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Submitted by Tobiichi 454d ago | news

Deep Down will be Free-2-Play, first Beta details

Capcom's upcoming PS4 exclusive Deep Down has been confirmed to be a Free-2-Play title with a beta starting close to the Japanese PS4 launch. (Deep Down, PS Vita, PS4)

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M-M  +   454d ago | Well said
Deep Down a F2P game? Megaton.
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PLASTICA-MAN  +   454d ago | Well said
Here is a proof from Capcom themselves (saw it live and I was mindblown)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media...

F2P meaning you don't need PS PLUS to play it. I thought forcing PS Plus to play online was cruel , but after seeing how many F2P games we will get ( and JUST DEEP DOWN) is quite a big relief.

Even people who will just buy the PS4 WITHOUT A SINGLE GAME will never be bored. Just buy the PS4, you have no excuse (even if you live in a hole and you don't have a way to get PSN PLUS). Let us enjoy gaming on PS4.
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maniacmayhem  +   454d ago
Even though it is F2P I wonder where the monetization will come in?

Will there be a level cap? Will certain dungeons only be accessible through payments?

I'm sure gear, loot, skins, armor and the rest will be paid.

I really don't like the freemium model and would have rather had a full retail game.
FamilyGuy  +   454d ago
This is what I've been saying for months. I'm buying my PS4 with no games at the start and checking out all the free stuff first. There's a lot of options between the F2P games and the PS+ games and my current subscription doesn't expire till March. ^_^

I'll probably still end up buying stuff soon after but nothing beyond the system on day 1.
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sonarus  +   454d ago
I love this new free to play system sony has got going. I hope microsoft intends to adopt some of these policies as well
PoSTedUP  +   454d ago
da fuq does that title say!?
strifeblade  +   454d ago
How dissapointing. Its f2p and people here are jumping up and down for joy. This was never a game- it was a tech demo to demonstrate phanta rei engine. This f2p bull was an after thought.

It looks like the budget for this game is going to be pathetic. Random generated dungeons and enemies? Nothing but greys and ladders and never more than a couple enemies on screen and boring environment? overly simplistic combat system?

This has low budget all over it, its offending that peole compare this to ryse or deadrising (games that actually have a budget and legitmate effort put into it). I am really not trying to bash, but this is the final nail in the coffin, this gane is catering towards the japanese taste in an attempt to monetize it through f2p model and sometimes games like these catch on fast providing that this game seems to be more about loot than anything else.

I speak for most gamers out there and i will say most hardcore gamers were hoping for a full budget 60$ title with all the works and what we got random generated dungeons which result in uninspired environments, simplistic combat, boring and dull (although boss fights seem interesting but thats it.)
PoSTedUP  +   454d ago
looting is good, like in all other rpg's.
and we already saw the graphics and very little game play, f2p doesnt change any of that. it still looks phenomenal with still a lot more we dont even know about the game.
and yes we know the dragons are going to be epic
im curious to see how many different types, of different types of enemys are going to be generated. a good initial variety could give the game longevity.
magic, different weapons, fireballs, count me in.
this Is next gen still a lot more to know about the characters stats, upgrades, weapons, magic, the features of co-op, what the levels are gonna be like etc.
im hoping the generated levels keep some good textures.
they said somenthing about the liquid, im interested in how thats gonna play a factor.
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ShwankyShpanky  +   454d ago
@strife: I think you're being a bit melodramatic. The game's not even in beta yet, and you're acting like you've seen everything there is to see. Let's maybe wait for some more media to be released before determining it to be "nothing but greys and ladders and never more than a couple enemies on screen and boring environment," or that it has an "overly simplistic combat system." I see nothing inherently wrong with procedurally generated environments & enemies. Isn't Diablo procedurally generated?
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badz149  +   454d ago
I don't understand the bitterness in many comments here? What's there for you to lose? The game gone F2P not subscription-base. Why is the perception that F2P games are bad? League of Legends, Planetside 2, World of Tanks etc....there are many examples of very good F2P out there.

Now that it's a confirmed F2P, everybody will have the chance to play it without paying. If it turns out to be good, GREAT. if not, it's their lost not the gamers. Even Sony guys themselves are assisting in the development so it might be something special. The hate is unwarranted for this, seriously.
strifeblade  +   454d ago
I don't understand why people purchasing the PS4 is not expressing dissapointment at the direction this game is taking.All i am seeing is praise.

I am sure the content people will pay for will probably be loot, items, maybe they make you pay for some of those dragon boss fights as they are the main attraction of the game. They will probably make the game impossible to successfully play without purchasing some loot (otherwise it is not profitable). But do you think they will give you a whole package with all the loot? Probably not- they are nickel and diming you in this f2p. In contrast killer instrict gives you everything for 20$ (Save for a few costumes). Although KI does not feel like an f2p besides the 1 free character lol.

F2P is successful but only on pc, where these games can reach a huge user base and become a lively community (normally due to the minimum requirements of the said game). This game's f2p is not based on a community- it;s 2 player co op. So the success of f2p cannot really apply in this case. It sounds more like a free game forcing you to buy loot and content, in a 2 player co op experience with random generated dungeons.

People draw comparisions to diablo as it does have randomly generated dungeons, but diabo is also a full retail game. I am certain the content in diablo cannot be matched by an f2p. In diablo you do not buy loot- you hunt it. Diablo is 4 player co-op, playing it any otherway would suck as all my friends play it 4 player co-op. Diablo has a story and voice acting. Diablo has different classes (huge replayabilty). In comparison deep down looks bare bones. Diablo has simple combat because of its camera being a far 3rd person perspective (traditional hack and slash). deep down adopts a camera angle being right behind a character, and in this case the combat cannot be like diablo simple and repetitive, it would get tired quick.
5h4h4b  +   454d ago
@strifeblade

"I don't understand why people purchasing the PS4 is not expressing
dissapointment at the direction this game is taking.All i am seeing is praise."

