have a good library of games.
BTW anybody know how the Wii is doing, havent heard much from Nintendo lately, has it been sold out everywhere like it used to?
And all we would hear from the Xbox People was how "double sales from zero sales is still zero sales" or "Two times the small sales they have is nothing to gloat about". They had so many negative things to say and yet, we don't see them here defending their console when it needs them most. Funny how the shoe is now on the other foot and we hear little Xbox favorites talking it up. Maybe we have all come to the realization that it's not about sales now and that ultimately, it's about good games and both consoles have that. Now only if MS could produce a working console...
lol double the sales yet beaten by ps3 nonetheless. i wonder if people actually thought xbox was winning when they saw this
i hate to break it to you but....they are!
Xbox 360 sees double RRoD's in Europe :D
do you not feel just a little sad, and a little like a complete failure in life when you comment with one account, then sign in with another account and say pretty much the same thing??????? lol
perhaps a girlfriend mite help! or boyfriend?! even sheep perhaps? lol what-ever floats your boat?
they blame pog for multi accounting but really its them, u i mean
harrison/sir kentucky/queen kaz/ dark pooper/mr.ps3/flopbox 360
lol @ 'sheep perhaps'
Phil this is a 360 thread. Why the need to come on here and spew your hatred. why don't you play on your glorious ps3.. oh right you can't because all the games have been delayed.
I started to laugh at your comment Phil.. then I realized that your comment is the same thing as everybody else's comment.. It's like telling a joke to somebody that has already heard the joke 20 times in a row.. It's not funny anymore. It's just lame.
at least we know the console is being bought for gaming purposes. i swear if sony didn't make the ps3 a blu-ray player first, we could easily minus millions on their total numbers..
Nobody could possibly take your comment seriously!
This 'bought to play blu ray's' nonsense should have ended a long time ago, as the monthly attach rate for PS3 owners is far higher than the monthly attach rate for 360 owners. Thats not just in Europe either, its been that way in the States for ages now.
So let just get this clear, each and every PS3 owner buys games more regularly than each and every 360 owner. Thats a provable and irrefutable fact based on every piece of sales data we have. This is games, not movies.
To continue to try assert otherwise, makes you look a fool - certainly a troll.
I'll continue to get titles for both systems as I always have, but its obvious to anyone looking at the figures dispassionately, that the 360 is getting its ar*e kicked this year. I hope some of the cool titles to come will help it pick up.
source? till then it's hogwash.
PS3 being bought as a Blu-Ray player is a fact. It was/is one of the cheapest blu-ray players on the market. It's also upgradable through software updates and has more capabilities than the average blu-ray player. You're naive to believe otherwise.
'source? till then it's hogwash.'
WTF? Are you incapable of dividing one figure by another? It's not adavanced calculus, and if type clac in a run box you don't even have to move away from your keyboard!
Take any set of software sales results for a given period from any source. Divide software sales, by total install base to get the ratio of owners who bought a software title in that given time period. You can even multiply it by 100 to get a precentage if you find it easier to understand.
It really isn't rocket science and you don't need a spinning blogger to post it as a story to see whats there in black and white.
A good source for wroking this out is VGchartz - yes their ultimate accuracy may be debatable, but even the harshest critics would conceed they have ballpark figures at the very least. They also have the advantage of having a nice weekly breakdown of software sales with a listed install base, so you can easily divide one by the other, and you can easilly look at various regions too.
You will not find a single week in the last 4 months where a higher proportion of 360 owners bought software compared to PS3 owners. In europe the effect is particularly pronounced - PS3 owners buy many more titles than 360 owners, but its also tru in the states.
This is black and white emperical sales data thats constantly posted and commented on on this site. To deny it when its staring you int he face is simply pathetic.
As an owner of everything, I don't care one way or the other, but people contiually spout rubbish is the face of overwhelming evidence to the coutrary, and that DOES wind me up.
The 360 is wonderful. I love it, I hope it lasts for ever and I'm grateful for the games I play on it. But trying to pretend that PS3 owners don't buy software titles when all the sales data plainly shows that each one buys more, is utterly pathetic, and if you are unable to look at sales dat and read the trends, then you must have either some serious blinkers, or intelect in need of serious help.
You want to dispute weeekly attach rates? Show me any figures, anywhere, that are countrary to what I'm saying. I've checked all sales data, from all sources, for all the regions. There is not a single week where the facts differ.
Might have doubled but PS3 is still selling more.