Yes. We are excited about this game and graphics and particle effects are praiseworthy. What's your problem?
Don't act like f2p games are garbage. PS2, League of legends are good games. You xboys have some serious problem. You hype your games (ryse, dr3) above the sky, but when we praise our games you people just can't stand it. Just shut up and let the people who like this game praise it.

"and in this case the combat cannot be
like diablo simple and repetitive, it would get tired quick"

Exact description of ryse but still people hype it. And you can be sure combat in this game would be diverse compared to ryse. There are special attacks, spells etc.
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XtraTrstrL  +   454d ago
Yeah, that popped in my head immediately. I was wondering why they were talking about getting the beta into everyone's hands immediately. Very good news, now I have no choice but to give the game a shot, even though it has some hurdles to get past still to really be great.
FamilyGuy  +   454d ago
strifeblade

You're a HUGE hypocrite, Killer Instincts model is garbage and you know it. 8 characters in a fighting game? 720p at that so not only is it lazily made but designed to milk as well. Holding characters back outside that initial bulk purchase ability just so they can charge more, outside that bulk purchase, for the cooler characters later.

Why are you even in here when you have no plans on buying a PS4 anyway? You're in a topic that's 100% about a PS4 exclusive trying to get us to not like the game before it's even gotten a Beta? Please gtfo and don't come back. If you aren't interested why bother even coming in a Deep Down topic?

btw, Deep Down is 4 player co-op, not "only 2 player co-op". Don't know how you screwed that up when they mentioned it multiple times already and we clearly see it in 4 player co-op at the TGS showcase. Not only that but one of the 4 players was using the Vita remote play to play.

I really don't understand complaints about a F2P game, is it so much trouble to download it once it's out and then judge it? It's free, FREE, as in no risk whatsoever if you end up not liking it.

Complaining about a game that's still in it's alpha stage with barely one dungeon, one useable weapon type and one enemy type to fight in its demo is ridiculous. It's even going to have a beta which is already set to be months from now, feb-april so what's with the early concern?
Ritsujun  +   454d ago
Poor Xillyblindb0ts and Nintend00des are mad, aren't they?
tokugawa  +   454d ago
so what we will have to pay to move faster instead of walking through maple syrup..

or pay for more moves rather the poke em in the eye for massive damage lol

grfx aside, the game looks rubbish.. disagree ... you know where it is
5h4h4b  +   454d ago
@ Tokugawa

"ryse sp is LOOKING great. so yeah i hope that a sequel comes. day one for ryse for me #1.1.2"

Hypocrite much?
tokugawa  +   454d ago
lol ryses combat looks better than the pokefest that i saw the other day. sorry, being excluisve to sony doesnt equal instant greatness... and deep down is a prime example!

if this had been announced for the xbox one, and dr3 for the ps4, n4g would be singing a whole different tune about this game!!

example of n4gs hypocrisy.. ryse comments compared to deep down comments abd hype.

at the mo, i will dl deep down to see wha it is all about. but eye poking for massive damage is not really looking great (apart from the grfx) for now
5h4h4b  +   454d ago
@ Tokugawa

First of all, no one is saying that deep down gameplay is amazing and best ever ( from what we have seen so far). People are praising it for amazing lighting and particle effects. ( fire effects are none like we have ever seen before)

Secondly, this game is in pre alpha stage, without any launch date. I can't understand why people are downplaying it and hyping ryse combat. You seriously think this tgs footage shows you everything about the game. What is special about ryse gameplay ? What amazing combos can you pull off? In deep down you can perform spells, special attacks, dodge rolls etc. It's not a pokefest like you people are claiming. Just because a player played it in a ridiculous and clumsy manner doesn't make the whole game pokefest. Please take off those fanboy goggles and judge the game properly.

"if this had been announced for the xbox one, and dr3 for the ps4, n4g would be singing a whole different tune about this game!!"

Yes. I also would have liked your and other xboys opinion if ryse would have been ps4 exclusive.
Btw people are saying that deep down is from capcom. They are money hungry. This cant be a good game. Who developed dr3? Why is it being praised ?
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ZHZ90  +   454d ago
I will be downloading Deep Down all the way!
abc1233  +   454d ago
@strifeblade: You're making negative assumptions left and right about this game. You have no idea how the F2P model will be implemented here, there have been examples of fair F2P models in other games. You also only witnessed a single dungeon being played, with a single group of monsters, with a single weapon and a few other skills. Do you honestly believe that the final game will only ship with this much? How then can you call this a cheap game with boring gameplay mechanics? Calling this a low-budget game when the graphics rival or beat pretty much anything next-gen when it is a very early build and doesn't even have a release date yet is the most laughable part of your post.

And no, I don't know where you got the idea from that you speak for most gamers when it came to hoping that it was a retail game. A fair, F2P game which anyone who has a PS4 can download and enjoy and isn't hidden behind a paywall is clearly something which many gamers would want.
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Legacy212  +   454d ago
I would have to say im disappointed and would have to agree with @strifeblade for some points. When i saw this game i thought it looked really good It reminded me alot of dark souls and the fact it had random dungeons and random enemies never bothered me (diablo, persona etc have random dungeons)The fact that its free 2 play really turns me off. I have played some free 2 play games and from my experience they are just hours of grinding to get your loot if you do not want to pay real money for it. Now i hope this isnt the case for deep down but i think playstation gamers would of gotten a more quality product if it was a full retail release. I remember all the hate and negative comments Killer instinct got on this site when they announced that it was a F2P game. Now, i am quite shocked to see how positive this news is. it seems pretty hypocritical. I am not here to argue what system is better or tell you for $40 bucks you get 16 characters with all there stories in killer instinct next year (there seems to be alot of misinformation about that game on this site) or tell you that deep down is going to be garbage. Both my brothers are getting ps4 and needless to say they feel the same way as i do about deep down. We will have to see more on the game but some people on this site have to keep your story straight. You cant go into every xbox article talking so much shit and bashing games like killer instinct because its free to play and then when you find out a ps4 exclusive is free to play praise it like its the second coming of jesus. Keep some consistency.
XB1_PS4  +   454d ago
I don't want all the good games that come out to be F2P.. That's some bullshit. I don't want to have to pay for gear. I want to pay for the game, and have an even playing ground with everyone.

Farmville ruined everything.
F2P is the devil, Billy.
inveni0  +   454d ago
I would have paid $60 for the retail version of this game. I figure, with the F2P model, I could easily put $60 into micro-transactions and feel okay about it. (If the game is good, that is.)
abzdine  +   454d ago
i will be ALL OVER this game when it launches!! F2P? With such a quality?
damn...
MestreRothN4G  +   454d ago
But this is Capcom and F2P model together.

It just can't work at all.

Not on my watch list anymore, there's ho hope for this game.
monkeyfox  +   454d ago
@maniacmayhem

Whats not to like about the F2P model? Free to play means more people get involved from the start on a relatively unproven title and if you want to, you can still buy the unfettered access with all the extra bits for around £30 anyway...
andrewsqual  +   454d ago
@strifeblade I will admit that I was never into this as soon as it was revealed to be a dungeon crawler last week, then online only, then Free 2 Play. Worth saying I will check it out now though.
Nobody said Ryse or DR3 3 weren't big budget titles, all they said was they just don't look really good. ^_^

So you admit then that the new Killer Instinct (don't forget people have been waiting 15 years for a sequel) is absolutely abysmal then? You can buy it full price and get a whole 8 characters, wow. Made by the people who put the nail in the coffin on the Silent Hill series and know nothing about Fighting games too. But no its gonna be great.
Bimkoblerutso  +   454d ago
I gotta agree with MestreRothN4G.

There have been a COUPLE of good F2P (and keep in mind, that's a couple out of hundreds), but the fact that this is Capcom leads me to the assumption that the decision to go F2P was one of exploitation, not of accessibility.

We're most likely going to see monetized character progression, barebone weapons and equipment, locked dungeons etc. etc.

F2P almost always means that a game has been hacked to death to create as many money-making opportunities as possible without any regards to how disjointed it makes the game.
Tultras  +   454d ago
Haha, certain levels, loot, gear, equipment is already restricted to payments in full retail games, it's just titled "DLC".
maniacmayhem  +   454d ago
@ Monkeyfox

"Whats not to like about the F2P model?"

Some F2P's are done right, I have not played but I heard from many people that LoL is a F2P done right. But I happen to be in the Freemium business and I can tell you the sole purpose of it is to nickel and dime you as much as possible and to make a user pay a lot more than what he would buying full retail.

And this is also Capcom we're talking about. I am a huge Capcom fan but even I was disappointed with their antics for MvC3, SFxT and Asura's Wrath.

People are getting excited about F2P games but it's sole model is basically all about DLC. For the amount of complaints we got this gen about DLC I don't see how anyone could be happy about F2P.

But as I said earlier there are ways to make F2P fun and doable. Let's pray Capcom knows how.
Jack_Of_All_Blades  +   453d ago
PS4 and PS Plus is such great value! I cannot wait till November
black0o  +   454d ago
should I be hapPy or worried about capcom doing this to US
http://www.gifsforum.com/im...
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theWB27  +   454d ago
Worried..not for quality of game..but Capcom and their means of money making.

The pic is disturbing black0o...
GiggMan  +   454d ago
Could be like Drive Club where you can purchase the whole game. I was saying to myself that the game looks awesome but it's really not my type of game. Now I get to try it for free. You can't beat that.
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Tctczach  +   454d ago
Aww. Double post from IGN. So here is a courtesy laugh. Ha.
Campy da Camper  +   454d ago
I think its great. I always watch videos and read reviews on games but you just never know until you play it for yourself. If it sucks you're out the money and pissed. F2P is awesome because I can play the actual game at no cost and see if I like it. If its cool then I figure I have 60 dollar microtrans budget since that what I would have paid for a full game.

That's a lot of goodies to buy and I doubt I would spend that much.

Win win.
black0o  +   454d ago
@Tctczach i post it everywhere not just here and IGN, its capcom and they we all know what's the result of F2p+capcom
deadfrag  +   454d ago
Coming from Capcom It will end been more pay to win than free to play mark my words!
DigitalRaptor  +   454d ago
This is a Capcom/SCE collaboration project, so I'd only be concerned about one half of the equation. Both have their say, and as far as value goes, I think Sony has already made their statement.
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Irishguy95  +   454d ago
All makes sense now...this is unfortunate. No wonder they are doing PCG(it's cheap). This game really is a tech demo.

Edit -
Now that we know it's F2P...we do know the extent of the PG. This game is exactly what we were told it was and nothing more. A dungeon crawling, pcg'd game. It is to show off the power of the Ps4 with a cheap game. I would have really preferred it to be a retail release, gotten a story, and gotten hand content over pcg. However, it's very unlikely that the game is going to have anything more than what has been shown, because you know...it's f2p. I thought this game was gonna be running for RPG crown when I first saw it. It just isn't.

PCG is procedurally generated content @ below. It's a very cheap way of making more content that generally is of lower quality or has less substance than a hand crafted game where developers create everything, place everything etc. They build a game engine to place objects randomly, enemies randomly and create dungeons with a random layout or a world with random layout. If you've ever played Oblivion you should know how poor it's dungeons where. It's a prime example of PCG.

Either 2 things are gonna happen here

1: Sony will ensure the game is not capcomized and expensive to play. This means the game is cheap, and has already clearly focused on graphics. Put 2 and 2 together and the thing is just a showcase of Ps4's power

2: Capcom will do as they do and this F2P title will be "Pay or this game will suck for you"
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ABeastNamedTariq  +   454d ago
Tech demo? Oh gosh. The downplay is strong!

Just like you stated in another article, we don't know the extent of the PG. Don't go there.
FamilyGuy  +   454d ago
what is PCG?
Paid Content Gaming/galore?

Anyway, Deep Down a "tech demo"...
Tech demos are usually amazing and I've always wanted to play around with one lol.

The game looks phenomenal so it doesn't matter what you decide to call it, are you even getting a PS4?
http://a.pomf.se/1Jo8.gif
http://farm4.staticflickr.c...
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black0o  +   454d ago
i feel sorry for u
MysticStrummer  +   454d ago
I'm on my third playthrough of Diablo 3, and the one thing I wish it had was random dungeons. They have re-used scenery, yet are the same every time I explore them.

F2P is good, and it's not like F2P is the only option so play some other game if you don't like the idea.

I'll be checking this out for sure.
Jazz4108  +   454d ago
"If it's no good then im not out any money" thats what renting and demos are for. I much rather this be a real retail title. I had faith in capacom for rpgs because of dragons dogma but this game really looked kind of slow and stale anyways imo just not much going on with the ai from what I seen and free to play is fine now that I have seen the game in action as I would not pay big money for this.
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G20WLY  +   454d ago
Yeah, 'Irish', wrong as usual and jumping to conclusions. How about wait and see, how does that sound?

The fact that they're doing a beta shows they're confident this game will impress and there will likely be a premium option for full game, as often supports the F2P model.

^Jazz, to be fair, your comment history shows you to be anti Sony/pro MS in a big way, so your baseless insults towards Deep Down hold no weight, sorry. ;(

Also, Jazz, 8 days ago: "I canceled my preorder for the ps4 do to money reasons" = bitter much?.. lol
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christian hour  +   454d ago
Please change your name Irishguy, you're giving us a bad rep here :P

There's nothing wrong with F2P. YES the model can be taken advantage of in very bad ways by greedy companies and capcom have proven that they are DLC microtransaction whores, so it could spell trouble, but only time will tell. But there are plenty of good examples of F2P done right, a lot of people in here have listed them so I wont bother repeating those titles.

Completely dismissing F2P because there are some bad models out there is kind of ridiculous. That would be like not playing any FPS any more because Activision milked COD for all it was worth. The F2P model works very well when it's planned well... Somethign tells me with Sony heavily behind this title they won't let capcom turn it in to a milk farm just yet.

Gonna go play some War Thunder now, still playing it months after getting it and guess what, its f2p and I have yet to spend a penny on anything extra and I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything :)

League Of Legends is also awesome, but I hate MOBA's, too stressful and frantic for my gaming preferences :P
andrewsqual  +   454d ago
"Sony will ensure the game is not capcomized and expensive to play. This means the game is cheap, and has already clearly focused on graphics."

The fact is isn't coming to Xbox means it won't. PS users were even shafted on the price of RE HD and Code Veronica HD because it didn't fit under 2gbs and had to be released as an over expensive Games on Demand game on Live. Microsoft tightened that lease they have on Capcom since 2006 and said "do it on PlayStation too slaves".
FamilyGuy  +   454d ago
No way.... O.O

I can't believe it's F2P

I will remain cautious though, don't really trust Capcom too much when it comes to micro-transactions. If there's an option to buy the full package/game I'll probably just go that route. They better not screw this up, they really can't afford to right now.

Happy gaming everyone!
Hicken  +   454d ago
Yeah. Honestly, Capcom hasn't instilled much confidence in me. But at least this is f2p, so I don't have to give them any money.
Neckbear  +   454d ago
This is terribly disappointing. F2P games never turn out to be good.
HammadTheBeast  +   454d ago
League of Legends says hello.

So does Planetside 2, DOTA, Team Fortress 2, and many others.
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solidsheep  +   454d ago
D&D online, path of exile.
MysticStrummer  +   454d ago
"F2P games never turn out to be good."

Sweeping statements are never the whole story. There are great F2P games.
joab777  +   454d ago
Unless its completely free...I would rather pay for it. Imagine diablo 3 being f2p...except u have to pay for all this shit. If its loot based...hopefully its just skins etc. Otherwise it could get bad. Anyway...why not tell is more about exactly what it is first.
BoriboyShoGUN  +   454d ago
WOW!!!!!!
showtimefolks  +   454d ago
thank you sony/capcom

i have psn-plu but what's nice is that you don't need plus to play free to play games
Volkama  +   454d ago
Free to play is not a gift. Some greedy publisher simply thinks they can make more money with the alternate payment model.

It doesn't necessarily mean the game is poor quality or low budget at all, and if you can stomach a shop in your game it may be a game you enjoy. But thanks isn't warranted.
Beastforlifenoob  +   454d ago
This destroys my hype like a bug under a watermelon.

I HATE FREE TO PLAY GAMES, because you constantly have to take out yo wallet instead of playing the freaking game and how much money is in it determines weather your player is good or bad (does not require skill just spoiled idiots). Instead of paying $60 you will pay $150 for everything in the game.

The freemium model needs to end, I want to pay 60 bucks play the game and enjoy it. Anyone who supports it should be publicly exucted and laughed at.
LetoAtreides82  +   454d ago
You don't need everything in the game, you just buy what you want/need and sometimes you don't even need to use real money to buy it with.
thezeldadoth  +   454d ago
lol, now you guys are cool with f2p
turgore  +   454d ago
The sheeple on this site are pathetic. When killer instinct was free to play, everyones like "ph its gonna suck"
Now when deep down is revealed to be free, everyone thinks its the best game ever. Its gonna be garbage like 90% of free to play games.
PlayStation_4  +   454d ago
Wow, now I'm excited!

Xbox One gets Killer Instinct and we get Deep Down.

Hyped! Hopefully Europe will get the beta
StoutBEER  +   454d ago
Well, when I get my PS4 2 years down the road this was gonna be the game i got. Guess that's solved! I can save my 60 for a fat sack get high and watch the Fire fly ;D
Blaze929  +   454d ago
I wonder how many people read this much at least:

"Capcom's"

Prepare for the micro-transactions
LiQuiZoN  +   454d ago
F2p isn't good. It means you'll spend quite a lot more than you would for a dark souls experience at 60$.
3-4-5  +   454d ago
Best looking F2P game ever?
TAURUS-555  +   453d ago
yeees ¡¡¡
Nitrowolf2  +   454d ago
Dayuuuuuuuuuuuuum thats awesome

but then I see Capcom name on it and then it worries me at the same time. I can see them nickle an diming the shit out of this game as this gen has proved with pretty much all their titles.
Nes_Daze  +   454d ago
I agree, I'm excited but with caution...
LOGICWINS  +   454d ago
Of course they'll nickel and dime. That how free to play games work. You get the core experience and pay for extra stuff. The PS Plus version of Drive Club will be no different.
awesomeperson  +   454d ago
Isn't there an option with Driveclub just to purchase the full game outright with PS Plus?

I imagine you would have the option of buying individual cars and/or tracks, but there would be an option to buy everything.

And Driveclub is a bit more than Free to Play, seeing as the only locked things are some tracks and cars - you can still "complete" the game and get platinum with the Plus version.
FamilyGuy  +   454d ago
Driveclub is NOT FREE TO PLAY!

Get this through your skull!
Driveclub will release on disc at retail at the launch of the PS4, it is NOT FREE TO PLAY!

I don't see people going around calling all the other PS+ titles "F2P" but just because Driveclub is a limited content version you guys call it F2P. Uncharted 3 came to PS+ with only the story mode attached, no one calls that F2P. Ironically Uncharted 3s multiplayer is F2P.

-_-

I'm tired of people saying it's F2P, name one F2P game that launched at retail for $60 along side its online Free 2 Play model on day one?

Better yet, the purpose of the F2P model is to make money through micro-transactions, usually making it more expensive to buy all the content than just paying $60 for the full game. DriveClub isn't set up to make make you over spend, you buy the full game or or check out the free version on PS+. There is no price gouging.
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LOGICWINS  +   454d ago
"seeing as the only locked things are some tracks and cars"

YUP, thats the "extra stuff" I was speaking of.

"you can still "complete" the game and get platinum with the Plus version."

It seems like you can "complete" the FTP version of Deep Down. But I'm expecting Capcom to charge every few months for extra boss scenarios and characters.

I don't expect Dragons to be the only bosses and Knights to be the only protagonists. Imagine a sea battle with a giant squid!

@FamilyGuy- Why are you screaming lol? And DriveClub will be FTP if you have Plus.
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LetoAtreides82  +   454d ago
FamilyGuy I understand you feel negatively towards F2P and that's why you're trying to claim that DriveClub and Uncharted 3 aren't F2P but they are. F2P can be done right and has been done right in other occasions as well, as seen in games like PlanetSide 2 and DC Universe Online.
Legacy212  +   454d ago
drive club isnt free to play. Its like GT Prologue in a way. You get a part of the game for free with ps plus (some cars and tracks) and if you like the game you can purchase it at a discounted price being a ps plus member. Like a glorified demo
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awesomeperson  +   454d ago
I get what you're saying. But in my opinion there's a distinction between the Playstation Plus edition of Driveclub, and a Free to Play model.

For example, I expect (hope) that the best cars and what-not will be locked behind a payall in Driveclub, as they most likely will be in Deep Down.

The whole details on it have been sketchy though, so we'll just have to see what happens on release.
strifeblade  +   454d ago
@leto
You are probably the most uninformed person i whave witnessed in this thread so far and you do not understand F2P.

Now because ps+ offers a game for free does not technically make it f2p. f2p is a certain model of playing. Driveclub is not f2p, it has a retail version 60$, and members of ps+ get 15% of the game and if you want the rest you pay 40$-50$ fee. If driveclub was f2p you pay for every single car and track you want and pay separately. Its called microtransactions lol.

Killer instinct is technically f2p since it allows you to pay 5$ for a character or 20$ for 8 characters and their stories.
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joeorc  +   453d ago
@LOGICWINS

"Of course they'll nickel and dime. That how free to play games work. You get the core experience and pay for extra stuff. The PS Plus version of Drive Club will be no different."

That's pretty much a sweeping statement, that is not true at all.

DCUniverse
Planet Side 2
Dust

all free 2 play and they do not " nickel and dime" the consumer.

Look while i agree there is many games that do, there is more games being built now that do not. and there is more free 2 play games on playstation platforms that do not " nickel and dime" than there are ones that do.
maniacmayhem  +   453d ago
@ joeorc

You must be kidding about DCUO right? I haven't played the other two you mentioned but I have DCU and that is a prime example of F2P done wrong. They level cap you at the most critical point of gameplay.

F2P for DC is not even worth it, since you will need to pay just to unlock the better levels.
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PrimeGrime  +   454d ago
The thing with free-to-play is you are not forced to buy anything. No matter how much you think you may need it, it is always you who makes the decision to spend money on micro trans.

If you simply don't like it, don't play it and don't spend money on it. Regardless it is free to try at least for you to determine that decision.
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Campy da Camper  +   454d ago
Exactly. I spend 60 bucks on a new title. I look at this as I have a 60 dollar budget for micros. If the game sucks I'm not out anything.
Beastforlifenoob  +   454d ago
Yeah sure and only have 1 sword or armour.

Oh yeah and potions cost real money, so does anything that adds even a miniscule amount to the game.

Its capcom and its freemium.... That sentence is all you need.
thezeldadoth  +   454d ago
its so sad to watch you guys change your opinions on things in order to support your favorite system
Sharius  +   454d ago
god fvcking dammit

https://twitter.com/yosp/st...
PLASTICA-MAN  +   454d ago
This is clearly epic for PS4.
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fsfsxii  +   454d ago
This sends XB1 deep down
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Hanso  +   454d ago
lol
Tctczach  +   454d ago
Yeah microtransactions sure do help games...
Legacy212  +   454d ago
does xbox hate really generate that much agrees here? man says this send xbox1 deep down and gets 35 agrees o_O? *face palm* the fan boys force is strong here
Majin-vegeta  +   454d ago
Hellz yea :D
FlameHawk  +   454d ago
Oh HELL YES!!! I'm so excited for this game, I really hope the beta comes to America, please Capcom.
JayMurks  +   454d ago
This is GREAT!

I don't care who developed it, as long as it plays good with those stunning visuals. And now it's F2P? Awesome.

Edit: Thanks for the dislike(s); pussy keep on bleeding.
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Aleithian  +   454d ago
Epic response to the dislikes. +1
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HeyImBen11  +   454d ago
F2P? I'm out. You can keep your shit, i prefer complete games without ingame stores and microtransactions.
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ABeastNamedTariq  +   454d ago
Bye then. Seems like you'll be missing out.
dantesparda  +   454d ago
I agree, so far F2P means "sh*t" game
HeyImBen11  +   454d ago
I won't miss anything when this is F2P, especially not when the game is that huge.

What do you think are they are going to do?

Selling cosmetic clothes and that's it?

Lmao, have fun paying $5 to enter the next area.

Big AAA title + F2P = Bye bye.
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Bolts  +   454d ago
Free to play just means that you'll be paying $200 to get the same content a regular $60 game. Oh you want more inventory space? $5 please. Want a sword that isn't made of wood? Then upgrade to copper, $15. You just died? Would you like to respawn here? $5....
Irishguy95  +   454d ago
May as well try it, it's free. It'll probably be **** though yeah/

You just have to look at it logically, it's F2p, it has amazing graphics...where did the budget go? The gameplay or the graphics? Very straight forward.
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PrimeGrime  +   454d ago
Sad you feel that way. Really lots of high quality free-to-play titles out there, you probably say the same thing about indie games huh? There are plenty out there that don't require you to ever buy anything or look at micro transactions either.

Then there are some that are very terrible and also are pay to win but terrible games can exist anywhere. Not every retail game is good, some far from it.
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HeyImBen11  +   454d ago
"Really lots of high quality free-to-play titles out there"

Oh really? Tell me some, because i already tested every single F2P game you can imagine and they were all crap. And wtf has this to do with indiegames, lol?

"Oh you don't require to ever buy anything", oh sry dude, but you obviously don't understand the point here. With that logic we could make every game F2P. Would be so cool, right?
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Inception  +   454d ago
@PrimieGrime

Exactly. It's free VS 60 bucks on retail games. If we don't like the game than just delete it from our HDD. Simple. So i don't understand what this people complaining.

And some xbox fanboys tried to downplay Deep Down like no tomorrow. Suddenly they want this game as a retail game, lol, it showed how they really want Deep Down on Xbone :P

@Heyl

If you don't want than don't play it. It's free.
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PrimeGrime  +   454d ago
"because i already tested every single F2P game you can imagine and they were all crap."

With comments like that I can't take a word you write seriously. Yea I am so sure you have played every single free-to-play game in existence, that looks like an intelligent response.
GuruMeditation  +   454d ago
Am I correct in guessing that 'Hey I'm Ben' is what you have written on a big yellow badge, so the nurse knows who to give the antipsychotics to?...

Anyhoo, if you'd tested every f2p game we can imagine, you'd know there are some objectively fantastic games in that sphere. Certainly nothing worth raging over...
Jazz4108  +   454d ago
I hope octodad is free to play too.
PirateKing  +   454d ago
The question is when will the game come to America...summer of next year?
hogfan76  +   454d ago
Hasn't been announced it's coming at all!
hogfan76  +   454d ago
Two disagrees please show me where it says it's coming to US?
PirateKing  +   454d ago
I know right I asking the same thing. It seems people are upset it won't come here for awhile.
Inception  +   454d ago
The disagree surely from butthurt xbox fanboy. And i'm sure this will come to US, when all conversation in trailer is in english.
Rhaigun  +   454d ago
The latest trailer's dialog is almost completely in English. Why would they do that if it was never coming here?
hogfan76  +   454d ago
I agree but capcom said themselves at tgs they haven't decided whether it's coming west or not I think it will but I need confirmation is all.
srd4484  +   454d ago
Def not a megaton.
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Irishguy95  +   454d ago
Megaton it is, it's just a very bad one
awesomeperson  +   454d ago
That's because you don't care for the PS4.

I imagine an Xbox fan wouldn't get overly excited about a PS4 exclusive free to play.
Kingdom Come  +   454d ago
No, it's a bad one. Capcom developing a free to play game? I'd rather it be a retail title. Imagine how many micro-transactions there will be...
pr0t0typeknuckles  +   454d ago
wasnt interested before,now i am
corvusmd  +   454d ago
Oh no...that's not a great sign. The cinemas still look great, but other than that, the more news that comes out, the less I am interested in this game...but there is still hope...
ErcsYou  +   454d ago
Lol, I remember you! After reading your comment history a few days ago i'm positive you were never interested in this game.
corvusmd  +   454d ago
I get what you're saying, and from your perspective I see why...but it's a narrow perspective. I've owned every PS until this gen...this is the first gen I don't plan on getting a PS at launch. True, I like XB1 much more than PS4 right now...not even trying to hide it. But Deep Down was actually on my list of games to buy since I first saw it...and until they said it was a PS4 exclusive I was planning on getting it on XB1. It became the first exclusive for PS4 that I wanted (once I found out Order is linear)...true I still want there to be more exclusives I care about before I pick up a PS4..but that was one. However, I stand by what I said, the cinemas look great, but the more I learn about gameplay, F2P, and resident evil style enemies the less interested I am.. I'm entitled to my opinion, and although I like XB1 more than PS4 right now, I'm not owned by either system....my loyalties don't work like that. Nice try though. If you could actually look deeper into my history you'd see that what I'm saying is true.
ErcsYou  +   454d ago
Well, from my perspective i can only see the last 60 days of comments because you have only been a member on N4G for 2 months. After reading your comments and PM's i noticed that all you have done with your time on N4G is defend the XB1 and speak bad about the PS4. You also love to use the term "Fanboy" when attacking other members about their opinions. I may have been rude in my PMs to you and i apologize but if you saw things from my point of view you usually come off as rude and defensive before anybody else has a chance too. Your quick to judge others and are easily offended when others call you out on your BS. I understand liking the XB1, you and many others enjoyed many games last gen on the 360 and i know some times the Sony fans may be a little harsh but just remember that YOU enjoyed your time spent on your consoles last gen and there is nothing anybody can say that can take those memories away from you. People will try to convince you that a game sucked when you know deep down in your heart you had a great time playing them. Those are called haters and you should try to not let them get under your skin. As for me, I LOVED Lost Odyssey on the 360 and all the haters talking sh!t about it and its four discs didnt affect me one bit, i still loved it and feel bad that the fans of another system didnt get to play it, they missed out on a classic.
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ABeastNamedTariq  +   454d ago
Wow! Megaton.
KwietStorm  +   454d ago
This is not a game would have wanted to be f2p. Not at all.
arbitor365  +   454d ago
this free to play game wipes the floor with the xbox one's pseudo AAA titles.
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KwietStorm  +   454d ago
You played them all? Even Deep Down? Can I add you?
Legacy212  +   454d ago
move on nothing to see here. *Posts Beware Of Fanboy Sign*
PrimeGrime  +   454d ago
HOLY SHITE! Really this game is free-to-play..? This is a joke right? One of the best looking free-to-play games I have ever seen or practically seen period, this game looks amazing.

As if my PS4 hype meter could go any higher, its about broke off the hatch now.

The value of the PS4 is astonishing. You can practically not buy a single game or PS+ and you will have quite a few games to play that will keep you busy probably for a long while.
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Beastforlifenoob  +   454d ago
You do realise you will end up paying more than $60 if you want everything in the game right? And how good you are wont depend on your skill but how much your willing to throw at the screen.

For some reason people think the game is free. YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR SWORDS AND STUFF YOU CANT EARN THEM TROUGH SKILL... YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY!!!

AND IM BUYING A PS4 SO DONT CALL ANYONE WHO DISLIKES MONEY GRABBING TACTICS A XBOX ONE FAN..
abc1233  +   454d ago
You have no idea about how the model will be implemented in this game.
Bolts  +   454d ago
you're trusting Crapcom to come up with a good free to play model? LMAO!! The nature of free to play is treat you like a worthless second class piece of shit until you finally break down, and overpay for something.

I can already guess your first purchase, bag space. Keep your credit card handy kids because you're going to need it frequently.
abc1233  +   454d ago
Except "Crapcom" isn't the only ones developing this game...

You think Sony would speak out against anti-consumerist policies on MS' part only to allocate resources to developing an anti-consumerist game?
PrimeGrime  +   454d ago | Well said
I am sorry but that is so stupid. Free-to-play games do not work like that. Sure there are games where you can pay to get items quicker or help craft items faster that give you an advantage earlier on than other players but everything is still available to get through the game on your own without cash especially skills. It simply takes more work and more time than a person who is willing to spend money.

I have played some pretty crappy free-to-play games that are horrible but even then those games did not lock skills through micro trans. I really don't think you guys have any idea what you're talking about. Why should that be surprising though.

It is beyond ridiculous more people are agreeing with someone who can apparently predict the future of this game and knows exactly what items will require money or how it will help players. You don't, no one does yet, so how about you shit all over the game once you actually know what you are talking about. Instead of trying to make it seem so much worse than it is when it hasn't even been released yet. You aren't capable of predicting the future of this game or the type of model it will use.

You people like always just recite what everyone else says without thinking or using any actual experience of your own. Yes Capcom has a big history of doing this but they aren't they only people working on this game. If it was only Capcom I would be a bit more worried but it isn't.

People are so predictable. I already knew when I made that first comment that is all I would see here.

Like I have said before you can act as coy as you want but it doesn't matter what model of free-to-play game it is, no one ever forces you to spend money on it. You are the one who spends money on it by choice. I have never had to spend money or felt forced to in a free-to-play game in my life and I had plenty of fun with them and go just as far as other players who spent money, so what I had to play the game more, that is the intention of playing a video game anyway. Why would I want to pay to rush through it, just so I can look like a bad ass at the end of the day? Not too enjoyable in my opinion.

It is extremely stupid though you going around and acting like "I have to take out my wallet" No you don't. If the game bothered you that much and you knew it was not balanced, why the hell would you spend money on it knowing that? That is your own damn fault. Free-to-play is just that, you are never forced or required to pay money. No one is breaking down your door, while you are playing these games and holding a gun to your head saying.... You have to pay for our micro trans..

You people are so god damn dramatic it isn't even amusing. They are forcing you to pay? Give me a break already.. You guys must have very weak wills and people just take advantage of that quite often I bet.
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DoctorJones  +   454d ago
I prefer paying full price for a game and being able to get everything through just playing the game, not buying everything with real money. I've not bothered with Plants Vs Zombies 2, even though I was a huge fan of the original for this very reason.

Yes, there are FTP games that don't require you to buy items and you can get them through playing (meaning grinding for days) but this is Capcom we're talking about here.

I'm not a fan of FTP, and I don't see this as a positive at all. The reality will be far different, it will be anything other than 'free to play'.

I find it funny how Capcom gets stick for pretty much everything they do normally, quite rightly sometimes, but when it's a ps4 exclusive all of a sudden it's swept under the rug.

I'll try and keep an open mind about this game until it comes out, but tbh I'm not entirely convinced on it.
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sAVAge_bEaST  +   454d ago
May be a grind fest., or pay to not grind,.. kind of what ev's.
1nsomniac  +   454d ago
Not overly interested in the game but I'm surprised by the move to make it F2P, interesting....
hogfan76  +   454d ago
Like the way this game looks but not going to be excited until I know if we will even get it in US so put up or shut up capcom! Announce this game at e3 then have the nerve to say it might not be coming here what nerve!
Holeran  +   454d ago
I'm honestly not happy about the free to play bit at all. The free to play games end up getting very pricey. Free to play my ass.
Irishguy95  +   454d ago
Maybe, but generally Sony exclusive f2p don't end up pricey or P2W. However they aren't exactly top of the pile on your 'to play' list...Take a look a Dust 514. Although I personally think Dust is decent...just...I woulda preferred if the game got a higher budget etc

@ SonyNGP
Just wait and see about the P2W policies, it is capcom but well..also sony.
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SonyNGP  +   454d ago
>F2P
>Capcom

Yeaaaaah I'm not trusting this one.
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fsfsxii  +   454d ago
Oh SHIT!!!
I just realized... that this game is made by capcom, THIS is NOT good. Yeeaaah, well, capcom LUUUUUUVES cash, so this game is pretty much sent to die. Microtransactions incoming.
Inception  +   454d ago
Co-developed with Sony Japan Studio. But we will see how Capcom handled this kind of F2P.
Legacy212  +   454d ago
Off topic: Persona 4 was awesome
Kuse  +   454d ago
Man I don't like paywalls, this really deflated my hype for this game. Just when it started looking kinda decent...I mean hell we don't even know if there is an actual storyline that's intriguing enough to even play...

Pretty games mean nothing if its shallow in other areas...
4logpc  +   454d ago
Free to play from Capcom.....uhhhhh not a good combination.
AceBlazer13  +   454d ago
Do I even need to buy games for my ps4 the first few weeks?
JimmyLmao  +   454d ago
lol nope... 9 free games on day 1 confirmed
dillhole  +   454d ago
The quickest way to lose my custom: F2P
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JimmyLmao  +   454d ago
awesome...
i have become a lot more interested in this game over the past few days for a few reasons..

1) incredible gameplay shown at TGS
2) randomly generated dungeons!!
3) free. to. play

Capcom, take my mone-

oh wait... it's free!!
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Beastforlifenoob  +   454d ago
Dont worry kido JimmyLmao... Weather you want it or not capcom will happily grab the money out of your hand and shove it up their fat ass.
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SuicideKing  +   454d ago
I feel like this is not a good sign. But on the other hand I'm excited for Killer Instinct so I don't want to be a hypocrite. I'm sure I will check it out when it's released. I mean it's free!
jeffgoldwin  +   454d ago
Idk you gotta be scepticle about every "free" game. Vast majority daggle this free carrot in front of you and get you hooked into the game until before you realize it, there are brick walls everywhere. If you don't pay for upgrades sorry, you cant play your beloved game anymore because your toon is so gimped.
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cunnilumpkin  +   454d ago
hmmmm...this could go a few ways

take a game like Hawken, awesome game, beautiful graphics, have put around 20 hours in, unlocked like 5 cool mechs and some nice gear with in game money, never spent a dime

very few games are like this, path of exile, blacklight retribution , along with the new Neverwinter

these games literally offer TONS of content for free, with vanity/pet type items being sold for real money only

everything else can be acquired with in game loot

these are the bEST types of freemium

then theres everything else, the money grubbing, locked out content, pay to revive, pay for weapons ect.

these games are wired from the start to keep content away from you and behind a pay wall

these kinds of games can F off!

I hope deep down follows the cool model! but with Capcom at the helm I worry
Kuse  +   454d ago
You are giving Capcom too much credit lol
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